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G4
G4 is not going to return to DirecTV, all on account of going off the air in favor of the Esquire Channel. Don't you remember? ~~LDEJRuff~~ 4:59 15 January, 2013 (UTC)
- Nope, I don't remember, but even if I did, my memory isn't considered an acceptable source. From the look of existing references, G4 was dropped in 2010 for lack of viewer interest, and didn't, as you wrote, go off the air "in favor of the Esquire Channel". Where can we read that DirecTV dropped G4 so that they could carry Esquire? Is it confirmed that they will broadcast Esquire? Does Esquire exist yet? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:35, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
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Sunjerbob
Uhh.....Why did u do that?Leave a note or question on my talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunjerbob (talk • contribs) 18:50, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- Why did I do what? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:58, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- u destroyed my sandbox page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunjerbob (talk • contribs)
- Your sandbox edit history only shows one edit, by you. Further, I would appreciate it if you'd please respond to posts the way other editors do, on the next line, and by signing your comments with four tildes. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:39, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- u destroyed my sandbox page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunjerbob (talk • contribs)
Oh,I'm sorry.I thought that the sandbox was a contrubiton page.So sorry. Leave a message on my article or on my talk page. --Sunjerbob (talk) 21:28, 4 March 2013 (UTC)Sunjerbob--Sunjerbob (talk) 21:28, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles-related
When it comes to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, we should at least have one "monkey" part linked under Tyler Rockwell, Rat King's rats could've helped Rat King escape mysteriously, Fishface had a hard time breathing after the mutation, the newsman with the long name mentioned things outside of the turtles like the rat invasion and Baxter Stockman's attack on TCRI, and we have no official confirmation that Leatherhead is an American alligator. Did I leave anything out? Rtkat3 (talk) 8:33, January 27 2013 (UTC)
- The much larger issue is that the character summaries are already bloated and contain far more information than is appropriate for a main article page. I've raised this objection before on the talk page. The Rat King summary, for example, could use a paragraph break once we start talking about I, Monster. Bloat.
- Yes, Rat King's rats could have helped him disappear, but that's OR. For an article like this, a perfectly reasonable description of Fishface, for example, could be something along the lines of: "Xever, a Brazilian street thug recruited to the Foot Clan by Shredder, was transformed into the fish-human monster Fishface." All the other facts about what kind of fish he was buying, or
- As for "monkey", "weed", "plant", I explained on the article talk page why we don't need wikilinks to that. See WP:MOS:TV / WP:OVERLINK. So unless there's a different guideline I'm not aware of, I don't think the common words require links. There are only two species of alligators in the world, and this show takes place in America, so it's not unreasonable to make the logical leap, but it's certainly reasonable to remove "American" if you'd like, or to remove the wikilink.Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:02, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
The Problem Solverz
Hi Cyphoidbomb. I'll tell you a few things. Start by saying personally that I am not one of the administrators or a member of that Facebook page of the show (in fact I have never registered on Facebook) but a simple Misplaced Pages user; I after I posted my first space on the talk page (to post the source, which said officially that the new season of the show was postponed due to line-up issues problems, https://www.facebook.com/TheProblemSolverz#!/photo.php?fbid=376316252436681&set=a.138755752859400.26206.135969926471316&type=1&theater) and then read your message on the talk, I had tried a few weeks ago to answer it on the talk page of the show that in one of your account, but I never received a response from you. Then that Facebook page of the show is really official, just look and read carefully this source (https://www.facebook.com/TheProblemSolverz#!/TheProblemSolverz/info), and the three sources that I posted are mean and note that this season has been repeatedly confirmed and officially announced in 2012, and are the sources before this (https://www.facebook.com/TheProblemSolverz#!/photo.php?fbid=376316252436681&set=a.138755752859400.26206.135969926471316&type=1&theater). Finally, those two sentences I wrote the last of the three (https://www.facebook.com/TheProblemSolverz#!/photo.php?fbid=348681111866862&set=a.138755752859400.26206.135969926471316&type=1&theater), are taken from there to show that the same Facebook page (as well as being official) is also very close (perhaps for the administrator) at the same Cartoon Network. Luigi1090 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:00, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
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Pablootoya19
Yup, it looks like this one has all the same signs as Rodolfootoya12. Definitely report it. Nate • (chatter) 08:30, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
March 2013
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Bubble Guppies
Why did you erase Bubble Guppies is canceled due to Boston Marathon bombings? --63.149.146.130 (talk) 15:19, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- The official reason is because there was no reliable source. The unofficial reason is because I can tell that you are hoaxing. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:14, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- That was a stupid unregistered user who actually asked why you reverted a disruptive edit and so called more attention to it. That address has now been blocked. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:46, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
