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Ruthy Alon page

Hello Jim, thank you very much for your help. I copied the Ruthy Alon Page text and the suggestions I received from wikipedia administrators to work on the page in the next future. I think I understand the motivations of the proposed deletion. I need more time than two days to work on the page for many reasons: first of all I am on vacations, and more important I usually write in collaboration with english-speaking friends because I am italian and english is my second language as you can see in this message. I want to learn to contribute to wikipedia in the right way. So as soon as my new 'Ruthy Alon' page will be ready I will try to upload it again. And I hope I will able to do a better work. Thank you again, Danielaagazzi 19:52, 9 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielaagazzi (talk • contribs)

Kellie Loder

Hi Jim,

Thank you very much for your helpful reviews of the articles I have written in the past. I have submitted another article for featured status: the Kellie Loder article. Any comments you would be willing to provide at the FAC would be greatly appreciated.

Neelix (talk) 15:05, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Vivaldi Partners Group

Dear Jim, I saw that you deleted a page for Vivaldi Partners Group; I had wanted to add some updates (news articles about Vivaldi's research in particular). Would you be able to let me know what was in the initial page to require deletion in the first place? Any insights on getting it back so I can add the edits would be much appreciated.

Thank you! Swcwikiswc (talk) 19:20, 16 August 2013 (UTC)Swcwikiswc

User:B9lq97z6

You may want to look at blocking this user - he's posted another full page of spam (after you deleted the first two pages). GregJackP Boomer! 20:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Never mind - Bbb23 got him.  :) GregJackP Boomer! 20:50, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Sales strategy

Hey Jim,

I submitted a quick explanation of / definition of a "sales strategy" that you promptly deleted ;-) My intend was to start this article and enrich it. The subject is highly important and there was no wiki-article of the subject. The goal was to have a page much like the page describing "marketing." Can you please explain why the page was deleted and what I need to do write it so it will not be deleted. I would like to just start it, continue to enhance it/contribute and then have others contribute as well.

Thanks,

Thomas --Tbulow (talk) 13:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Sales Strategy page in a sandbox

Hey again,

Thanks for your response...please provide the text in a sandbox environment and I will try to work on the issues you listed. I guess it's ok to start with just a quick encyclopedic definition of the subject and then work from there? Does sources such as university text books count as independent?

All the best --Tbulow (talk) 13:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	For deleting the nonsense pages that have I tagged. Thank you! MrScorch6200 (talk) 06:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

SWEAT (South West Enfield Action Team)

Hi you deleted the page "SWEAT (South West Enfield Action Team)" ... here's a little more about the organization to see if it would be allowed on Misplaced Pages ...

• The National Audit Office have announced that 256,000 additional primary school places are required for 2014
• The Department of Education has announced additional funding of £982 million to resolving this problem
• SWEAT are campaigning proactively as this will be a national problem next year
• The local MP David Burrowes supports SWEAT and has been actively involved with meetings on this issue
• Local news has published articles and letters referring to this issue
• We believe that our mission statement of “Local schools for local children” will make our campaign become national next year
• Local elections next year will refer to this campaign group

Regards Jon JonMDaniels (talk) 20:14, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

New Page

StevenCNofziger (talk) 16:02, 22 August 2013 (UTC)stevencnofziger Previously I was trying to create a page for the first time and I created some weird username and now I'm trying to recreate the page. I wanted to let you know that I was recreating the page, and hopefully this time doing it the right way. It's my first time doing so and there is a learning curve. Thanks. Steven StevenCNofziger

LoisYoung90page

Hello Jim, The page i created has been deleted by you and that is not one ads. Maybe I introduced too much for this company? however please advise me because i am new to this place and i need your help. Thanks & nice day.

LoisYoung

Re-evoke deleted page?

Hi Jim, On the 23rd May 2013 you deleted the biography of a living person (Mr. Tito Tettamanti - http://en.wikipedia.org/Tito_Tettamanti) stating G11 as a reason. In fact, my colleague who in good faith wanted to create the page, was not aware that he needed to cite the sources of each piece of information. I am now preparing a new bio with all needed references but I could need some help/advice from you on how to get it right and not waste anyone`s time. Do you think you can assist? Many thanks and all the best! Dan Fidinam legal counsel (talk) 12:40, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

You've got mail!

Pratyya 14:40, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Blocked

To Mark Arsten, Jimfbleak and Zzyzx11: I am blocking each of you because you have edited the Chelsea Manning article through protection, despite several comments and a clear warning on the talk page of the article. It does not matter whether or not you personally think your changes are uncontroversial; in two of the cases, it turns out there is actually controversy about the changes made. You are blocked for the remaining duration of page protection; however, any administrator may unblock you provided that you undertake to make no further edits to the Chelsea Manning page for the duration of the protection.

