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This RM has dragged on long enough, has no consensus whatsoever, and needs to be closed. ] — ] 19:46, 13 September 2014 (UTC) This RM has dragged on long enough, has no consensus whatsoever, and needs to be closed. ] — ] 19:46, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
:::''(my remark here was removed here on 13 September 2014, 23:30 by a user on basis of his/her opinion that "it is not relevant")''--] (]) 23:58, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
:: Do not agree. The request for closure is based on agenda pushing to downplay the the direct role of Russia in this war. And portray this war as much as possible as a internal Ukrainian civil war. While '''neutral''' organisations as Amnesty International label the war as an '''International''' war between Russia and Ukraine providing direct evidence for this. We should let time go by, so new/more evidence can clarify the extend of Russian participation and role in this war and preceding unrest. Also Russia admitted it's military involvment in the takeover of Crimea after denying it for more than a month. This will probably also happen after a while with it's participation in the eastern Russian-border region of Ukraine. --] (]) 22:00, 13 September 2014 (UTC)


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    Template talk:Citation#RFC: Same rules for CS1 and Citation

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:Citation#RFC: Same rules for CS1 and Citation (initiated 30 April 2014)? The opening poster wrote:

    As a side-effect of using Module:Citation/CS1 to render the Citation template, all the warning messages issued for Citation Style 1 will now be issued for Citation. (Many of these warning messages are not turned on by default yet.) This means that editors who use the Citation template will have to consult Help:Citation Style 1 to determine the acceptable parameter values. Does the user community ratify this change?

    Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:44, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

    This does not appear to require administration, thus I recommend finding a template-editor to assess and close it. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 02:34, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
    Comment Now archived at Template talk:Citation/Archive 7#RFC: Same rules for CS1 and Citation. Armbrust 19:27, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

    Template talk:USRepSuccessionBox#RfC regarding ceremonial seniority position

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:USRepSuccessionBox#RfC regarding ceremonial seniority position (initiated 27 June 2014)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ireland#RfC North Tipperary and South Tipperary categorical tree structure

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ireland#RfC North Tipperary and South Tipperary categorical tree structure (initiated 28 June 2014)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

    Comment Now archived at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ireland/Archive 17#RfC North Tipperary and South Tipperary categorical tree structure. Armbrust 06:01, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 May 2#Category:Comprehensive schools in London

    Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 May 2#Category:Comprehensive schools in London? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 2#Category:Several categories related to women clergy

    Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 2#Category:Several categories related to women clergy? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Archive.is RFC 3

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Archive.is RFC 3 (initiated 26 June 2014)? The discussion is listed at Template:Centralized discussion. In your close, please consider the previous discussions related to archive.is:

    1. Misplaced Pages talk:Link rot#Archive.is (initiated 17 September 2012)
    2. Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 104#Replacing WebCite citations with archive.is citations (initiated 24 July 2013)
    3. Misplaced Pages:Bot owners' noticeboard/Archive 8#RotlinkBot approved? (initiated 18 August 2013)
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    5. Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive812#Mass rollbacks required (initiated 17 September 2013)
    6. Misplaced Pages:Archive.is RFC (initiated 20 September 2013)
    7. Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive813#Sophisticated mass vandalism from IP ranges? (initiated 2 October 2013)
    8. Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)/Archive 119#Proposal to Reduce the API limits to 1 edit/30 sec. for logged out users (initiated 2 October 2013)
    9. Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive255#WP:Archive.is RFC request for admin review of closure (initiated 31 October 2013)
    10. MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2014/03#archive.is/T5OAy (initiated 23 November 2013)
    11. MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/December 2013#archive.is (initiated 3 December 2013)
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    13. Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive261#Archive.is headache (initiated 8 May 2014)
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    18. Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive846#New Account Using AWB to Remove Links to archive.is based "the RFC" (initiated 1 July 2014)
    19. Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Δ/Werieth#Followup discussion about archive.is links (2 July 2014)

    Here are discussions with the Misplaced Pages:Archive.is RFC closer:

    1. User talk:Hobit#Archive.is RFC closure unclear and permanent link (initiated 31 October 2013)
    2. User talk:Hobit#Question re: Misplaced Pages:Archive.is RFC and permanent link (initiated 11 November 2013)
    3. User talk:Hobit#Archive.is and permanent link (initiated 12 February 2014)
    4. User talk:Hobit#Archive.is matter and permanent link (initiated 19 May 2014)

    Thanks, Cunard (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

    There is discussion going on, but I think those can be moved to somewhere else.Forbidden User (talk) 08:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
    I think it might be best to wait a little bit more for results from Chris's email. I know I'm waiting to update my views based on it as well as the email correspondense link. I imagine I am not the only one. PaleAqua (talk) 16:24, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
    It's been almost a week with no real discussion and no updates. Withdrawing my wait request. PaleAqua (talk) 06:18, 8 August 2014 (UTC)


    Template talk:Cite doi#RfC: Should Template:cite doi cease creating a separate subpage for each DOI?

