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| Hi Fae, it's vinesh from Imperial College here. Can I ask if you are available for an email thread to discuss the surgical instruments project we have going on and Toni approached you about? I tried to email you from this page, it didn't work. Could you please send me an email through my login? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:31, 5 September 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | Hi Fae, it's vinesh from Imperial College here. Can I ask if you are available for an email thread to discuss the surgical instruments project we have going on and Toni approached you about? I tried to email you from this page, it didn't work. Could you please send me an email through my login? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:31, 5 September 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
| == Chevalier d'Eon == | |||
| Thanks for making this RfC, but I would suggest a more neutral wording if you don't mind. The relevant policy has nothing to do with ], but rather with ]. An RfC might not be particularly effective, because the questions are two-fold. The first question is whether or not the manual of style's policy on identity can really be said to apply in this situation, since d'Eon existed before anyone had such a concept as "gender identity", and there are tactical reasons why she would have chosen to live as a woman no matter what her preferred gender. Assuming that she is ''not'' covered by this, the further question is what pronouns to use. I'd say we should adjust the RfC statement to be simpler, "The Chevalier d'Éon, was an 18th century French diplomat, spy and soldier, whose first 49 years were spent as a man, and whose last 33 years were spent as a woman. Given the specific facts of her life, should her life as a woman be considered an expressed gender identification according to the ]?" Generally RfCs are supposed to address exactly one question, and since if d'Eon's life as a woman can be considered an expression of gender identity that moots the second question (which pronouns to use and when), that's the question we should ask. If it comes down that this is a special ("edge") case, then hopefully people from the RfC will stick around to hash out the pronoun question. | |||
| I put this on your talk page rather than in the discussion there because I didn't want to clutter up the discussion (I find that the more "blocks of text" you get in RfCs, the less likely you are to get robust participation). Please let me know if you take issue with this wording.] ]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>] 17:32, 20 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :There have been a couple of comments already, so I'll take a look at how to amend, probably this weekend. --] (]) 08:46, 21 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for adding your note in the RfC. I'll park this on the assumption that this will be sufficient, though I have no problem if you want to rewrite it and sign under your name. Real life has made me more unavailable this week than I was expecting. --] (]) 15:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, totally understandable. I'm trying to wrangle the RfC as best I can to a decision about the substantive issues. At this point there's quite a few comments, so no point closing the barn doors after the horses have escaped. We seem to have a decent amount of eyes on the article, though, so hopefully we can come to some consensus during the duration of the RfC. If it's not satisfactorily resolved at that point, I'll just make a second, more focused RfC to clean up anything on which the consensus is unclear.] ]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>] 16:05, 23 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Surgical discussion
Hi Fae, it's vinesh from Imperial College here. Can I ask if you are available for an email thread to discuss the surgical instruments project we have going on and Toni approached you about? I tried to email you from this page, it didn't work. Could you please send me an email through my login? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinnypatel (talk • contribs) 12:31, 5 September 2014 (UTC)