The administrator tools do not grant you the authority to change fully protected articles based on any reason other than edit requests based on policy and appropriately discussed on the talk page of the article. None of the edits made addressed BLP issues. None of them were urgent or required immediate, undiscussed action. Going forward, I expect you all to refrain from editing protected pages in the absence of a clear talk page consensus on the appropriateness of a specific edit request. Risker (talk) 17:40, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Chelsea Manning

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — ΛΧΣ 17:59, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

• I have unblocked per that discussion. Take this as a trout. Black Kite (talk) 18:45, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Valerie Sutton

According to NewJerseyLiz, you were the one who deleted the article after she flagged it. I cannot for the life of me see how the article could be considered promotional. The total content of the article was biographical and descrioptive of her efforts to develop a movement notation, forst for dance and later for sign language and in other areas. There were no "this is the best" or other promotional-type statements. Since I cannot see what in the original article made Liz or you think it was promotional, I can't determine what would have met with your acceptance. Could you explain? -- BRG (talk) 22:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

It might have been useful, for you to have raised the points you cite before deleting the article.

First, as to notability. At the time the article was written, in 2008, of course, there were no such concepts as "independently verifiable sources" and "notability guidelines." The article was written according to the standards of the day. Misplaced Pages has become more formal in its requirements in this line, but instead of simply deleting the article, perhaps someone should have attempted to investigate these questions. The fact is that SignWriting is recognized by many as one of the best-known ways of writing, not only American Sign Language, but other signed languages as well. Some of the references to SignWriting from outside Valerie Sutton's organization -- such as universities -- are:

• • Nicaraguan Sign Language users are being made literate through SignWriting
  • SignWriting is important enough that it has been included in the University of California's list of scripts requiring Unicode representations
  • Mobility '06 Proceedings of the 3rd international conference on Mobile technology, applications & systems
  • This is a study of different representations of sign languages made at a Japanese university. SignWriting was one of the ones studied, attesting to its importance, and it was adjudged the most suitable.
  • Yet another academic journal article attesting to SignWriting's significance among notations for sign language.
  • Almasoud, Ameera M., and Hend S. Al-Khalifa. "SemSignWriting: A Proposed Semantic System for Arabic Text-to-SignWriting Translation." Journal of Software Engineering and Applications 5.8 (2012).

Of course, if SignWriting is notable -- and I think these are only a few references proving that so -- then its inventor is.

Now, I was trying to figure out how you saw the article as "promotional." You gave me the following quotes: "Over the next two years she applied her system to recording the historic ballet steps ... which were in danger of being forgotten... as Sutton improved her system... by special invitation... came to the attention of sign language researchers... they asked for a demonstration... it has been used for writing not only... Sutton has continually worked to improve her notation systems and now leads..." Other than two usages of the word "improve" I do not see anything that could possibly be seen as, as you put it, "a fan page." And even those only indicate that her first efforts were far from perfect, and she attempted to make the system more useful. Where is the "fan" language in "Over the next two years she applied her system to recording the historic ballet steps ... which were in danger of being forgotten"? It was the ballet steps that were described as "historic," not anything that VS created. The part saying "came to the attention of sign language researchers... they asked for a demonstration" is history, not promotion; it describes how VS came to turn her efforts from dance movement notation to sign language notation. Perhaps "it has been used for writing not only... " requires citations -- I just gave you some above -- but in 2008 this mechanism for citing did not exist.

If an image is a copyright violation -- and I did not upload that image, so I don't know where it came from -- the solution is to delete the image, not the whole article. But the person who uploaded the image has commented that he had "Explicit permission to make this picture available under a Free license from Valerie Sutton .. have e-mail to prove it." So that particular point is irrelevant.

--BRG (talk) 09:22, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

There is no conflict of interest. I have no connection with VS, other than that I've met her in person and I was impressed with what she did. If you userfy the article, I'll try to see what I can do, but I really have to figure out exactly what the objections are in order to fix it, thus my detailed questions. -- BRG (talk) 12:43, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

You referred to the portion that said, "... came to the attention of sign language researchers at the University of Copenhagen, and they asked for a demonstration." You wanted to know who the "sign language researchers" were. The very next sentence said, "As a result, Lars van der Leith and others at the Audiologopædisk Forskningsgruppe of the University of Copenhagen requested Sutton to develop a version of her movement notation adapted to the recording of sign languages." That should have answered your questiomn there. I personally, in fact, do not know who else besides Lars van der Leith was involved, but his name and the name of the Audiologopædisk Forskningsgruppe of the University of Copenhagen should have settled the question. I assume that the other "sign language researchers" were colleagues or students of van der Leith at the Audiologopædisk Forskningsgruppe of the University of Copenhagen. However, a slight rearrangement of the words should fix that problem.

Truly, I am far from being a newbie, and I have created thousands of articles on Misplaced Pages. However, the standards regardin sourcing and notability have become so much more formalized in recent years that I find myself forced to defend articles I created five years or more ago, which lacked attestations of notability, or lacked sourcing, because the standards were different at the time. This is the very first time that I found my article simply deleted, without the chance to find out what needed to be fixed up or to demonstrate that it was all right without changes. The only thing I had to go on was NewJerseyLiz' comment that it seemed promotional, and I did not see what in the article would qualify as promotional. -- BRG (talk) 13:40, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

apologies

for giving you so much work. -- # ▄ 06:28, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

thanks for being so diligent with the CSDs. I was on a bit of a mission there.

# ▄ 06:28, 25 August 2013 (UTC)