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Hi! Thanks for fixing the links on the Bela article. I hope I didn't bite your head off on that edit summary. I had been dealing with silly edits on other articles just before that, and my immediate response was 'egh, not again.' My connection's died in the middle of edits, I should have thought of that. :) Thanks again for stepping in! Namaste, Mademoiselle Sabina 09:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I'm trying to become a functioning member of the community, so I appreciate your advice. Good to talk to you, let me know what else I can do to help. Nscheffey 09:45, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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Your revertion of my edit

http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk01152005.html

theres your source...

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I apologize for my hasty revertion. Seemed like it had to be a joke. Again, sorry. Nscheffey 22:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

List of queercore musicians

um what did you revert--Terronez 03:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I already fixed it, just letting you know.Nscheffey 03:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Iraq War Article

I just wanted to say I think your edits to the article were perfect in removing much of the garbage that was put into it. Since it has not been reverted it looks like an outside observer and cool head was all that was needed. Thank again. --zero faults 13:10, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I know you feel you do not know too much about the situation, but if you have read over the summaries by both parties and agree with one of the summaries you can endorse one. You do not have to write out your own piece on the situation. Also I do appreciate the help you offered to the Iraq War article, its an idea I offered but was shot down in a mediation cabal. I think it took an outsider to the conflict to make the decission seem unbiased. Some of what you may have read over is just a part of it, some of it was archived. The best part about this whole thing is while we may have different views on the war itself, I was still able to see how useful your edits were.

Just to state my beliefs, I think the war is morally bankrupt. However legally its on solid ground till an international court decides to look into it. The issue with my edits is, facts d not support my personal view, and so I put only what I can factually prove and source in the article, I dont think I will ever be able to prove some of my outlandish views on why the US went to war. --zero faults 10:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your welcome greetings

Hello Nscheffey,

thank you for your welcome greetings. I hope, that I can help the en:WP, because I have written some articles about Thuringia in german WP and there are a lot of thinks to do here. Greetings from sunny and hot (but only today ;-) Ilmenau, Thuringia, Germany. Hope, I did no grammar mistakes *g* --Michael Sander 15:26, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages with links

FYI, I moved your recent comment from Misplaced Pages talk:Disambiguation pages with links/2006-05-18 dump to Misplaced Pages talk:Disambiguation pages with links to centralize the discussion. --Russ Blau (talk) 12:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I kind of knew I was posting in the wrong place, thanks for fixing my mistake. Nscheffey 23:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

WOT

Misplaced Pages:WOT is up for vote now. Rangeley 16:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

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Brian Sewell

Thanks for the help catching the vandalism on Brian Sewell. That was getting frustrating!  :) Cabiria 16:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Of course. Holla atcha boy. Nscheffey 16:32, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Your User Page

Hey, I was just randomly perusing UserPages looking for inspiration for my own when I stumbled upon yours. I have to say it's the most aesthetically pleasing page I've ever seen on Misplaced Pages, period. Did you design it yourself? Very clean, crisp and elegant. Anyway, just thought I'd throw some wikiprops your way. Namaste. Nscheffey 16:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliments. Yes, I did design it myself. Good luck on designing your page and if you need or want any help, you can always contact me. joturner 16:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Tagi AFD

I posted a message like this on the Tagi AFD page. It was for you and three other editors. You wanted to make it a redirect. I said that if Tagi becomes a redirect why not every tribe in Survivor history? What makes it special?TeckWizContribs_Guestbook 11:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

That's fine. I think every Survivor tribe in history should redirect to their appropriate season. Why not? By the way, the link to the Contribs in your sig is broken, you need to change Special:Contribution to Special:Contributions. Cheers. --Nscheffey 12:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me no about the broken link. However, I'm pretty sure many users (including me) would list these for RFD. Even now you can see the article isn't deserving of a redirect, otherwise every tribe would have one. Just a guess I don't think anyone would actually search for Tagi. Instead they would go to Survivor: Borneo's page to look at it. Please comment back. Sigs broken but:TeckWizContribs_Guestbook 12:10, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Even though you might not think anyone would search for a specific Survivor tribe rather than the season itself, it is better to be safe than sorry. This is why we have redirects for misspellings, etc. The possible good of keeping the redirect far outweighs any reason for deleting it. --Nscheffey 12:24, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Per Big Brother 6

