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MicahMN | Talk 19:47, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

UKCOTW: Demographics of the United Kingdom

Just to let you know, an article you've voted for, has became this week's UKCOTW: Demographics of the United Kingdom. Come and help out! :D -- Joolz 14:17, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Image:Libraryspiral.jpg

Zzuzz, Thank for your work on copyright issues on images. However, I'd like to point out a couple things about current CSD policy. You tagged the image as deletable due to copyright violation. While this does correctly fit CSD Criteria A8, CSD criteria for images works slightly differently. Image CSD 5 states "Copyrighted images uploaded without permission of the copyright holder, or under a license which does not permit commercial use, which have not been used in any article for more than seven days (so-called "orphaned fair use images"). Reasonable exceptions may be made for images uploaded for an upcoming article.". The image in question was uploaded today, which meant that the image would not qualify under this criteria until the 24th. The appropriate tag in this case would be {{nosource}}, which would call for the image to be deleted after 7 days, if copyright status is not resolved. Thank you again for your work on image processing.

Further, thank you for mentioning on User:Randomskywalker's talk page that copyrighted works are not allowed. Please don't forget to sign your posts on talk pages, you can do so by typing four tildes, "~~~~", which will automatically add your name and date. Thanks again for your contributions, and keep up the good work! Best regards, Ëvilphoenix 05:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying that. I misread the CSD. zzuuzz 23:19, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

How to create an image

Hello ZzuuzZ. It's me, Abyab, again. But can you just give me a guide to create an image. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Abyab (talk • contribs) .

Noname1

eu acho tudo maravilhoso ebom tudo bem eu não vou estou cansadoBold text —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.13.18.206 (talk • contribs) .

This translates from Portugese to English as: I find all wonderful ebom all good I I do not go I am tired zzuuzz 23:05, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Peer review article on Irish people?

The additions and editions made on this page even within recent weeks - especily photos - has vastly improved it, to the better I think. Would you support it being submitted for a peer review, and help tidy it up/add some more? Fergananim 14:06, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I've noticed you recently edited the Irish population of Ireland to say "Ireland-born". I don't agree with this number being used here because it ignores the number of foreign born ethnic Irish who have immigrated back to Ireland. If it is possible to find the number of those as well as people of Irish descent living in the UK, not just Ireland born, please let me know otherwise I will research the numbers myself. Thanks, Epf 04:36, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Travel Insurance Section

Hi, I began by creating the Travel Insurance section a while ago and noticed that a few links I added have been removed by you.. why? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by B2bhandshake (talk • contribs) .

Hi. Thanks for your work on the travel insurance section. I made this edit because the links appeared to have little relevant content, and/or seemed to be placed in the article for only commercial purposes. I see on your talk page (User_talk:B2bhandshake) that you have been previously notified about this activity. Perhaps you should read WP:SPAM and Misplaced Pages:External links#What should not be linked to. -- zzuuzz 12:52, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

ANPR

Um, do you think you could leave my 'opinion' alone? The technology can be used for the purposes I have listed. That's a fact. Now, instead of giving people a line of bullshit about the positives it can be used for, it might be helpful to give the negatives, like using that technology to enslave people. I'd say that's important. It can be used for that, that's fact, not opinion. Now, as a research article, I would think if you're going to give nothing but positives, it's not a god damn research article. We're suddenly going to suppress possible realities because 'it's an opinion'? If it was a history on bombs, you would support only telling that it's been used for mining operations, and suppress the fact it blows people apart wouldn't ya....now leave my 'opinion' alone, because the possibility it could be used as enslavement technology is beyond opinion, that is fact. Hitler gave the concentration camp jews tattoos, all a part of the primitive surveillance they had at that time. Things changed, we're into new hi-tech digital tattooing now. Now leave my shit alone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.233.156.251 (talk • contribs) .