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There is no need to add an episode with "TBA" as the title, your just assuming an episode will air that day. That kind of research does not belong on Misplaced Pages. Koala15 (talk) 18:57, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Why did you removed the International Brodcasting per WP:MOS:TV
Why did you remove the International Broadcasting per WP:MOS:TV? Who are you from? the United Kingdom? 99.229.41.79 (talk) 09:19, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- Read this. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:44, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- He's asking you did you live in the UK NewFranco (talk) 01:40, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- That information is not relevant to the user's understanding of the WP:MOS:TV guidelines. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:14, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- Vous me rendre fou. Vous savez, quand une personne est folle.99.229.41.79 (talk) 11:02, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- That information is not relevant to the user's understanding of the WP:MOS:TV guidelines. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:14, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- He's asking you did you live in the UK NewFranco (talk) 01:40, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Are you British
Did you lived in the UK because I think you don't have a template that informs you that you lived there. NewFranco (talk) 03:02, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you are talking about. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:03, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm talking about what did you live NewFranco (talk) 03:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- Context what is how do you do? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:33, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- I don't understand that you meant. I said "where did you live?" NewFranco (talk) 10:47, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- Context what is how do you do? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:33, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm talking about what did you live NewFranco (talk) 03:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Did you live in London
Understand what I'm saying, are you a British man 99.229.41.79 (talk) 22:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- I do understand what you are saying now. Thank you for your query. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:51, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
What so controversial about International Brodcasting
Did you delete the International Broadcasting because of it is controversial? 99.229.41.79 (talk) 02:14, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yawn. This is getting old. WP:MOS:TV#Broadcast Read it. Or don't. You're a freckle away from administrative intervention. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:19, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Apology
I'm sorry for my misunderstanding of what MOS:TV meant, the stupid things I did & calling you a crazy British man can you please don't block me. Would you accept my apology. I would never do these again 99.229.41.79 (talk) 10:39, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Huell Howser
I guess you didn't realize that {{FAG}} is a regular template! – S. Rich (talk) 19:11, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- LOL, I did not, but I discovered it seconds after reverting it and was juuuuust about to revert my own edit with the summary: "That was an unfortunate mistake." Oy. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:14, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
HiHi Puffy AmiYumi & Robotomy
Hi Cyphoidbomb, the shows Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi & Robotomy are really produced by Cartoon Network Studios. For "external", I meant that these two animated series seem to have been produced by a unique production company (for example Robotomy was only produced by World Leaders Entertainment), but if you look more closely at their closing credits in those two sources, you'll notice that Cartoon Network Studios officially held in them its production activities (but in secondary mode). Finally, in those two shows during their closing credits, are mentioned only the two executive producer for the studios (Brian A. Miller and Jennifer Pelphrey). Luigi1090 (talk)
- Continuing this discussion at Talk:Cartoon Network Studios Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:50, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Comments about Blackcobs POV
Thanks for the reminder about civility!The editor is an Australian who has taken to editing NZ history almost totally from 2 books!!His comments and edits show that he has almost no understanding of Nz history yet he persist in editing. See his previous comment on the Scott book on Parihaka! Im not sure if he is a socialist , poorly educated or is pushing an agenda-perhaps all 3? His on going use of seriously compromised sources is a real problem for wiki. He needs to read the other 500 books on Nz history and change his mind set! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.62.226.243 (talk) 22:25, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Animation production length
Darn you for proving me wrong! Haha. Your message actually helped. I was confused when kept telling me that multiple teams going at once. Obviously there are multiple people working on the show but now i know what they meant. But maybe it should be written differently since people like me might get confused. Xcleonardo (talk) 15:18, 3 June 2013 (UTC)XcleonardoXcleonardo (talk) 15:18, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hey, cool, glad it helped! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Sorry!
