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West-Berlin part of West-Germany

Why did you change that 2 days ago ? Regards Migrant (talk) 13:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure which exact edit of mine you are talking about. I can tell you that in general I have been fixing some articles which incorrectly referred to West Berlin as part of the Federal Republic of Germany (commonly known as West Germany) some time between 1949 and 1990. If you don't understand why this is an error, please refer to the article West Berlin. —Psychonaut (talk) 13:13, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for pointing that out! I can't say that I ever knew that (kinda surprising because even though I was born after the Cold War, I'm pretty knowledgeable about that part of history). So West Berlin wasn't part of any country at all? It was just an American/British/French-occupied zone? Survivorfan1995 (talk) 20:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it was not part of any country. It was just Allied-occupied territory. Psychonaut (talk) 20:38, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

U.S.A. v. Hudson, Whitfield & Dunlap

Hiya, I worked on your complaint - https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Mosfetfaser&diff=602761816&oldid=600751194 - see here - https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:U.S.A._v._Hudson,_Whitfield_%26_Dunlap&diff=prev&oldid=602762203 - Mosfetfaser (talk) 18:58, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! As I mentioned in the now-deleted message on your talk page, I already added the attribution via an edit summary, so your talk page message wasn't strictly necessary (though it's certainly helpful). —Psychonaut (talk) 19:01, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Logology (sociology)

The article Logology (sociology) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable specialist meaning of word

While all constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. TheLongTone (talk) 22:52, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Nines (film) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nines (film) is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Nines (film) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. DP 16:46, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

CCI update

Misplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/Jamie Tubers is now complete. Thank you for your assistance in the evaluation of this CCI.

MER-C 11:43, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/20130702 is now complete. Thank you for your assistance in the evaluation of this CCI.

MER-C 10:21, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/20140301 is now complete. Thank you for your assistance in the evaluation of this CCI.

MER-C 11:53, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/Vlad4 is now complete. Thank you for your assistance in the evaluation of this CCI.

MER-C 11:44, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Letters to a Stranger

I just rewrote the plot of the article. Check if it still has copyright concerns. If not, Unblank the page, thanks.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 22:30, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks—I'm sure an administrator or copyright clerk will get around to it soon. However, please note for future references that rewrites should go on the temporary page linked to from the copyright violation template. (Follow the "Show" link next to the text "Otherwise, you may write a new article without copyright-infringing material. Click 'Show' to read where and how.") —Psychonaut (talk) 12:21, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Blondnativeguy

I've been going through some of his edits, he keeps removing citation needed tamplates from articles, see my edit summaries in my contributions. Might be ANI time, what do you think? Dougweller (talk) 10:28, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

The behaviour is clear-cut enough to go straight to WP:AIV if it continues. Blanking articles and removing templates without explanation, after being warned, is the textbook definition of vandalism. —Psychonaut (talk) 10:32, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Awesome Work

Just wanted to say thank you for doing some "dirty work" on Misplaced Pages that most people couldn't be bothered to do. I hope enough people appreciate your efforts, because they are truly awesome. Take care! 84.75.8.21 (talk) 12:16, 27 April 2014 (UTC) (lKj)

Thank you! If you don't already have an account, please consider creating one and helping out. :) —Psychonaut (talk) 12:19, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll probably be more of a lurker, but it is indeed time that I set up an account on Misplaced Pages. Ljacqu (talk) 14:28, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	North Korean Fashion Watch Barnstar
	Gerald Shields, founder of the North Korean Fashion Watch, awards you the North Korean Fashion Watch Barnstar for your continuing efforts to add reliable and poignant discussions about North Korean topics, such as Ri Sol-ju. Geraldshields11 (talk) 14:23, 28 April 2014 (UTC)|}

Talk back

mongoloid /Down syndrome/

Do you know people with Down syndrome? Do you know how people with Down syndrome feels when people call them mongoloid? Misplaced Pages is encyclopedia about everything. Everyone needs to know it's hundred percent offensive and pejorative term.

Bayaraa99 — Preceding undated comment added 07:18, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Do you know that using a sockpuppet account to evade your block is not permitted? —Psychonaut (talk) 07:27, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm different person from Batka83. If you don't believe I can send you my private e-mail or FB address.