Is it good faith to assume bad faith without careful review? Ste4k 17:11, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe I did carefully review the article, and your comments on the AfD page seem to confirm what I feared: you are not using this AfD nom to actually delete the article, you are using it to draw attention to your beef with, I don't know, this television show, or all television shows. If you have problems with the article make a request for comment, or discuss it in WP:Notability, but don't nominate it for deletion when you know it won't be deleted. This is disturbing Misplaced Pages to make a point. --Nscheffey 17:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi, you haven't replied back in our conversation on my talk page about your nom of Big Brother series 6, and now another user has suggested a bad faith nom by you. I understand the ACIM issue is contentious, but AfD really isn't the place to deal with the problems you have with these pages. I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just trying to get a sense of your feelings on the subject. Do you agree that the Big Brother nom probably wasn't a good idea? Do you really want all of these pages deleted, or do you want them merged, cleaned up, or NPOVed? Just trying to open a dialogue. Thanks. --Nscheffey 09:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

These are two seperate issues. Regarding Big Brother, I retain my opinion, that an encyclopedia should list notable events that are historically accurate and important. I feel that too much time of too many editors is wasted bickering on that particular article. I also feel that the other editor purposely disregards factual matter in all previous articles. Whether or not it was appropriate to nominate the article as AfD has two sets of opinion. Perhaps you know of other television show articles, but for me, this is the only one that I am aware of.

and now another user has suggested a bad faith nom 

Before I reply to this, I'd like you to speak with that other user. I do not believe that he suggested a bad faith nom, nor do I believe that you understood him correctly. Be that as it may . . .

On the other topic, it matters nil to me about a single user that has an anonymous advocacy group behind his intents and his motives. I could easily take the time here to point out several personal attacks, etc, but the matter, in my opinion, has nothing to do with me personally; i.e. I prefer not to play games with immature individuals and bringing up any of his past harrassment issues would simply enflame rather than quench. He apparently believes that I am somehow associated with people of his past and User_talk:Andrew_Parodi#Importance_of_article he has not once acted in good faith with me, nor any of my comments. As a "cleanup" person, the manners in which I have in the past found systematic problem areas is probably unlike many others. Please see the comment by User:Superwad regarding one particular means by which I associate myself with articles near the bottom where he casts his vote to delete.

My chief concerns are with policy, disambiguity of the same, and for the encyclopedia on the whole, rather than any one article in particular. True, one may say that I have submitted several articles of one specific category to AfD, however, most of them were created by one author whom has yet to establish the reasons for creating the tree in the first place. It matters little to me whether the article exists or not. If it does exist, however, then it must adhere to policy and in that regard speak from a NPOV. Please see the comments of that author my talk page archives where he states that he refuses to cooperate for the betterment of the article on the whole. I believe that he may also be associated with this book and the company that produces it in a manner which is against the guidelines. I select the category ] for review, and find that he has been the original author of all of these articles within a short amount of time. It is my right as an editor to bring up this category for review by fellow editors, and I believe that doing so allows a consensus rather than if I were to begin edit warring, etc. Because I haven't been here that long, if there is another avenue for such matters, please point it out and consider me advised. I have already put that particular central article up for RfC, many of the rest I have cleaned up with Speedy Delete, and the rest should be given the due process and scrutiny.

That I happened upon this particular article was random chance. My interest in this particular article began when casually going through the AfD itself en masse, I came upon his article. I was under the impression that AfD entries were to be closed before they were removed, etc. and that they would last at least five days or something to that regard. This article's headers were removed and it was delisted from the AfD until I made a query about it on IRC to administrators there who corrected the problem. If the article about the book remains, that is fine with me, but it should be about the book and you can see my central concerns on that matter here.

