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Maproom

Hello i am Niko. How are you? (Mudak568 (talk) 16:55, 3 January 2014 (UTC)) Mudak568 (talk) 16:55, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:59, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

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The madness

Yeah, the madness appears to be in full swing. I wonder where they get the energy, and how they explain it to their families. "No, I can't spend time with you, my love; I have to lock myself in the bedroom and commit myself to hours of rampant Misplaced Pages sockpuppetry. But it'll all be worth it some day!" Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I doubt they have families. Maproom (talk) 20:49, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Ha! Good point! Here's a relevant thread: User talk:Kansas Bear#Sock. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:21, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

References to Noel Shaw.

yesterday you edited out the references under the page Noel Shaw. can you please restore these back to original saving me having to redo them manually? I know you were trying to help. however removing refernces and placing them in the body of the text did not help.Rowe street (talk) 02:35, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean. I did here add <br> tags to the list of his published works. I also here deleted a paragraph and reference mistakenly added by User:Jreferee about a different Noel Shaw, a painter of Irish rural scenes in a nostalgic style. If you can tell me which edit you mean (maybe by specifying its precise date and time) I will reverse it. Maproom (talk) 09:31, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Incidentally – when you first asked at the Help Desk for help with the Noel Shaw article, you mentioned that he had died. But the article makes no mention of his death. Another editor has now put a message at the top of the article, warning about Misplaced Pages's "biographies of living persons" policy. Maproom (talk) 09:48, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks. Two corrections are still needed. Sorry, I didn't realize this immediately. --Edcolins (talk) 11:38, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

February

March

Kava link

Hi Maproom, can you help me understand the specific reason the link (described below) is not allowed ? You were kind enough to direct me to WP:ELNO and when I asked the editor for clarification he/she did not respond --"Regarding Kava- "Strains and Origins", Thank You. I went to WP:ELNO and see numerous potential reasons for reverting my edits. How can we find out specifically which one(s)? This was to provide a link/citation to the free, on-line Hawaiian 'Awa Book.75.233.157.82 (talk) 18:37, 20 March 2014 (UTC) as you say, the policy outlines many reasons why the link should not be included. What you need to do is identify why it should be included. But neither the fact that it is "free" nor the fact that it "is online" are reasons it should be included. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC) The reason it should be included - it is the source of the information regarding Hawaiian 'awa (kava) contained in the article. It seems it would meet these criteria- "Is the site content proper in the context of the article (useful, tasteful, informative, factual, etc.)? Is the link functioning and likely to remain functional?" Thank YouKahua (talk) 17:57, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

A very short reply, until I am back at home with good internet access.

I think the link itself was OK, but the way you cited it, as an internal link in the body of the article, was unacceptable and looked promotional. Incidentally _ it is usual to post at the bottom of users' talk pages, not at the top. Once I am at home instead of using a smartphone I will move this thread. Maproom (talk) 11:23, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much . I look forward to understanding this.Kahua (talk) 18:01, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

WP:ELNO is about what links are acceptable. I have no opinion on whether the link in question is acceptable. However, the way the link was incorporated in the article was definitely wrong. For guidance on how to cite sources, you should read WP:CITE, rather than WP:ELNO.

Here is the sentence of the article, before you edited it:

Winter explains that ‘awa, especially of the Hiwa variety, was offered to hula deities in return for knowledge and inspiration. .

Here it is with the link that you added:

Winter explains that ‘awa, especially of the Hiwa variety, was offered to hula deities in return for knowledge and inspiration. , here is the link to this publication---http://www.awadevelopment.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/awabook-web-part-1-of-2.pdf.

Here it is with the same link, added in the way that conforms (more or less, I am not an expert at this) to Misplaced Pages's recommended style:

Winter explains that ‘awa, especially of the Hiwa variety, was offered to hula deities in return for knowledge and inspiration.

