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:Here's today's wrapup, Historian. You have 20 SPA edits 11:30-21:26 today. 11 of them are frantic ]ing of 6 people, all perceptible as being on the same !side. 3 are a 3RR that almost went over the line except Black Kite saved you by full-protecting the article again (1 of the 3 accuses me of being banned). 1 requests rollback for yourself without even an understanding of what is required or why it's not given to editors who want to use it against particular other editors. The other 5 are content edits on talk that all make sweeping anti-BDB assumptions aka original research. I'm sorry to report that you are not contributing positively to the encyclopedia. This is the level-2 OR warning, and it applies to sweeping OR in talk as well:
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This day appears typical of every day you've been here. I will grant that you made one change: you seem to have started inserting footnotes in your talk, which is good, but that happens in the same paragraphs as the sweeping OR, so let's work on that next, please. Maybe you can help me understand, how is it that you believe you are contributing positively to the project? ] (]) 06:50, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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Please take care with your editing on Banc De Binary. I have reverted your edits, which appeared to consist of a fair amount of original research with a decidedly non-neutral tone about the history and nature of the bank. There is already a "regulatory issues" section in the article. This should suffice to record the issues that the bank is experiencing. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 13:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

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Banc de Binary

You're right back where you started, with unsourced allegations and synthesis. Please confine yourself to cited facts. Pinkbeast (talk) 15:52, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

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BDBJack (talk) 18:59, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

May 2014

Information icon Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Banc De Binary. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:05, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Welcome Historian

I noticed that we are both interested in the BDB article and lots of accusations have gone around. It looks like you are established as a WP:SPA and I'm sure you've read that and hope you are seeking to comply. You also have accumulated a few negative notices and I wanted to affirm the other commenters that it's essential to keep up with what Misplaced Pages policies are.

There are lots of suspicions. If I can speak without offending you, the fact is that I came here assuming that my choice of contributions would lead to beliefs that I am connected with a key player; and I presume you would have considered the same assumption about yourself. But there's an easy way to handle this with reductio ad absurdam. Even if, for the sake of argument toward absurdity, we were both royally paid editors, it would be in our interests to come to agreement about the protected article rather than to keep up with poor sourcing and poor Misplaced Pages citizenry. And even if we were the most neutral editors in the world, the same conclusion would be even more true. So I hope you will have a chance to comment and work with me on the article text during the protected period. Thanks. Okteriel (talk) 13:56, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Also, the right place for your questions like "Is there anything that can be done about 'cash for editing' users like CorporateM and Okteriel, the latter of which left a weird and half-threatening message on my talk?" is this page, not the article page. That's a pretty obvious one. Instead of doing something you perceive as half-threatening, what I'll do is use the templates, surrounded by explanation. Basically, those who template you are saying they're pretty confident you're straying from Wiki policy and they are concerned you will be disciplined if you keep going, so the threat is not from the individual but from the Community, which works as a hivemind, to get to the right decision sooner or later. For instance, if you're assuming that I'm a paid editor, that's original research; if you're judging my message as half-threatening, that's uncivil discourse. If you're going to accuse an IP who says he's Oren Laurent of being a criminal on the article talkpage, as you did last October, that's a pretty severe BLP violation and might merit a level-3 warning and of course a reversion. But here's what a level-1 OR looks like: Information icon Welcome to Misplaced Pages. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Then it's me talking again after the boilerplate "Thank you". I will probably give an evidence link when I use a template, and explain it briefly, such as by saying "assumption of which the user has no source evidence is the definition of OR, even if it's on talk". I'll be happy to assist the community in continuing to measure your progress via praise, and templates if necessary. Now, the answer to your question is, what do you want done with us? Also, the answer to your assumption is in my userspace. Feel free to continue discussion there, thanks. Okteriel (talk) 20:04, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

CorporateM

If you have evidence that CM is being paid, please post it at WP:COI/N. The appearance of is probably not sufficient. I would avoid making unsubstantiated claims. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 16:53, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

BTW: if you have RS for Banc De Binary's issues, might be a good idea to add them. Jim1138 (talk) 16:59, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

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Here's today's wrapup, Historian. You have 20 SPA edits 11:30-21:26 today. 11 of them are frantic WP:CANVASSing of 6 people, all perceptible as being on the same !side. 3 are a 3RR that almost went over the line except Black Kite saved you by full-protecting the article again (1 of the 3 accuses me of being banned). 1 requests rollback for yourself without even an understanding of what is required or why it's not given to editors who want to use it against particular other editors. The other 5 are content edits on talk that all make sweeping anti-BDB assumptions aka original research. I'm sorry to report that you are not contributing positively to the encyclopedia. This is the level-2 OR warning, and it applies to sweeping OR in talk as well:

Information icon Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you.

This day appears typical of every day you've been here. I will grant that you made one change: you seem to have started inserting footnotes in your talk, which is good, but that happens in the same paragraphs as the sweeping OR, so let's work on that next, please. Maybe you can help me understand, how is it that you believe you are contributing positively to the project? Okteriel (talk) 06:50, 9 June 2014 (UTC)