Bayaraa99 — Preceding undated comment added 01:19, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Please make an effort not to be a jerk

BMK (talk) 09:46, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Regarding List of Teen Titans Go! episodes

Another editor has recreated the list of episodes for Teen Titans Go!, this time splitting the seasons into their own pages with the same problematic summaries (only the season 1 list has these summaries present). Could you possibly review these edits? I'm not quite clear with the protocol. Thanks. 23W (t · c) 01:24, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I've blanked the two articles as copyright violations (though possibly the third one is also a copyvio) and brought this to the attention of two of the administrators already involved in this case. —Psychonaut (talk) 21:30, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'm working an a fresh new list in my sandbox (although it's slowly chugging along). 23W (t · c) 03:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

On this issue, what exactly is the copyvio on List of Teen Titans Go! episodes? As of this edit, right before you blanked the page with the copyvio template, I see none of the problematic summaries that prompted the last copyvio template and subsequent deletion. I've been following this page for a bit and agreed with your/others' past copyvoi templates, but see no reason for it now. If you reply, please do tag me with {{U}} or {{replyto}}. Thank you! EvergreenFir (talk) 06:42, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello EvergreenFir. It's explained at Misplaced Pages:Copyright problems/2014 May 17. Basically, the article reuses CC-BY-SA-licensed text from the previous deleted page, but the legally required attribution is missing. To fix this an administrator needs to do a history merge (while keeping the revisions containing non-free copyright-infringing text revision-deleted). —Psychonaut (talk) 07:31, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Revdel request at Crimean status referendum, 2014

Hello Psychonaut, I don't think that we may delete a revision range spanning hundreds of edits unrelated to the copyvio - this would break the attribution of these edits. See WP:CRD. Petr Matas 17:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

On the contrary; such revdels are not unheard of. There is, however, room for disagreement over exactly how great a range is "too great". I see you've already gone ahead and removed the revdel template; if you intend for it to stay that way I'd ask you start a discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Copyright problems as instructed by the template's own removal instructions. It would be a good idea to attract some further opinions on this particular case. —Psychonaut (talk) 18:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Of course we can start that discussion, but before that I would like to clarify this with you. Quoting WP:CRD:

Criteria for redaction: Blatant copyright violations that can be redacted without removing attribution to non-infringing contributors. If redacting a revision would remove any contributor's attribution, this criterion cannot be used.

Aren't there many edits whose attribution would be removed in this case? Petr Matas 06:07, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

I wonder if your question might not arise from a misunderstanding of the nature of revision deletion. Are you aware that revision deletion doesn't normally remove the attribution for edits, but rather just prevents the content of those edits from being viewed? The list of contributors, edit times, and edit summaries, including those for the rev-del'd edits, remains fully accessible in the page history. —Psychonaut (talk) 08:22, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

I was not sure about this, so thanks for clarification. However, if user A inserts sentence 1 and user B inserts sentence 2 and you make the corresponding edits inaccessible by revdel, then you may be able to determine that users A and B together inserted sentences 1 and 2, but you will not be able to tell who of them inserted sentence 1. In this sense, I would say that their attributions have been removed. Petr Matas 19:41, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes, the precision of the attributions is lost. But as I mentioned earlier, in my experience this is an entirely normal occurrence when applying revdel to copyright violations. The revdel documentation you linked to even specifically provides that the usual procedures for copyright violation removal take precedence. If you still feel that using revdel in this case would negatively affect an unusually high number of revisions, then a better place to debate that would be at Misplaced Pages talk:Copyright problems, not here. Psychonaut (talk) 13:54, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I have posted it at WT:CP#Crimean status referendum, 2014. Petr Matas 10:10, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

CCI question

How did you determine which edits were likely to contain copyvio content? Do we have a new tool to help evaluate this? Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:20, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

I just used some simple bash commands to download the diffs, apply regular expression searches for cases where the editor had added text sourced to a website they are known to typically copy from, and then mark up the corresponding wiki text in the CCI. I wouldn't call this a "new tool" so much as three or four commands I typed off the top of my head and whose results I manually pasted back into Misplaced Pages. I'm happy to dig through my shell history and post the commands here if you're interested. —Psychonaut (talk) 18:27, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Sure! I currently would not be able to make use of your work given my skill level, but in the future I would like to learn some basic programming that I could use to help on tasks like this. Would be happy to squirrel away what you've got until it could be useful to me. :) Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

