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April 2014

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  Atama頭 21:26, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Yagmurlukorfez (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I wasn't violeted three revert rule. I just twice reverted. it doesn't mean to an edit war. here and here diffs: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Celts&action=history (talk) 21:38, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

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You are not blocked for violating WP:3RR. You are blocked for edit warring. --jpgordon 00:00, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Just an FYI, even though you removed warnings from your talk page here we can still read them in your page history (anyone can). As you can see here, Tiptoety stated, "Consider this your only chance. Any further battleground behavior/edit warring will result in a block." This block is following up on that warning. At the article Celts, you'd posted on the talk page asking about their connection or status in regards to Indo-European peoples. If you'd waited for a reply (which came pretty quickly) and discussed the issue on the talk page instead of reinserting the "fact" tag you wouldn't be blocked. Your block will end soon, just remember this after your block is lifted. -- Atama頭 13:13, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

I didn't hide anything, If you imply this. I remember tiptoety's warning don't worry but I think that(celts article) wasn't an "edit war." That user (whom reported me)fallowing me and when I edit something he quicly revert. Clearly, he is obsessed with me and keep attacking. I think we've got a serious problem than "blocking." You must be warn him too. Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 13:36, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

You're allowed to remove warnings, our policy at WP:BLANKING allows for it. But your unblock request above showed surprise that you were blocked despite another administrator warning you that this exact situation would happen if you continued to edit-war or otherwise engaged in battleground behavior (reverting other editors instead of discussing matters with them). To me, that meant that either you didn't take the time to read the warning before deleting it, or you deleted it in the hope that other people would not know that the warning occurred. In either case I thought it would explain the block better to remind you that we (all editors, not just administrators) can look at your page history here even if you delete information, and that this block didn't come out of nowhere. If you had no history of this behavior in the recent past I would have just given you a warning, but you engaged in this behavior knowing that it could lead to a block.

Just to clarify, an edit war as defined at the policy consists of "a series of back-and-forth reverts", which is exactly what happened there. Even two reverts is an edit war (if an editor makes a single revert on a page it's almost never considered an edit war). I myself try to restrict myself to a single revert on a page against a particular editor, or on a particular topic, and I try to never revert more than once in a 24 hour period on a page unless it falls under these exemptions. If I ever get in a situation where I feel I have to revert someone more than once I instead try to get them to talk about the reason behind our differences, and that usually works. (When it doesn't work is when you may need to ask someone else to help you out.)

I considered just giving a warning to both yourself and Zyma since it takes two to edit war. I checked to see if your edit-warring history was only a conflict with Zyma, but I see you also warring with an IP on this article. I will, however, remind Zyma not to engage in edit-wars on the ANI board, because it is worth reminding them that it is unacceptable behavior. -- Atama頭 15:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Now you're targeting me atama. That IP blamed to me a "Turkish Nationalist" (I suppose this is a "personel attack"?) as you can see. And that because of he/she reverted my edit. He is might be a troll or sockpuppet, who knows?... I'am not keep going this nonsense argue. Blocking is fine, but you must be neutral and civil. Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 16:07, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

I always try to be neutral, I did after all warn Zyma on the ANI board (it only seemed fair to). If I've been uncivil, please show me where my language was personally insulting, hyperbolic, or aggressive. I always try to treat people with respect and to deal with issue in a calm fashion and if I haven't done that I'd like to know where I made a mistake. I'm not going to assume that the IP was a troll or sockpuppet, I always assume the best of other editors until given reason to suspect otherwise and you should do the same, it's a fundamental principle of Misplaced Pages. -- Atama頭 17:08, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Selam

aynen öyle:) sen yapabilirtmisin, numarasini yazmaya calisiyorum! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehmeett21 (talk • contribs) 13:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

turkic people kaynakta yaziyor 112 numarali onu karasuk culturnun yanina yazmak istiyorum tsk ederim:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehmeett21 (talk • contribs) 13:55, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

saol kardes sence kaynak iyimidi?:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehmeett21 (talk • contribs) 14:04, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Selam :)

Misplaced Pages'da yeni User olduğunu görüyorum. Sana karşı kabalık yapıldığını gördüm izlediğim sayfaların birinde. Herhangi user yorumlarda kabalık yaptığında burda şikayet ede bilirsin. Böylece kaba Userlardan kurtulmuş oluruz. Bests, Ali-al-Bakuvi (talk) 21:34, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

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May 2013

Your recent editing history at Talk:Kyrgyz people shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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You have made the same revert 6 times, and then made another set of reverts 1 time ~~

It's must be misunderstanding. I didn't start an edit war and I did not edit any article. It's about vandalism of article's talk page. Please next time you check the issue before warninng. Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 14:00, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

You have reverted 6 times the last time I checked. Your reverts are not subject to the WP:3RR exemptions in WP:3RRNO as they are not vandalism. See also User_talk:JoeSperrazza#3RR_exemptions. Further reverts of this nature and you will be blocked. JoeSperrazza (talk) 14:46, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Really I sick of this childish actions. Go and see that page again. Now another IP deleting my comments. Why don't you do something!? Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 14:51, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

