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:Thanks for '''finally''' letting me know what was wrong with the article, you could have just removed that sentence in question and left the rest of my edits intact. For instance I went to the New York Times for the captain's story and you just wholesale reverted that too. I still think it was an extremely brave thing that the Hills did to save the passengers after the cowardly crew fled. ] (]) 03:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC) :Thanks for '''finally''' letting me know what was wrong with the article, you could have just removed that sentence in question and left the rest of my edits intact. For instance I went to the New York Times for the captain's story and you just wholesale reverted that too. I still think it was an extremely brave thing that the Hills did to save the passengers after the cowardly crew fled. ] (]) 03:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

::Please leave the sarcastic remarks. I told you in my edit summary ""My story of the sinking"? No thanks" meaning that Tracy Hills' "My story of the sinking" was not acceptable. Sorry that you didn't get the idea that you cannot use Tracy Hills' website to praise Tracy Hills' actions, let alone my 3RR message on your talk advising you to stop the edit-warring and discuss on talk. The other substantial edit you made was adding {{xt|He justified his actions saying that the "ship was in darkness and the batteries on the crew's walkie-talkies had died, meaning that he had no communications with his crew or with other rescue craft"}} which is unsourced. The existing New York Times reference mentions nothing about your edit. You did not add any other reference to the NYT. What NYT are you talking about? I also see that you restored the unsourced edit. This is continuing the edit-war. I will remove it if you do not provide a source for {{xt|He justified his actions saying that the "ship was in darkness and the batteries on the crew's walkie-talkies had died, meaning that he had no communications with his crew or with other rescue craft"}}, which is not in . ]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 03:54, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hmm: the contents of this article bear an uncanny resemblance to . Does this need to be fixed? Senderspace 22:51, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

While researching the reason for the leak in the sea chest I noticed similar wording on a number of sites. It's hard to know who the origiginal author is. --AussieLegend 03:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

This article is not very informative, it lacks many important details. For example the 'Aftermath' is pointless, it is devoid of any useful information such as the actual fate of the captian.24.201.140.3 00:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


@AussieLegend,I looked at an online simulation on Youtube according to it a corner of the Sea Chest was rusted.

Removed Text

I have noticed this page has been vandalized and I have removed the sentence "Cowardly captain James Mayne fled, leaving women, children, and his own pet rats for dead." from the opening paragraph of this article.Tundrawinds 16:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

According to Time, he left his pet dog and canary aboard to be rescued by one of the entertainers who was left to command the rescue effort. That article, however, states that our illustrious Capt. Avranas departed by helicopter whereas all other sources mention he left by lifeboat (one source even mentions that the Avranas & Crew wasted a second lifeboat to haul luggage). El_C 21:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Jonah

MOSS HILL was also on the MS Achille Lauro when it collided and suffered a huge fire. See CH4 documentary "Why ships sink" 01/04/2012 21:00 82.21.204.60 (talk) 20:43, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Misquote

The Captain actually said "If some people like to stay, they can stay.", vs. the quoted "If some people want to stay, they can stay." ('like' vs 'want') The reference contains this misquote, which is why I didn't edit the change in the article text. I have just listened to the quote twice on TV, and clearly heard the word 'like' and not 'want'. The quote was also translated onscreen as 'like', so there's no doubt about it. As I said, the reference is wrong, and who knows, maybe their source was wrong also. 99.92.102.115 (talk) 06:45, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Slow-motion edit-warring

Brimspark is edit-warring in slow motion (1, 2) adding material from an unreliable source which is a personal website by one of the survivors of the sinking titled "Tracy Hills: My story of the sinking". Example:

Moss and Tracy Hills and four others were recognized for their bravery and valour.[http://www.oceanossinking.com/index.php?page_id=16

Let's get this straight: The website belongs to Tracy Hills and the edit says that Moss and Tracy Hills and four others were recognized for their bravery and valour.. In other words Brimspark's edit uses Tracy Hill's personal website to add praise for Tracy Hill. In addition, other material Brimspark is introducing is unsourced. Let's get serious. I will take this to WP:ANI if this editing behaviour continues. Δρ.Κ.  17:48, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for finally letting me know what was wrong with the article, you could have just removed that sentence in question and left the rest of my edits intact. For instance I went to the New York Times for the captain's story and you just wholesale reverted that too. I still think it was an extremely brave thing that the Hills did to save the passengers after the cowardly crew fled. Brimspark (talk) 03:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Please leave the sarcastic remarks. I told you in my edit summary ""My story of the sinking"? No thanks" meaning that Tracy Hills' "My story of the sinking" was not acceptable. Sorry that you didn't get the idea that you cannot use Tracy Hills' website to praise Tracy Hills' actions, let alone my 3RR message on your talk advising you to stop the edit-warring and discuss on talk. The other substantial edit you made was adding He justified his actions saying that the "ship was in darkness and the batteries on the crew's walkie-talkies had died, meaning that he had no communications with his crew or with other rescue craft" which is unsourced. The existing New York Times reference mentions nothing about your edit. You did not add any other reference to the NYT. What NYT are you talking about? I also see that you restored the unsourced edit. This is continuing the edit-war. I will remove it if you do not provide a source for He justified his actions saying that the "ship was in darkness and the batteries on the crew's walkie-talkies had died, meaning that he had no communications with his crew or with other rescue craft", which is not in the existing NYT reference. Δρ.Κ.  03:54, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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