OK, here's how I did it with the CCI of Norden1990, who is known to copy from http://www.politics.hu/. First, I went to Misplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/Norden1990 and edited the page. I copied all the wikitext from the edit box and pasted it into a text editor, saving the file as Norden1990.wikitext in an otherwise empty directory. Then I issued the following bash commands from that directory:

wget 'https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Contributor_copyright_investigations/Norden1990'
grep -o '//en.*diff=prev&oldid=\+' Norden1990 | cut -f4 -d= > diffs
wget $(sed 's,\(.*\),https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=\&diff=prev\&oldid=\1,' diffs)
grep -m1 'diff-addedline.*politics\.hu' index.php* | cut -f4 -d= | cut -f1 -d: > diffs-politics
sed 's,\(.*\),s%{{dif|\1\\(*}}\\)%<span style="background-color: yellow">{{dif|\1\\1</span>%;,' diffs-politics > highlight_diffs.sed
sed -f highlight_diffs.sed Norden1990.wikitext > Norden1990.wikitext.highlighted

This puts the revised wikitext into the file Norden1990.wikitext.highlighted, which I again opened in a text editor and the copied and pasted into the edit box mentioned above. Before saving the page I made sure to leave an informative edit summary, and I followed up with a more detailed explanation of what I'd done at Misplaced Pages talk:Contributor copyright investigations/Norden1990.

Here's an explanation of what each command does:

1. Downloads the HTML source to the CCI page.
2. Does a regular expression search on the HTML source for diff numbers, and puts these in the file diffs.
3. Builds a URL from each diff number, and downloads the HTML source for the diffs into separate files.
4. Does a regular expression search on each diff file to find cases where the string politics.hu was added to the article wikitext (for example, as part of a <ref> element). The diff numbers of matching files are collected in another file named diffs-politics.
5. Creates highlight-diffs.sed, a sed program which will do a regular expression search and replace on the CCI wikitext. The program will search for matching {{dif}} templates, and then wrap them in <span> tags which apply highlighting with CSS.
6. Runs highlight-diffs.sed on the Norden1990.wikitext file and saves the output to Norden1990.wikitext.highlighted.

Everything I've written above assumes you have bash, GNU wget, GNU sed, and GNU coreutils installed on your system. All of these are free software packages which are widely available for various operating systems.

Hope this helps! —Psychonaut (talk) 21:06, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll experiment with this in the not-too-distant future. :) Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:34, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Great! If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Psychonaut (talk) 22:37, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Reply to your comment

If you understand the subject of that page, you must also understand that Deltahedron's comment is not legitimate one. By his terminology he is just going to f-ck the article. I will report this to an admin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnAu2000 (talk • contribs) 10:29, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Although you are not very active in Misplaced Pages math pages, but your comments on the reliability of that reference make some sense. By the way one of your questions there, generally is remarkable and intellectual (to any scientific research): ... "Is it particularly easy to understand, and therefore a good example for an introductory-level explanation?".JohnAu2000 (talk) 08:39, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Talk:List_of_formerly_proprietary_software

Hello Psychonaut, I made another compromise proposal for solving the problem on this list. Please comment that we can find an mutual agreement, thank you. Shaddim (talk) 16:56, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't think the two of us alone are going to find a mutually acceptable solution, as I see no need at all to change the focus of the article. Feel free to bring your proposals to the wider community via a requested move or an RFC. Or alternatively just start a separate article for source-available proprietary software. —Psychonaut (talk) 19:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

You know as good as I that I will not not bite into this diplomatic maneuver to disfocus. ;) I think this topic is well place in this article, therefore I invite you to join a mutual solution or I will start edit on my own. ;) Shaddim (talk) 20:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Please do not make any edits against consensus. (You have been around here long enough to be familiar with our policy on Consensus and the widely cited essay on the BRD cycle.) Your proposals to change the topic of the article have already been rejected by the only two other editors active on the article, so your only recourse now is to overturn this consensus, slim though it may be, by seeking support from others. You can do so by following the tips at Misplaced Pages:Canvassing#Appropriate notification. —Psychonaut (talk) 20:42, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

