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| As this is my talk page I will describe for you what I think. | |||
| This is only for information, it does not imply your misconduct or anyone else's misconduct in specific. | |||
| While requiring prominent publishers, real academic credentials and neutral point of view everywhere else on the wiki, the word Pseudoscience was elevated into the equivalent of a scientific discipline and original research in skeptic weblogs to be superior to most peer reviewed scientific journals. Civility was nowhere to be found, in fact, the ] (U-]) wrote their own guidelines and granted it self a notice board to forum shop and stage their attacks on lone editors. Nasty language became the rule rather than the exception. Remaining sensible guidelines were rendered inapplicable by skeptic consensus. The 100 skeptics vs 1 editor setting was not enough however, there also had to be Discretionary Sanctions. This was still not enough, the Committee also had to make content decisions for the ]. | |||
| A ruling asserted Cold Fusion to be part of the scope of Misplaced Pages's home brew Pseudoscience area of expertise. | |||
| There, in 2006, before he left, one intelligent editor : | |||
| ::It is time to stop these concerted violations of Misplaced Pages policy by people who are plainly motivated by a combination of ignorance, bias, and bigotry. They cannot be justified by the need for "quality control of science articles", or by diversionary accusations of "wikishilling", or by other blame-the-victims shenanigans, and if nothing is done about them, they will simply grow worse. In fact, failing to address them would in all likelihood be interpreted by the violators themselves as encouragement to redouble their destructive efforts. I hope and trust that the Arbitration Committee understands this and will act in the best interests of the Misplaced Pages Project. | |||
| The Committee OR ruling that cold fusion was pseudoscience was outside the scope of the Committee, it even violated the guidelines for sourcing science articles. | |||
| Before the ] article was delisted from the featured articles list for not being skeptical enough it was already an unbearable skeptic troll fest, however, besides from editors fighting the fight '''they did bother to also document the conflict'''. | |||
| As predicted, today there is no room for such Neutral coverage. Such guidelines simply do not apply to team skeptic. | |||
| Indeed the skeptics took the lack of action as a sign that anything goes. Thousands of articles have been molested using rhetoric like "Replications are primary sources" or even deleted with a blunt "DELETE FRINGE!" Courtesy links became spam, primary sources could no longer be used ''carefully'', in stead the skeptic weblog was the only tolerable type of source. | |||
| Unsurprisingly, editors left in droves! No one wants to write an article while 100 bigots rant about your sincere effort while not lifting a finger to actually describe the topic. | |||
| Remaining editors and administrators make great effort to avoid so called contagious areas where ]s stone wall and delete everything constructive while calling the constructive editor a crank and plastering their users talk page with endless lists of warnings. | |||
| The sanctions have turned into a sort of skeptic outing tool, it is to plaster constructive editors user talk pages and to answer sincere article talk page queries with. | |||
| I have never seen a skeptic get banned over these sanctions. They are universally used to dispose of the so called pseudoscience editor for working on a so labeled pseudoscience article. | |||
| Because skeptics are to lazy to write articles, to debate constructively, to find sources and to write a normal report when someone does something wrong. | |||
| I think that sums it up nicely. | |||
| Again, this is just for information, not about anyone specific, you haven't done anything wrong. | |||
| ] (]) 04:13, 13 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Arbitration enforcement alert: Pseudoscience and fringe science
Please carefully read this information:
The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding pseudoscience and fringe science, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.
Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.
This message is informational only and does not imply misconduct regarding your contributions to date.Template:Z33 Sandstein 13:27, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
As this is my talk page I will describe for you what I think.
This is only for information, it does not imply your misconduct or anyone else's misconduct in specific.
While requiring prominent publishers, real academic credentials and neutral point of view everywhere else on the wiki, the word Pseudoscience was elevated into the equivalent of a scientific discipline and original research in skeptic weblogs to be superior to most peer reviewed scientific journals. Civility was nowhere to be found, in fact, the Unofficial Anti-Pseudoscience Executive (U-APE) wrote their own guidelines and granted it self a notice board to forum shop and stage their attacks on lone editors. Nasty language became the rule rather than the exception. Remaining sensible guidelines were rendered inapplicable by skeptic consensus. The 100 skeptics vs 1 editor setting was not enough however, there also had to be Discretionary Sanctions. This was still not enough, the Committee also had to make content decisions for the Cabal.
A ruling asserted Cold Fusion to be part of the scope of Misplaced Pages's home brew Pseudoscience area of expertise.
There, in 2006, before he left, one intelligent editor noted :
- It is time to stop these concerted violations of Misplaced Pages policy by people who are plainly motivated by a combination of ignorance, bias, and bigotry. They cannot be justified by the need for "quality control of science articles", or by diversionary accusations of "wikishilling", or by other blame-the-victims shenanigans, and if nothing is done about them, they will simply grow worse. In fact, failing to address them would in all likelihood be interpreted by the violators themselves as encouragement to redouble their destructive efforts. I hope and trust that the Arbitration Committee understands this and will act in the best interests of the Misplaced Pages Project.
The Committee OR ruling that cold fusion was pseudoscience was outside the scope of the Committee, it even violated the guidelines for sourcing science articles.
Before the Cold Fusion article was delisted from the featured articles list for not being skeptical enough it was already an unbearable skeptic troll fest, however, besides from editors fighting the fight they did bother to also document the conflict.
As predicted, today there is no room for such Neutral coverage. Such guidelines simply do not apply to team skeptic.
Indeed the skeptics took the lack of action as a sign that anything goes. Thousands of articles have been molested using rhetoric like "Replications are primary sources" or even deleted with a blunt "DELETE FRINGE!" Courtesy links became spam, primary sources could no longer be used carefully, in stead the skeptic weblog was the only tolerable type of source.
Unsurprisingly, editors left in droves! No one wants to write an article while 100 bigots rant about your sincere effort while not lifting a finger to actually describe the topic.
Remaining editors and administrators make great effort to avoid so called contagious areas where Low Information Voters stone wall and delete everything constructive while calling the constructive editor a crank and plastering their users talk page with endless lists of warnings.
The sanctions have turned into a sort of skeptic outing tool, it is to plaster constructive editors user talk pages and to answer sincere article talk page queries with.
I have never seen a skeptic get banned over these sanctions. They are universally used to dispose of the so called pseudoscience editor for working on a so labeled pseudoscience article.
Because skeptics are to lazy to write articles, to debate constructively, to find sources and to write a normal report when someone does something wrong.
I think that sums it up nicely.
Again, this is just for information, not about anyone specific, you haven't done anything wrong.