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Hey. Welcome to my talk page. It's a place where you can leave me messages. Please do not leave templates unless it is absolutely necessary. See also the essay WP:TEMPLAR. I am a lady, so please do use female pronouns, but I won't fault you for not doing so accidentally. (I can be a bit masculine sometimes!) But anywho, don't hesitate to give me some critiques, invoke some discussion, or anything like it! Thanks.

List of music considered the worst

Users are continually removing Sgt. Pepper from this list on the grounds that the Beatles are beyond criticism. You yourself were involved in restoring this material after a sweeping deletion. Can anything be done to stop this happening? Thanks.

Human licking his hand

It's a joke image and a distraction to the article. Okeado (talk) 19:26, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Infobox musical artist

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a little sanity

I came over here from Wale's talk page. Good to hear a female voice that does not scream "misogyny" or whatever over every little thing. Stuff like that diminishes the real deal. Is the drawing of Supergirl childish and silly? sure.... But it should be discussed like anything else, not hidden from view.Thelmadatter (talk) 19:04, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! But for clarification, I do think that having the image of the woman's chest was inappropriate, but I can understand why it was put there in the first place. Power Girl is partially known for her big bust...they decided to portray a big bust since there were no other free images (but now that I see they replaced the image with an innocuous DC symbol,) which is fine. What I was not fine with is that the image which we were supposed to be discussing is removed...how are we supposed to criticize something if we can't see it? I also don't think anybody's sexist for putting the image there in the first place, just made an honest mistake. Tutelary (talk) 19:11, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

I should have made it clear but that it what I agree with. Thelmadatter (talk) 21:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ralph Drollinger

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Bbb23's violation of community consensus / other violations of administrator conduct

Despite your civil request on Bbb23's Talk page, Bbb23 has so far ignored it. Please let me know whether you will be talking this issue to the AN or to Arbitration. Since this issue was already decided at the AN, and Bbb23 acted soon afterward to reject that consensus despite his/her involvement, perhaps the logical step would be to take it to WP:Arbitration with a request to review Bbb23's administrator conduct (per Administrators#Expectations_of_adminship) and to consider possible sanctions or de-sysop. Of course, I would be happy to assist in providing relevant historical diffs re Bbbs23 biased actions against me and other editors. Thanks. Memills (talk) 16:37, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

@Memills:, could you email me? Tutelary (talk) 20:06, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Memills (talk) 20:13, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

I have mentioned you Tutelary at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Bbb23.27s_conduct_in_enforcing_article_probation. --Pudeo' 04:31, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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CFK editing

Hello, I'm Ruizhernan and you have left me a message at my talk page. I'm a newbie in terms of editing articles in Misplaced Pages, so I'd greatly appreciate your help.

You say that I removed some content "without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an edit summary."

As I understand, I did explain why. I used the "Edit summary" box to explain that I was removing content that was absolutely biased.

I visited the article's talk page first, and I saw that there were 2 opposing views, let's call them A and B. A's claim that any edit they have done has been reversed by B's, whereas B's say that A's are free to edit if they wish.

I also notice that you removed the npov tag I put. Can you explain why you did that? If this was a mistake, don't worry - I'll put it back right away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruizhernan (talk • contribs) 22:01, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

@Ruizhernan: That's not a valid explanation, specially when you deleted a large number of bits from the article. If you believe the page is in need of some kind of improving (which article doesn't?) you can raise your concerns at the article's talk rather than mass removing content. Furthermore, you provided no reasons for the placement of the {{NPOV}} tag.--Jetstreamer  00:11, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

@Jetstreamer: As you are well aware, the article's talk is no way to improve the article. Many people have attempted that, but you and Cambalachero won't reach a consensus with anyone. The two of you agree that " are reliable if they have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, editorial oversight, and no evident conflict of interest involved." But you had earlier said that " qualify as reliable sources. Period." Either you are seriously ill-informed about Clarín and La Nación, or you don't know what a conflict of interests means, or you are totally biased in your opinions. I'm doing as you say. I'll edit the article according to Misplaced Pages's principles. I won't remove content. I'll just add content, and you won't be able to delete it. And one more thing, you say I didn't provide reasons for the placement of the NPOV tag. Here you demonstrate you're biased once again, because to anyone with the slightest knowledge about Argentinian politics, the article is OBVIOUSLY biased.

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Rick Perry mugshot

Hello. Your rational directly contradicts this guideline and WP:NFCI #8 which says historical photos of famous people is a rational for fair use and even uses it as an example. There are other things wrong with that photo - but I intend to fix them. However, a historic photo that cannot be recreated of a BLP is allowed in the context of an article about that event.--v/r - TP 01:37, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. You can't use non free media of BLPs when the images are easily replacable. The 'historical' portion doesn't apply as it's not a historical image. A good exampl of that 'historical use' would be the non free media claim for the article 'Dewey defeats Truman'. Truman is no longer alive so it's allowed. It can't be applied here because of . Perry is a public figure and there are free images which would suffice. Tutelary (talk) 01:44, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

It is a historical image. It is an event - you cannot replace images that happened once. This photo is irreplaceable and the photo itself is covered in multiple reliable sources discussing the photo itself to include his tie, his smirk, his missing glasses, his hair, the lack of numbers, ect. This meets the NFCC.--v/r - TP 01:49, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

These sources are about the mugshot itself and discussing the contents of: Yahoo News "Perry’s mug shot, released by the Austin Police Department, quickly inspired a meme", HotAir "It didn’t hurt that Perry showed up for his close-up groomed, well dressed and ready for prime time.", Texas Monthly "He wears a dark suit and a smart blue tie, holds up no numbers, and gives a practiced headshot-taker's confident smile—they even got him from his best angle.", The Chron "A smirking Perry posed sans glasses for the camera, and the resulting photo has gone viral overnight.", ABC News "The question is, did Rick Perry take his mugshot with all the gubernatorial swagger expected of his office? And how does his mugshot stack up to the governor’s official portrait?"--v/r - TP 01:56, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

BLP vio

Sweeping attack claiming against others, revert it again and we'll see how it fits WP:NOTFORUM and attacks against others. No source for that. Dreadstar ☥ 03:03, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Are you freakin' kidding me Dreadstar? You can't edit other users' comments just because you don't like what they think or say. It's -not- an 'attack' against others, it's anything but, it's coming to the defence of Zoe Quinn and I'm absolutely freakin' irritated that you're trying to claim it as such. Additionally, you are implying my edits as vandalism with rollback; You are to leave an edit summary if you are reverting a good faith contribution. Tutelary (talk) 03:05, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Blocked you for 31 hours for edit warring to restore what I consider to be a violation of WP:NOTFORUM and unsourced attack on others, thus violating NPA and BLP. I'm not playing games on either side of these articles. Dreadstar ☥ 03:06, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Out of good faith, I'll reverse this block, but I think calling the 'attacks' as being made by misogynists to be an unsourced attack - even if I agree that indeed it's the truth. I really expect better of the editors here. Dreadstar ☥ 03:12, 29 August 2014 (UTC)