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Speedy deletion nomination of Peter Shatner (actor, author, producer)

A tag has been placed on Peter Shatner (actor, author, producer), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing no content to the reader. Please note that external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article don't count as content. Moreover, please add more verifiable sources, not only 3rd party sources. Please see Misplaced Pages:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. You may wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the article's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Buggie111 (talk) 03:10, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

William Shatner

Please review WP:Source before making further edits.THD3 (talk) 22:35, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

August 2014

Please do not write or add to an article about yourself. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was my page deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you. Alexf 13:25, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Misplaced Pages about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to William Shatner. Thank you. Evan  13:45, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

You've posted the same section to my talk page three times. Stop doing that, please. Evan  14:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Stop editing my talk page

Posting the same message four times is not going to get you a different result. Stop now. Evan  14:42, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

August 2014

Your recent editing history at William Shatner shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. GB fan 14:44, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

User talk:Evanh2008

You have been asked to not post the same material to User talk:Evanh2008. Stop posting there. The place to discuss the information you want to add is on the articles talk page, Talk:William Shatner. GB fan 14:49, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring. The thread is Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Petershatner reported by User:Evanh2008 (Result: ). Thank you. Evan  14:49, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

August 2014

Your recent edits to William Shatner could give Misplaced Pages contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Misplaced Pages itself. Please note that making such threats on Misplaced Pages is strictly prohibited under Misplaced Pages's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Misplaced Pages, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content, not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. This warning is talking about the edit summary left here GB fan 14:59, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Peter, I am an administrator on the English Misplaced Pages. I have protected the William Shatner article from editing for a short while to stop you edit warring in it. The alternative would be to block you from editing Misplaced Pages altogether. I should probably have done that, and will do if you continue. Please take this enforced break as an opportunity to read the links to our guidelines in the messages from other users above. In particular, all information in articles about living persons must be cited to a trusted source. We do not consider IMdB reliable for biographical information. SpinningSpark 15:13, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

I am moving back here your post on my talk page. Other editors are watching this conversation so we need to keep the conversation together so they can follow it. I have this page watchlisted so there is no need to notify me when you reply. SpinningSpark 16:25, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Dear Spinningspark,

Your message, in particular "We do not consider IMdB reliable for biographical information," is confusing considering that I have - perhaps in a clumsy way - posted two articles: one from The Wall Street Journal and one from The Herald Tribune which confirm that I am the son of William Shatner.

I'm not referencing IMDB. And if you google me you will will find many other such articles which confirm this information.

Please let me know how I can be of further assistance to confirm these references.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390444327204577617520166228372

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20111020/ARTICLE/111029945

Petershatner (talk) 15:44, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Peter, I don't want to become involved in the dispute over whether this material belongs in Misplaced Pages or not. I am here solely to deal with your behaviour. So here a few points,

• Edit warring is not permitted as an absolute here. It does not matter if you are in the right. Disagreements should be settled on the article talk page by consensus, not by who has the most stamina to keep on reverting.
• Our biographies of living people policy (BLP) has become very strict due to numerous unpleasant attacks on people through the pages of Misplaced Pages. Inline citations within the article are required. The only citation you put in the article was the IMdB one and your last edit put in no citation at all. Asking others to google for the information or to look elsewhere is not sufficient. Your edits were quite rightly removed on BLP grounds alone.
• Possibly, if you had put in the cites you have given above in the first place the material would have been accepted. Maybe, maybe not, as I say I am not going to get involved in the content dispute. However, now that you have been reverted by several different editors you have no choice at all but to discuss the issue on the talk page. It is unlikely that anyone will insert the edit you have requested until they can see consensus for it. All they can see at the moment is that you have been reverted half a dozen times.
• You clearly have a conflict of interest in this article. As such, you should not be editing it even when it becomes unprotected. Please instead restrict yourself to suggestions on the talk page.

Regards, SpinningSpark 16:51, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

To all:

Forgive my lack of understanding of the complex process of editing Misplaced Pages.

I have decided to stand-down in the matter, now that I understand the processes more clearly.

The consensus will decide.

Peter Shatner