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Hello, Pacific Coast Highway, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Thanks for the welcome.Pacific Coast Highway 04:30, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

For the record...

I would like to point out that I am a Male. To that, refrain from the "her's" and "she's" please. Thank you. Pacific Coast Highway 01:57, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Appologies, your user page says your name is Kriston. I assumed this was a female name. As long as were on the sujbect of sex pronouns, try not to throw "guy" around too much. You don't know my sex and in the fashion you used it, I interpreted it negatively. --SAUNDERS 18:37, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Deletion Policy

I recommend that you read Misplaced Pages's Deletion Policy. I noticed that you have marked a couple of articles just with "DELETE ASAP". Zzyzx11 04:31, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The articles were COMPLETE NONSENSE. If you want you can check their history.Pacific Coast Highway 04:33, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)

11-car trains

Are these the longest trains on the system, or are they not used on other lines because cars are normally paired, or what? --SPUI (talk) 05:50, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I Believe the Flushing line used to be a BMT line, which had longer cars than the IRT. In turn, to even out the diffrence 11 car trains run on the 7 line. the 7 line had a regular 10 car married pair train when it ran redbirds and a single car set someplace. In order to do this they had two seprate car orders, one for married pairs and one for singles. It is still done today and is practical, because of the R62A. however, that might pose problems for newer cars, as they have been in 5 car married pairs. 11 car trains however can't run on the mainline IRT, because of platform lengths.

In retrospect, the 7 line is the ONLY line in thesystem to run 11 car trains. keep in mind that IRT cars (otherwise known as Division A) are shorter the Division B cars (IND or BMT).

Hope this helps.

Pacific Coast Highway 06:25, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

New York City airport transit service

I have created a link to this from 125th Street. Feel free to write this article; I think it is a good opportunity to write about certain bus lines without danger from VFD, as these routes (at least merged into one article) are clearly notable, as they provide the cheapest service to the airports. One thing that should not be included is a complete listing of stops, though a list of subway stations with transfers is clearly relevant. --SPUI (talk) 00:02, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the insight. Pacific Coast Highway 00:09, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

The M60 does not go to 125th Street and Broadway. It turns south at Amsterdam Avenue to 120th Street, and then takes 120th Street to Broadway, which it uses south to its end at 106th Street. See the M60 schedule (PDF). --SPUI (talk) 00:57, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

M60

I know it ends around West 106th Street. I listed it at the 125th Street Station, because that's the last transfer point from the 1 and 9 before turning off on 125th Street. Pacific Coast Highway 01:03, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

As I said above, it only uses Broadway until 120th Street, where it turns east and heads up Amsterdam Avenue the rest of the way to 125th Street.

Ohh.. Okay. I made an Oops. My Apologies.Pacific Coast Highway 01:17, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

Photos

I see you've been uploading some photos recently. You should tag them with an appropriate copyright tag. If you took them yourself, say so, and tag it with whatever license you want {{GFDL}} is assumed, or you can choose a "freer one" from that page. If you did not take the photos, you need permission from the photographers to release the photos under an appropriate license.

The bus depot symbols are a special case, as they are two-dimensional works of art covered by Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp.. Thus the photographer cannot assert any copyright (except in cases where something else is in the photo, or it's taken at an angle to the wall). The only copyright would lie with the MTA, so these could be tagged {{logo}}. You should probably crop these, and maybe make the outside transparent. --SPUI (talk) 00:39, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll remember that. Pacific Coast Highway 21:28, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

As for the photos you've uploaded - did you take them? --SPUI (talk) 21:32, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

To be honest, No, however, I did credit the original photog with permission. Pacific Coast Highway 21:34, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that's not enough, and the photos will have to be deleted unless you get permission from the photographers to relaese them under an appropriate license. On the other hand, if you find any photos in the MTA news releases, those are OK to use - simply tag it with the following:

{{CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat|.}}

and include the URL of the news release you got it from. --SPUI (talk) 21:49, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Ok, thanks once again. Will a copyright from the person acceptable?Pacific Coast Highway 21:58, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

What do you mean by "a copyright from the person"? --SPUI (talk) 22:33, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Like: (C) 2005 (the person in question) Pacific Coast Highway 22:39, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Er, no, you have to get permission from the copyright owner to release it under a suitable license. --SPUI (talk) 00:14, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

That helped. Thanx. 21:47, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify some points of copyright law: Whenever you see the words (C) 2005 plus the photographer's name, that is a "notice" telling you that the work is copyrighted, so the implication is, don't copy it unless you have permission.