I just noticed his first comment which is again made in bad faith. I will ignore it and move on to my other projects until later. I don't understand how User:Andrew Parodi has the right to "own" this article and his actions are gender offensive, calling me "buddy", in my opinion is simply rude. Ste4k 10:50, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, you haven't replied back yet about this matter and I would appreciate your concern. Thanks. Ste4k 05:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey, sorry it took a couple days to get back to you, been on vacation. OK, regarding the Big Brother nomination, which was speedily kept, I think you should realize that your view is in the very small minority. I think almost all wikipedians would agree that an article being the cause of much debate is not a reason to delete it. You said that "whether or not it was appropriate to nominate the article as AfD has two sets of opinion." I have yet to see an argument that this nomination was appropriate. Also, you said "perhaps you know of other television show articles, but for me, this is the only one that I am aware of." I'm not really sure what you meant by this, there are hundreds af articles about television shows. Almost every popular television show has it's own Thirdly, you said "I do not believe that he suggested a bad faith nom, nor do I believe that you understood him correctly." The quote in question was "it appears that the nomination of this page by Ste4k for deletion is a “bad faith” deletion attempt." I think I understood it correctly.

All of this relates to my larger issue, your misuse of the Article for Deletion process. I'm not prepared to dive into the ACIM debate, and I don't know what kind of personal problems you've had with other editors, but I think it's become very clear that your AfD noms were out of line. AfD is strictly for discussing whether or not an article merits inclusion in an encyclopedia, not whether it is contentious or poorly written. The only reason I even came across the ACIM controversy was that I was researching your other noms after being so surprised by the Big Brother nom. When I saw a similar pattern I decided to contact you. Just wanted to clear up this issue and make sure everyone is on the same page. As a final note, try to lighten up on the "gender offensive", "buddy" issue. It's hard to tell people's gender on the net, try to assume good faith. Thanks --Nscheffey 00:07, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that it is up to any one user to write the policies and that they have evolved over a period of time. The person you are speaking about with the gender issue, had already been told several times, and not only by me, to cease and desist. About the Big Brother article, per policy, it should not be on this encyclopedia. I don't think that any editor of experience should be assuming bad faith when the discussions haven't anything to do with personal issues. The other editor, that mentioned bad faith in ACIM was pointing out the possibility that I might be from some faction that doesn't like ACIM. I actually complimented him on his page regarding the statement since the possibility could exist. We discussed it and there was nothing more to it. Without doing any investigation of your own, such statements are rather blind, in my opinion. If you are telling me that policy doesn't really matter, then as far as AGF goes, it doesn't really matter either, does it. About NPOV and staying neutral, I don't think there is any pattern that you can justify about me at all, and none exists. I hadn't ever heard of ACIM before there were problems arising from their actions. I don't think you have taken the time while on vacation to notice all of the BF comments, changing people votes in AfD, and etc, that certain editors decided they needed to do in order to protect certain articles. None of that, however, stopped me from doing the research on the cited sources. And it turns out that the book itself is out of print, and that the acronym "ACIM" is a registered trademark. The court case that those citations left out filled in most of the blanks that showed that all of the rest of the cited sources were actually a close knit association and a single company. Either way, I don't play favorites, I only read the rules. Policy is first, followed by guidelines and not the other way around. Sure, you might say, that just isn't the reality around here, and that 90% of the entire encyclopedia doesn't meet spec. I can only answer that by saying that it doesn't meet spec because the policies are ignored. So basically, since I am still new, not even being here more than a couple weeks, the policy is the only thing that I can trust for sure that meets consensus. So I suggest that if you believe that I have some sort of problem with AfD, that you consult the policy again for yourself and make suggestions for rewriting it. AfD is not the place to be discussing changes in policy. About Big Brother, had I know that the other editor owned the page and that he was allowed to do so, I wouldn't have ever bothered to work on it. And had I known that it makes no sense to discuss an article like the documentation says, I wouldn't have ever bothered to reason with an irrational, unreasonable person. Ste4k 22:07, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

As others have noted , your writing style makes it hard to understand what you're saying. What I can make out seems very confused. OK, first you say "the Big Brother article, per policy, ... should not be on this encyclopedia." To what policy could you possibly be referring? Does that fact that the article was speedy kept mean anything to you?

Next you mentioned the other editor who accused you of a bad faith AfD nom, Andrew Parodi. You say he broght up the "possibility that might be from some faction that doesn't like ACIM," and that you "complimented him on his page regarding the statement." This is a patent falsehood, as proven by a glance at your edits to his talk page, none of which are complimentary to say the least. And the claim the "we discussed it and there was nothing more to it," is obscenely wrong, considering what actually came of it: he quit Misplaced Pages and you taunted him on the way out.

