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| ==''Conservative Judaism'' article merger proposal== | |||
| == Merge articles? == | |||
| It doesn't seem right that the main link to Conservative in the 'Jew' template goes here, rather than the more general ] article. In fact, I'm not sure that it needs to be a separate article at all. I propose merging this article and ] into one main article on Conservative/Masorti Judaism, with smaller individual articles about the Conservative/Masorti movement in each particular country. This would help address Rick86's question above, too. | |||
| Any thoughts? ] 11:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : I for one fullheartedly agree. Conservative Judaism is 'traditional' Judaism, and in that sense doesn't differ from Masorti Judaism, which is based on the same principles (with a few minor differences). In that sense I also find it a good idea to have smaller individual articles about the Conservative/Masorti movement in each particular country. I am willing to do my share in changing this and writing a few articles. ] 13:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I have an objection to this proposed merge. Your argument, in theory, make sense. But in practice I believe that most English speaking Jews would describe "Conservative Judaism" as the more general movement, and use other terms - such as "Masorti" - for more regional specific movements of Conservative Judaism. | |||
| ::If we wanted to strictly describe Conservative Judaism through its institutional structures, one would end up defining a little known and poorly funded group - Masorti Olami - as the main point, and everything else would be underneath it as sub-sections. To wit: | |||
| ::*Masorti Olami - The World Council of Conservative/Masorti Synagogues | |||
| ::**United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism (North America) | |||
| ::**The Masorti Movement in Israel | |||
| ::**The Assembly of Masorti Synagogues - Conservative Judaism in the United Kingdom | |||
| ::**The Neolog Movement in Hungary | |||
| ::**(Whatever the Conservative Jews in Argentina call themselves, I don't know.) | |||
| ::In practice, people use the term "Masorti" to refer speficially to the Conservative movement in Israel, and less often, in the UK. Now, many Conservative Jews believe that Conservative Judaism in North America ''should'' rename itself as ''Masorti''. No less a figure than Rabbi ] holds this way. But these suggestions haven't taken hold. | |||
| ::Nonetheless, I do ''not'' disagree with your descriptions. I think the best of both worlds would be to slightly rewrite the introduction to make your points clear, e.g. "Conservative Judaism is 'traditional' Judaism, and in that sense doesn't differ from Masorti Judaism, which is based on the same principles (with a few minor differences)." ] 00:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Conservative Judaism article merger proposal
Merge articles?
It doesn't seem right that the main link to Conservative in the 'Jew' template goes here, rather than the more general Masorti article. In fact, I'm not sure that it needs to be a separate article at all. I propose merging this article and Masorti into one main article on Conservative/Masorti Judaism, with smaller individual articles about the Conservative/Masorti movement in each particular country. This would help address Rick86's question above, too. Any thoughts? Nomist 11:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- I for one fullheartedly agree. Conservative Judaism is 'traditional' Judaism, and in that sense doesn't differ from Masorti Judaism, which is based on the same principles (with a few minor differences). In that sense I also find it a good idea to have smaller individual articles about the Conservative/Masorti movement in each particular country. I am willing to do my share in changing this and writing a few articles. Rick86 13:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- I have an objection to this proposed merge. Your argument, in theory, make sense. But in practice I believe that most English speaking Jews would describe "Conservative Judaism" as the more general movement, and use other terms - such as "Masorti" - for more regional specific movements of Conservative Judaism.
- If we wanted to strictly describe Conservative Judaism through its institutional structures, one would end up defining a little known and poorly funded group - Masorti Olami - as the main point, and everything else would be underneath it as sub-sections. To wit:
- Masorti Olami - The World Council of Conservative/Masorti Synagogues
- United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism (North America)
- The Masorti Movement in Israel
- The Assembly of Masorti Synagogues - Conservative Judaism in the United Kingdom
- The Neolog Movement in Hungary
- (Whatever the Conservative Jews in Argentina call themselves, I don't know.)
- Masorti Olami - The World Council of Conservative/Masorti Synagogues
- In practice, people use the term "Masorti" to refer speficially to the Conservative movement in Israel, and less often, in the UK. Now, many Conservative Jews believe that Conservative Judaism in North America should rename itself as Masorti. No less a figure than Rabbi Elliot N. Dorff holds this way. But these suggestions haven't taken hold.
- Nonetheless, I do not disagree with your descriptions. I think the best of both worlds would be to slightly rewrite the introduction to make your points clear, e.g. "Conservative Judaism is 'traditional' Judaism, and in that sense doesn't differ from Masorti Judaism, which is based on the same principles (with a few minor differences)." RK 00:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)