Hey just wanted to apologize for that slight edit on the Even Stevens article. I hadn't realized that the tense had been standardized for shows no longer running. I recall seeing some articles in past tense but I'll have to correct them instead! Jamodalamo (talk) 02:53, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
- Aww, totally no sweat! I can see why it might be intuitive to say "was" if it's no longer in production. I once read a pages-long back-and-forth about the established policy. One editor made the change you made, another editor reverted it, citing MOS:TV (I think). The reverted user was adamant that consensus was wrong and that his perspective was the only way to go and it was excrutiating to read. On the other hand, there are reasonable Misplaced Pages citizens such as yourself! Thanks for the kind note! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:21, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Well I'm glad there are people as vigilant as yourself! I'm just getting into this whole Misplaced Pages thing (i.e. contributing, not just reading) and I'm trying to figure out the best way to be involved without stepping on too many toes. So far it seems very intimidating as there are pages and pages of criteria like the one you pointed out. Are you a part of any "task forces" or groups? What's the best way to engage editors with similar interests? Jamodalamo (talk) 03:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
- Welcome to Misplaced Pages, and thank you for donating your time here! No, I'm not part of any task forces or groups. Most of my time is spent covering a lot of territory, from fixing vandalism to trimming excessive detail from articles, to answering the occasional question at the WP:HELPDESK if I can, etc.
- Misplaced Pages does has a number of "Wikiprojects" where you would definitely bump into editors with similar interests. For example, if you were interested in helping out with TV-related articles, you might look around Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Television. If that's not up your alley, there are plenty of other Wikiprojects to suit you. WikiProjects tend to have To Do lists, which could be a great way to get into the mix. The simplest way to get going, is to just look up stuff as you normally would, and when you see evil, fix it. :) When you become more comfortable with general editing, I recommend activating Twinkle, which is an indispensable tool to automate and simplify some repetitive tasks, some of which would require finding the right page or policy, copying the appropriate template, pasting the template into a user's talk page, adding an explanation, etc. Twinkle allows you to easily welcome new users, warn vandals a variety of ways, request deletion of problematic articles, report vandals to WP:AIV, etc. You can activate it by going into Preferences > Gadgets. Anyhow, there's tons of stuff to learn and to do. If I can help in any way, don't be bashful to ask; I'm happy to help and I won't perceive you as a pest. There are LOTS of things you'll likely not learn until you mess up. I highly recommend becoming familiar with What Misplaced Pages is Not, because once you know what Misplaced Pages isn't, you'll know what it is. :) And again, if you have any questions, I'm happy to help. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:12, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks so much! I really appreciate having someone to talk to over such a valuable resource. I've always wondered how all the critters running on mouse wheels powered this whole thing haha. I'm definitely interested in making edits similar to the kinds that you do, but I have to ask, what's your general approach to finding work on the site? Do you check out the backlog or just try to make edits as you run into articles that require attention? Jamodalamo (talk) 05:33, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
- I don't have any trouble finding work. I basically made a few edits here and there, and by adding pages to my watchlist (click the star that appears next to View History), I started to notice (for example) that vandals were acting up. From there, I learned about the various vandalism templates and how to use them. Then, I probably learned how to check a user's edit history to see what other kind of stuff they were submitting. I'd check those, and if they appeared to be vandalism, I'd fix 'em and possibly refer the vandal to WP:AIV. Don't get me wrong, vandals are timesucks, but combating them has taught me a bunch of important Misplaced Pages concepts from assuming good faith to being patient and WP:CIVIL, because you may have to give a vandal a dozen warnings before Admins will issue a block.