Hi, thanks for 'your shit'. As Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, we prefer encyclopaedic entries, and not opinions which start with 'in the opinion of this editor...'. If you can provide some verifiable sources to any balance out any POV you perceive to be in the article, please do so in an encyclopaedic way. Thanks -- zzuuzz 20:10, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Instead of reverting

You reverted Demographics of Islam without addressing any of the points I raised on the talk page. Insisting that we can't have any figures unless we have a figure for Shi'a (even if there are only 50, 100, 1000, whatever) is simply not sensible. However, if we round off the figures AND strengthen the provisos and caveats, I think the article would be defensible.

It might also be useful to point out that whereas Christian churches can in many cases COUNT their members, as they are bureaucracies with records, there are no such records involved in Islam. We have to go by bureaucratic estimates and self-reports on census forms. Zora 11:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

replied on your talk page -- zzuuzz 13:14, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Uf the CIA World Factbook says that (just to make up a case) the population of a country is 72% Roman Catholic, 23% various Protestant, and and 3% Jewish, there's no reason to believe that there's some huge population of Hindus that the Factbook is covering up. If it says that the population of Algeria is 99% Sunni Muslim (I just looked this up), then there's no reason to suspect those figures.

That's why I suggested rounding off the figures, so that it's clear that they're exact only to the nearest (whatever) and that groups with less than that (whatever) are going to appear nonexistent. That's why we explicitly have that caveat about the Shi'a being undercounted -- if there are minorities in every country that are too small to appear in the "by country" statistics, overall they might add up to another percentage point. Zora 17:55, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Peter Ogilvy

See Talk:Peter Ogilvy. 66.167.136.6 12:36, 21 March 2006 (UTC).

Twilight-Bark.com confusion

How can I clarify Twilight-Bark's copyright issues... being the Webmaster of the above site, please let me know what I have to do. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mrblogs (talk • contribs) .

Misplaced Pages

I like wikipedia, and i do want to stay as long as possible. Thanks for trying to help me. Anyway, the time limit for moving pages is 3 days —This unsigned comment was added by Abyab (talk • contribs) .

Moving Pages

There is a time limit, it is 3 days —This unsigned comment was added by Abyab (talk • contribs) .

Not Self Reference

These categories are accounting designations for education, they should be left alone, so editors at wikipedia can join them. It is very common to include a related article in a category using the |* to bring it to the top of the +cat Cordially SirIsaacBrock 01:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Leeds

Please refrain from removing content from Misplaced Pages, as you did to Leeds. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Tim 15:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. Please read the guidelines at WP:EL to understand why I removed all those superfluous external links - something I mentioned in my edit summary. I've trimmed the links again, and I've also left you a note about WP:AGF which I'd encourage you to read. -- zzuuzz 15:30, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I have read WP:EL and I agree with your recent re-trimming. The first one was far too extreme, leaving very few external links. If it makes you happier I will avoid the word vandalism next time someone is too severe with a 'pruning' and leave a different message for them, instead of the official template. --Tim 18:42, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Tourism reverts

Yeah, Sorry about that, what happened is that a user added a bit on nonsense to the article, and while I was working on reverting it, another user reverted it, meaning that I reverted to a version prior to the previous revert. I reverted back - everything should be in order now. Sfacets 01:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Advertising

Hi

I going to edit some of the articles I have been looking at relating to divorce. However we run the UK's biggest website dealing with divorce (see google natural listings) and I was suprised that there were no links to any UK based websites in the external links section. There has to be a balance surely or else what is the point of having external links? Our website contains page after page of free information about all aspects of divorce from the legislation, to procedure to the emotional side, all free. Can you reinstate the links please as it is a very niche subject? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.58.83.172 (talk • contribs) .

Hi. The point of external links is generally to extend this free encyclopaedia. However, we encourage content instead of links - if there is any relevant content please add it to the article without advertising your site. I couldn't really see much relevant content on your site. There are guidelines about external links which you should read before editing - links added to promote a site which exists primarily to sell goods or services are in the section links to normally avoid. So, in respect of the links - thanks but no thanks. Feel free to add content though. -- zzuuzz 14:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Reference to welding training program?

