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Recreation of Joey Rainbow

I've spoken to Cirt, the deleter of said article three years earlier and I have been working on it in my userspace for a while and feel it is ready to go as I now have several sources with a large development section and he has no objection but did advise me to consult a few wikiprojects before proceeding. Is anyone opposed to this? Conquistador2k6Talk to me, Dammit!

Proposed deletion of Maggie Barnes (Dallas)

The article Maggie Barnes (Dallas) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

WP:N - no mention of notability; nonnotable secondary TV soap opera character

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Fair City rating

I think Fair City should be upgraded from Start class to B-class.Tails3333 (talk) 20:02, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Lee Baldwin

This article consists of only plot background. There is not enough real-world information about the topic. I'm planning to move it to Lee Baldwin (General Hospital) because of Lee Baldwin (ice hockey), but I'm uncertain about notability of this character. --George Ho (talk) 20:03, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Unless article can be expanded upon, I say redirect it to General Hospital characters. livelikemusic 20:11, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Child actors and their inclusion in the infobox of a soap character

Stemming from the discussion at Talk:Theresa Donovan, there is some discussion on whether child actors should automatically be included in the information box of soap characters. Do you feel, as a collective project, that they should be allowed based on that fact they were cast alone, or that they shouldn't unless their role with the character was part of notability as a fictional character. Discuss! I.E.: Good Article Steffy Forrester omits the portrayal of child actors, given most-recognized portrayer Jacqueline MacInnes Wood and her over-whelming reception in her portrayal of Steffy. Same argument is being used for Theresa and her portrayer, Jen Lilley, as the role was never centrically used until Lilly's casting into the role. livelikemusic 00:46, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I think child actors should be included. They did portray the role, and if the character is notable enough for their own page, their portrayal has contributed to that. But, then again, most child actors are not given many story lines and the characters do not affect plot that much. With that being said, there are Young Artist Awards and other recognition that the actors could get for the role, making their portrayals also noteworthy. At the very least, there should be some indication that other actors have had the role, not just the current portrayer, even if that actor is the most recognizable. Including "and child actors" or something like that under the portrayer field would be enough. But it is simply incorrect to list one actor as the portrayer of a role that was played by many actors.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:24, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

As wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, I see absolutely no problem with the infoboxes being thorough, complete and accurate. I'm with @Caringtype1 on this, I feel all known portrayals of a character should be listed. Being thorough, complete and accurate certainly does no harm, it only does good. Cebr1979 (talk) 21:08, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

To clarify, I'm assuming this debate is specific to infoboxes as a means to declutter them, and that the infant actors etc. would still be noted in the body of the article? I agree that primarily non-speaking portrayers are not as notable as regular performers, but I don't know that you can justify omitting them from infoboxes based on notability. In the case of Kevin Buchanan, a character who was originally portrayed by many, many actors, the infobox covers the last 3 adults that played him and the 9 (!!) previous actors are noted within the article. I personally would have a couple more (adult) actors listed, but obviously 12 performers would be a bit ridiculous for an infobox.

To that end, I can see how the infobox for Theresa Donovan is a bit unwieldy having all of the kids listed, and none of them apparently had an actual storyline before the current portrayer. I'm not familiar with Steffy Forrester but if it is a similar situation then it makes sense that only the one adult portrayer is noted in the infobox. Still, In the case of a character that may have only been portrayed by one child or set of twins before a "notable" portrayal, there's probably no harm in noting the name(s) in the infobox. Like I said, I don't know that we can "enforce" this based on notability. — TAnthony 16:38, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

To clarify, it's not just the infobox livelikemusic wants them omitted from. They're not currently mentioned in the body of the article and livelikemusic wants it to stay that way as well as having them removed from the infobox. In essence, livelikemusic wants them to not exist. Please see her comments on the Theresa Donovan talk page.Cebr1979 (talk) 18:23, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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