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:Cite doi#RfC: Should Template:cite doi cease creating a separate subpage for each DOI? (initiated 9 July 2014)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:49, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

    Talk:2014 Israeli raids on UNRWA schools#RfC: Should this article contain the section "other UNRWA incidents"?

    Can someone close this? Nobody has replied for some days, and the consensus is unclear. This is perhaps because I did not phrase the question precisely. Kingsindian (talk) 11:16, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Assistance requested at Fringe Theories Noticeboard

    Will an administrator please assess the consensus at this proposal for a topic ban on the creation of new articles by User:Aditya soni in article space? Robert McClenon (talk) 14:06, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

    Now archived at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive853#Assistance requested at Fringe Theories Noticeboard. Armbrust 06:07, 5 September 2014‎ (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Topic Ban Review (2nd Attempt)

    Will am administrator please assess the consensus on this request by User:HighKing to ease the topic ban? Robert McClenon (talk) 14:06, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

    Comment Now archived at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive853#Topic Ban Review (2nd Attempt) 2. Armbrust 09:09, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

    Talk:Governorship of Chris Christie#RFC: Should material about the New Jersey Public School system be included in the article?

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Governorship of Chris Christie#RFC: Should material about the New Jersey Public School system be included in the article? (initiated 27 July 2014)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

    Talk:Ralph Drollinger#RfC: How much emphasis to place on Capitol Ministries?

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Ralph Drollinger#RfC: How much emphasis to place on Capitol Ministries? (initiated 2 August 2014)? The opening poster wrote:

    This article has been subject to disputed editing over how much space to devote to Capitol Ministries – see this revision vs the current. We need to gain consensus on how much detail to include, so all comments invited. I won't structure this yet as I have no idea..am only trying to admin this.

    Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Should the hidden navbar be removed from the base Stub and WikiProject banner templates?

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Should the hidden navbar be removed from the base Stub and WikiProject banner templates? (initiated 30 July 2014)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

    Comment Now archived at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 113#RfC: Should the hidden navbar be removed from the base Stub and WikiProject banner templates?. Armbrust 06:46, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 14#Category:Surnames by culture

    Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 14#Category:Surnames by culture? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 14#Category:Years by topic

    Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 14#Category:Years by topic? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 14#Category:Categories by year

    Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 14#Category:Categories by year? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 15#Category:All Misplaced Pages vital articles in Biology and health sciences

    Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 15#Category:All Misplaced Pages vital articles in Biology and health sciences? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 15#Category:Dates in music

    Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 15#Category:Dates in music? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Albums/Album article style guide#RfC: Should participants in the personnel section be ordered alphabetically?

    Would an uninvolved admin please assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Albums/Album article style guide#RfC: Should participants in the personnel section be ordered alphabetically? (first initiated 27 July 2014)? Thanks! Rationalobserver (talk) 17:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

    Talk:Whitehouse Institute of Design#RfC

    Long discussion, open for over 30 days, now, requiring closure by an admin or uninvloved, experienced editor. Thanks. Begoon  02:59, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

    Talk:2014 Russian military intervention in Ukraine#Requested move to Russo-Ukrainian War

    This RM has dragged on long enough, has no consensus whatsoever, and needs to be closed. RGloucester — ☎ 19:46, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

    (my remark here was removed here on 13 September 2014, 23:30 by a user on basis of his/her opinion that "it is not relevant")--Niele (talk) 23:58, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
    Do not agree. The request for closure is based on agenda pushing to downplay the the direct role of Russia in this war. And portray this war as much as possible as a internal Ukrainian civil war. While neutral organisations as Amnesty International label the war as an International war between Russia and Ukraine providing direct evidence for this. We should let time go by, so new/more evidence can clarify the extend of Russian participation and role in this war and preceding unrest. Also Russia admitted it's military involvment in the takeover of Crimea after denying it for more than a month. This will probably also happen after a while with it's participation in the eastern Russian-border region of Ukraine. --Niele (talk) 22:00, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:SchroCat and User:Cassianto

    This thread has been open since 6 September, and there have been no comments in well-over 48 hours. Could a non-involved and neutral admin assess this thread to see if consensus has been reached, with a view to closing? Thanks – SchroCat (talk) 21:26, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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