Why can't I reference a online university dedicated to welding training, how is it spam? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Toolingu (talk • contribs) .

It was not a reference - but an advert. Misplaced Pages is not the place for advertising. Thanks. -- zzuuzz 13:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Jack Dreyfus

May I ask you interest in Jack Dreyfus? Hooiemajoris 09:53, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I actually have no interest at all in Jack Dreyfus. As with any other article I would like to see it improved in any way possible. -- zzuuzz 13:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Card Magic link

Don't you ever get tired of removing my link (Card Magic). If that's what you want to do, then why don't you delete links in all pages. Let's see if you can do that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.81.175.25 (talk • contribs) 12:03, 8 May 2006.

Please stop attempting to promote your site. Your link will continue to be reverted because it is inappropriate. It contains a very objectionable amount of AdSense ads, and very little content. Please either sort the site out, or stop spamming the link. Preferably both. Thanks. -- zzuuzz 13:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

WHY?

Why does my site always gets removed. Look at Optical Illusions. There are many external links there and there's even a blogspot domain but yet not removed. Why? Explain.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.167.26.55 (talk • contribs) .

I explained above. See WP:EL for more information. Thanks. -- zzuuzz 12:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip on Optical illusion. I went ahead and cleaned up this article's external link section. Monkeyman 13:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Market Research

This is not a soliciation for recruits, it is an accurate page with real links to not only this article but other industry bodies and information on Market Research. I'm not going to argue with you about this. I have contributed a great deal to this article and further information is found on this link. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Donut44 (talk • contribs) .

It's nothing but a solicitation for recruits - there is no relevant content at all. Please stop trying to promote your site here. Really, see WP:EL for more information. Thanks. -- zzuuzz 09:10, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Abyab

Thanks for the advice of using 4 tidles, i find it quite useful. --Abyab 17:16, 11 May 2006 (UTC)Abyab

How do you rotate images? --Abyab 17:19, 11 May 2006 (UTC)Abyab

Hi Abyab. I don't know of any method of rotating images on Misplaced Pages. As you know I have been wrong before so you may want to check for yourself, by starting at the images page. You may be able to rotate them offline in a photo editor, but check the copyright status first. -- zzuuzz 16:44, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Z!

I'm not sure if your welcome to Misplaced Pages was an auto-gen message, but thanks all the same.

Especially the tip about the 4x~ for my signature.. I wondered if I was even allowed to add them!

Dom0803 00:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Dom - no problem. See the messages for yourself ;-) -- zzuuzz 01:07, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

that's not true

You probably get a lot of spam so it's easy to dimiss a site. However, internetization.com is still being developed but is already valueable. You may think that is a little private site, but that's how a lot of big public sites start off.

True I only put it online a couple of days ago, and it hasn't even been indexed yet. But I feel that it will be a useful and informative tool for many people in the future. It also encourages community input (there's a wiki spaces part) and shows the trend of how activities are constantly being moved online and the number of things we can't do onlie is diminishing.

So remove it again if you choose, but I'm betting a lot of people would have liked to see the comprehensive and ever-changing listing.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.105.39.160 (talk • contribs) .

Italy

Thanks for reverting Italy from strange ethnic insults. "Bandes de Pedes" appears to be the Spanish equvalent of "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" or more simply "bends over backwards." Thanks: --V. Joe 20:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

ANPR

Hi Zzuuzz,

I have included the company Alpha Vision Design as they manufacture a new 'breed' of Smart ANPR camera that may educate the readers. That is why the link was added.

In relation to commercial companies, as an academic I agree. However, if commercial links are going to added to the bottom, there is no reason why Alpha Vision Design, a leading ANPR company whose sales exceed the listed companies should be excluded.

If the high moral ground is to be taken all the links to commercial companies should be taken out not just Alpha Vision Designs.

