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welcome

Thanks for your contribution to west bank barrier

As they say in wikipedia "be bold". Zeq 04:24, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Apartheid Wall article

I'm not sure what Misplaced Pages standard is for these kinds of articles. I thought a discussion of the terminology was a reasonable compromise between those who wanted it to simply re-direct to Israeli West Bank barrier, and those who wanted to delete it as POV. Note that Ramallite's suggestion would end up turning it into a re-direct to Israeli West Bank barrier. Jayjg 06:23, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your help in copy edit. Please feel more than welcome to correct my English. Zeq 10:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Please vote

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Ramallite

Please see this

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Israeli_Arab&diff=28437362&oldid=28435794

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Israeli_Arab&diff=28490655&oldid=28490217

Thanks, Zeq 09:49, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

A bit surprised

I noticed this edit and was struck by the edit summary "Edited intro to make it less anti-Israel POV". I have no idea why you would consider something that is just maybe 'pro Palestinian' as necessarily 'anti Israeli'. The two are not synonymous. I hope you can accept that, and that not every single statement made about Palestine or the Palestinian people is necessarily a political one. Ramallite 16:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

welcome back

Can you e-mail me ? Zeq 18:43, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

you need to open a mail box any where (yahoo/gmail etc) enbale it in your prefrnces page.

next I think you can from my user or talk page click on e-mail this user.

Zeq 20:28, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Disputes among the sources

The way they're usually handled is simply to quote all the sources, unless you can find some outside corroboration which leads you to think one is correct, more recent, etc. Jayjg 23:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

The edits look good to me. Nowadays most people are using a different footnoting system, the <note></note> combination. Jayjg

Re: Homeontherange vs. Zeq

Its already been brought up here. If there are new developments I will let you know.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 10:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I thought this belonged on your talk page!

"Maybe Misplaced Pages should not aspire to be a reflection of the informational chaos of the Web, but rather an oasis from it." Great statement, Elizmr 01:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I was just writing to Elizmr and got curious about your thank you for some reason -but yeah -Damn good! --Armon 15:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Zeq

Zeq has not only "pushed the envelope" he's on probation and has violated his probation explicitly. The ArbComm ruling on Zeq gives admins the authority to ban him. Nevertheless, I asked Arbitrators about it before acting and am referring Zeq's probation violation to them for an opinion. Thanks for the "pushed the envelope" comment, btw, I'll use it as evidence that even his supporters view his editing as tendendatious.Homey 02:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

As to Zeq, another admin has now banned him from the article in question after an Arbitrator put the issue to Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement (shortcut WP:AE).Homey 03:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

For writing something nice on my talk page. When I first started using wikipedia, when I saw the orange it would make me happy. Now it terrifies me! Your message was a nice break from the usual. Elizmr 13:01, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

what is wrong with this ?

Israeli apartheid is a a focused, targeted propaganda epithet which is at the center of a campaign for a political platform is attempting to rewrite and redefine the history of Israel as that of a "racist apartheid state".it's sole purpose is to to demonize the State of Israel. **The apartheid wall is a similarly controversial term used by the same critics to describe the Israeli West Bank barrier, currently under construction.

FYI

See this and few more of my recent contrubutions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Israeli_apartheid_%28phrase%29&diff=prev&oldid=56942662

Zeq 05:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, we have a suspected impersonator

Hi SJ, let's keep an eye on 65J7 (talk · contribs). I suspect an impersonator. ←Humus sapiens 08:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

This is my first time dealing with an impersonator. I used the most appropriate template I found at WP:SOCK. Feel free to edit or take any other action. I assumed good faith and didn't block it, but if suspicious activity persists, let me (or more experienced admins) know. ←Humus sapiens 18:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I replied there at talk. Until the AFDs run their course, it doesn't really matter. This circus cannot go on. ←Humus sapiens 00:54, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

FYI

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Tony_Sidaway#FYI_-_clear_pattern_of_edit_war_using_sock_puppets

Hafrada

If I understand it correctly you want to merge an article about a term that describes policies aimed to separate Israelis from Palestinians into Apartheid outside of South Africa. That means that you are aware of the connection between the terms hafrada and apartheid. As for my personal POV (which you misrepresent here); I believe that it is detrimental to try to change the appearance of reality rather than reality itself. Palestinians have representation in Knesset, etc, so Israeli is not an apartheid state. But some policies in regard to housing, transportation, marriage, etc, are discriminatory against Palestinians - and reminiscent of the racial segregation in South Africa. Trying to conceal this instead of dealing with it will not prove beneficial to anyone. I will not be editing Hafrada any further since Zeq have started a campaign against me for using legitimate multiple accounts, not to decieve but for segregation and security reasons. I hope that you will reconsider your position. Regards. Article20 09:50, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

FYI

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Israeli_apartheid&curid=5330946&diff=59410459&oldid=59405587

Renaming articles

Please do not rename Israeli apartheid without consensus. If you want to move the article discuss it on talk first rather than acting unilaterally. Homey 04:18, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Kim moved the article back when it was protected because the use of parenthesis for non-disambiguation purposes was against policy.

Why are you unwilling to seek consensus before renaming the page? Homey 04:34, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I was hoping that you were unaware of the fact that you have unilaterally attempted to reverse to changes accomplished by a mediator and via consensus. Homey 04:49, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

As per your request I raised this on the Talk page and your renaming has been reversed.Homey 05:11, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Please see the diffs between the old version and the consensus version. I'm afraid your claim is mistaken.Homey 06:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

There are two questions 1) should there be a reference to Duke in the lead and 2) should it be in the article at all. When I was referring to consensus I was referring only to question 1, not to question 2.

As for your other point, please read Misplaced Pages:Civility. Homey 06:38, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

FYI

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR#User:Homeontherange_reported_by_User:Zeq_2

The consensus intro

I don't see where you see this second paragraph:

Israeli apartheid (or calling Israel an apartheid state) is a controversial phrase used by some critics of Israel to describe the country's policies towards the Palestinian and Israeli Arab populations. Critics of the term argue that it is historically inaccurate, offensive, antisemitic, and is used as justification for terrorist attacks against Israel.

==Origins==

The analogy was used as early as 1987 by Uri Davis, an Israeli-born academic and Jewish member of the Palestine Liberation Organization, in his book Israel: An Apartheid State (ISBN 0862323177) which provided a detailed comparison of Israel and South Africa. The highly controversial World Conference against Racism in Durban, South Africa adopted resolutions describing Israel as an "apartheid state" . The term was subsequently used by the South African cleric Desmond Tutu in the articles he published following his visit to Israel. .

And here is Kim's edit note for the version above (Action as mediator: Of all contributers to the discussion,this first sentence was accepted by all except 1 editor) Homey 16:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Several to three?

Please explain how "several" is more specific than "three"? Homey 20:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Did you actually read what you were reverting? I didn't put the descriptions back in, I just tweaked the previous revert for accuracy - only three organizations are cited not "several". Please self-revert. Homey 20:33, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Israeli Apartheid arbitration

The move/revert war issue for Israeli Apartheid has been referred to arbitration. See Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Move and revert warring at Israeli Apartheid --John Nagle 00:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)