- Onto more upbeat subjects, you can always find work by looking at Recent changes. (Under the Misplaced Pages globe is an Interaction menu. Expand it and click Recent Changes.) Simply pick an edit and see if it was an improvement, grammatically, encyclopedically, etc. If you poke around there, you'll definitely find odd articles to edit, or you might check the user creation log to spot new users who may be spambots or whatever. Or you might be able to lend a hand at Misplaced Pages:Cleanup. I once rewrote an entire article about the Broadneck Peninsula in Maryland because of a request I found on the Cleanup page. Sometimes the most fun you will have on Misplaced Pages is to edit an article on a subject you know nothing about. That, I must absolutely encourage! I think also that lurking around the WP:HELPDESK will familiarize you with the kinds of common objections that come up. And if you want to surrender your life, simply reading the discussions at WP:ANI will give you the fast-track to understanding many of those opaque Misplaced Pages terms, guidelines, policies and abbreviations that are so daunting. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:00, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
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Well I learned how to do this much so far. Thanks for all the tips! Keep up the good work! Jamodalamo (talk) 01:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC) |
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Greetings From Turkey
Hello, I'm from the Turkish Misplaced Pages and for a few days we are trying to make a new team about Misplaced Pages:Cleanup. We are about to complete the team. But we have some questions about the cleanup process. What does the users in Misplaced Pages:Cleanup actually do? What should we understand from cleanup? I would be pleasured if you can give me a feedback. Nice day! Talha Samil Cakir --85.102.185.224 (talk) 22:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
- Welcome! I can't say that I know too much about it. I believe it is supposed to function as a group where you can submit problem articles for attention, and interested editors will take a look and make changes. However, it doesn't seem to get much traffic, either from people reporting problem articles, or from people who want to help fix the articles. I've only participated there a few times. That's pretty much all I know, sorry. :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:35, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Hadn't seen you in a while,just saying hey. Sunjerbob
About Nick Jr
What I posted on Nick Jr was correct, I can remember 2005, I saw those fruity indents, it's hard to remember it completeley because I was 5 years old back then, but I was right, I saw those indents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HoshiNoKaabii2000 (talk • contribs) 21:28, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hello, firstly, I don't understand what you mean by "fruity indents". Secondly, Misplaced Pages has a very clear policy governing original research, which I strongly encourage you to read. Simply because you remember something, or see something, or hear something, doesn't make that information worthy of inclusion. The information you submit has to be verifiable, and should be supported by reliable sources. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:31, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry... HoshiNoKaabii2000 —Preceding undated comment added 21:42, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Re: Turkey protests
Yes I've updated the status of the protests but couldn't fix the problem it created. I will try to re-add them again tonight. Thanks in advance. Berkaysnklf (talk), 12 July, 2013, 23:36 (UTC)
Kamarupa of Bhaskar Varman
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- Hi, Do you plan to go ahead for a RfC on this article? Chaipau (talk) 09:37, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Chaipau: Hi, thanks for touching base! I must admit I haven't thought much about this article in a while, but if you think an RfC is warranted, or if you would like to get the ball rolling on that, I'll participate. I took a look at the article this evening, and it still seems like a ponderous mess. My main problems with it at the time, were that the article had no objective, academic analysis beyond the scant public-domain published material that is heavily quoted here. I don't see that it's materially different now, except that there are more paragraph breaks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:45, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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Declined AIV
Generally at AIV we decline any report that's as long and diff-filled as yours, and refer the reporters to AN/I. The AIV guidelines for reporters say to keep things short and sweet—if someone makes a report like yours that looks complicated, the experience has been that it is complicated, and often it's someone trying to gain the upper hand in a content dispute (not implying that you are, of course). If you'd kept it to the first sentence or so, I might well have blocked by now. Daniel Case (talk) 04:17, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Ren and Stimpy
The information I provide was to inform users when the series was broadcast in UK, the series was give an early evening peak time slot. I will rewrite the piece again, with some refs to the newspapers etc. --Crazyseiko (talk) 08:37, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Son of the Bronx
Hi, This is a personal website but I suppose there could be an exception. Here's a prior discussion at RSN. I'll leave it up to your judgement. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 13:25, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hi @Keithbob: Thanks for the info. Anecdotally, and excluding occasional mentions in the trades, I typically only see two sites regularly cited for Nielsen ratings: Son of the Bronx and TV By the Numbers. I don't know what that's worth, but it's probably not very much. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:41, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Iyanya