All the best, Niall

Hi Niall / Ndorr,

There appears to be some consensus on that page that commercial links can be included (and there is nothing specifically against commercial links at the relevant guideline). However, the point of external links is to provide further information for the readers (they are even labelled as such in the Automatic number plate recognition article). Clearly in many cases, some of the larger commercial companies hold more extensive and authoritative information about the technology on their websites than can be included here. However I could not see that the link you inserted provided this additional information. The link appeared to have been inserted only to promote the company - and this is not what the links are for. I'd encourage you to study the external links guidelines and spam policies further - inserting links to your own company is especially frowned upon. Please understand this is not about the size of the companies or the profit they make, but the size of the information they offer in relation to what can be included in Misplaced Pages articles. -- zzuuzz 16:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

How did you gain editorial control at wikipedia?

Hi,

I recently was censored by you and I don't mind. I was just goofin around to see what could be done over here.

I won't do it again. BUT, I'm now curious as to how someone gets editorial powers here at Misplaced Pages? Is there a process you can share with me?

I'm a writer and I have lots to say about democracy in America. There is none right now, but there could be if we only voted on the Internet and used this technology to have Real VOTING for real issues as we do in California and 22 other states.

So, I'm looking for ways to get attention on this concept. Would you like to help your country evolve?

Mike Mathiesen www.votingontheinternet.com 831-420-0107 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Votingontheinternet (talk • contribs) .

Hi Mike. We are all editors here - have a look at the Introduction. There are a number of Policies and guidelines which guide editing - I think WP:SPAM and WP:NOT are probably most relevant here. Basically, Misplaced Pages is not the place for advertising. I hope you have lots to add, but remember this is an encyclopaedia - you should only add verifiable information from reliable sources which conforms to a neutral point of view. There is also a policy against original research. I suggest you have a look at the article, Electronic voting. -- zzuuzz 21:40, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Social status

No, you were correct in removing it. I had begun the template as "social and legal status" but realised "social status" as it is now, is about the common use of the term, rather than in regard to designations within stratification or social class - which I decided were irrelevant to the topic anyway. Thanks -Ste|vertigo 17:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Banks

Sorry I was trying to find the MS word article I had done :(. Once I find it can I go into do it again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.129.23.153 (talk • contribs) .

Copyright Images

I will add pictures of my cousins for the Asian people and Eurasian (mixed ancestry) pages if pictures on these pages must not be copyrighted. All but Thuy's pic is copyrighted, so please explain to all other users adding pics to the Asian people page Misplaced Pages's policy on pictures.--Dark Tichondrias 02:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Tilde?

Hi You write "Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (Grendlegrutch 17:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC))" Well, I would, if I could work out how to type just one tilde (never mind four of the little squigglies) on an AZERTY keyboard. I guess I'll just have to do it the old-fashioned way, and remain, yours faithfully, Grufflechump

Asian people Wikipedians on Wiki articles

There are pictures of otherwise unknown people as examples in other Misplaced Pages pages. I want to see the policy that states exemplarary pictures should not be displayed on appropriate articles if they are pictures of non-famous Asian Americans/East Asian Americans/Japanese Americans like myself.--Dark Tichondrias 22:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

It is covered in the guidelines at WP:VAIN, probably more importantly the picture of a really low quality. -- zzuuzz 00:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Message from vandal

Stop sending me messages please or i will have to report you.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Markcarter (talk • contribs) .

That was the first and last message I will be sending you. -- zzuuzz 11:40, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Quick Vandalism Response

Hey

Try an online admin, e.g. User:TigerShark. That should speed things up.

Cheers -- Chris Lester 12:24, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

WHY I ERASED DA VINCI CODE

It is all a sin. Sin has no place on Misplaced Pages. God dont lilke it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.53.175.127 (talk • contribs) .

Sin has every place on Misplaced Pages, if there's a reliable source for it. -- zzuuzz 22:18, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Look buddy I dont want to be you when you go to hell. Da Vinci Code is sin. Why do you want to upset God. I think you better start going to church.

Thank you for your opinion. -- zzuuzz 22:21, 25 June 2006 (UTC)