Whoever first added the "Hawaiian 'Awa" reference did it wrong. You made it worse, incorporating a long url into the text of the article, along with unwanted tags. The correct method of adding a reference adds only a superscript number in square brackets to the visible text; this links to an actual reference in the "references" section of the article. At least it does if the article contains something like this: {{reflist}} at the bottom - as this reply now does Maproom (talk) 12:12, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much for helping me understand this, whether someone adds it correctly or not. I wish all Misplaced Pages correspondence was as civil and clear as yours.Kahua (talk) 18:15, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

You asked a simple clear question, politely, and I did my best to answer it. There's actually a lot of civility on Misplaced Pages. It's just that the uncivil discussions go on for longer, and get noticed more. Maproom (talk) 18:42, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

1. Ed Johnston (2006). "Hawaiian 'Awa, Views of an Ethnobotanical Treasure" (PDF). p. 34. Retrieved 30 March 2014. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

A barnstar for you! re. Energetically modified cement

		The Civility Barnstar
		...for displaying civility during the energetically modified cement incident, based on my reading of previous entries on the article talk page. You conducted yourself there in a manner certainly worthy of admiration, given the persistent incivility I observed. Azx2 18:34, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

April

Your contributed article, Talk:Pacific Title & Art Studio

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It was not I who created it — but I am happy with the resolution. Maproom (talk) 15:57, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

A cookie (biscuit?) for you!

Thanks for replacing the map image for Jeju City - the previous "floating 2 km somewhere SE of mainland" version was not very helpful. Jmg38 (talk) 03:56, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

May

Thank you Maproom

The technical parts are a concern yes. I almost didn't find the response you left to my question. I found a Thank you button for one editor and couldn't find it to say thanks to you. I get lost on here.

I do have reputable magazine articles for Ms. Fontaines. 2 INSTYLE magazine and 1 Marie Claire. Marie Claire's was not available online. The INSTYLE articles Have been located online. Would photographs of the Marie Claire issues suffice? How do I add them? Are they added in links with the link button or do I have to use certain another method. Is that what a reference is and what is the difference between a citation and reference? Which is most important and how is it laid out on the page?

I will look for articles that relate to James Duvals action figure for Donny Darko Bunny. They have to exist somewhere.

So for example IMDB has a whole slew of articles listed. Some of them exist online. Various Articles Instyle Magazine In the case of the articles that can't be found online what do I do?

Thanks for your assistance Maproom. This novice can use any assistance offered. Venus2211 (talk) 07:14, 9 May 2014 (UTC)venus2211

Venus2211: I shall try to go through some points one by one, in order.

• I know nothing about Instyle magazine. The link you have given is for a page in Hungarian. An English-language source would be better, but a source in Hungarian may be acceptable. It seems that Ms. Fontaines is better known in Hungary than in the US. This seems odd to me; if it is correct, it may be worth mentioning it, and the reason for it, in the article.

• I know very little about Marie Claire magazine, but from what I have found today it looks to me like a reliable source. But photographs of issues will not be acceptable (they would be a copyright violation). All you need to do is to give a reference to the magazine, giving date, and preferably volume or issue number and page number. I'll try to give an example of how to cite a reference, using an unrelated newspaper I happen to have to hand. "On May 6 2014, Freddie Starr was informed that he would not face prosecution over accusations of sexual abuse." This will enable anyone with access to a good library to check that The Times really said what I am claiming. I added this citation by clicking the "Templates" item at the left of the blue bar at the top of the edit panel. I also made sure that it said {{reflist}} near the bottom of the page.

• The IMDB link you give is in fact a link to this talk page.

Maproom (talk) 08:04, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

1. "I've been through two years of hell over sex claims, says Starr". The Times: 7. 7 May 2014.