I see that you edited Iyanya. I made a mistake. I meant to say his parents passed away. I know it sounded awkward. thanks for the correction — Preceding unsigned comment added by Versace1608 (talk • contribs)
- @Versace1608: No probs. I made a few more changes to that article. I tried to dial back some of the promotional language. The purpose of the article is not to glamorize the person, but to report on them. Take care. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:01, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
August 2013
Hi. I've been researching for reviews on Nick Studio 10, and when you told me about "original research" (Which is Misplaced Pages's way of accusing others of speculation), Nickipedia, a Nickelodeon wiki, has the reasons why the comedy block was considered the worst. If you think I'm wrong, go here. Likely Ally (talk) 04:22, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Likely Ally: Hi, thank you for reaching out to me. I understand that you are relatively new here, so you might not understand all of the principles that keep Misplaced Pages going. Firstly, the issues are almost never about whether or not what you wrote is "right" or "wrong. One of the reasons why your edits raise red flags, is that very few, if any, of your contributions have provided sources to back up your claims. Now, I appreciate that you've written back and directed me to a Nickelodeon wiki, but none of the content at Wikia.com, or TV.com, or TVTropes.com, or UrbanDictionary, or the super-popular IMDb, or even Misplaced Pages itself, can be cited as a reliable source because the information they report are contributed by users, and there is no clear editorial oversight. That means that anybody with a specific hope or a personal belief or even an axe to grind, could contribute to these sites and manipulate how Misplaced Pages reports their favorite or hated subject matter. So the short answer is, if you write, "A lot of fans felt this episode sucked", that information will be removed, and even if you source that position, "A lot of fans on Wikia.com expressed their feelings that this episode sucked", that information will be removed because the source is not reliable. Misplaced Pages doesn't care that some angry, organized, vocal fans expressed concern about something, unless that information comes through a reliable, and independent reliable source. So, if the Washington Post found it noteworthy that a few dozen protesters came out to protest the latest Ridge Racer game over digital privacy concerns, that would be notable because it's not just trivial hatred, it was also reported by a major news source. Hope that helps. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, and another thing, when you clarified your edit to this page where "mixed" means both positive and negative, you do realize that both "mixed to positive" and "mixed to negative" have been used all over the wiki. It doesn't bother me, so why does it bother you? Likely Ally (talk) 04:25, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Likely Ally: My edit summary was pretty self-explanatory: "Mixed" implies both positive and negative reception. Thus, "mixed to positive" or "mixed to negative" is redundant. You are attempting to argue that because "mixed to positive" and "mixed to negative" is in wide usage across the wiki, it should be acceptable any time you use it. I counter-argue that this is an "appeal to popularity" logical fallacy. Just because everybody writes "alot" instead of "a lot", doesn't mean "alot" is the correct word to use when you mean "a lot". If what you're trying to say is that the game received "generally negative" reviews, that might be a valid statement, provided you could back it up with enough reliable sources to support a "generally negative" review, which you also did not do. So that's why it bothers me and not you. You may or may not find this related discussion interesting as I started it shortly after reverting your contribution, although it was not specifically motivated by your edit(s). Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: Just because of a simple phrase doesn't mean you can flat out assume I'm arguing. I've seen other users place "mixed to positive" and "mixed to negative" all over the wiki, and I do not accept those two phrases every time. If you go to this , you'll see that one of the aforementioned phrases is seen there. Secondly, what does the word "a lot" have to do with the discussion? It's not mandatory to this because both "a lot", and "alot" mean the same thing. If this bothers you, you shouldn't get furious with the user who did this stuff. Just try to keep calm, and reason with him or her. We don't want to turn this little conflict into one big problem. Likely Ally (talk) 16:22, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Likely Ally: 1) "Argument" doesn't only mean "angry fight". An argument is a statement in favor of a position. "It's used all over the wiki" is a statement in favor (an argument) of continuing to use "mixed to positive". 2) I don't know why you're lecturing me about not getting "furious". 3) "Alot" was an example of something that is wrong no matter how many times it is misused. 4) I think I've done a fairly reasonable job explaining original research to you and attempting to explain why "mixed to negative" is meaningless. Since it doesn't appear I can do any more to help you, I'll be on my way. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:52, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: Just because of a simple phrase doesn't mean you can flat out assume I'm arguing. I've seen other users place "mixed to positive" and "mixed to negative" all over the wiki, and I do not accept those two phrases every time. If you go to this , you'll see that one of the aforementioned phrases is seen there. Secondly, what does the word "a lot" have to do with the discussion? It's not mandatory to this because both "a lot", and "alot" mean the same thing. If this bothers you, you shouldn't get furious with the user who did this stuff. Just try to keep calm, and reason with him or her. We don't want to turn this little conflict into one big problem. Likely Ally (talk) 16:22, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Likely Ally: My edit summary was pretty self-explanatory: "Mixed" implies both positive and negative reception. Thus, "mixed to positive" or "mixed to negative" is redundant. You are attempting to argue that because "mixed to positive" and "mixed to negative" is in wide usage across the wiki, it should be acceptable any time you use it. I counter-argue that this is an "appeal to popularity" logical fallacy. Just because everybody writes "alot" instead of "a lot", doesn't mean "alot" is the correct word to use when you mean "a lot". If what you're trying to say is that the game received "generally negative" reviews, that might be a valid statement, provided you could back it up with enough reliable sources to support a "generally negative" review, which you also did not do. So that's why it bothers me and not you. You may or may not find this related discussion interesting as I started it shortly after reverting your contribution, although it was not specifically motivated by your edit(s). Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Jason Cruise