All of this worries me, since you seem to combine a flimsy grasp of policy with a stubborn and self righteous nature, a dangerous combination. Doesn't it concern you that at least six of your recent AfD noms have resulted in or are trending towards clear consensus keeps? Do you not feel that you may be in the wrong when the last three comments on your talk page concern problems with the AfD process, and now another editor has said on an AfD page that "Ste4k should be chastised for acting so dishonestly"? I guess this is to be expected from a user whose first contributions to wikipedia were attempting to insert information about a cursed newsgroup into the Curse article, and then edit warring over it, resulting in its current protection.

In conclusion, if you continue to misuse AfD I will open an RfC concerning your conduct. I think I have enough for a strong case already, but I'm willing to give you another chance. --Nscheffey 04:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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Your talking about the incorrect person.

You wrote: " Next you mentioned the other editor who accused you of a bad faith AfD nom, Andrew Parodi. " This is not the person to whom I referred. Thanks. Ste4k 07:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, it is the person to whom I referred in the original comment. Who could you have possibly thought I was referring to, seeing as I included a link to his comment? Did you not bother to follow the link before you replied that I didn't understand him correctly, or are so many editors suggesting bad faith noms by you that it's hard to keep them straight? Thanks. --Nscheffey 08:14, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Note the time of day, please. Thanks. Ste4k 09:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

This might also help jog your memory. Ste4k 09:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Ste4k you are one of the most confused/confusing people I have ever interacted with. Let me try to make this simple. When I ask you about another editor suggesting a bad faith nom by you, and then link to said accusation like so, I expect your replies to be concerning THAT EDITOR. The fact that you can't understand that is deeply disconcerting. Also, you have not replied to any of the points in my comment, which I would appreciate. Otherwise I will curse your userpage. --Nscheffey 20:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Otherwise I will curse your userpage

Explain this remark please. Thanks. Ste4k 20:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

A joke based on your preoccupation with cursed newsgroups.--Nscheffey 20:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Explain "joke" and why I should consider anything you have mentioned, anything other than hostile, please. Thanks. Ste4k 21:10, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Speedy Keep

Speedy Keep as per WP:POINT.--Nscheffey(T/C) 17:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC) Upon review I think this AfD nomination might be bad faith. The article's talk page shows that User:Ste4k has been involved in all manner of arguments over the tense of the page, reliable sources, etc, for a week, and now he puts the page up for deletion? Could this be an edit war gone nuclear? --Nscheffey(T/C) 15:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Please back this up now point by point with facts instead of questions. Let me make this simple as you made things simple for me.

• I. What review did you make?

a) How many questions are you prepared to answer regarding that review and how little time will be necessary for those answers to come forth?

b) What is the name of the user whom started the consensus?

c) What was the end result of the consensus?

d) How many points were left unanswered by user JD_UK?

e) According to the History in that article how many times had JD_UK actually committed different sets of 3RR?

f) How many times was he reported for that?

g) What the decision made regarding each of those reports?

h) How many users participated in the consensus?

i) Which user refused to participate in the consensus?

j) How many times has copyright violation occurred on that article?

1. Which violations regarded the photographs specifically?

2. Which violations regarded the article on the whole?

k) How many cited resources are actually used on that page?

l) Which user expressed indecision regarding whether or not the article was considered pure fiction?

• II. What specific characteristics of bad faith did you consider during your review?

a) Can you explain any assumption on your part of good faith on my part per that review of that article?

b) Can you justify your remarks considering the length of time I have been an editor on Misplaced Pages?

c) Can you compare and contrast your recent investigation of me personally to the investigation you performed regarding that article?

• III How accurate do you believe your above statement is?

a) Which specific arguments of mine in Discussion of that article regarding reliable sources are incorrect?

b) Which specific arguments of mine in Discussion of that article regarding tense are incorrect?

c) Which specific arguments of mine in Discussion of that article regarding tense varied from the consensus?

• IV How many users agreed that the page should be nominated for deletion before it was nominated?

