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Can we get your opinion regarding minor content dispute here. . My interpretation is that user: Jingiby is being 'liberal', to put it mildly, with his interpretation of the sources , jumping from the notion that there was no distinct Macedonian identity to an idea that somehow 'but Macedonia's location had been forgotten and designated in areas mostly outside the ancient Macedonian kingdom, vanishing completely after the Ottoman conquest". Sounds like uter nonsense. How can a culturally and political central region, at the heart of 3 Empires be 'forgotten'. It reads like OR, POV or simply poor grammer. ] (]) 23:26, 12 December 2013 (UTC) Can we get your opinion regarding minor content dispute here. . My interpretation is that user: Jingiby is being 'liberal', to put it mildly, with his interpretation of the sources , jumping from the notion that there was no distinct Macedonian identity to an idea that somehow 'but Macedonia's location had been forgotten and designated in areas mostly outside the ancient Macedonian kingdom, vanishing completely after the Ottoman conquest". Sounds like uter nonsense. How can a culturally and political central region, at the heart of 3 Empires be 'forgotten'. It reads like OR, POV or simply poor grammer. ] (]) 23:26, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
: I haven't had time to review either the sources or the exact context and appropriateness of their use in the article, but on first sight the text you object against at least doesn't sound quite implausible. As far as I know, the term Macedonia was indeed used in geographical senses widely disjoint from the original ancient meaning, and it may well have been the case that it was largely discontinued as a name of any concrete modern territory in common usage at some stage. I'd need more time to figure out if it really makes sense to stress such a claim at that point in the article though. ] ] 14:11, 13 December 2013 (UTC) : I haven't had time to review either the sources or the exact context and appropriateness of their use in the article, but on first sight the text you object against at least doesn't sound quite implausible. As far as I know, the term Macedonia was indeed used in geographical senses widely disjoint from the original ancient meaning, and it may well have been the case that it was largely discontinued as a name of any concrete modern territory in common usage at some stage. I'd need more time to figure out if it really makes sense to stress such a claim at that point in the article though. ] ] 14:11, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
::Hi Future. Some editors are losing their nerves and trying to ''take revenge''? In fact the region of Macedonia really changed its location during Byzantine times and even its name was lost in the early Ottoman Balkans. ] (]) 06:19, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

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Re-VibhintaVerma.jpg image Problem

Hi, The vibhinta verma image has not yet published anywhere online, It is perfectly safe to use it on Misplaced Pages. There will be no copyright issue at all. and there will be no problem in future regarding copyright. Candicell

Steve Hodges

Hi, Steve Hodges gave permission for his official photo to be used on Misplaced Pages the day before the election. He lost the special election for congress so I doubt that we will have a photo of him available again. The note that he gave his permission to use the photo was in the boxes under the photo and on the talk page. without the one picture of him, the special congressional election for MO_08 at Misplaced Pages looks very biased for the man elected. I admit that I have trouble trolling through the wp jargon and do not understand all the image permissions, but it seems that to keep the unbiased nature of wp and because he sent written permission, the photo of Steve Hodges for Congress 2013 should be returned to Misplaced Pages, but by somebody with a greater understanding of wp permissions...like you perhaps. thank you!

Thessaloniki picture

Hi. I added a picture of many Thessaloniki landmarks but it was changed again. I think this high resolution picture that shows 6 Thessaloniki landmarks is much better than just the White Tower. If you see Athens, it has a picture with many landmarks than just the Acropolis for example. Here's the picture I talk about

http://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Thessaloniki_collage.jpg

Thank you!

Help

Could you please tell me how to not violate the copywriter policy because I am new to Misplaced Pages and want to add images to visually improve articles. I tried uploaded several images like Malik al-Ashtar's grave.jpg ‎but it got deleted for copywriter issues. Thanks

Picture Deletion

Hello again. Re deleted page File:Samuel West at the London Film Festival screening of Hyde Park on Hudson, October 2012.jpg, I've now got signed clarification from the photographer agreeing to free use, so I hope it's okay to repost. Thanks for your guidance on this. I still don't know how to remove the box asking for citations! Best wishes.

Personal attack.

Damn, you're flagging everything I upload, aren't you? This is a personal attack, isn't it? Lmfao. On a serious note, could you please help me upload these pics you're flagging. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Versace1608 (talkcontribs)

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Marcus Dyrus Hill

Hello,

I'm currently awaiting a response by SoloMid, his team. Is it possible to have some extra time because I don't wish the photos to get removed.

SeeminglySubdued

Don't leave Rude comments on my page.

And you don't change anything within Berke Khan's bio because clearly you know nothing about him.

I am a 2nd year History student and Berke Khan happens to be my distant ancestor.

Cheers!