Also, under current copyright law, copyright actually attaches automatically for all original works of authorship fixed in a tangible form of expression. But many artists and writers continue to use the copyright notice (which used to be, but is no longer an absolute prerequisite to enforcement of copyright) so that infringers can't claim they didn't know the work was copyrighted.

The default rule is that a work is copyrighted and that the rights to the work are inherently possessed by the artist (or their employer), unless the artist has clearly made a grant of the work to the public domain, or granted the right to reuse it under some kind of license. That's what those GFDL and Creative Commons license boxes all over Misplaced Pages are for.

One more thing: Copyright infringement is a strict liability tort where good faith is no excuse, so one has to be really careful. --Coolcaesar 07:27, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Image:CXXVI.jpg

Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 09:31, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

The Image however a logo will be replaced with a better version. You may delete the image at your discretion. Pacific Coast Highway 03:21, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

• Can you inform me when you have uploaded the new image and swapped it? I will delete it then. Oh, and I am not a deletionist, merely someone who is sorting out the sad state of image copyright on Misplaced Pages. Cheers. Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 14:10, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

Images and copyright

Thanks for doing that. However, I noticed the image you list off your user page does not have any license or source. Could you please go through the various images you have uploaded and tag them. If you need any help with this, don't hesitate to give me a shout. Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 02:49, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

Creating categories

You create categories the same way that you would create an article or template. The biggest difference is that some new categories do not have much more than a "parent" category or categories, although many categories also include some documentation. For example, Category:Los Angeles Metro Rail Stations would have a parent category in Category:Los Angeles and probably another for train stations.

You can find some more information at Misplaced Pages:Categories and m:Categories. Categories, unfortunately, are one of the least well-documented parts of the Misplaced Pages, so another way to find out how to do things is to look at how other editors have done things. Since you have doing the tram lines in Los Angeles, you might look at how the subways and other commuter lines are handled in New York, for example. Especially look at how the categories have been named, and the relationships between the parent and child categories. I hope that answers your question.

As for your {{LACMTA-stub}}, since one the guidelines for creating stub templates is that there should be around 100 stubs to put into the category, I would suggested using the {{Calif-geo-stub}} instead, because that stub may be deleted. BlankVerse ∅ 11:26, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Actually, {{California-geo-stub}} is replacing {{Calif-geo-stub}} Tedernst 16:04, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Pacific Coast Highway 13:26, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Interested in an L.A.-area Wiki meetup?

It appears as though L.A. has never had a Wiki meetup. Would you be interested in attending such an event? If so, checkout User:Eric Shalov/Wikimeetup.

- Eric 29 June 2005 00:14 (UTC)

Image:MTA Red Line.jpg

• I have reported the image Image:MTA Red Line.jpg, which you uploaded from , to Copyright problems. The website has a very clear policy against using images without approval. see . If you have uploaded and used any other images from the same website, they should also be removed. BlankVerse ∅ 2 July 2005 19:31 (UTC)

Also, the two other photos that you recently uploaded, Image:Western Avenue Subway Station.jpg and Image:Metro Center.jpg, you marked tagged with {{PD}}, as Public domain images, but you provided no provenance for the images, such as the name of the photographer, and the website they are from. BlankVerse ∅ 2 July 2005 20:56 (UTC)

How did you do that?

It's in preferences (at the top) ... you just have to make sure you know the code you want to use. ℬastique▼ 03:01, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Sandbox

Please play nice in the sandbox. -- BMIComp (talk) 21:00, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

U Thant Island

Hey, thanks a lot for the photo. Now it doesn't look like I just made it up :)--Pharos 21:27, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

This template must be substituted. Replace {{Template for discussion ...}} with {{subst:Template for discussion ...}}.

Image:Bed-Stuy.jpg

Thanks...

...for the copyvio catch. It looks like someone took care of it; if that was you, thanks again. If I need to do anything else, let me know. Regards, paul klenk 01:37, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Highway article

Wha...? I just looked at the article again. I posted it on the Copyright problems page on Sept. 12. What was it I didn't do that I was supposed to?

