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As per the discussion ], merging of the category was proposed. So after merging, the '''Category:Legislative Assembly elections in India''' shouldn't have been deleted, instead it would have been better to ] the category to ]. ] what is your opinion regarding that? ] (]) 15:51, 2 May 2014 (UTC) As per the discussion ], merging of the category was proposed. So after merging, the '''Category:Legislative Assembly elections in India''' shouldn't have been deleted, instead it would have been better to ] the category to ]. ] what is your opinion regarding that? ] (]) 15:51, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
:Ah, I did forget to do that, didn't I? Thanks for the catch - category redirect made. - ] <sub><font color="maroon">]</font></sub> 21:45, 2 May 2014 (UTC) :Ah, I did forget to do that, didn't I? Thanks for the catch - category redirect made. - ] <sub><font color="maroon">]</font></sub> 21:45, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

== Repeated request: redact your abusive PA ==

Your post:<blockquote>Answering Ent (and adding it on here because, well, nowhere else is appropriate): After looking things over and consdering it, my choice of words in the original issue was admittedly quite poor. Accusing somebody of narcissism ''is'' a personal attack, however, given the situation, actions, and overall mess that was going on at the time, it was not an ''actionable'' "NPA" - it was provoked, and the editor had not previously been warned, which I should have been clearer about at the time. For my lack of clarity, I apologise, and I also apologise for allowing IHTS' goading to keep me from assessing it further and clarifying what I meant sooner. (And, as I said before, it changes nothing about the actions that would have taken place.) For that, I administer a self-trouting, and resolve to speak clearer and triple-check my words before clicking 'submit' when the heat:light ratio is increasing. - ] <sub><font color="maroon">]</font></sub> 13:35, 2 May 2014 (UTC)</blockquote>

My reply:<blockquote>What dishonest manipulation, ]. Here I clearly asked you to redact your PA:<blockquote>So should User:The Bushranger redact what was equivalent to the same PA when he stated at my user Talk that your PA wasn't a PA but rather "calling a spade a spade". Ihardlythinkso (talk) 06:53, 13 April 2014 (UTC)</blockquote>Here was your reply:<blockquote>Let's be very clear here: there will be no redaction, as there was no personal attack to be reinforced. Everybody has told you it isn't a personal attack. The fact that you have shopped your complaint to (at least) four admins and gotten "two threats, one insult, and one nothing" should indicate that the problem is not the 'personal attack' you are claiming. There comes a point where your refusal to listen to what everyone is telling you and continuing to insist they're all wrong and you're right becomes an indication that you are not capable of being part of a collegial and constructive editing environment. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:20, 13 April 2014 (UTC)</blockquote> Also, you say he PA was "provoked". Where's the provoking diff? There were no exchanges between users any time recent prior to the AN. And I handled myself professionally at that ANI up the point of the PA. You blame the victim by saying I provoked that PA. Where's any recent diff prior to the PA that you say provoked it?? ] (]) 06:36, 3 May 2014 (UTC)</blockquote></blockquote>

Are you reversing your position that the PA was not a PA? If so, you made what is the same PA against me on my user Talk, as I have told you several times, and as I have asked you more than once to redact. So if you are reversing your view, why haven't you redacted (and apologized)??? ] (]) 06:57, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

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I was on your user talk page typing a message just as you added your apology/comment at the ANI. I think that was a really big step to take, and I applaud you for your initiative as it so happens. I may be speaking out of turn, but what I would propose is that you shouldn't feel a need to justify or attempt to justify why it is not an actionable PA. Similarly, to give the best opportunity for the user to let go of his deep grievance about your actions back then, it may also be worth if you avoided blaming his upset reaction for not assessing it further and clarifying sooner. What would remain would be a simple acceptance, apology and note about the mess at the time which you were possibly partially swept up in, and I expect that would be more effective. I think it would help you avoid remaining the subject of this grievance, and if the user is going to be able to contribute positively here, it would allow him to go back to doing that (to the extent possible, provided this IBAN business does not keep causing the problems that it has started to). These are only my personal thoughts and suggestions; I hope they are constructive and you can draw something positive from them, but you are in no way obliged to follow them, especially if you do not want to or disagree. Ncmvocalist (talk) 13:59, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I think, now that I've said it, 'retracting' part of it wouldn't be the best thing to do, but I do appreciate your thoughts. - The Bushranger One ping only 14:18, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Morgan Shepherd