Hello Cyphoidbomb. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Jason Cruise, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: It's a close one, but I think the number of sources, whilst all thin, is enough for A7. I don't think there's enough for the GNG< but that needs to be decided at AFD. Thank you. GedUK 15:53, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
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All secondary schools are considered notable at Misplaced Pages & A7 cannot be used for schools of any kind DGG ( talk ) 20:07, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- @DGG: Hey, I appreciate the edification, thank you! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:16, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hello there, I'm the editor of the Wind Music(Record Label) Page. In my opinion, I can't see any of the articles as promotional ones I just put some more facts on this page because it was too simplified in the previous versions Plesase give me some examples of what is "promotional" thank you very much! Really appreciate your time on all the wikipedia pages, it must be a hard task
Cheers, Victor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victor20030101 (talk • contribs) 03:54, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Victor20030101: Hi Victor, thank you for your response. I'm happy to provide you with some examples, but first, and because you are a relatively new editor, I should point out a few core Misplaced Pages expectations. Misplaced Pages articles must be written from a neutral point of view. Flowery language about how great or original or innovative or creative something is, probably has no place on Misplaced Pages. There is a very comprehensive document detailing all the things that Misplaced Pages is not, here. Misplaced Pages is not Facebook, LinkedIn, MySpace, a telephone directory, the classified ads in a newspaper, etc. Articles cannot contain "original research", that is, editors cannot state as fact things they have personally observed, interpreted, experienced, felt, believed, etc. Claims that could be disputed, must be verifiable, specifically by the inclusion of reliable sources. Articles must be written in encyclopedic tone, and with proper grammar, etc. And also importantly, anybody who has a close relationship to the article subject, whether they are employees of the company or the founder, or a spouse, etc., needs to be aware that they are heavily discouraged from editing, as they have a significant conflict of interest, and likely cannot make objective contributions.
- Now getting into the article, it is, by my estimation, saturated with promotional language, subjective phrases, jargon, and peacock phrases that only serve to promote the subject without imparting any real information. Here are a few problematic statements: "It was formed by a group of musicians passionate and concerned about the local Taiwanese music environment." Passion is subjective. Who says the musicians were passionate? Who says they were concerned with the environment? Where is the independent reliable source to establish this? Why does this sound like a press release? "Wind Music expects to take advantage of innovation and music vitality to lead the Taiwanese music market." Says who? Is "music vitality" a scientific term? "Successfully" is subjective. Who cares what Wind Music hopes, and who says that's what they hope? "Non-traditional approaches" is subjective, especially without any context for comparison. Was nobody setting up in-store demos before Wind Music? Can you source that? "Fine quality recordings" is subjective. Who decides that their recordings are fine? And "artistic exquisiteness" is about as non-neutral as you can get; it's not only press-release talk, it's also pretentious gibberish. "Extensive experience" is again, subjective, and is something you'd expect to read in a resume. If Wind Music is as important as you say, surely there are independent reliable sources to speak to their importance, without having to rely on unsourced claims that read like a resume. Those are only some of the problems that exist in the article lead. There are are far more examples in the article body. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:36, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
VP44444
Given how long VP44444 has been active and how many warnings they have been given, their refusal to follow Misplaced Pages guidelines is practically a kind of vandalism (or utter cluelessness). I think if they persist and continue to ignore other users, going to WP:ANI seems reasonable. Trivialist (talk) 23:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
changing name
how do i change the name of other articles like the way other people do — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unorginal7 (talk • contribs) 09:11, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Timur