Helpful. Thanks

That response is very helpful. I will work at it. The link for IMBD is Various Articles for Ms.Fontaines. Instyle and Marie Claire are very big magazines. Getting articles in them in any country. They are world wide. The article translates to english there is an option for that. Ms. Fontaines did several interviews out of the Los Angeles Film Festival for INSTYLE and MARIE CLAIRE and then they reached her again asking to do more articles. I heard about it on several radio shows Ms. Fontaines was a guest on. The readers of INSTYLE and MARIECLAIRE wanted more of Ms. Fontaines. We don't know why fans become fans they just do. I am a fan for many reasons. Does twitter count as a fan base following? Ms.Fontaines has over 15,400 followers. Ms.Fontaines Twitter Followers I cannot locate the page I started editing for Ms. Fontaines. Where can I find it so that I can build upon it and make the page work? I hope to get better at finding things on here and not be so lost. Thanks Thanks Thanks Venus2211 (talk) 08:31, 9 May 2014 (UTC)Venus2211

That IMDB link does work. You should use it to choose some references to use, preferably ones written in English.

Twitter is not accepted by Misplaced Pages as a source for a subject's notability (or for anything else).

The article you created has been deleted. A Misplaced Pages admin might be able to restore it for you, but I cannot. I recommend that you create a new article in your "sandbox" at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Venus2211/sandbox&action=edit , and work on it there until it is ready to go public, so that it does not get deleted again. Maproom (talk) 10:16, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Periods inside quotes

Regarding your edit here, I believe it is standard US practice to put closing periods (or some other punctuation mark) inside the quotation, regardless of whether or not the quotation is so punctuated. See or for instance. You should probably self-revert per WP:ENGVAR. SpinningSpark 00:15, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

That's interesting. I had thought that you were right; or rather, that you would be right if "Lobster" were a quotation rather than the name of a publication. But I checked in en:Misplaced Pages's style manual, and found "place all punctuation marks inside the quotation marks if they are part of the quoted material and outside if they are not". Maproom (talk) 06:40, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

I stand corrected. Glad I decided I wasn't quite sure enough of that to revert you, and now I see that it wasn't even a quotation in the first place. Happy editing. SpinningSpark 09:57, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

June

Graphics Lab request

Just letting you know it's done. Hope it looks good, if not let me know on my talk page and I'll tweak it some more. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 22:06, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! It looks good to me, and I have used it to replace the old one on the en: page. We'll see how things work out now. Maproom (talk) 22:14, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Deletion reasons

Maproom, pages are never speedy deleted on notability grounds, that is not a valid criterion. Nor is being unreferenced. Deletion for lack of notability must go to an AFD debate. Certain types of article (mostly people and companies) can be speedy deleted if they make no credible claim to importance, but this is a much easier standard to meet than notability. SpinningSpark 13:12, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

July

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Sockpuppetry

Are you alleging that RunNroll is a sockpuppet at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/AjoChhand Machine? If so, I agree, and have requested a sockpuppet investigation. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:15, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

I am not alleging it. I am providing evidence, from which other users, like you, may draw inferences.

I am a Bayesian. When all I knew of RunNroll was his activity in the deletion discussion, I thought he might be a sockpuppet, but probably not. After I had looked at his edit record, and found

1. One previous, but recent, edit
2. to an unrelated and thoroughly uninteresting article
3. which consisted of randomly changing one digit

my degree of belief in his sockpuppetness became much higher. Maproom (talk) 17:46, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Help Desk

I removed the content about President Reagan and lead azide because the help desk did not look like the right place for the posting. Should I not have done that? Feel free to revert my deletion if you would like. Thanks Piguy101 (talk) 19:50, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I think that the OP was contesting the accuracy of the article. He posted in block capitals, in the wrong place, without mentioned what article he was writing about, and in language which was hard to understand. But I still think he had a right to make his point. Maproom (talk) 20:11, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm...I'll add his post back and remove yours. Piguy101 (talk) 20:14, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Here's a lc version: (Maproom (talk) 20:18, 13 July 2014 (UTC))

The subject of lead azide lateraled to a quip, about Ronald Reagan (then president), being shot by bullets with lead azide and coated-aluminum - which is false. The testing for any adulterants (poisons) or devastating compounds was negative. The applied description by wiki is a lie - unsubstantiated - and should be removed/revised. Lead azide used as this trauma-enhancing tool would have made a softball-sized cavity within, shattering the two-lobed lung, pericardium & muscled chambers at-entry. Virginia jackrabbits were all-over-this, so do not distort, or allow distortion of this terrible event into a humpty-dumpty tale.