I double checked, and the copyvio is clear. I have now blanked the page, leaving only the vio notice, and asked the violator not to post more copyvios (many of his articles have been copyvios. I have also notified an admin to watch the page and the violator.

paul klenk 03:05, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Wiki format for dates

At Misplaced Pages, each registered user can designate on his preferences how he likes to see dates. Then, if the full dates are enclosed in square brackets in any wiki text, the dates will appear to the user in his preferred form. See Misplaced Pages:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers). Although putting square brackets around dates is not required, it is pretty standard. That would avoid the issue you had at Miami-Dade_Transit. -- DS1953 21:23, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

The reason I re-adjusted the date, because, as stated in the MoS, the local usage should outweigh any opposition (?). Therefore I changed it to American translation. Next time though, I'll add the ]. Pacific Coast Highway 21:26, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

By the way, Kriston, I agree that your format change was appropriate (American style dates should generally be the default style in articles on American subjects). I just wanted to point out the added feature on dates in case you didn't know about it. -- DS1953 21:46, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

City Island (New York)

Hi. I'm just curious about the move of City Island (New York). Why the name change? --RoySmith 02:35, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

You user page

I like kittens too, but I don't live in Brooklyn any more. --RoySmith 04:21, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

"Miami is in America buddy. Therefore we use our time system."

Misplaced Pages is international, and it's no place for provincialism or hostility. B.Wind 02:15, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

This message is regarding the page The Courtship of Stewie's Father. Please refrain from adding nonsense to Misplaced Pages. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. ≈ jossi fresco ≈ t • @ 04:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority

If you are going to add the {{cleanup-date}} tag to the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority, you need to join the discussion on the talk page on what needs to be done to improve it. In my opinion, I think that article has already been greatly improved over the last few days by User:SAUNDERS. If you do not respond, I will delete the cleanup template. 20:43, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

User categorisation

You were listed on the Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians in high school page. As part of the Misplaced Pages:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in high school for instructions. --Cooksey 19:21, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Infobox 2

I hope you are not about to fork this template, but put the logic into the existing one "infobox television" when tested. It will not last long if it is to be a fork. :: Kevinalewis : please contact me on my Talk Page : 12:47, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi thanks for your message. "Forking", my understanding is that this is where people basically take a copy of a template, and change it a little (i.e. to add some extra information) and then give it a new name. So as soon ad blink the template population grows out of control. Copying to create a new template to use as a pattern to a completely ne subject to be used in different article types is ok. Not however copying to add a tweek or two to an existing one. More often than not what should be done is to create a temporary one to trail an amendment to the main template, seek concensus approval in the relevant wiki arena, and if agreed make the modifications to the base template. The most usuall forking is when people just want to add a new field, without relalising that these 'can' be added in a optional way without upsetting existing usage and references to the template. (see. Template:Infobox Book

for how that is achieved in the code of the template.) Does that help? :: Kevinalewis : please contact me on my Talk Page : 08:53, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

"Infobox radioshow"

What we could do with is a companion infobox with the above name for exactly the same usages as the television version. :: Kevinalewis : please contact me on my Talk Page : 12:47, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Studying in London

Hi! Just a follow-up on your question about studying on London (on the Reference Desk) - I went through the UK university system as a foreigner, so leave me a message on my talk page if you have any questions and I'd be happy to try and help. Good luck! — QuantumEleven | (talk) 17:14, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

TV Ratings Icon

I'm not sure what you mean. I didn't agree to anything. I looked at the wikiproject page you mentioned, but I didn't see anything stated about pictures versus text. I stand by my reasons that the text is better than the picture. The image conveys nothing that the text doesn't, and the text is a link to the rating system article. Elwood00 15:36, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Signature

Please could you remove {{time}} from your signature - it puts the time the page was loaded rather than the time your comment was written, which is very confusing. violet/riga (t) 09:03, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Infobox Television

I'm not sure why you're saying "I give up, I'm done" , but I hope my comments weren't taken as a direct criticism of you - I just don't think that the rating should be there. violet/riga (t) 09:03, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Forking a template

I may be wrong but forking a template is taking a copy to make some modification, usually small and then using that in place of the original. This "forks" the life of the template. Most advise concensus agreed modifications to the original. This may envolve temp templates to demonstrate the effect of the change to others, but that's different. :: Kevinalewis : 16:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Image Stuff

Thats ok. The tag I added will mean an admin will come along and remove the image after a while. If you have any questions about image copyrights and stuff let me know. It is important that we get these things right otherwise it creates a lot of work for people later on trying to sort out the mess. There is a wikiproject of people goign through thousands of untagged images trying to figure out what to do with them, most get deleted. --Martyman-(talk) 06:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

US Collaboration of the week

You have voted for Transportation in New York City on WP:USCOTW. It was selected to be this week's winner. You are invited to contribute to improve Transportation in New York City in any way you can. Cmadler 13:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Queensboro Plaza

Well, I had thought about doing that infobox color scheme, but I thought the purple/yellow thing looked kind of corny, if you know what I mean. I guess it works, though. *shrug* —Larry V (talk) 15:36, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Irrelevant, but ...

