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Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you. Tobes 11:57, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

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		Keep up the good work on language-related articles! SalaSkan 22:46, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Meanwhile, you may find it useful to create a user page. Here, you can tell things about yourself and keep logs of things you'd like to remember. Again, thank you! SalaSkan 22:46, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Dutch telephone directories

Suppose you read that in kiKungili telephone directories the letters "B", "H", "R" and "W" are sorted the same, and that thanks to this the surnames Byatt, Hyatt, Ryatt and Wyatt can be found in the same spot. Wouldn't you be somewhat puzzled? The advantage of sorting is that different name are found in different spots. Only if they know that in kiKungili those four letters are considered variants of the same letter, and that those four names sound the same when pronounced, can a reader appreciate the advantage. Likewise, the typical Misplaced Pages reader, who doesn't know Dutch, may not immediately see how sorting Bruijn and Bruyn to the same place should be advantageous. You keep removing information that makes this understandable. It also appears that you have some conception about the use or meaning of the term "variant" that I don't understand. Do you think the word is used incorrectly on the following pages: , , , ?  --Lambiam 10:54, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

The way it was used now was (in my opinion) not ideal. In the example Bruijn/Bruyn there's surely something to be said for it but not necessarily in all cases where surnames exist with ij and y these surnames are related. Still, you may be right that I was too brief. Therefore I have expanded the sentence a bit so that your meaning is explicitely "voiced". Richard 14:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Barents

Thanks for the help! Sherurcij 10:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

so-called etiquette

I am galled. Not only by the comment but by your stubborn persistence that it remain. It is clearly offensive to at least 10 million people and should not be presented as mainstream Netherlandic thought. Misplaced Pages relies on the printed word and editors that give their opinions. But this is offensive, nothing else. The only possible rationale for inclusion is continued prejudice. You crassly disregard common standards with this unfortunate statement. Its educational value is Nil...Nada...Nothing. You can surround it with subtle verbs like percieved and dipicted but this does not change a thing. I am not pushing my POV---I am merely protecting it. I will continue to correct this type of slander...here and elsewhere. We are creating a new encyclopedia for the Ages. Not the Dark Ages, tho!--Buster7 (talk) 22:46, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

BTW...No "perhaps" about it!. It has EVERYTHING to do with my heritage--Buster7 (talk) 23:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

This section is part of a larger discussion on Buster7's talk page that will soon be moved to Talk:Dutch customs and etiquette. Please don't add comments here. Richard 11:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

internal/external links

I'm basically flying around WikiWorld by "the seat of my pants", not always sure that the way I'm doing things is right or the most efficient for all concerned. I guess that's obvious. I appreciate your advice. It will make me a better editor. Bedankt.--Buster7 (talk) 10:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Geen probleem ;) Richard 11:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

editing talk pages

Hi, I noticed you correcting a grammar mistake on Talk:Dutch customs and etiquette. If this were mainspace very good. However, it is general custom not to change talk page entries by others. While many corrections (like yours) will not be a problem, it is sometimes hard to interpret when you start changing the intention of the original editor. As Talk pages are only intended for other editors perfect grammar or style are not so much important, while the original psoting often is. So my advise, do not change texts on talk pages (except for your own). Cheers. Arnoutf (talk) 19:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

FIFA World Cup

I was just about to say the same about the singular article....a....but you said it better. Thanks! As you can see, I'm still giving editors grief over Grammar and Usage of the English Language.--Buster7 (talk) 07:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Curious about what your edit does

Hi, Richardw! I just saw this edit you made, and I am curious, what does that do? I tried searching for this in Misplaced Pages help and elsewhere, but could not find anything. I also tried looking at the page before and after your change, but I can't spot any visual difference. Thank you in advance for satisfying my curiosity! CosineKitty (talk) 18:37, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi CosineKitty,

until yesterday I didn't know the {{-}} template either but the change H Debussy-Jones made had an unwanted side effect in my browser: the {{Time measurement and standards}} template was partially hidden under the list of categories. In that same edit (s)he used the {{-}} template. I was also curious what that was, so I looked it up and it turned out to be "shorthand" for <br style="clear:both" />. Since that was just what I needed to get a properly displayed page again, I added a second {{-}}. That's all.