I see that one of the IPs is now blocked. Do be careful not to get blocked again, if you have problems there are ways to deal with them that won't get you blocked even if it means you have to be patient and wait. Dougweller (talk) 14:53, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Finally you're interesting this issue dougweller. I'am really happy. Could you delete this racist and insulted comments on the talk page? Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 15:00, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

I got rid of them. They are inappropriate and not helpful. -- Atama頭 16:48, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Apologies to User:Yagmurlukorfez for not looking at the diffs more closely. It was pointed out to me that they edits you reverted, do indeed meet the requirements of WP:3RRNO. I have striken through my earlier comments in this regard. As User:Dougweller, there are better ways for you to respond in the future rather than just reverting multiple times. Go to WP:ANI as you did, but without all the reverts, would likely be less aggravating to you and get better results. Best regards, JoeSperrazza (talk) 14:14, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Hoşgeldin!

Iyi günler Yagmurlukorfez, gördüğüm gibi birkaç haftadır viki'de meşgulsun. Umarım fars şovenistlerden veya türk karşıtı olan batılı şahıslardan hiç de şaşırmamışsındır. Maalesef başta fars şovenistleri olmak üzere çok yaygındır buralarda. Bende ayni şeyi yaşadım, ama çok şükür ki şimdiye kadar başarılarına ulaşamadılar. Nedenlerinden biri güvenilir ve sağlam kaynaklar kullanmamdır. Seninle konuşmak istediğim esas konu aslında fars şovenistlerin bir sürü kukla hesapları kullanmasıdır. Şu ana kadar bazılarını deşifre ettim. Fakat bu konuyu seninle artik gizli bir şekilde muamele etmek istiyorum. Herhangi bir hususi iletişim imkanin varsa çok sevinirim. Saygılarımla. --Hirabutor (talk) 11:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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Selam

Selam murat. Turkic peoples sayfasında "etimoloji" kısmına etnonimin ilk defa 1. yüzyılda Yunan kaynaklarında "Turcae" olarak geçtiğini eklemişsin de, o sözcüğün Türkleri tanımlamak için kullanıldığı kesin değil. Yani bu konuda evrensel bir karar yok bildiğim kadarıyla.Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 19:29, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Merhaba, kaynaklar bunun için var. Ben kaynaklardan dördünü inceledim. En benzer haiyle Lyrcae diye bir kavim var ancak iki kaynakta ve aynı zamanda Tyrcae'ye dönüşmesi muhtemel gelmedi. Nitekim hayvancılıkla uğraşan insanlar tanımı da Türkleri andırıyor. Nişanyan da böyle tanımlamış. Eğer Tyrcae- Turcae- Tuki gibi tanımlardan bahsetmezsek anlayış eksik kalır diye düşünüyorum. --Kafkasmurat (talk) 20:05, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Çoğu internette var, aratırsanız bulursunuz. Ayrıca Pliny ve Mela'nın kitapları da kamu malı olarak Google Books'tan göz atabilirsiniz. Çıkarılacağını düşünüyorsanız biz çıkaralım, insanlar Türkçe kaynakları anlamayabilirler. --Kafkasmurat (talk) 20:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Bence kalsın. Pliny ve Mela'da ilgili halkların yer aldığını biliyorum. Sadece bu halkların Türkler olup olmadığı konusunda akademik alanda bir fikir birliği yok bildiğim kadarıyla. Kaynaklarda yer alıp almadığını o yüzden sordum. Öbür türlü özgün araştırmaya girer. Bu konuya değinmiş bildiğim birkaç Türkçe kaynak var sadece. Onun dışında rastlamadım. Daha öncede benzeri ifade yer alıyordu maddede ama biri çıkarmış. Şimdilik dursun. İtiraz gelirse o zaman değerlendiririz.Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 20:32, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Tartışmaya açık. Ama en azından belirtilmeli, çıkarılması da yanlış olmuş. İyi çalışmalar.--Kafkasmurat (talk) 20:36, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Edit warring Karasuk culture

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Please be particularly aware, Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:21, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Well hello Kansas. Is this a joke? Are you enjoying? If you don't have a reasonable explanation, I'll delete this nonsense pseudo-warning. There is no edit-warring by me.Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 21:34, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

You can delete almost anything from your talk page, but that shows you have read it and should have read the linked policy. Thus you can be blocked without warning for any future edit warring. Dougweller (talk) 13:57, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

You're waiting for right time, aren't you ? :) Seems wikipedia has been corrupted by some "admin"s. Realy shame.Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 14:40, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

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fixed, thanks.Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 11:12, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

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Merhaba

Hocam IRC üzerinden konuşalım mı?Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 20:42, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Geç gördüm, yoksunuz. --Kafkasmurat (talk) 21:16, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

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