 Done I changed it. Thanks Piguy101 (talk) 20:20, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Future meetups

Hi, thanks for coming to Oxford 18 last weekend. At the meetup, some people were asking of a good way to find out about future meetups in other parts of the country. Visit one or more of the following, and "watch" it:

• At English Misplaced Pages:
  • MediaWiki:Geonotice.js (for masochists; includes non-UK events, and a few that are not meetups. UK meetups are listed no more than four weeks in advance)
  • Template:Meetup-UK
  • Template:UK Misplaced Pages meetups
  • Misplaced Pages:Meetup/UK
• At Meta:
  • m:Meetup/UK/Footer list
  • m:Template:Meetup list (includes non-UK events)
  • m:User:Redrose64/geonotice (this page is the smallest)
• At WikiMedia UK:
  • wmuk:Events (includes events that are not meetups)

Then, as events get added, you'll find out through the watchlist of the relevant site. The next Oxford meetup is on 17 August. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:31, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

August

Blocked by mistake

Hello, Maproom. My name is Luis and I work at Sistema FIRJAN, in Brazil. I created this account (Luis Claudio da Silva) in order to edit in my name, since Bernardo was in charge of the Sistema Firjan account (already blocked). Now I am the one responsible for that same account, renamed by wikipedians Luis at Sistema FIRJAN in order to maintain the previous editions. Note that this DOES NOT go against any WP policy, what was already discussed with other WP EN editors in a Talk Page that was deleted (don´t know why). I am sure you can retrieve it, if necessary. But in short, what we discussed was about the specific guideline Username policy. I invite you to read it, specifically this part, which says:

"However, usernames are acceptable if they contain a company or group name but are clearly intended to denote an individual person, such as "Mark at WidgetsUSA", "Jack Smith at the XY Foundation", "WidgetFan87", "LoveTrammelArt", etc.".

Having said that, I conclude you have blocked the account Luis at Sistema FIRJAN by mistake. Hence, I kindly request you to unblock it as soon as possible. Thank you, Luis. --Luis Claudio da Silva (talk) 22:17, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Maproom: I don't see you involved with that user, so excuse me barging in here.

@Luis Claudio da Silva: I just checked, and the account Luis at Sistema FIRJAN (talk · contribs) is not blocked at this time. If you're having trouble editing from that account, you'll need to follow whatever instructions you're given there to request clearing of the block or autoblock. We can't diagnose it further from here. —C.Fred (talk) 22:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Indeed I am not responsible for blocking "Luis at Sistema FIRJAN". I am not any kind of admin, and have no power to block anyone. And now that I have read Misplaced Pages:Username_policy#Promotional_names more thoroughly, I have learned that names like "Mark at WidgetsUSA" are acceptable. I apologise for stating that "'Luis at Sistema FIRJAN" was unacceptable. Maproom (talk) 22:47, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Verification, creds, links

I have several books including two anthologies I edited, won two NJ State Arts Council Fellowships, one in prose and one in poetry, won the Kinereath Genseler Award for my book Panic (also a BOTYA finalist) with Alice James Books, and there are a ton of links to my work on line. A quick search pulls these up. If they need to be linked on the page, then that would be great, but calling the page into question is inappropriate as my creds are in line with many other poets' pages:

some Books and anthologies I have written or edited:

http://www.blacklawrence.com/rigger-death-and-hoist-another/ http://syracuseuniversitypress.syr.edu/fall-2013/room-and-the-world.html http://alicejamesbooks.org/ajb-titles/panic/ http://www.blacklawrence.com/speech-acts/ http://www.ugapress.org/index.php/books/index/sense_of_regard

Reviews or comments on my work:

http://www.wordforword.info/vol18/Pollard.html http://thelinebreak.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/laura-mcculloughs-speech-acts/ http://thepotomacjournal.com/issue9/laura_mccullough.html http://contrarymagazine.com/2011/laura-mccullough-speech-acts/ http://www.guernicamag.com/daily/laura_mccullough_reading_recom/