Richard 07:29, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

OK, that makes sense. I have been using Google Chrome recently (converted from Firefox). There was one occasion where I had to make a similar fix to the article about Morse code to fix a problem that was visible only in Chrome. CosineKitty (talk) 16:54, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Indeed: similar problem, basically same solution. Richard 07:35, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Tree image

I wanted to point out that the image Lone_Cypress.jpg is actually hosted on Wikimedia Commons, not here. The image is provided there for all people to use, under a free license. If you feel the image is not actually free of copyright, you should start a discussion there. Removing the image from the article here does not change its availability on Wikimedia Commons. — Carl (CBM · talk) 11:53, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

I know that that image is on commons and that it's free to use. My last edit on 17-Mile Drive removed a different image that does NOT exist (17milecypruspoint-crop.jpg). That, plus I changed an indirect link to a direct one (] to ]. In my (truncated) edit summary I mentioned that applicability of "freedom of panorama" on private property is arguable, since on private property permission may be required. Richard 13:34, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Regarding Brasstown North Carolina Tornado

Brasstown, the community, resides inside the township of Brasstown, that covers the western portion of clay county. I would bet money that the tornado is described in relation to the location unincorporated community (as the township is a larger area and therefore less accurate for describing the location of anything, in addition to the fact that there's very little reference to the townships themselves that I've seen.)

user:ncboy2010, 10:00PM EST —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.63.8 (talk) 02:01, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Ramstein Airshow

Thanks for the edit help. It was getting late and I wanted to make sure the references were there. Also, the memories of that day were starting to come back and I needed to take a break.--DeknMike (talk) 17:19, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

My pleasure. Richard 17:31, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Deprecated Unicode glyphs

Hello! I spotted your comment at user talk:Martijn Hoekstra:

although there is one (1) glyph for "ij", its use is officially discouraged. See (among other places) here and here.
— User:Richardw 09:10, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Could you please be a bit more verbose on this? Actually, I'm interested in second link: it deprecates the use of Unicode glyphs U+01C4 – U+01CC, which can't be properly written otherwise. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 09:43, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Hej Dmitrij! Well... it says you should use individual letters and allow the software to create these ligatures where appropriate so in the case of (for instance) U+01C4 I think you should use a D followed by a Ž (U+017D) (resulting in DŽ). Richard 09:58, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that these are not ligatures, these are letters. Eg. the Serbian word "injekcija" has 10 letters (with second letter "n" and third — "j"), but the word "njen" has only three letters (first letter — "nj"). This is apparently evident with the words spelled in both Cyrillic and Latin alphabets: these words are "инјекција" and "њен" accordingly. Writing the letters in question as separate glyphs creates ambiguity and hinders some tasks. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 10:22, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I didn't write the recommendation but I see your point. unicode.org itself makes the same recommandation by the way. Richard 11:02, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, as I get it, the chart You linked doesn't deprecate the letters I talk about: they are classified as Croatian digraphs matching Serbian Cyrillic letters and are not marked as "historic", "deprecated" or "compatibility". I contacted you as I thought you might know something about SIL's document you've linked to. Anyway, I think I would better address my questions to its auther. Thanks! — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 12:51, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I couldn't be of more constructive help. Good luck on your quest, and should you receive more information: I'm always eager to learn something new, so if you could keep me posted I'd be much obliged. Richard 13:10, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Minor barnstar
	Minor edits are often overlooked, but are essential contributions to Misplaced Pages. Thanks for sticking around and making steady improvements to encyclopedia over the years. (You recently passed 1,000 edits to articles!) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 18:49, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Richard 06:51, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello

Hi. Nice to see you here.Jeff5102 (talk) 07:51, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Likewise ;) Richard 08:56, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

O yes, maybe you can look here. I`ve gotten myself into a fine mess, as Oliver Hardy would say. ;) Regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 12:01, 9 October 2013 (UTC)