I'm raising an SPI - meanwhile, you are over 3RR and these edits aren't an exception, so if you continue and Unka does also after his warning, you might both be blocked. Which would be a shame. Dougweller (talk) 15:01, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- @Dougweller: Hi Doug, I've not yet seen the 3RR rule wielded against someone active in good-faith anti-vandalism, (i.e. me) or for people maintaining the WP:STATUSQUO (also me), but then I still have a lot of stuff to see around Misplaced Pages. I suppose also that my edits could be construed as a content dispute instead of vandal quelling. I don't have an agenda at the page, since I don't even know anything about Timur. (Not sure exactly how he wound up on my Watchlist unless I was vandal-chasing.) Anyhow, your point is noted! I've no interest in winding up on the wrong side of the fence in the eyes of my peers. I appreciate your note, and I shall move along; scrubbing Timur from Watchlist! Thanks, and sorry for the headache. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:44, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I have - even on very experienced editors. Don't worry about it, but I am always very careful and rarely even go past 3 reverts (and then only accidentally if I do). I realise it was all in good faith but it could be interpreted as a content dispute too easily. Leave Timur on your list, please, there aren't enough people watching it. This will be sorted I'm sure. Dougweller (talk) 19:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- @Dougweller: Okay, cool. The 3RR seems somewhat pointless when dealing with unambiguous vandalism, (ex: someone adding "Fart!" to an article) what, should we leave it? Isn't ClueBot exempt from 3RR? And even in a case of more ambiguous vandalism (Timur, pushing POV), it would seem counterproductive to punish the one restoring the sourced data. But I know that the community can sometimes have its inconsistencies. (any rule vs ignore all rules!) :) Again, I appreciate your polite note. Take care! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:56, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know if you noticed, but I was right about the sockpuppetry. Sock blocked for good, Unka10 for a week. Dougweller (talk) 08:49, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- @Dougweller: I did, good call! Why, that almost justifies my going over the 3RR! :) Hopefully that'll be that with him. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:37, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know if you noticed, but I was right about the sockpuppetry. Sock blocked for good, Unka10 for a week. Dougweller (talk) 08:49, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- @Dougweller: Okay, cool. The 3RR seems somewhat pointless when dealing with unambiguous vandalism, (ex: someone adding "Fart!" to an article) what, should we leave it? Isn't ClueBot exempt from 3RR? And even in a case of more ambiguous vandalism (Timur, pushing POV), it would seem counterproductive to punish the one restoring the sourced data. But I know that the community can sometimes have its inconsistencies. (any rule vs ignore all rules!) :) Again, I appreciate your polite note. Take care! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:56, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I have - even on very experienced editors. Don't worry about it, but I am always very careful and rarely even go past 3 reverts (and then only accidentally if I do). I realise it was all in good faith but it could be interpreted as a content dispute too easily. Leave Timur on your list, please, there aren't enough people watching it. This will be sorted I'm sure. Dougweller (talk) 19:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry sidelines
I'm afraid I wouldn't know the exact secret recipe the CU's use to say that someone was a certain sock of somebody (in the latest TRCG volley on WOIO with Jacob21703 I really wasn't sure until they hit the seventh revert because they had good edits, and I had pretty much ceased dealing with the minor issue I had with the image, but the tech info in the CU panned out). Pretty much they read our incident reports and compare the information already in the report; for instance unless they're sadists, most usually stick to one static DSL/cable IP and a varying range of IP addresses on their cell provider or broadband stick, or have a ball when they go on vacation and get on the hotel/relative's wifi, or like TRCG has done, grabbed a store's connection and hit the usual targets. Basically I go on remembrance of past behavior and looking at my past reverts; something pops out and I know who it is. It's pretty much up to us to build a report so if CU has something they have to do they have all the help they need from us. Thanks for asking. Nate • (chatter) 07:25, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
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Well, assume good faith, keep trying to reach them through their talk page, and hope they get the hint. :) Trivialist (talk) 11:43, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:16, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
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Voice Cast Vandal
Hello Cyphoidbomb. While I don't think that particular editor is the Voice Cast Vandal (as you also surmised), I'm glad you brought it up as I was unfamiliar with them. I have no particular affinity for voice acting or animated articles, they just come up under recent changes a lot. I'm guessing I have probably seen this person's edits before but obviously have no idea what I did about them. I will definitely keep this in mind whenever I see edits of this nature again. Thanks. SQGibbon (talk) 19:43, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Apology
I'm sorry for what I did? I promise I won't do it again Squidville1 (talk) 10:44, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
WP:SPI
I'll keep an eye on it, but you seem to have documented things pretty well. :)
You may want to assume a bit of good faith regarding grammar, misspellings, etc.; sometimes what seems like a troll or vandal may just be a young kid, or someone who's not the greatest communicator. Though in NewFranco's case it may be all of the above... Trivialist (talk) 20:50, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- @Trivialist: Good point re: AGF on spelling, etc. I appreciate your advice. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:01, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
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Rack/Shack
What?!?! You think its the same guy?!?! What?!?! ;-) Thanks for letting me know! Ckruschke (talk) 01:14, 18 September 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke