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| See also ] of this proposal. | |||
| It remains an open question whether the custom content for Feb 11 would ''literally'' be located at Mainpage or whether it would be stored on a page of its own. | |||
| For one possible example of this '''might''' look like, see the ].<br/> To view lots of items at once, see ] | |||
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| <big>You can help!</big> | |||
| {{To do|inner=<div> | |||
| # Give feedback on proposed "Featured Articles" for Feb 11 | |||
| # Submit an idea for "Featured Articles" for Feb 11 | |||
| # Submit an idea for "Did You Know" for Feb 11 | |||
| # Submit an idea for "Today's Pictures" (for Feb 11) or give feedback on an existing proposal. | |||
| # Submit an idea for "On This Day" (for Feb 11) or give feedback on an existing proposal. | |||
| # Consult the section "Things you can do", below | |||
| </div>}} | |||
| ==Proposed content for on Feb 11 (Stored either at or elsewhere)== | |||
| ===Today's article(s) for Feb 11=== | |||
| {{seealso|Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/requests|Misplaced Pages:Featured articles}} | |||
| Most participants seem to agree that "Today's Article(s)" should be Featured Articles, or articles about to become Featured Articles. | |||
| '''Question:''' Will we have enough time to improve an article to FA status in time for February, or should we just go for one of the already-FA options? | |||
| :FA takes a long time-- we might "discover" a Good Article that is very close to FA, but we can't manufacture a FA in 2-3 weeks. --] (]) 08:25, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ====Featured Articles that have never appeared as "Today's Featured Article"==== | |||
| {{seealso|Misplaced Pages:Featured articles that haven't been on the Main Page}} | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' ''''']''''' -- proposed. Primarily due to its reliance upon the ], which protects against abuse of government authority. — ''']''' (]) 23:47, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ''''']''''' is a ] case in which the Court ruled that ] may not be deprived of their citizenship involuntarily. The U.S. government had attempted to revoke the citizenship of Beys Afroyim, a ]-born man who had voted in an ]i election after having become a ] U.S. citizen, but the Supreme Court decided that Afroyim's right to retain his citizenship was guaranteed by the ] of the ]. In so doing, the Court overruled one of its own ]s, '']'' (1958), in which it had upheld loss of citizenship under similar circumstances less than a decade earlier. | |||
| The ''Afroyim'' decision opened the way for a wider acceptance of ] in United States law. The ]—a series of agreements between the United States and other nations which had sought to limit dual citizenship following naturalization—were eventually abandoned after the ] concluded that ''Afroyim'' and other Supreme Court decisions had rendered them unenforceable. </div> | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''', slavery opponent | |||
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| ''']''' (April 4, 1792 – August 11, 1868) was a member of the ] from Pennsylvania and one of the leaders of the ] faction of the ] during the 1860s. A fierce opponent of slavery and discrimination against African-Americans, Stevens sought to secure their rights during ], in opposition to President ]. | |||
| Stevens was born in rural Vermont, in poverty, and with a ], giving him a limp he kept his entire life. He was elected to the ], where he became a strong advocate of free public education. | |||
| He was elected to Congress in 1848, where he spoke out against the ] which allowed for some of the ] recently gained from Mexico to become slave states. As the debates continued, he stated, "This word 'compromise' when applied to ] and constitutional rights I abhor. We are not asked, but commanded, to compromise away the Constitution." | |||
| Elected to Congress again in 1858, Stevens argued that slavery should not survive the war; he was frustrated by the slowness of President ] to support his position. Stevens came to believe that not only should slavery be abolished, but that African-Americans should be given a stake in the South's future through the confiscation of land from planters to be ]. His plans went too far for the Moderate Republicans, and were not enacted.</div> | |||
| :: Although I just wrote this, I suspect it may be a tad too pointed, but trying to provide lots of options. --] (]) 01:09, 20 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' ''''']''''' -- proposed. Relevance to generalist issues of spying and privacy, etc. — ''']''' (]) 23:49, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' ''''']''''' -- proposed. Plot deals with government overreach. — ''']''' (]) 23:50, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| * ] , potential a bit much | |||
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| ====Featured Articles that have previously appeared as "Today's Featured Article"==== | |||
| ::'''Normal Main Pages do not contain Featured Articles that have previously appeared on the mainpage. Inclusion of a page that has previously appeared is extremely controversial with multiple editors.''' | |||
| ;With Blurbs | |||
| *'''Proposed: ]''' | |||
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| ''''']''''' is an ] ] set and produced in ], ]. Created by writer/producer and former police reporter ] (''pictured''). ''The Wire'' premiered on ], ], with ] airing over the course of six seasons. The plot of the first season centers on the ongoing struggles between police units and drug-dealing gangs on the west side of the city, and is told from both points of view. Subsequent seasons focused on other facets of the city, exploring themes of surveillance and institutional dysfunction. Simon has said that despite its presentation as a crime drama, the show is "really about the American city, and about how we live together. It's about how institutions have an effect on individuals. Whether one is a cop, a longshoreman, a drug dealer, a politician, a judge or a lawyer, all are ultimately compromised and must contend with whatever institution to which they are committed." Despite only receiving average ratings and never winning major television awards, The Wire has been described by many critics and fans as one of the greatest TV dramas of all time. The show is recognized for its realistic portrayal of urban life, its literary ambitions, and its deep exploration of social and political themes. {{TFAFULL|The Wire (TV series)}}</div> | |||
| ::I like this one for a couple reasons. Firstly, it's very neutral and doesn't imply any "position" on surveillance. The title is instantly relevant, and the blurb discusses complex societal issues without simple answers, clear heroes or clear villains. It's not explicitly about the NSA and reminds us that surveillance isn't just limited to one agency. Additionally, it will provide balance, reminding us surveillance can be legitimately used by law enforcement. --] (]) 13:56, 18 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Proposed: ]''' | |||
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| ''''']''''' is a 2007 non-fiction book by ] about ], ], ], and the ]. Lewis discusses key free speech ], including ] opinions in '']'' (1929), '']'' (1964), and '']'' (1971). The book's title is drawn from the dissenting opinion by ] ] ''(pictured)'' in ''United States v. Schwimmer'', who wrote: "if there is any principle of the Constitution that more imperatively calls for attachment than any other, it is the principle of free thought—not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought that we hate." The book was positively received by '']'', '']'', ], two ] members, and '']''. ] criticized the work in '']'' and elaborated on this in ''The Harm in Hate Speech'' (2012). This prompted a critical analysis of both works in ''The New York Review of Books'' by former Supreme Court Justice ]. {{TFAFULL|Freedom for the Thought That We Hate}}</div> | |||
| :This seems promising, so long as it doesn't come across as an endorsement. --] (]) 13:31, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ''']''' is a simple ] for obscuring ] by replacing each ] with the letter thirteen places down the ]. <tt>A</tt> becomes <tt>N<tt>, <tt>B</tt> becomes <tt>O</tt> and so on. The ] is used in ]s as a means of hiding ] ]s, ] solutions, ] and ] ]s and ]s from the casual glance. ROT13 has been described as the "] equivalent of a ] printing the answer to a quiz upside down." ROT13 originated in Usenet Internet discussions in the early ], and has become a '']'' standard. As a Caesar cipher, ROT13 provides no real ] security and is not used for such; in fact it is often used as the canonical example of weak encryption. Because ROT13 scrambles only letters, more complex schemes have been proposed to handle numbers and punctuation, or arbitrary ] data. (''']''')</div> | |||
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| In ], a ''']''' is one of the simplest and most well-known classical ] techniques. It is a type of ] in which each letter in the ] is replaced by a letter some fixed number of positions further down the ]. For example, with a shift of 3, <tt>A</tt> would be replaced by <tt>D<tt>, <tt>B</tt> would become <tt>E</tt>, and so on. The method is named after ], who used it to communicate with his ]s. The encryption step performed by a Caesar cipher is often incorporated as part of more complex schemes, such as the ], and still has modern application in the ] system. As for all single alphabet substitution ciphers, the Caesar cipher is easily broken and in practice offers no communication security. (''']''')</div> | |||
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| ''']''' (1913–94) was the ], serving from 1969 to 1974. He graduated from ] in 1934 and ] in 1937, returning to California to practice law. He served in the ] during ]. Nixon was elected to the ] in ] and to the ] in ]. He served for eight years as vice president, from 1953 to 1961, and waged an unsuccessful presidential campaign in ], narrowly losing to ]. In 1968, ] for president and was ]. He initially escalated the ], but ended US involvement in 1973. Nixon's ] to the People's Republic of China in 1972 opened diplomatic relations between the two nations. Though he presided over ], he scaled back manned space exploration. He was ] in 1972. A series of revelations in the ] cost Nixon much of his political support in his second term, and on August 9, 1974, he resigned as president. In retirement, Nixon's work as an ], authoring several books and undertaking many foreign trips, helped to rehabilitate his public image. {{TFAFULL|Richard Nixon}} | |||
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| ''']''' was the 40th ] and the 38th ]. He was elected House ] in 1963 and served in the House until 1973. When ] resigned, Ford was appointed Vice President of the United States during the height of the ]. Following the resignation of ], Ford ascended to the presidency on ], ]. The Ford administration saw the withdrawal of American forces from ], the execution of the ] and the continuing specter of ] and ]. Faced with an overwhelmingly ] majority in Congress, the administration was hampered in its ability to pass major legislation and Ford's ]es were frequently overridden. After Ford was criticized by many for granting a ] to Nixon, Democrat ] narrowly defeated Ford in the ]. Ford is the only U.S. President never ] to either the Presidency or Vice Presidency. Along with his own Vice President, ], he is one of two people appointed Vice President rather than elected. ''']''' | |||
| </div> | |||
| ;Without blurbs | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' ''''']''''' | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''' | |||
| *: Speech had an NSA joke; If Colbert cancels on a , this might become appropriate --] (]) 01:12, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:: Anti NSA. Too pointed. {{cross}}--] (]) 15:51, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''', activist arrested & imprison for speech | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''' | |||
| :*He gave a speech today, promising changes to the mass surveillance programmes; some critics say it's not enough. Choosing the article about him could be seen as an endorsement. If any actual changes turn out not to be substantial, Misplaced Pages will look like the Nobel committee that awarded the man a peace prize. —] 23:33, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :As nom, I share the worry this could be seen as either implied endorsement or implied dis-endorsement. ---] (]) 21:44, 18 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''' | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''' | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''', impeached and resigned after misuse of surveillance | |||
| :This one seems promising. --] (]) 13:31, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Someone else wrote "impeached and resigned after misuse of surveillance". Choosing this could be perceived as calling for impeachment of the current US president. —] 23:33, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''', Watergate | |||
| ::same comment as for Nixon article —] | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''', abolitionist | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''' a political pamphlet, written by the 18th-century British feminist Mary Wollstonecraft, which attacks aristocracy and advocates republicanism. | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''' investigated German and Bolshevik elements in the United States. It was an early forerunner of the better known House Un-American Activities Committee, | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''' ? | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''' ? | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''' | |||
| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''' | |||
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| *'''Proposal:''' '''''] ''''' | |||
| ====Articles that are not Featured Articles==== | |||
| {{collapse top|title=Doesn't seem to be much support for a non-FA}} | |||
| Not FA. Not enough time to get it to FA. Why create another problem? {{cross}}--] (]) 15:51, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| I concur that it would be extremely difficult to get an article to Featured Quality status given our timetable. {{cross}} ---] (]) 19:01, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| * ], needs to be improved to Featured status, but if that were possible, it would be a relevant topic. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:44, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :* I worry Snowden channels us into an unhelpful discussion about the ethics of whistleblowing. We may have more luck keeping the focus on the issue of surveillance and privacy itself. --] (]) 21:45, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ], though not a FA yet. | |||
| * ] {{icon|UNASSESSED}} unassessed | |||
| * ] {{icon|C}} C-class, former featured article candidate, tagged {{tlx|Globalize/US|date=June 2011}} | |||
| * ] {{icon|C}} C-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|B}} B-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|C}} C-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|START}} start-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|C}} C-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|UNASSESSED}} unassessed | |||
| * ] {{icon|UNASSESSED}} unassessed | |||
| * ] {{icon|B}} B-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|UNASSESSED}} unassessed | |||
| * ] {{icon|START}} start-class, tagged as outdated | |||
| * ] {{icon|START}} start-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|START}} start-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|B}} B-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|START}} start-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|UNASSESSED}} unassessed | |||
| * ] {{icon|START}} start-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|C}} C-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|C}} C-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|UNASSESSED}} unassessed, former featured article candidate | |||
| * ] {{icon|UNASSESSED}} unassessed | |||
| * ] {{icon|C}} C-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|START}} start-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|GA}} | |||
| * ] {{icon|GA}} GA-class | |||
| :These look quite promising. Ultra-relevant and already at GA. Good find!--] (]) 01:08, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Nah-- not enough time. --] (]) 18:52, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ] {{icon|START}} start-class | |||
| * ] {{icon|START}} start-class | |||
| :See also: Merkel NSA to Stasi | |||
| * ] {{icon|C}} C-class | |||
| * ] B-Class. Needs to be improved but a perfect fit for this purpose. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]</span> ] 23:35, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ] {{icon|GA}} GA-class | |||
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| ==="Did You Know" for Feb 11=== | |||
| {{seealso|Misplaced Pages:Did you know}} | |||
| {{expand-section}} | |||
| * ... That the current ] ] falsely testified under oath that the NSA did not collect data on hundreds of millions of Americans. | |||
| ::Unless we doubt the Verifiability of this statement, I feel like some mention of this merits inclusion. Both sides of the aisle have commented on this. --] (]) 14:22, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::This is an essential tidbit, and has not been disputed. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 20:13, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Unfortunately, a tidbit is all this is. It really is quite insignificant when you get down to it. It's one tiny bit of - pointed mind you - trivia related to a falsehood that a guy told in relation to the NSA. Politicians do thousands of those a day. {{cross}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::This politician (for which he has gone unpunished), and was then caught red-handed due the leaks. That does not happen often. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 21:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Disagree that this is trivial, however it's received wide, recent news coverage so we might be telling people something they already know. If we use it, I think it would best be worded differently. The initial wording comes close to accusing a living person of a crime he hasn't been convicted of. —] 01:55, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::"...telling people something they already know" - though all your points are valid, this one is reason enough to drop this candidate. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 02:45, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ... That the Italian magazine '']'' reported that during the ], the NSA targeted Vatican ] as they were choosing the next pope. Among those spied upon was Cardinal Bergoglio, now ]. <ref>http://news.panorama.it/cronaca/urbi-et-orbi/papa-francesco-datagate</ref><ref>http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/europe/188723-report-nsa-spied-on-the-vatican</ref><ref>http://www.businessinsider.com/report-nsa-spied-on-vatican-2013-10</ref><ref>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/10415228/US-spied-on-future-Pope-Francis-during-Vatican-conclave.html</ref> | |||
| :* "Reportedly"? Hmmmm... {{cross}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::* Easily fixed by stating who reported it. {{tick}} ] (]) 23:57, 19 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| The story appeared in ''Panorama'' and they cite unspecified documents released by Wikileaks. The ''Telegraph'' says {{quote|1=According to US State Department cables released by WikiLeaks in March this year, the US embassy to the Holy See drew up a profile of him, describing him as a "wise pastor" who had been praised for his "humility".}} The Vatican responded that they didn't know about any wiretapping and have "no concerns" about it. —] 22:50, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ... That in 1964, government surveillance of ] was used by the FBI in an attempt to blackmail the civil rights leader<ref>http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/03/31/mlk.fbi.conspiracy/</ref> into committing suicide?<ref>{{cite news | |||
| |url=http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/07/fbi-office-break-in-1971-come-forward-documents | |||
| |title=Burglars in 1971 FBI office break-in come forward after 43 years | |||
| |last=Pilkington | |||
| |first=Ed | |||
| |publisher=The Guardian | |||
| |quote=One notorious letter sent by the FBI to Martin Luther King contained materials relating to his extra-marital sexual activity intended to blackmail him into suicide, with a note that said: "King, there is only one thing left for you to do. You know what it is." | |||
| }}</ref> | |||
| :* I like. It's pretty interesting. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::*{{like}} It's also important and illuminating. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 21:34, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ... That the first global wide area network was built beginning in 1981, for the ] surveillance system?<ref name="zdnetduncan">{{cite web|last=Duncan Campbell|title=Echelon: World under watch, an introduction|url=http://www.zdnet.com/echelon-world-under-watch-an-introduction-3002079845/|publisher=]|accessdate=19 December 2013}}</ref> | |||
| :* Nice. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ... That in 1988 a ] employee revealed the ] surveillance network when she "blew the whistle" on interception of a US senator's telephone calls?<ref>{{citation | |||
| |url=http://duncan.gn.apc.org/echelon-dc.htm | |||
| |last=Campbell | |||
| |first=Duncan | |||
| |authorlink=Duncan Campbell (journalist) | |||
| |title=Somebody's Listening | |||
| |newspaper=] | |||
| |date=1988-08-12 | |||
| |archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20130420093650/http://duncan.gn.apc.org/echelon-dc.htm | |||
| |archivedate=2013-04-20 | |||
| |quote=The Congressional officials were first told of the Thurmond interception by a former employee of the Lockheed Space and Missiles Corporation, Margaret Newsham, who now lives in Sunnyvale, California.}}</ref> | |||
| :* Random trivia that assumes people know what ECHELON is... among other things. {{cross}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::"Surveillance network" and the linked article explain what ECHELON is. As for this being trivia, perhaps a change of wording is in order. The American Senate holds a fair bit of power, and ECHELON was being used to specifically collect the telephone calls of a particular senator, ]. There was a congressional investigation, which found that "targeting of U.S. political figures would not occur by accident, but was designed into the system from the start." Yet the Congress didn't shut it down. —] | |||
| * ... That the American telephone company AT&T has a database of telephone call metadata dating back to 1987, and turns data over to law enforcement agencies—without search warrants—through the ]?<ref name=NYT1>{{cite news|last=Shane|first=Scott|title=Drug Agents Use Vast Phone Trove, Eclipsing N.S.A.’s|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/02/us/drug-agents-use-vast-phone-trove-eclipsing-nsas.html|newspaper=]|author2=Colin Moynihan}}</ref><ref name=fox>{{cite web|url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/02/drug-agents-reportedly-have-access-to-bigger-phone-database-than-nsa/ |title=Drug agents reportedly have access to bigger phone database than NSA's |publisher=Fox News |date=2013-09-02 |accessdate=2013-09-04|quote= said that the Hemisphere Project raised 'profound privacy concerns,' }}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/02/dea-program-linked-to-vast-att-database-documents-show/ |title=DEA program linked to vast AT&T database, documents show – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs |publisher=Security.blogs.cnn.com |date= |accessdate=2013-09-04}}</ref> | |||
| ::{{like}} I genuinely didn't know this, and it's important to mention non-govt surveillance. --] (]) 03:09, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{like}} The only drawback would be the US-centricity, but if that can remain balanced, this addition would add vauable context. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 21:34, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| A little pointed (will need tweaking), but the idea is sound. Very nice. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * .... That the ] recognizes ] as a ]. | |||
| * Nice. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ... That in 1955, before Sputnik was launched, the US Air Force ordered the development of a ]?<ref>{{cite book |title= Into the Unknown Together - The DOD, NASA, and Early Spaceflight |last= Erickson |first = Mark |isbn = 1-58566-140-6}}</ref><ref>http://books.google.com/books?id=QDMqAAAAMAAJ&q=%22determine+the+status+of+a+potential+enemy%27s+war-making+capability%22&dq=%22determine+the+status+of+a+potential+enemy%27s+war-making+capability%22&hl=en&sa=X</ref><ref>http://books.google.com/books?id=OgkoAQAAIAAJ&q=%22determine+the+status+of+a+potential+enemy%27s+war-making+capability%22&dq=%22determine+the+status+of+a+potential+enemy%27s+war-making+capability%22&hl=en</ref> | |||
| :* Good. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ... That the famous physicist ], an outspoken supporter of civil rights, was placed under government surveillance?<ref name="einsteinnytimes">{{cite news|title=New Details Emerge From the Einstein Files; How the F.B.I. Tracked His Phone Calls and His Trash|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/07/science/new-details-emerge-einstein-files-fbi-tracked-his-phone-calls-his-trash.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm|publisher='']''|accessdate=September 17, 2013}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|title=FBI campaign against Einstein revealed|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2033324.stm|publisher=]|accessdate=16 January 2014}}</ref> | |||
| :* Get rid of "famous", get rid of "outspoken supporter of civil rights", and then explain why he became a target. But it's okay. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::'''Alternative''': That due to his political views, government surveillance of ] was employed in a campaign to discredit and expel him from the United States<ref>{{cite web|title=FBI campaign against Einstein revealed|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2033324.stm|publisher=]|accessdate=16 January 2014}}</ref><ref name="einsteinnytimes">{{cite news|title=New Details Emerge From the Einstein Files; How the F.B.I. Tracked His Phone Calls and His Trash|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/07/science/new-details-emerge-einstein-files-fbi-tracked-his-phone-calls-his-trash.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm|publisher='']''|accessdate=September 17, 2013}}</ref> | |||
| ::::{{like}} Could even more be illuminating alongside mention of MLK (above) and allegations that MI5 spied on . '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 23:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::The article currently has a link to Einstein's FBI file, but doesn't otherwise contain the words "FBI" or "surveillance" (I searched instead of reading). The surveillance went on for 22 years, from the year he entered the United States until the year he died. Perhaps that could be mentioned. —] 01:44, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Good find. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 09:23, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Rather than having multiple hooks followingt he formula " was placed under surveillance by , may I suggest something like " have all been placed underr serveillance by ". A joint hook.--] (]) 19:46, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::This looks promising. Perhaps creat ] or something as a staging ground. --] (]) 20:38, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::{{like}} The list idea is good. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 23:32, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::POV statement: ''Charlie Chaplin, Eleanor Roosevelt, Einstein, Marilyn Monroe, Martin Luther King, John Lennon and Princess Diana were all under surveillance. Today, ] is under surveillance, and ].'' —] | |||
| :::::::::::Interesting, relate-able, informative. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 02:10, 18 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *... That under the rule of ], the ]n government forged a partnership with Britain and the United States to spy on Libyan dissidents living in the ]?<ref>{{cite web|title=Libya: Gaddafi regime's US-UK spy links revealed|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14774533|publisher=]|accessdate=20 December 2013|date=4 September 2011}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/09/03/libya.west.spies/|title=Documents shed light on CIA, Gadhafi spy ties|first=Ben|last=Wedeman|work=CNN|accessdate=3 September 2011|date=3 September 2011}}</ref> | |||
| :* Ehhh.. I'm not sure about this one. I think there are better options. The use of the word "spy" seems pointed. Do we know why they did this? Was there a valid reason in their eyes? {{cross}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| I suppose that if saying "spy" is out, then a mention of Lockerbie is right out. Both sources do use the word "spy", but "exchange information" or "turn over information" would be accurate. The CNN story says "the Libyans were interested to learn about alleged Islamic radicals involved in anti-Gadhafi activity in Canada, the United States and Europe. The United States and Britain were interested in any detail Libya could provide about al Qaeda." It also says and "Reports of cases of U.S. rendition to Libya have emerged." The BBC story says "...UK intelligence appeared to give Tripoli details of a Libyan dissident who had been freed from jail in Britain." | |||
| Readers in the "Five Eyes" countries may be surprised to learn that their governments would consider secretly turning over information on them to a foreign government. —] | |||
| *...That the Australian and German governments both knew about the ] surveillance program long before ] made details public?<ref>{{cite web|last=Ockenden|first=Will|title=Australia prepared briefing on US global internet spying program PRISM before Snowden revelations|url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-08/australia-prepared-briefing-on-prism-spying-program/5004290|publisher=]|accessdate=October 8, 2013|date=October 8, 2013}}</ref><ref name="spiegelprismbnd">{{cite news|last=Matthias Gebauer|title=Prism in Afghanistan: Conflicting Accounts By German Government|url=http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/a-911952.html|newspaper='']''}}</ref> | |||
| :* I don't like references to the current issue. This seems pointed. {{cross}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *...That in 1974, US President ] resigned following an attempt to wiretap his political opponents. | |||
| :Very lukewarm about this one-- everyone should already know this; but better too many nominees than not enough. --] (]) 13:59, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :* I like. I didn't know about the Watergate scandal til relatively recently. Anyway the topic is sound, though the hook may need a bit of tweaking. {{tick}} | |||
| * That due to increased security measures instituted post-9/11, many ]. | |||
| :* Balancing out the NSA attack-fest. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :* {{tick}} We need something like this for balance. Without this (or something like it) we'd be entirely one-sided. 17:55, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::*AltText : That the US claims that increased security measures, instituted post-9/11, ]. | |||
| :::The article says that there have been unsuccessful plots since September 2001, and says that in 2004 "Security in the United States was put on high alert after a plot ..." but I don't see a statement in the article that "increased security measures" figured in the prevention of attacks. I think that such statements have been made in the press; get it into the article first? —] 18:11, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I understand the intent, but we have to be consistent with facts: NSA spying resulted in at most one foiled terrorist plot. See and and and . If raising awareness of the issue appears to be an attack, it may be a sign that the spying program is faulty, and not a POV issue on our end. Further, this justifies the need for an "awareness day", as untruths and half-truths are being as full-truths: the very antithesis of an encyclopedia. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 21:54, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::The topic is covered in ] in the paragraph that opens with "Regarding the necessity of these NSA programs...." One of the citations contains the "54 attacks" statement. I get a 404 error for the Pro Publica page. —] | |||
| ::::::The link is working for me... but it was only supplemental. Here is . '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 09:01, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::This very fact was discussed on CNN today, once and again (comment by Bergen). '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 02:08, 18 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *... That ], the lead singer of ], was placed under government surveillance due to his to opposition to the ]?<ref>{{cite web|last=ADAM COHEN|title=While Nixon Campaigned, the F.B.I. Watched John Lennon|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/21/opinion/21thu4.html?_r=0|publisher='']''}}</ref> | |||
| *... That ], the longest-serving ], was closely monitored by the FBI due to her liberal political views?<ref>{{cite web|title=Eleanor Roosevelt|url=http://www.history.com/topics/eleanor-roosevelt|publisher=]|accessdate=16 January 2014}}</ref> | |||
| *...That protestors who joined the ] movement were closely watched by the ]?<ref>{{cite news|last=]|title=Exclusive: Homeland Security Kept Tabs on Occupy Wall Street|url=http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/exclusive-homeland-security-kept-tabs-on-occupy-wall-street-20120228|accessdate=5 January 2014|newspaper='']''|date=28 February 2012}}</ref> | |||
| *...That right until months before her death, the actress ] was placed under constant surveillance due to her alleged ties to ]?<ref>{{cite web|title=New data show how closely FBI monitored Marilyn Monroe|url=http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-data-show-how-closely-fbi-monitored-marilyn-monroe/|publisher=]}}</ref> | |||
| *...That right until moments before her death, ]'s phone conversations were routinely intercepted by the NSA?<ref>{{cite web|title=NSA Admits to Spying on Princess Diana|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/dec98/diana12.htm|publisher='']''}}</ref> | |||
| *...That Germany's ] (BND) has a long history of spying on journalists?<ref>{{cite web|title=The World from Berlin: BND Agents 'Knew What They Were Doing'|url=http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/the-world-from-berlin-bnd-agents-knew-what-they-were-doing-a-549765.html|publisher='']''}}</ref> | |||
| *...That Britain's ] spied on the comedian ] as part of a campaign to deport him from the United States?<ref>{{cite web|last=Richard Norton-Taylor|title=MI5 spied on Charlie Chaplin after FBI asked for help to banish him from US|url=http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/feb/17/mi5-spied-on-charlie-chaplin|publisher='']''|date=17 February 2012}}</ref> | |||
| *...That China ] to monitor the Chinese Internet?<ref>{{cite web|title=China employs two million microblog monitors state media say|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-24396957|publisher=]|accessdate=16 January 2014}}</ref> | |||
| :{{like}} We definitely need something like this. --] (]) 04:21, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| fact is in ](]) —] | |||
| *...That in the United States, thousands of surveillance drones are expected to be deployed at major public events such as protest gatherings?<ref name="latimesdrones">{{cite web|last=rian Bennett and Joel Rubin|title=Drones are taking to the skies in the U.S.|url=http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/15/nation/la-na-domestic-drones-20130216|publisher='']''|accessdate=24 September 2013}}</ref> | |||
| ::'''Alternative'''...That in the United States, over 30,000 surveillance drones are expected to be deployed by 2020?<ref>{{cite web|last=MICHAEL KIRKLAND|title=Drones over America|url=http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/02/17/Under-the-US-Supreme-Court-Drones-over-America/UPI-97921361089800/|publisher=United Press International|accessdate=24 September 2013}}</ref> | |||
| *...That ] refers to a ] signed by France to faciliate the transfer of French ] records to foreign governments?<ref name="lemonde1">{{cite web|last=Jacques Follorou|title=Surveillance : la DGSE a transmis des données à la NSA américaine|url=http://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2013/10/30/surveillance-la-dgse-a-transmis-des-donnees-a-la-nsa-americaine_3505266_3210.html|publisher='']''|language=French|accessdate=30 December 2013|date=2013-10-30}}</ref> | |||
| *...NSA surveillance helped identify and convict four San Diego men who sent funds to the ], a militia that conducts terrorism in Somalia.<ref>, ''Democracy Now'' Aug 1 2013. Retrieved Sep 27 2013.</ref><ref>. Southern District of California July 2010 Grand Jury. Retrieved Sept 30 2013.</ref><ref> | |||
| {{cite press release | |||
| |publisher=The Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence | |||
| |date=2013-07-23 | |||
| |url=http://democrats.intelligence.house.gov/press-release/54-attacks-20-countries-thwarted-nsa-collection | |||
| |title=54 Attacks in 20 Countries Thwarted By NSA Collection | |||
| |accessdate=30 Sept 2013 | |||
| |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20131023153822/http://democrats.intelligence.house.gov/press-release/54-attacks-20-countries-thwarted-nsa-collection | |||
| |archivedate=2013-10-23 | |||
| }}</ref> | |||
| :Included because we need balance and we're having a hard time finding other documented successes. --] (]) 07:32, 18 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *...that almost all employees at ], where nazi messages in World War 2 were decrypted, didn't know about the goal of their work? --]<sup>]</sup> 09:39, 18 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Alternative: | |||
| *...that the fictional spy James Bond is ] his creator Ian Fleming encountered, including his own work for the British government in World War 2? --]<sup>]</sup> 09:39, 18 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ====New Page / 5x expanded / or recently GAed==== | |||
| *...that the proposed ], which would undo much of the ], was submitted by Rep. ], author of the Patriot Act? | |||
| ; References (not for use in Mainpage) | |||
| {{reflist}} | |||
| ===Today's Picture(s)=== | |||
| {{seealso|Misplaced Pages:Featured picture criteria}} | |||
| * "It illustrates the subject in a compelling way, making the viewer want to know more." | |||
| * "It might be shocking, impressive, or just highly informative." | |||
| ====Already Featured Pictures==== | |||
| * ] '''Magna Carta''' - the limiting of power to authority figures.--] (]) 15:46, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :* Ehh.. too tangential? Probably. But it does illustrate that absolute power corrupts absolutely. So {{tick}}--] (]) 18:20, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Its political message, that the commoners have rights, should be uncontroversial. —] 23:08, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ] '''Hrant Dink's funeral''' - Hrant Dink "was best known for advocating Turkish-Armenian reconciliation and human and minority rights in Turkey; he was often critical of both Turkey's denial of the Armenian Genocide, and of the Armenian diaspora's campaign for its international recognition. Dink was prosecuted three times for denigrating Turkishness, while receiving numerous death threats from Turkish nationalists".--] (]) 15:46, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :* Seemed like a good idea at the time. {{cross}}--] (]) 18:20, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ] '''President Ford at the pardon of Richard Nixon''' - for the Watergate Scandal etc.--] (]) 15:46, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*Watergate is probably the most famous spy/privacy/etc. story within living memory, save Wikileaks. Very notable event. {{tick}}--] (]) 18:20, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*Of the three FP nominated so far, this one wins. --] (]) | |||
| :*It does come closest to the topic, but it could be seen as a call for a régime change in the US. —] 23:08, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ====Not Featured Pictures==== | |||
| :* Not FPs. Not enough time to get into to FP. Why create another problem? {{cross}}--] (]) 15:51, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :* Consensus is free to judge the '''BEST''' picture(s) for Feb 11, regardless of existing FP status. {{tick}} --] (]) 19:57, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| In response to Coin945's comments about "not enough time", discussion at ] lasts 10 days, so a nomination would have to be made by 1 February. Also ] says that a picture must be used in an article to qualify, and recommends waiting a week after adding it to the article. Some of the suggested pictures are already used in articles; for those that are not, the last day to add them would be 25 January (for a 1 February nomination). There does appear to be enough time for featured picture designation. —] 20:04, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I think we can get an image to FP in time, and I also think that the community might decide to merely change the name of the section to "Today's Picture" if we want to spotlight a free but not-currently-featured picture. (In contrast, our featured article really does need to be a featured article-- FPs are ''subjectively'' better than normal pictures-- but FAs are ''objectively'' better than normal articles. --] (]) 04:45, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::One of the images jumped out at me as a candidate for Featured Picture, so I nominated it. If you '''sincerely''' believe an image should be FP, please nominate it. Please adhere to our guidelines about ]-- do NOT support images for FP just because you support this proposal and always disclose how you found out about the discussion, etc. --] (]) 08:20, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| {| class="wikitable" | |||
| |- | |||
| | ] | |||
| | The ] near ], Germany. It was originally run by the NSA (until 2002) and is currently the largest listening post outside Britain and the United States | |||
| |} | |||
| * | |||
| {| class="wikitable" | |||
| |- | |||
| | ] | |||
| | The ] launched spy satellite ] in December 2013. It received a relatively high level of press coverage due to the mission's choice of logo which depicted "a monstrous octopus with its massive arms wrapped around the world" and the motto "Nothing Is Beyond Our Reach". | |||
| |} | |||
| This was nominated for FP, but looks like it will fail due to the resolution and a request that it be vectorised. Converting it to SVG may be feasible but is beyond my skills. —] 10:04, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I've now found an actual scan of the patch that bumps it up to 900px. --] (]) 14:25, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| {| class="wikitable" | |||
| |- | |||
| |] | |||
| |The ] was established by the ] (DARPA) in January 2002 to bring together several DARPA projects focused on applying ] and information technology to achieve "]". The office's logo featured an ] using a golden light to scan the planet Earth. The logo included the motto ] – ''knowledge is power''. | |||
| |} | |||
| This is low-resolution, which could be a problem at FP Candidates. Asking that it be converted to SVG would be unreasonable, particularly because of the globe in it. We might try the angle that the office has been defunct for over 10 years and this is the best version that has come to light. —] 10:04, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ] logo of the ] | |||
| Doesn't meat the resolution criterion (which asks for at least 1500x1500 pixels). A request that it be vectorised would not be unreasonable. —] 10:04, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ] NSA headquarters at night, <s>official</s> '''NSA-supplied''' photo originally titled "The Mission Never Sleeps" | |||
| * ] <s>official</s>'''MoD-supplied''' photo of GCHQ building | |||
| * ] GCHQ building from the air | |||
| * | |||
| * ] NSA headquarters by day | |||
| * ] "], Sir ] and Brig. ] in Washington, November 1945" | |||
| * ] ] ] station in the ] commune in France | |||
| * series of top secret images with telling commentary by the NSA (]): | |||
| *#] | |||
| *#] | |||
| *#] | |||
| ::As I noted, these are non-free media (the NSA used other people's copyrighted images to make these slides). Hence they don't conform to the featured picture criteria. My thought was to put them in place of the day's featured picture; the "today's featured picture" heading could be changed to indicate that they do not have a featured picture designation. ] would have to be satisfied; some sourced commentary about the slides may suffice. I realise that including non-free content on the main page will be controversial, but found these slides memorable so I feel they are worth consideration nonetheless. —] 20:43, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *] "Yes we scan" protest at ] | |||
| *] Berlin Field Station, defunct ] or NSA listening post on ] hill in Berlin | |||
| *] Berlin Field Station, Quality Image | |||
| ::This is not a Featured Picture, but it's been evaluated as a Quality Image on Commons. —] 17:44, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::*Thankyou Rybec for that clarification. {{tick}}--] (]) 18:16, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::If anyone feels like nominating this for FP, the description should be checked for accuracy first. The site seems to have been run first by the US army then by the NSA. —] 10:04, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *] top secret slide reading "Why are we interested in HTTP? Because nearly everything a typical user does on the Internet uses HTTP" with Misplaced Pages logo, among others | |||
| ==="On This Day" for Feb 11=== | |||
| {{seealso|Misplaced Pages:On This Day}} | |||
| <div style="float:right;margin-left:0.5em;">]</div> | |||
| *'''''] – ] ''(pictured)'', a protest opposing ] ], begins.''''' | |||
| *:Better under "on this day", I think. --] (]) 14:22, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *::Good point, moved. I'm not sure about the standards for "On this day" so feel free to provide an alternate phrasing. <font style="padding:1px 2px;background:#ADE6E1;border:1px solid">]</font><font style="padding:1px 5px;background:black;">]</font> 16:09, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:::OTD includes events from ''previous'' years. Even events from one year ago usually are regarded as ineligible, with the two-year anniversary considered the start of eligibility. —] 22:45, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *::::So should this be moved back to the DYK section? <font style="padding:1px 2px;background:#ADE6E1;border:1px solid">]</font><font style="padding:1px 5px;background:black;">]</font> 23:34, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:::::Yes (with different formatting). —] 01:24, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:::Normally, we would never include "today" in 'On this day'. But if we generate consensus to hold a 'special day', I think we could potentially include "today" in the "On this day" box. Or we can put it in ITN. Or DYK. :) We'll figure it out. --] (]) 00:43, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *::::Including a current event in OTD would essentially break the section. ITN is for current/recent events, but it's doubtful that this one will generate sufficient media coverage to meet that section's criteria (and if it does, we won't know until after the fact). —] 01:24, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:::::I should just chime in to say I'm in a mindset of "there's no judgements in brainstorming"; Which isn't to disparage you-- "behind every great ''writer'' there is an even greater ''editor''" and your feedback is very very helpful. I just want to clarify that I'm taking a shotgun approach to this process, creating the widest possible menu of options for the community to choose from. I have no idea where the wisdom of our community will ultimately fall. At this point, I don't even know which of my own proposals I'd support. --] (]) 14:32, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *: The campaign is not that notable in its own right and we would be giving it too much credt to give it a slot on the main page. In the DYK section, possibly. But ITN or OTD? No. {{cross}}--] (]) 15:51, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''''] – The controversial ] is enacted by the ], allowing warrantless wiretaps of all telephone and Internet traffic that crosses Sweden's borders. | |||
| ::Is this connected to an anniversary of Feb 11? --] (]) 02:12, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::No, the article says it was passed on 18 June. —] | |||
| :* {{strike|Would make more neutral by getting rid of the "controversial" and rewording "warrantless", but it fits with the theme nicely.}} {{Qmark}}--] (]) 15:51, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| : Scratch that. Did not even occur on February 11th. {{cross}}--] (]) 15:51, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''''] – The controversial ] is enacted by the ], allowing warrantless wiretaps of telephone records and e-mails in the United States. | |||
| ::Is this connected to an anniversary of Feb 11? --] (]) 02:12, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::No, it was proposed and passed in October 2001. —] | |||
| Did not occur on February 11th. {{cross}}--] (]) 15:58, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''''] – ] is recognized as supreme head of the ].''''' & '''''] – ] publishes the encyclical ]'''''. | |||
| **They fit with the theme of seperation of church and state.--] (]) 15:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::*Probably not related to the theme quite enough. {{cross}}--] (]) 15:58, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * '''''] (250th anniversary) – Joseph Chénier was born. "His Charles IX was kept back for nearly two years by the censor. Chénier attacked the censorship in three pamphlets, and the commotion aroused by the controversy raised keen interest in the piece." | |||
| *: Censorship.--] (]) 16:15, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:: I do like the idea of the 250th anniversary. And it is a good censorship story. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''''] – The Religious Society of Friends, also known as ], petitions ] for ] of ].''''' & '''''] – ]: ] unanimously passes a resolution guaranteeing noninterference with ] in any state'''''. | |||
| *: Equality.--] (]) 15:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:: Showing that political activism can make change for the better? Ehhh.... not such a good choice in retrospect.. ((cross))--] (]) 15:58, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''''] – First session of ] opens to the public.''''' | |||
| *: I wonder if the ] upholds the same values the country was originally founded upon.--] (]) 15:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:'''''] – To avoid charges of being a "]", the ] resolved "that the Senate doors be opened" to the public.''''' | |||
| *::This one reminds me of the ]. —] 05:44, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *::I feel like this one hits the right tone-- educational and inspirational but not 'pushy'. Elsewhere I'm nominated pointed content and I've nominated cheesy content, but this style is what I think is probably going to work best. --] (]) 08:45, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:::I don't understand the hook (because I'm Australian..?) what's a "star chamber"? Anyways I think the event itself is a sound choice, so {{tick}}--] (]) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:::{{tick}} A sound choice on any Feb 11, and one tied to this year's theme. --17:16, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''''] – ] governor ] "]" for the first time.''''' | |||
| *: Classic political manipulative tactic.--] (]) 15:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *::Abuse of power? Probably too tangential now that I think about it. {{cross}}--] (]) 15:58, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''''] – ] is arrested for lecturing on ].''''' | |||
| *: Freedom of speech.--] (]) 15:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:'''''] – American activist ] is arrested and imprisoned for the "crime" of speaking to promote public education of ].''''' | |||
| *:: I do like this illustration of free speech vs. censorship. Would probably change ''"crime"'' to ''then-crime'' (without the quotation marks). {{tick}}--] (]) 15:58, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *:*'''''AltText: ] – American activist ] is arrested and imprisoned for the then-crime of speaking to promote public education of ].''''' | |||
| *:*:{{tick}} Good nomination that has been improved by Coin945. --] (]) 17:21, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * '''''] – ] ] refuses a clemency appeal for ].''''' | |||
| *: An intriguing espionage-related story.--] (]) 15:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{like}} and it checks out —] | |||
| :::From a 'messaging' point of view, I worry this is off-message. Giving the A-bomb to Stalin isn't really about mass surveillance or privacy rights. --] (]) 03:16, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::ties in with the suggested Einstein DYK; NYT says "In the '50s, he made headlines by appealing for clemency for the Rosenbergs" —] | |||
| :Hmm... nice espionage story, but yeah. Too tangential in retrospect. {{cross}}--] (]) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * '''''] – The CIA's ] was created.'''' | |||
| :*'''''] – The CIA's ] was created with the purpose of conducting clandestine activities within the United States''''' | |||
| :* Nice :) {{tick}}--] (]) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * '''''] – ] begins.''''' | |||
| :*Protesting for equality? I can see the relevance to the theme. I think this could be worded rather nicely, demonstrating that a protest was held by poeple who noticed what they perceived as wrongdoing by authority and wanted to change it. Whether or not they were right is irrelevant, and it is not our place to say what we think. But we can certainly state the facts. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * '''''] – The film ] premieres in the US.''''' | |||
| *:Another to file under 'cheesy'. --] (]) 09:56, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :* Not quite sure what the relevance is. Am I missing something..? {{cross}}--] (]) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :** <groan> This one is very bottom of the barrel. The title alone can be re-interpreted to have meaning in the present context. Unless we are really starved for ideas, it's an {{cross}} --] (]) 18:00, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''''] – 87 countries, including the United States, United Kingdom, and Soviet Union, sign the ] outlawing ]s on the ocean floor in international waters.''''' | |||
| *:In the midst of the ], these countries overcame their egos for the sake of humanity as a whole.--] (]) 15:21, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * Terrible suggestion by me. {{cross}}--] (]) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * '''''] – ]: China lifts a ban on works by ], ] and ].''''' | |||
| *: Censorship.--] (]) 15:21, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *: '''''] – China, lifting an earlier ban, legalized the reading of works by ], ] and ].''''' | |||
| *: I really like this one. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *: I likeeh. {{tick}} --] (]) 04:17, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''''] – ] is released from ] outside ], ] after 27 years as a political prisoner.''''' | |||
| *: Nelson Mandela is a prominent figure in human rights issues.--] (]) 15:21, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *: '''''] – ] is released from ] outside ], ] after 27 years as a political prisoner. Mandela remained on the ] until 2008.''''' | |||
| *: I really like this one too. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Possible connection to spying: when Mandela became president, someone came forward with a claim that the CIA had tipped off the police about his whereabouts, leading to his arrest. —] | |||
| *''''']: The film ] entered the ], winning a Silver Bear award.''''' | |||
| *: Cheesy, but just in case we ever want something lighthearted but very very tangentially related. --] (]) 08:35, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *: Again, o.O? {{cross}}--] (]) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *''''']: Dutch parliamentary historian and constitutional lawyer Frans Jozef Ferdinand Marie Duijnstee is born. | |||
| :*I don't think 100th anniversary is enough. If this were not a themed day, sure. But it doesn't really fit with the theme. {{cross}}--] (]) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ===Featured list(s) for Feb 11=== | |||
| {{seealso|Misplaced Pages:Featured lists}} | |||
| Just in case we decide to include it.--] (]) 14:56, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ====Currently Featured Lists==== | |||
| ], the 6th ''''']''''', was a strong advicator of freedom of speech. In 1722 he said: "In those wretched countries where a man cannot call his tongue his own, he can scarce call anything his own. Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech ... Without freedom of thought there can be no such thing as wisdom, and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech, which is the right of every man ..." | |||
| :*'''Above proposed by ]. | |||
| :* I like this one very much. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:46, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::*So ... but could we have a Featured List instead of the ''Today's Featured Article'' in the Featured Article space? — ''']''' (]) 23:36, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*I also like this once very much, but propose alternate text featuring the oft-quoted "They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --] (]) 01:12, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*'''ALT 1:''' ], the 6th ''''']''''', was a strong advocate of Liberty and of the Freedom of Speech. In 1755, Franklin wrote "They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." This quote was later used as a motto on the title page of a book published by Franklin.' | |||
| :*This is not a featured article, but rather a featured list, which incidentally contains no content whatsoever about Benjamin Franklin aside from listings in a couple tables. I get the idea behind this suggestion, but this isn't a good way to get there IMO. ] (]) 16:55, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Does anyone feel like getting ] to FA? :P--] (]) 17:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::Again, ''''']''''' is not a Featured Article, but a List. Therefore, it cannot appear in the TFA section. — ''']''' (]) 04:50, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :* I think that my original wording was way too rhetorical and i could imagine an american flag waving in the background as i read it aloud. But I still like my idea. It's a great quote. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:34, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ---- | |||
| * Something about the film ] being all about espionage. ''']'''--] (]) 15:34, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :* Very tangentially related. There are much better ideas. {{cross}}--] (]) 16:34, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *''']''' -- proposed. There've been lots of references lately to '']''. — ''']''' (]) 23:44, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :* I really like the idea of talking about Big Brother / 1984. I'll support it here, but really if the topic gets included anywhere it will be a valuable addition IMO. {{tick}}--] (]) 16:34, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * ''']''' (Featured list candidate) | |||
| ====Not currently Featured Lists==== | |||
| *] | |||
| :*Have no time to get it to FA. {{cross}}--] (]) 16:34, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ==Sitenotice for Feb 11== | |||
| Any banner to be featured on every article needs extreme scrutiny from a diverse sampling of our community. Banners may point to the main page, to a special statement about Surveillance Awareness Day, both, or neither. | |||
| ===Proposals=== | |||
| * "Imagine a world without privacy..." ] | |||
| :* Past communications have used the phrasing (First "Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge" and later "Imagine a world without Misplaced Pages"...) --] (]) 21:40, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * "Mass spying is a grave threat to a free and open Internet. Surveillance stifles dissent, empowers governments at the cost of individual liberties, and challenges our basic right to privacy" | |||
| :* Rough draft text from TheDayWeFightBack.org | |||
| :*:Hm, I don't think we can really take a position on those things. Implying that stifling dissent is a bad thing, that individual liberties (beyond those necessary to sustain Misplaced Pages) are a good thing, or that people have a "basic right to privacy", seems to go quite a bit far away from NPOV. --] (]) 07:05, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*::I agree that the banner text will be the more crucial and hardest to nail down, as it will affect the most people. That said, the banner doesn't have to be NPOV-- the whole point of putting it in a banner would be for the community to, however subtly, editorialize. But we have to do it "our way", which is way more low key than DemandProgress's tone. | |||
| :*::So I don't expect we'll be able to just take TheDayWeFightBack's text and paste it onto our banner. We're more educators than we are activists. --] (]) 07:24, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::My first thought is that it might be too many words for a banner. My second is that it over-emphasises the Internet. ], ], ]s, ] and storage of ] are important too. How about "mass surveillance stifles dissent, empowers governments at the cost of individual liberties, and challenges our basic right to privacy"? —] 23:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *''John Q Madeupname'' is reading the Misplaced Pages article on ''potentially embarrassing topic''. ]. | |||