Okay, my clock is running now, let's see what sort of review you actually made. I am sure that you will be able to answer all of these questions off of the top your head since you were thorough and haven't made any presumptions. About your earlier comments per what you expect me to reply to, please remember how much you pay me for a salary. Thanks. Ste4k 21:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Ste4k, Ste4k, Ste4k. You are starting to embarass yourself. I have watched you have similar arguments with other editors, and I have yet to see you show even the most basic understanding of policy, or even common decency. This sad list of question further illustrates your problems. None of your questions have anything to do with whether an article should be listed for deletion. It doesn't matter whether your arguments about tense were correct, or whether a user commited 3RR, or whether there were copy vio photos on the page. None of these are grounds for deletion! Why can't you understand that? Here's what happened: you nominated one article on one season of a popular TV show for deletion. It was speedily kept. What do you think this means concerning your nomination? Perhaps it was wrong, inappropriate, and a waste of everyone's time? At first I thought I was possibly wrong in suggesting bad faith, and maybe you were just a new user unfamiliar with AfD. But, due to your previous action, which I cited extensively above, I can see now that you are just confused and stubborn. You have never replied to any of my questions or comments, you have obscured the conversation by purposefully referring to an incorrect editor, and now you have posted this embarassing list of questions on my talk page. Ste4k, Ste4k, Ste4k, calm down, think for a second, and say it with me: "My nomination of Big Brother series 6 for deletion was a mistake and I'm sorry." See, don't you feel better now. I'll have my eye on you. Cheers. --Nscheffey 21:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to assume bad faith when dealing with other editors, you may be blocked from editing. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Misplaced Pages.

So in other words, you cannot answer these questions. Do you realize that you made your entire review in 32 minutes while also performing a complete review of WP:CORP, and looking for independant articles about the company Faceo? And you even had time to consider another editor's addition of factual information to an article vandalism? You are truly remarkable in your awesome powers of investigation. You also assume that it is okay to ignore people for days and then come back after the dust is cleared and pick things up again where you left off. I find it interesting that you would make changes to articles that you haven't the slightest clue about, and not leave any indication that you have read the Discussion or even participated in it. Have you ever bothered to read the bottom of WP:VER where Jimbo states it is better to have zero than misleading or false information? Why would you purposely INCLUDE something that is considered by several other editors to be POV? Please take the time in the future to assume good faith rather than make it your personal business to inadequately investigate other editors with prejuidice. Thanks. Ste4k 22:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

What the heck is wrong with you, seriously? The link you provided as my "reversion of factual information" is so clearly vandalism as to be comical. Seriously, was that a mistake? I've seen you misreference things and obfuscate discussions so much that I am now flabbergasted by your capacity for error. What is the deal? -Nscheffey 09:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

What comment?

You wrote: Also, you have not replied to any of the points in my comment, which I would appreciate.

What comment? Ste4k 21:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Why are you constantly confused? Obviously I was referring to my previous comment, found at the end of this section. Your one reply to said comment was the "incorrect editor" nonsense, another example of your mind boggling confusion. --Nscheffey 21:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

What makes you think that I read it? I read it now though. And you write: "In conclusion, if you continue to misuse AfD I will open an RfC concerning your conduct. I think I have enough for a strong case already, but I'm willing to give you another chance. --Nscheffey(T/C) 04:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)"

I have already addressed the fact that you believe that your interpretation of policy is the only correct interpretation. I think that the hubris required to pre-determine the outcome of an RfC in the same statement that you express doubt further demonstrates the inadequate lengths at which you have investigated anything. As an accuser, you should keep in mind that the burden of proof is on you and that I am neither required nor owe you any explanation. Ste4k 01:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

What made me think you read it is that generally people read someone's comments before they attempt to respond to them. And I don't believe my interpretation of policy is the only correct one, I just think your interpretation is obviously incorrect. And yes, you do owe everyone an explanation for your actions, Misplaced Pages works through reasoned discussion. Refusing to explain your actions (for example, you have yet to provide any rationale for your Big Brother nom) is contrary to the spirit of Misplaced Pages. --Nscheffey 02:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Please see the Big Brother section above on this discussion page. My rationale was explained, "These are two seperate issues. Regarding Big Brother, I retain my opinion, that an encyclopedia should list notable events that are historically accurate and important." Ste4k 08:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Does that fact that no one agrees with you (speedily kept) mean anything? Please god, I dare you to actually respond to any of my comments. Instead I'm sure you will post something like "Please be civil, assume good faith, and abide by WP:OR and WP:NPOV." Prove me wrong. --Nscheffey 09:23, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