What consensus? there was neither a appropriate time nor a appropriate audience. Also, to cite Consensus Consensus; nor is it the result of a vote. so, a vote you + another editor creates no consensus. And according to the BRD cycle How to proceed: Discover the Very Interested Persons (VIP), and reach a compromise/consensus with each, one by one. this is what I'm currently doing ... so please follow this guides and aim for a compromise (like renaming of page or several separated tables.) Shaddim (talk) 20:53, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

For the last time, you have already tried and failed to make a compromise with me. Wanting to maintain a status quo is a perfectly valid position for someone to take, and there is no policy which obliges one to accept a counterproposal just because it is made n times. Find someone else to support your proposed changes, and please do it somewhere other than on my user talk page. —Psychonaut (talk) 21:45, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

But you didn't tried to achieve an consensus with me (neither with someone else), as you was not offering a compromise for the valid concerns I raised (which were partly raised before). And consensus can't be created by a voting argumentation like you did. Shaddim (talk) 04:45, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Regarding spamming

Hello Psychonaut,

I was just Experimenting is this post and didn't know about your sandbox. Thats why i removed that post from your "WikiProject_Spam". So please remove this post from "Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Spam". Next time i'll be careful about your terms and condition — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackhubart (talk • contribs) 13:51, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't have authority to remove someone else's report any more than you do, though I'll post a message there linking to your explanation here. —Psychonaut (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

@psychonaut

Thank for your reply , please let me know the concern person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackhubart (talk • contribs) 16:05, 11 June 2014

If you're asking who posted the report, it was User:SFK2. —Psychonaut (talk) 18:17, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Psychonaut,

I sent a message to User:SFK2, regarding the removal of spam message from "WikiProject_Spam section", but got no reply from him. So can you please suggest me what should i do further in this matter.

Thanks

Jack — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackhubart (talk • contribs) 04:53, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

The message will be removed from Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Spam (and then archived) once the Misplaced Pages community discusses the matter and a consensus forms on a course of action. Since you're a contributor here, you're also part of this community, and are very much welcome to contribute to the discussion there. —Psychonaut (talk) 07:23, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Reply

Okay, I understand regarding the copyright issue, and I apologize. Can I at least just re-add the titles of the episodes to said page? User:Jjsthekid (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Sure, the titles and other information you were adding were fine. You just shouldn't copy the prose episode descriptions. Psychonaut (talk) 21:08, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

I understand, all I was doing was help keep things up with the time on the List of Sofia the First episodes page and I had no idea what I was doing was a copyright violation. I apologize for the trouble I've caused and you have my word it will never happen again. Alex2424121 (talk) - Preceding undated comment added 21:14, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Gatch gereftani for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Gatch gereftani is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gatch gereftani (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. TerriersFan (talk) 00:52, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Regarding reference to tools for static analysis tool

Hello Psychonaut,

In List_of_tools_for_static_code_analysis, you removed a reference to a tools used to analysed static code. This tool is CAST Application Intelligence Platform and it works on main languages used in develpment. This tool is often referenced by the community as a multi-language static analysis tool, for example in stackoverflow.com website : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1900238/what-are-the-static-tool-analysis-options-apart-from-cast-via-plug-ins-for-jav or or linkedin community : https://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=1973349&trk=anet_ug_hm What is needed to put back this tool in the page ?

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DamienPo (talk • contribs) 10:20, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't recall making such an edit, though if I did it was probably because someone added an entry without linking to the tool's article. As Misplaced Pages isn't an indiscriminate directory of software, this page should list only those those tools which have corresponding Misplaced Pages articles, and those articles in turn should exist only if the tool is notable as evidenced by coverage in reliable sources.

I see now that there is an article at CAST Application Intelligence Platform. Ordinarily I'd say you can go ahead and re-add this tool to the list, though I note that the article itself isn't sourced to anything I would consider reliable. (It references a single trade journal article which looks like a CAST press release.) Are you aware of any press or scholarly coverage of CAST Application Intelligence Platform whose authors and publishers are entirely unconnected to CAST? If so, please add this information to CAST Application Intelligence Platform. —Psychonaut (talk) 11:10, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer Psychonaut. Once it will be done, I will come back to you to undo the edit on List_of_tools_for_static_code_analysis page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DamienPo (talk • contribs) 16:34, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Turkish Language

Good morning,
actually on Talk:Turkish language there is a discussion related to your discussion about Turkish in Languages of Europe. I would be glad if you could bring there your opinion. Alex2006 (talk) 09:15, 19 July 2014 (UTC)