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I do hope you'll read this...
Leaving over the loss of a flag would just be silly. Let's take what's happened at AN/I as a learning experience and look at the overall picture. Very few of your 149,000+ edits required the use of that flag. Rollback doesn't define you as an editor - your edits do, and those are much much more important. Please reconsider? Dusti 02:44, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Sad to see you go...
For what it's worth I think that incident could not have been handled more poorly and am 100% in favor of you receiving your flag back if you should decide to return. —Frosty ☃ 04:57, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Sadly, it's just another example of admin overreach. Flyer22 did not misuse the rollback tool, but ProtonK removed it anyway. What did s/he think would happen when a provocative action like that is taken? There was no reason to remove the tool, and I can completely understand Flyer22's frustration (and even retirement) with the fact that another editor was allowed to simply remove the tool without any real evidence of misuse. Until admins realize that they're just regular editors with a few extra buttons, and not Team Misplaced Pages Project Police, good editors will continue to leave the project. LHM 03:15, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- It was a mistake but did look like a misuse from the reaction. There was no overreach here. Both parries did what they thought was right.--Mark Miller (talk) 11:24, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- There was plenty of admin overreach in this circumstance, as well as many others. Not sure what you're trying to accomplish on this page. LHM 14:28, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- It was a mistake but did look like a misuse from the reaction. There was no overreach here. Both parries did what they thought was right.--Mark Miller (talk) 11:24, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
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Regardless of your ultimate decision, I wanted to let you know you are one of the best editors I've encountered here. You've always been kind to me, mentoring me as I learned, and an invaluable resource for all sexuality-related pages. I do hope you return, but if not, I wish you all the best. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 05:09, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
I agree. I watch several sexuality-related pages for vandalism and I have seen your valuable edits to them, which doubtless greatly increased their quality. I almost always learn something new when I see your edits. I hope that you eventually return. Best wishes, BethNaught (talk) 11:08, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
I am sad to see you leave. You are one of the most valuable people on this project. With the many amazing things you have done for wikipedia. To only get a double slap in the face of two administrators. For the reason I do not like your style and attitude with me. So I will slap you. Why? Because I can. Instead of thinking hey this an editor with over 150k edits, 7 years of experience, and held in high regard by the community. maybe we should talk this through a bit more and in the end maybe even agree to disagree. I might leave as well if admins can do this without consequences. NathanWubs (talk) 13:44, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
(ec) Very sad to see you go. I wish I arrived in time to comment in the AN/I thread. Thank you so much for your hard work and your help, Flyer22. There's some rich irony in the AN/I discussion; we must be extra nice to newbies but apparently our established editors with 150,000 contributions get a whole nother kind of treatment. Who will take up the slack and keep an eye on sexuality-related pages now that you're gone? --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 14:03, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Your rollback rights have been restored
Good news:
- 05:27, September 21, 2014 Euryalus (talk | contribs) changed group membership for User:Flyer22 from pending changes reviewer to pending changes reviewer and rollbacker (Per consensus at AN/I thread.)
Congrats! -- Brangifer (talk) 05:44, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- It certainly reminded me of sledgehammers and nuts. -Roxy the dog™ (resonate) 05:47, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- This was certainly an overreaction of the heavy handed type. There was no attempt to AGF and err on the side of mercy. It's good that reason won out in the end. -- Brangifer (talk) 05:52, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- And it has apparently cost the project a good editor. Yet nothing at all will be done to rein in admin's like Protonk who take such hasty actions. And I'm still very interested in what caused Protonk to audit Flyer22's use of rollbacker to begin with. LHM 05:54, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Came here to provide a notification, but others beat me to it. Closing comments are here and happy to discuss if required. Euryalus (talk) 05:56, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yah! Now you can get back to what you're best at: editing important articles and educating the rest of us about policy. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 06:04, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Came here to provide a notification, but others beat me to it. Closing comments are here and happy to discuss if required. Euryalus (talk) 05:56, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- And it has apparently cost the project a good editor. Yet nothing at all will be done to rein in admin's like Protonk who take such hasty actions. And I'm still very interested in what caused Protonk to audit Flyer22's use of rollbacker to begin with. LHM 05:54, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- This was certainly an overreaction of the heavy handed type. There was no attempt to AGF and err on the side of mercy. It's good that reason won out in the end. -- Brangifer (talk) 05:52, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Glad to see this was seen as just the mistake it was. I feel slightly awkward that I was used as the catalyst for this. Can't say you were completely without fault...nor should anyone as you did call a legitimate edit, proven to be accurate, vandalism. But it isn't as if other, even in administration, don't take leaps with our policies. I actually do assume good faith an trust you honestly felt that was vandalism. But I want to at least caution you that vandalism as an accusation hurts those that are wrongly accused...as much as it must have hurt you to have the rollback riht removed. But I also temper that with my knowledge of your outstanding work. Happy editing!--Mark Miller (talk) 11:05, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Resilient Barnstar | |
While it appears that I missed much of what transpired as I do not often look at the drama boards. Hope to see you back to keep up your good work. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:52, 21 September 2014 (UTC) |
A barnstar for you!
The Editor's Barnstar | |
Hate to see such a good content editor leave over an administrator (once again) thinking that their adminship is a badge to police regular editors, rather than just a few extra tools. LHM 15:55, 21 September 2014 (UTC) |