The difference

You wrote: "I'll have my eye on you"

I want to make this very clear. The difference between what you are doing and what I am doing is that you are making me a personal issue, but I am making verifiabilty and original research an issue. About your comments regarding your opinon of my attitude please read this from WP:VER:

"Be careful not to err too far on the side of not upsetting other editors by leaving unsourced information in articles for too long, or at all in the case of information about living people. Jimmy Wales has said of this: "I can NOT emphasize this enough. There seems to be a terrible bias among some editors that some sort of random speculative 'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information is to be tagged with a 'needs a cite' tag. Wrong. It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced. This is true of all information, but it is particularly true of negative information about living persons.""

Ste4k 01:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

You are correct, I am making this a personal issue, since I have seen you misuse AfD, misquote policy, chase other editors off Misplaced Pages, and generally behave like a dick.--Nscheffey 02:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to assume bad faith when dealing with other editors, you may be blocked from editing. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Misplaced Pages. Ste4k 08:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

re: your latest addition

Adding unsourced information to an article is distinctly different than removing unsourced information from an article.

Per policy: Articles should contain only material that has been published by reputable sources. Editors adding new material to an article should cite a reputable source, or it may be removed by any editor. The obligation to provide a reputable source lies with the editors wishing to include the material, not on those seeking to remove it.

In the future, please provide reputable sources that justify the link that you provided. And please assume good faith. Thank you. Ste4k 08:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Ste4k, chill out. Both of those links obviously belong in the article and your attempt to remove them has been reverted by another editor. You need to seriously calm down, you are not making any friends with your behavior. --Nscheffey 08:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Please review this and reconsider your actions from an objective viewpoint. Thanks. Ste4k 08:50, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Please, please, for once, make a cogent argument as to why these links should not be in the article. I am familiar with all of the policies you have linked to, and I still see no basis for many of your actions. I'm also not the only one to think so. You need to calm down and be reasonable. --Nscheffey 09:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I am not uncalm. I don't know why you would think I am. I don't know this man, and I don't dislike him, and I don't like him either way, he is just another human. He was involved in a one-million dollar law-suit. I think that if he knew that you purposely just added a direct link associating his biography (as an author) to a book that he didn't write, and he was sued a million dollars over, that he would probably make it worth some litigation on the part of the encyclopedia if he was so inclined. Don't you? If you have not been reading the ongoing conversation, then please do so since it is at least four or five screens long now. Thanks. Ste4k 09:17, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Not only have I read the talk page, I've commented on it. The link to ACIM should be on there because he was involved in a one million dollar law suit over it. That makes it relevent to the article. What about that don't you understand? I have yet to see you directly reply to a point I (or any one else) have made. Try it. --Nscheffey 09:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Your statement is incorrect. He was not involved in a one million dollar law suit over that book. He was involved in a one million dollar law suit for his book, a different book, one which does not have the content that the book you are pointing/associating him with has. At the time of the lawsuit the book that you are pointing to did not even yet exist. Now that I have responded to your point please be kind enough to respond to mine. I think that if he knew that you purposely just added a direct link associating his biography (as an author) to a book that he didn't write, and he was sued a million dollars over, that he would probably make it worth some litigation on the part of the encyclopedia if he was so inclined. Don't you? Ste4k 10:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

First you say he was "not involved in a one million dollar law suit over that book", then you say that I added a link to a book that "he was sued a million dollars over." This is within the same comment. Do you see how I have trouble following your logic? The point is, he is associated with the ACIM movement because of this lawsuit. A link to the ACIM page deserves to be in this article. Your idea that he would litigate over this link and so we shouldn't include it is lunacy. --Nscheffey 10:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

re: the section recently added

Please stop attacking other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Ste4k 02:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC) Please don't communicate with me through templates. It is a dick thing to do. And if you must use templates instead of thoughts, at least substitute them with "subst:". --Nscheffey 03:02, 6 July 2006 (UTC)