| :* If we do a sitenotice (and I'm not yet convinced that we should) this is my attention getting suggestion. The link would explain that we don't actually track what you are reading, and we don't think that governments should either, blah blah blah. I'm sure we can come up with plenty of different articles which people might not want others to know they are reading for whatever reason (], ], ]...) ] [[User_talk:The wub|<span style="color: #008000"> | |||
| :::Yes, this one is funny but the destination page does need to say that we're just kidding and we haven't changed the privacy policy. —] | |||
| *"] was discontinued by the United States government in 2003. Today, we are bringing it back for a moment, so that we will be totally aware of how ] is affecting all of society. ]"?!"</span>]] 23:34, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| <small>It has three links, two of which go to unassessed articles. The ] article, at roughly 11,500 words, is a bit longer than the maximum recommended size (see ]). Besides that, we'd also offer the TIA page and a third page? Could be too much reading material. —]</small> | |||
| *"Misplaced Pages has chosen February 11 to put mass surveillance in the spotlight. ] | |||
| *"Today, Misplaced Pages is putting mass surveillance in the spotlight. ] | |||
| :Very very neutral, no advocacy, just the facts. ] (]) 03:41, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::This strikes a good balance. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 23:24, 17 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Scratch that, I didn't realize this was open for editorializing. I would go with something more informative. From some questions and comments I've seen, there really is a lack of awareness about this subject. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 00:36, 18 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *The banner shows a map with ] on one side and ] on the other. The Misplaced Pages logo appears over Ashburn, and the NSA logo over Ft. Meade. The words "today, take a look at the listeners" appear (perhaps calling to mind ''quis custodiet ipsos custodes?''). Or, something like that but not animated (easier to make and less annoying). Note, the links I put here aren't supposed to be in the banner itself. —] | |||
| ==Official statement for Feb 11== | |||
| We need a serious, highly-polished statement explaining why we're taking any special action on February 11. In contrast to other content, this statement should be minimally controversial and reflect the widest possible spectrum of points of view. This statement should have the support of Jimmy Wales, our board, and be polished by our foundation staff. | |||
| ===Proposals=== | |||
| * '''Proposal''': "Misplaced Pages's mission is to disseminate ] from all branches of ]. Today, on 11 February 2014, we are placing the spotlight on ] and the ]. | |||
| **(Possible addition - "''This is critically important because a significant portion of writers are self-censoring their work after learning about the recent surveillance disclosures in the news media.''"). | |||
| ::<small></small> | |||
| :::'''Comment''': writers supply the encyclopedia's lifeblood. If one in six are changing their ways due to surveillance, this directly effects Misplaced Pages. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 22:00, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *"The freedom to read and learn what you wish, without being spied upon, is a fundamental human right which is core to everything that we do and everything that we stand for." | |||
| ::A Jimmy Wales quote that may be useful. | |||
| == Reading list == | |||
| ''Please post your interesting links below:'' | |||
| * . <small>(What isn't said here is that anyone not ''identified'' as a ''particular'' American is a foreign intelligence target...)</small> | |||
| * | |||
| * <small>"Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and the other tech titans have had to fight for their lives against their own government."</small> | |||
| * using ] | |||
| ;Specific to US | |||
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| * <small>(What is interesting is that the author explicitly suggests the Chinese solution, namely roughing up offensive posters at the police station. If this is the path the U.S. means to go, perhaps they should pay the PRC to send political advisors...)</small> | |||
| * | |||
| * <small> Early evidence of ] "Among a huge stash of confidential documents the group retrieved were secrets about the FBI’s blanket surveillance of the peace and civil rights movement, the tactics of disinformation and deception the bureau used to silence protesters and even an attempt by agents to have Martin Luther King commit suicide."</small> See also: | |||
| * {{cite book| last = Bamford| first = James| authorlink = | title = ]| series =| year = 1982| publisher = Houghton Mifflin| isbn= 0-14-006748-5}} | |||
| * {{cite book| last = Bamford| first = James| authorlink = | title = ]| series =| year = 2001| publisher = Viking Pr| isbn= 0-14-023116-1}} | |||
| * {{cite book| last = Bamford| first = James| authorlink = | title = ]| series =| date = April 30, 2002| publisher = Anchor| isbn= 0-385-49908-6}} | |||
| * {{cite book| last = Bamford| first = James| authorlink = | title = ]| series =| date = May 10, 2005| publisher = Anchor| isbn= 1-4000-3034-X}} | |||
| * {{cite book| last = Bamford| first = James| aurhorlink = | title = ]| series =| date = September 16, 2008| publisher = Doubleday | isbn= 0-385-52132-4}} | |||
| ;Outside US | |||
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| * (''Espionage: France collaborates with the NSA) | |||
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| ==Implementation options== | |||
| ] for Feb 11 has been created. Please improve it or add to it, especially if you support an option not described within the draft. | |||
| ==General discussion== | |||
| *] ''of any kind''. ]. ] <sup>(''']''')</sup> 22:53, 18 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Things You Can Do == | |||
| '''You don't need Wikidebates, "consensus", or rule changes to take action now to raise public awareness of these issues!''' There are many ways to work within the rules of Misplaced Pages to ensure that we do not disappoint people who want to research the issues involved on February 11: | |||
| * ]'s. Start an article and get it featured. You can even request them to hold an article for February 11. How do you find new articles to start? Just read http://thedaywefightback.org/ and http://thedaywefightback.reddit.com/ ! Write about the bills they mention, the ] (now headed into DYK) and the ]. Read the relevant news links above and look at ''where'' they come from - for example, the PEN report put out by the ] (no, not ]). Our coverage of these issues, like most things, is still more misses than hits, and you can change that. | |||
| * ]s. Join an existing project like ], ]. Or join some defunct ones like ], ], and ]. You can revive them, focus them toward your particular interests, perhaps even merge and relabel them as a unified ] or something. There are a few WikiProjects like ] that are ''extremely'' organized and vocal in imposing their agenda - please don't go ''that'' far, but certainly you can have a voice in ensuring we cover these ideas the best we can, and that relevant sources (such as leaks) are not wrongly excluded from articles. | |||
| * ]s. There's a ] that has had the same Selected Article since ]. Do you suppose it's time for an upgrade? Play with theirs or start ], either way you can have the custom Main Page you're dreaming of, not as some mock-up for debate but as a link you can send out on your favorite social networks and try to get featured on The Day We Fight Back site itself. | |||
| * And of course, above all, don't forget the importance of humdrum ordinary editing to keep our articles up to date and with better detail. We can make a splash on one day or another if we want, but the ''water'' we're using trickles in one edit at a time from ordinary people all over the world, and we should always respect that above all else. | |||
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Surveillance awareness day is a proposal for the English Misplaced Pages to take special steps to promote awareness of global surveillance on February 11, 2014. That date is chosen to coincide with similar actions being taken by organizations such as Mozilla, Reddit, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
If this proposal reaches completion, it will be presented to the entire community for approval, via a watchlist notice or a sitenotice shown to logged-in users.
This proposal attempted to implement the following suggestion:
"A message is most effective when it matches the format of the media. We're an encyclopedia. On Feb 11, I suggest we fill our front page with articles, blurbs and news about mass spying and privacy. That will send a strong message, and help educate people. It's sort of like what we do on April 1, except serious instead of foolish."
See also brainstorming phase of this proposal.