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Lightsaber combat

• delete nn-not-real-sport-cruft— Milkandwookiees 16:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep Per this. Definite bad faith nom. Yanksox 16:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, agree w/ Yanksox. This article could be pared down considerably, but there is no basis for deletion. Kafziel 16:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - the article contains a lot of detailed information which should not simply be deleted. It is of great interest to people such as myself, and is the sort of thing wikipedia is made for. Also, per Yanksox. --Tim 17:09, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Bad faith or otherwise, this is pure fancruft. Delete and good riddance. Take it to Wookieepedia. -- GWO
• Delete per nom.--Brownlee 17:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep, it is a large article made by star wars fans (obviously), it appears to be quite good and shouldn't be deleted without a good reason, "nn-not-real-sport-cruft" doesn't fit with me as a valid reason to delete such an article.--Andeh 17:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment user currently has 5 edits and may have afded this in bad faith, per Tim.--Andeh 17:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. I think this is probably of enough interest not to be deleted as 'fancruft'. Trebor 18:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Strong delete, textbook definition of non-notable fancruft... or to be more specific: very large obsessively and scarily detailed fancruft. It's not remotely suitable for Misplaced Pages. As GWO noted, take it wookieepedia. Or possible turn it into a Wikibook so all the wannabe Jedi Knights can learn their stuff... and you won't have the same extreme problems of trying to justify its existence in an encylopedia. - Motor (talk) 19:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• No vote - Just wanted to say that the cruft level of this article is an embarrassment. While I'm not sure whether or not this should be here, it should certainly be trimmed to something readable at least... Wickethewok 19:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I've removed the "speedy" from my "keep" since it certainly doesn't apply anymore, but since this was nom'd w/o discussion and is more than a year old, with many different editors having contributed to it, I think it deserves a chance to be cut down (by a lot) rather than being completely erased out of hand. Real-life content is possible; I assume the actors (if there were any real actors in the prequels) performing the stunts did have to learn all that stuff. If the fan fiction stuff can be reduced to a minimum and replaced with reality, it could have a place here. The rest can move to Wookieepedia. Kafziel 19:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree strongly as well. This is utterly terrifying in its degree of absorption in its subject, and I find myself hoping that somehow a compromise can be found in which I, when reading it, am reminded at least every few pages that the whole thing's fictional. Cruft-smanship doesnt even begin to cover this. Hornplease 05:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

• Strong delete. This entire article seems to be one absolutely huge case of original research — at least, I don't see a cite anywhere. Am I missing something? — WCityMike (talk • contribs) 20:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. The various forms are used extensively to characterize SW characters. --maru (talk) contribs 20:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WCityMike. Or transwookiewiki. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 20:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Just because this subject is covered extensively elsewhere doesn't mean that it shouldn't be covered here. So what if some people here don't like Star Wars minutae? The form info is not fan fiction but actually taken from sources at Starwars.com and rpg sources. Obviously, clean up and more citing is needed. Coridan | (talk) 6 June 2006
• Delete as per nomination. Nertz 00:39, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as the basic information already exists in the article for lightsaber. You know it's bad when an inclusionist like me wants to get rid of it. Rob 14:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep, but only if sufficient information cites are added. Delete per nom if not. Voice of Treason 14:28, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
• keep for reasons already stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arikane (talk • contribs)
• Strong keep for reasons already stated. It's interesting! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nell (talk • contribs)
• Weak keep and cleanup. While I'm a big fan of linking to Wookieepedia, I think a good Misplaced Pages article exists somewhere in here. Obviously needs citing and probably some trimming, but I'd like to give the editors a chance to address those concerns first. BryanG 22:04, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Very important part of a very important fictional universe. More important to actual characterization than, say, most Middle-earth places. -LtNOWIS 02:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
• Transwookie this is too much unverifiable fancruft. Eluchil404 02:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
• This page contains very interesting information about the Star Wars saga and absolutely should not be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.246.2.6 (talk • contribs)
• Speedy Keep Sure it could be formatted a bit better; that just means we should work on improving it, rather than deleting it altogether. EVula 18:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete Cruft and orginal research. Justinpwilsonadvocate 18:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)