Hello Bushranger. I recently added missing results of the 2000 and 2001 season to Morgan Shepherd's Nationwide Series results table. unfortunately I have no info of any team he drove for. Also in the Nationwide table itself there are a lot of team names missing. Perhaps you know for wich teams he drove? Jahn1234567890 (talk) 14:28, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

I'll take a look. - The Bushranger One ping only 14:51, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
I've been meaning to ask, but where do you get your info for the team names? RR only lists the owner. NFLisAwesome 16:55, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Some of it is from the old NASCAR Preview and Press Guides that I have laying around, and also poking around Jayski's archive turns up the goods. But often it's through digging through Google - for instance, tracking down Norseman Racing for Kevin Lepage in the 1986 Busch Series took about 20 minutes of fiddling with driver name-owner name-series combinations before I finally hit paydirt. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:50, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Merging of Category Category:State Assembly elections in India

Hi,

As per the discussion here, merging of the category was proposed. So after merging, the Category:Legislative Assembly elections in India shouldn't have been deleted, instead it would have been better to redirect the category to Category:State Assembly elections in India. Shyamsunder what is your opinion regarding that? Logical1004 (talk) 15:51, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I did forget to do that, didn't I? Thanks for the catch - category redirect made. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:45, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Repeated request: redact your abusive PA

Your post:

Answering Ent (and adding it on here because, well, nowhere else is appropriate): After looking things over and consdering it, my choice of words in the original issue was admittedly quite poor. Accusing somebody of narcissism is a personal attack, however, given the situation, actions, and overall mess that was going on at the time, it was not an actionable "NPA" - it was provoked, and the editor had not previously been warned, which I should have been clearer about at the time. For my lack of clarity, I apologise, and I also apologise for allowing IHTS' goading to keep me from assessing it further and clarifying what I meant sooner. (And, as I said before, it changes nothing about the actions that would have taken place.) For that, I administer a self-trouting, and resolve to speak clearer and triple-check my words before clicking 'submit' when the heat:light ratio is increasing. - The Bushranger One ping only 13:35, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

My reply:

What dishonest manipulation, User:The Bushranger. Here I clearly asked you to redact your PA:

So should User:The Bushranger redact what was equivalent to the same PA when he stated at my user Talk that your PA wasn't a PA but rather "calling a spade a spade". Ihardlythinkso (talk) 06:53, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Here was your reply:

Let's be very clear here: there will be no redaction, as there was no personal attack to be reinforced. Everybody has told you it isn't a personal attack. The fact that you have shopped your complaint to (at least) four admins and gotten "two threats, one insult, and one nothing" should indicate that the problem is not the 'personal attack' you are claiming. There comes a point where your refusal to listen to what everyone is telling you and continuing to insist they're all wrong and you're right becomes an indication that you are not capable of being part of a collegial and constructive editing environment. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:20, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Also, you say he PA was "provoked". Where's the provoking diff? There were no exchanges between users any time recent prior to the AN. And I handled myself professionally at that ANI up the point of the PA. You blame the victim by saying I provoked that PA. Where's any recent diff prior to the PA that you say provoked it?? Ihardlythinkso (talk) 06:36, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Are you reversing your position that the PA was not a PA? If so, you made what is the same PA against me on my user Talk, as I have told you several times, and as I have asked you more than once to redact. So if you are reversing your view, why haven't you redacted (and apologized)??? Ihardlythinkso (talk) 06:57, 3 May 2014 (UTC)