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| *'''Oppose merge''', for reasons noted by Cyclopia above. However, checking the paddlefish article in its present form, it is clear that LarryMorseDCOhio is right and a large precentage of the info is specific to the American species (not the extinct or the Chinese). Either this info should be moved to the American paddlefish article, or it should be modifed to better cover the family perspective. There can still be shorter sections specific to the various species in the family article, but in its present form it approaches ]. ] (]) 11:37, 9 June 2014 (UTC) | *'''Oppose merge''', for reasons noted by Cyclopia above. However, checking the paddlefish article in its present form, it is clear that LarryMorseDCOhio is right and a large precentage of the info is specific to the American species (not the extinct or the Chinese). Either this info should be moved to the American paddlefish article, or it should be modifed to better cover the family perspective. There can still be shorter sections specific to the various species in the family article, but in its present form it approaches ]. ] (]) 11:37, 9 June 2014 (UTC) | ||
| ::Agreed. There is a need for refocusing the article, but not for merging.--]] 12:55, 9 June 2014 (UTC) | ::Agreed. There is a need for refocusing the article, but not for merging.--]] 12:55, 9 June 2014 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Oppose merge''', as always in biology. A genus warrants its own page, separate from the species that it contains, unless there is only one species in the genus. ] (]) 13:48, 9 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Photos and footage of criminal arrests for the llegal poaching of paddlefish, and much more. == | == Photos and footage of criminal arrests for the llegal poaching of paddlefish, and much more. == | ||
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Grammar Cleanup
Would someone who is familiar with Paddlefish, preferrably the author, please tidy the grammar in the Paddlefish entry. There are sentences that need altering, but they are ambiguous and so I don't want to alter them at the risk of altering them in the wrong way.all lies paddle fish are estined
Some of the sentences requiring attention include,
"Paddlefish are also extremely oily if you mount them they have been known to leak out an oily substance"
"One other reason for the decreased numbers is over fishing. During the last century, paddlefish and sturgeon have stimulated the world stock trades because with their eggs (roe), called caviar."
"This feature is predominant of the fish."
Sgoyeau 23:53, 14 December 2006 (UTC) The Card Shark (talk) 18:47, 29 June 2010 (UTC)ALSO PADDLEFISH ARE NOT CATFISH THEY ARE DIFFERENT. I HAVE CAUGHT BOTH OF THEM.
Metrication
Simply. To comply with standards, and as a non US article, this should be in metric. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.243.3 (talk) 21:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Paddlefish
Hi Androstachys. Can you please cite the information you added to paddlefish and fish ladder concerning the influence of metal in concrete ladders? What you say sounds plausible, and there are references on the web to paddlefish having difficulties negotiating ladders. But I cannot find a source concerning metal in concrete.. --Epipelagic (talk) 10:22, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Epipelagic, The information was from a National Geographic documentary on American paddlefish, featuring Zeb Hogan. Androstachys (talk) 13:09, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
'Paddlefish' vs. 'American Paddlefish'
Most of this article deals with the American species, rather than paddlefish generally. Someone more familiar with the subject might consider moving pertinent text (and references) to the latter, much shorter article, leaving only a brief summary in the present article. A disambiguation for "Paddlefish" in the sense of "American Paddlefish" (rather than the overview) might also be added. LarryMorseDCOhio (talk) 06:21, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- I would appreciate input regarding the potential to merge these two articles. What we have now are 3 different articles on paddlefish which can be very confusing to readers. All three articles are little more than stubs. Paddlefish, American Paddlefish, and Chinese Paddlefish. I agree with LarryMorseDCOhio in that the general article could be merged with the American species. AtsmeWills☯ talk 02:31, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose merge. Paddlefish should talk about Polyodontidae in general, including extinct species. Individual species (living or not) should be covered by their own articles. Two different things. --cyclopia 10:55, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose merge, for reasons noted by Cyclopia above. However, checking the paddlefish article in its present form, it is clear that LarryMorseDCOhio is right and a large precentage of the info is specific to the American species (not the extinct or the Chinese). Either this info should be moved to the American paddlefish article, or it should be modifed to better cover the family perspective. There can still be shorter sections specific to the various species in the family article, but in its present form it approaches WP:CFORK. 62.107.220.107 (talk) 11:37, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- Agreed. There is a need for refocusing the article, but not for merging.--cyclopia 12:55, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose merge, as always in biology. A genus warrants its own page, separate from the species that it contains, unless there is only one species in the genus. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:48, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Photos and footage of criminal arrests for the llegal poaching of paddlefish, and much more.
If the editors overseeing this article think it would be useful, I can provide a link to a video segment showing actual paddlefish caviar, criminal arrests, and interviews with FWS special agents and Missouri state agents who participated in the much talked about covert operation that took place in Missouri back in the 80s. The sting operation was an historic event because 23 people were arrested, charged & successfully prosecuted in state court in Missouri, while 6 were arrested on felony charges at the federal level for interstate trafficking of wildlife. They were convicted, heavily fined and sentenced to time in a federal peneteniary. I can also make photographs available and help expand upon the paddlefish article in general, but my participation would be considered a COI, so I'm posting this information for editors to consider. I also need to mention there is a comprehensive one-hour documentary about paddlefish available for viewing at YouTube. The documentary is a valid resource produced in cooperation with State and Federal resource agencies, and contains rare underwater footage of paddlefish in the wild, interviews with State and Federal fish biologists, several of whom participated in the writing of "the books and research papers" that were the initial references for some of the Wiki references, including L.K. Graham, D.L. Scarnecchia, and Clifton Stone. The documentary also shows artificial propagation of paddlefish, C-section surgery, hatchery conditions, snagging, a demonstration of how poachers made caviar from paddlefish roe, etc. I await your response. Atsme (talk) 21:44, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
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