Billy Fury mural image

Hi, as advised I have asked for copyright clarification and given a background history of the image at the copyright questions page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions#Re_tag_for_Billy_Fury_mural_image

Best wishes Tom

Sub Arturo plebs

Really great and detailed article! We're talking about it on the Facebook Ars Nova group. Very impressed! -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 18:14, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

File:Heinrich Boere.jpg

So sorry to upload in violation of F7. Doesn't WP:F7 Where it says "the subject of sourced commentary" in "...Non-free images or media from a commercial source (e.g., Associated Press, Getty), where the file itself is not the subject of sourced commentary, are considered an invalid claim of fair use and fail the strict requirements of WP:NFCC; and may be deleted immediately...." doesn't that mean if the photo is the subject of the article then it's okay? I must be missing something obvious. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:30, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Anna! From what I can see, the issue here is that actually, the photo isn't the subject of the article, rather, the person shown in the photo is. The criterion you're referring to doesn't allow a non-free image if it shows the subject of sourced commentary, but only if it is itself the subject of the commentary. So for example, that image could only occur if there were something in the article talking about that specific photo of Heinrich Boere. (See here for an example of a non-free image of a living person that can be used legitimately, as this picture itself is discussed in the article text.) I hope this helps! I'm not speaking for FutPerf, of course, only stating my own knowledge of policy. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 09:22, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Heim for this explanation; that's basically the point I'd be making. When I wrote the questionnaire for the file upload script, I was trying really hard to explain this distinction between "the image itself" and "the thing or person shown in the image", but it's apparently still a point that escapes many uploaders. Fut.Perf. 09:33, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Ahhhhh, "the file itself". Thank you Heimstern for clearing this up. Thank you Future Perfect at Sunrise for your tolerance. I'm an idiot, and will be more careful next time. Best wishes to you both. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Being a little harsh on yourself, don't you think? Lots of people get this one confused, and then lots of them show up in angry huffs on admins' talk pages when the images get deleted, so your approach thus far has been nice compared to what we often experience. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:19, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you kindly. But really, it was plain as day and I missed it. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Synonyms of multiple origins

In many languages, there are sets of synonyms coming from different strata. In English, there are Germanic and Romance synonyms (calf/veal); in Turkish (esp. Ottoman Turkish), Turkic/Persian/Arabic (kara/siyah/?, ak/?/beyaz); in Japanese, Japanese and Chinese; in most European languages, local/Latinate/Greek (benediction/eulogy/...). Is there a technical name for this phenomenon, either for the individual word or for the language vocabulary? Thanks, --Macrakis (talk) 14:47, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, but I can't really think of any specific term either. I might call them "register-specific synonym pairs" or something along those lines, but I don't remember having seen any fixed conventional term to refer to them. Fut.Perf. 14:13, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Henry Earl

FPAS, I've reverted your blanking in violation of WP:BLPBAN, and noted my reversion in the log. While it may be that a consensus could develop to overturn my action, a few people commenting at ANI, who do not exceed at the time of this writing those voting to overturn the original close at the appropriate DRV, don't amount to a consensus. I encourage you to read and review the discussion on my talk page and in the DRV, rather than just the ANI. I assure you that my reasoning is in no way, shape, or form frivolous, and that I do strongly believe that by Misplaced Pages failing to honor our own inclusion guidelines with respect to Mr. Earl, especially during the U.S. holiday season, we do him a material disservice. Have you read last week's CNN article on him? It calls for people to help him out, and that is precisely what I hope people do, and hope that Misplaced Pages editors understand they will be hindering if this otherwise notable gentleman's bio is deleted. Jclemens (talk) 15:20, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

The consensus against your invocation of BLPBAN is as clear as anything. I did in fact look over your page too, and have so far not seen a single observer agreeing with your take on BLPBAN, while many have condemned it in strong terms. You are alone against a solid consensus here. I will again formally warn you against any further attempts at invoking a BLP exemption in doing anything futher in this matter, as it will most certainly constitute an abuse of your admin role. Fut.Perf. 15:23, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Protecting an article you've been edit waring on isn't the best of all possible calls. Protecting your preferred version even less so. I understand why you did it, but you really (really) should have gotten an uninvolved admin to do so. Hobit (talk) 18:56, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
I am an uninvolved admin. My first reversion (re-hiding the article content) was itself an administrative action too, just as was my overturning of the logged "article sanction". I am merely continuing to act in the same capacity. Fut.Perf. 22:09, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Opinion

Can we get your opinion regarding minor content dispute here. . My interpretation is that user: Jingiby is being 'liberal', to put it mildly, with his interpretation of the sources , jumping from the notion that there was no distinct Macedonian identity to an idea that somehow 'but Macedonia's location had been forgotten and designated in areas mostly outside the ancient Macedonian kingdom, vanishing completely after the Ottoman conquest". Sounds like uter nonsense. How can a culturally and political central region, at the heart of 3 Empires be 'forgotten'. It reads like OR, POV or simply poor grammer. Slovenski Volk (talk) 23:26, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I haven't had time to review either the sources or the exact context and appropriateness of their use in the article, but on first sight the text you object against at least doesn't sound quite implausible. As far as I know, the term Macedonia was indeed used in geographical senses widely disjoint from the original ancient meaning, and it may well have been the case that it was largely discontinued as a name of any concrete modern territory in common usage at some stage. I'd need more time to figure out if it really makes sense to stress such a claim at that point in the article though. Fut.Perf. 14:11, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Future. Some editors are losing their nerves and make odd edits trying to take revenge? In fact the region of Macedonia really changed its location during Byzantine times and even its name was lost in the early Ottoman Balkans. Jingiby (talk) 06:19, 14 December 2013 (UTC)