Interviews of me or by me:

http://nanofiction.org/weekly-feature/interviews/2013/10/five-questions-with-laura-mccullough http://tcjww.org/2014/02/10/interview-laura-mccullough/ http://www.poetsandartists.com/laura-mccullough/ http://realitysandwich.com/389/what_men_want_interview_laura_mccullough/ http://poems.com/special_features/prose/essay_hicok2.php http://poetsonadoption.blogspot.com/2011/04/laura-mccullough.html

Radio or Videos of me or me interviewing other writers:

http://www.leahbrowning.net/Apple/Fall_2009/Laura_McCullough.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LAYKLSZVWo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfTrWCIJ8_4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15sRlWAN2fU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP0hTQee-9w

Examples of poems online:

http://goodmenproject.com/author/laura-mccullough/ http://www.tupeloquarterly.com/everywhere-i-havent-been-anywhere-by-laura-mccullough/ http://solsticelitmag.org/author/laura-mccullough/ http://www.leahbrowning.net/Apple/Fall_2009/Laura_McCullough.html http://www.versedaily.org/2014/aboutlauramccullough.shtml https://www.aprweb.org/poem/speaking-malagasy-isle-vanilla http://www.anomalouspress.org/8/26.mccullough.bowie.php http://www.diodepoetry.com/v4n2/content/mccullough_l.html http://www.drunkenboat.com/db18/laura-mccullough http://www.fishousepoems.org/?artist=mccullough-laura http://referentialmagazine.com/contributors/m-o/laura-mccullough/ http://www.connotationpress.com/a-poetry-congeries-with-john-hoppenthaler/2010/february-2010/307-laura-mccullough-poetry http://anti-poetry.com/anti/mcculloughla/ http://www.pebblelakereview.com/archive/2009_v6_1_health_wellness/poem_SweetSick.html

http://www.2river.org/2RView/11_4/poems/mccullough.html http://www.wordriot.org/template.php?ID=743 http://baltimorereview.org/index.php/fall_2013/contributor/laura-mccullough http://www.tarpaulinsky.com/Summer03/LMCunt.htm

http://www.madhattersreview.com/issue13/fiction_mccullough.shtml

I teach in these two writing venues, one an annual conference, the other an MFA program:

http://www.sierranevada.edu/academics/humanities-social-sciences/creative-writing-mfa/mfa-faculty/ http://wintergetaway.com/poetry-faculty.html

Other things I have written that appear on Web:

http://www.blacklawrence.com/title-as-invitation-poetry-contests-as-dinner-party-by-laura-mccullough/

http://www.cortlandreview.com/features/14/spring/mccullough.php

http://hub.gmnews.com/news/2006-04-06/Front_page/028.html http://hub.gmnews.com/news/2006-04-06/Front_page/028.html

How to resolve this? Lmccullough (talk) 20:43, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Adding twenty references like the above is not going to help. They confirm that you and your poetry exist, but that was never in doubt. What is needed is evidence that you and your work are notable – please click on that blue word to find what it means here.

You could provide such evidence best by finding a few – about three – references to established reputable published sources which write about you. I can't help you with that, I am a scientist, and while I have heard of The New York Review of Books and The Times Literary Supplement, I have no idea what other sources are respected. But I do know, from having observed other discussions on "proposals for deletion", that long lists have a negative effect. They mean that those judging the article click on a few links, decide that they are not compelling evidence of notablity, and don't bother with the rest. It is more effective just to present the most compelling few references.

Incidentally – I suspect that an apology for your accusation of sexism would be well received. But I won't presume to advise on that. Maproom (talk) 10:12, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

not sure who and how to post, but trying to resolve this.

( Deleted message, which was a copy of the previous one. )

Lmccullough (talk) 20:44, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Andreas Kaplan-related sockpuppet investigation notice

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Please tell me your real name and an email address I can contact you on. Be very careful who you cast aspersions on... Adam Neira World Peace 2050 Founded April 2000 AdamNeira (talk) 09:42, 27 August 2014 (UTC)