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I have interacted with Keysanger for several years, and the interaction between Chelios and Keysanger has indeed been suspicious. Perhaps what initially prevented me from thinking Chelios was a puppet were his initial contributions to ]. Nonetheless, after a few edits, Chelios drifted to areas related to Chile-Peru relations with the sole purpose of supporting Keysanger. Since then Chelios has been pretty much a ].
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What was most revealing is the fact both Keysanger and Chelios not only "retired" at the same time (both blanking their user pages), but that they also returned to editing Misplaced Pages at the same time.
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Based on the history, it seems that there is either a sock or ] relationship going on here.--] ] 14:46, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


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Keysanger

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06 May 2014

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Suspected sockpuppets


I originally prepared this case in November 2013, I decided against filing when Keysanger blanked his page and appeared to retire . Chelios' contributions followed a similar pattern, stopping at the end of last year.

On 21 April Keysanger began editing again, followed shortly after by Chelios123. Chelios started of with a revert of material on Chile–Peru football rivalry which was one of the reasons I very nearly filed the original report.

User:Keysanger has been keen to remove all references to orders of a Repaso from War of the Pacific for years see . (This is the Spanish equivalent to a No quarter order. There has been a long standing consensus to include such material on the basis of a wealth of sources. When Keysanger brought the subject up yet again, User:Chelios123 appeared as a new editor and began to take his side in the content dispute.

In addition, User:Keysanger regularly refers to the topic ban imposed on User:MarshalN20, User:Chelios123 also referred to it to a 3RR posting and in a post to User:Sandstein (this lead to a contested blocked based on a weak association with the topic ban that was subsequently over-turned). In the recent dispute on Chile–Peru football rivalry, Chelios has been edit warring back the mention of the War of the Pacific that was the tenuous link that led to the contested block.

Disclosure I have been involved and tried to mediate the content dispute back in 2009. Talk:War of the Pacific/Archive 9#Neutral Comment and Observation when I edited under my real name. I also consider both User:Keysanger and User:MarshalN20 to be wiki friends and have tried to mediate between both in the past. As a friend of both, it has been difficult for me to bring this to SPI and I honestly hope I'm wrong. However, per WP:DUCK it seems likely and I can't in good conscience continue to ignore it. Especially as there seems to be a pattern of baiting around Marshal's topic ban. WCMemail 11:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

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I have interacted with Keysanger for several years, and the interaction between Chelios and Keysanger has indeed been suspicious. Perhaps what initially prevented me from thinking Chelios was a puppet were his initial contributions to 9/11 humor. Nonetheless, after a few edits, Chelios drifted to areas related to Chile-Peru relations with the sole purpose of supporting Keysanger. Since then Chelios has been pretty much a WP:SPA.
What was most revealing is the fact both Keysanger and Chelios not only "retired" at the same time (both blanking their user pages), but that they also returned to editing Misplaced Pages at the same time.
Based on the history, it seems that there is either a sock or meat relationship going on here.--MarshalN20 14:46, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

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