Seeing as we're having a friendly "dispute" over at WP:NYCS, I thought I'd check out your user page. I see that you're from Brooklyn. May I be so bold as to ask which neighborhood? —Larry V (talk) 04:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

That's cool. I live in Woodside, Queens myself. —Larry V (talk) 02:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar and Truce

Wow, thanks a lot for the Barnstar, I really appreciate it! And sure, truce on the naming thing. No hard feelings, I hope? I'm glad this didn't turn into something like what happened to my friend Zouf: Talk:Luxury vehicles/Archive1 —Larry V (talk) 01:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

June Meetup in New York

Hi, I noticed you on a list of New Yorkers. If you are interested in around we are having a meetup Wikipedians in June. Take a peek at this and please tell any other Wikipedians that you think might be interested in participating about this event. Thanks. Alex756 02:25, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

2011?

In your edit to Talk:London Underground you left the edit summary "(→Full Period - Changed vote, granted this is an international project, let the brits have their words. We'll get em' in 2011. :p)".

I'm confused about just what you think you will "get us" at in 2011? Looking at the 2011 article the only events where the UK and USA will be competing are:

• Cricket World Cup to be held in India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Banglandesh.
• Rugby Union World Cup is scheduled to be held in New Zealand

And I think you seriously need help if you think the USA will do better than England in the former or any of the home nations in the latter! Although there is also

• The 2007 World Indoor Lacrosse Championships will be held in a TBA location.
• The International Olympic Committee is set to meet and decide the location of the 2018 Winter Olympics.

However, the UK is not expected to bid for the 2018 winter games, and I doubt we'll be competing in the Lacrosse championship (I don't even know if we have a national team). Could you perhaps have been meaning 2012? Thryduulf 20:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC) PS I note that you are asking for help because you have 490 pages on your watchlist - I have 2,255 pages on my watchlist here (including this one) and a further 3,895 at Commons. I think you need to get a sense of perspective ;) Thryduulf 20:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:18+

Template:18+ has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. 64.128.179.40 16:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Brown Streak Railroads (GTA)

It's a shame you cannot remember ever doing so, but I assure you you can hijack trains in at least the first two games, if not the third as well. Enter the train, and press the ctrl key. Some references here and here, although on further inspection I fear one may be a copy of the other. Nevertheless, it is quite possible. If you could re-revert the page it would be appreciated, feel free to check it for yourself, GTA is free from Rockstar these days. There's also been some vandalism that needs fixing on the page. 161.74.11.24 10:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Semiprotection

I didn't quite understand what you meant when you added the semiprotection tag to the article. Could you explain to me what you would like me to do when you get a chance? Thanks! --HappyCamper 02:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Playstation 9

Yep, and I realized that right after I did it. That's why I removed it and put it in for full afd vote thing long before you sent me that message. (but I'm not trying to be mean in this message) WIKIPEEDIO 01:05, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Trivia

Facts don't go on Misplaced Pages because they're interesting. They go on Misplaced Pages because they're notable. "Real picture of Calvin Collidge", "LOL THIS USES SAME FONT AS OTHER THING", and "LOL POP CULTURE REFERENCE IN SINGLE EPISODE" is not notable or encyclopedic. ' 03:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Terrorist classification

I don't see why this is so "controversial" on Zarqawi's page. Your edit was right-on. Keep up the good work. --FairNBalanced 03:19, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject NYCS/Help

Hey, how about that I.M. Rich character? =) — Larry V (talk) 21:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello my favorite chump, I just wanted to let you know that you are a disgraceful Informative snitch and it is no wonder why you are such a chump. I can't wait until the "event" :smiles: happens, if if does... Oh yeah, if you want to snitch on me for this edit, then do so, though that would only make you look like a little chump that puts himself into situations he can't handle like a real man. I Am Ri¢h!

Help Me listed on your page

I see the helpme tag on your user page. What kind of help do you want? I am here to help. --No1lakersfan 00:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)