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- I have responded to your concerns in an email to your AOL account. Please consider the contents of my email and follow up as I request. I hope to be able to improve the referencing on the article Hal Moore in the future. To answer your immediate concerns, I have removed the reference to Brown University a I was able to locate a reference that states that General Moore graduated from George Washington University. I have also corrected the Harvard information to George Washington and added citations to the same. I am interested in making the article accurate, but need references to do so. Regards. Cuprum17 (talk) 19:39, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
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Knew I forgot something, added the reference tags for that one section Bwmoll3 (talk) 23:26, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
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- It wasn't a revert. I assumeD WP:AGF. In any event, I see your point on the citation, and think we should address it; but we should at least reference the book. i know you'll make appropriate changes. The savate I find wholy credible. My uncle was an MP in World War II, and got similar training from Yank Levy, the world's dirtiest fighter." As an MP, he had a confrontation with a championship professional fighter, who he rendered unconscious. But a real look at the book would be great. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:45, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- Two different versions with two different coauthors, I think. I put both of those in, and I didn't just make it up. Found it somewhere on line at the time. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:41, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- wikicheck Autobib for the ISBN shown in the article shows: "Dempsey, Jack, and Frank G. Menke. How to fight tough. Boulder, Colo: Paladin Press, 2002. Print." But if you google "Dempsey How to Fight Tough PDF" you will find another coauthor. For those who are MMA devotees, this is deemed to be a very worthwhile book. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 03:12, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- Two different versions with two different coauthors, I think. I put both of those in, and I didn't just make it up. Found it somewhere on line at the time. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:41, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you. I's good ot have an unbiased set of eyes look at this. I've been editing it for so long that I can't see it anymore. Lose the forest for the leaves. So to speak. I am also out of ideas on hoiw to expand the article. The WP:DYK seems so close and yet so far. That gets counted and what doesn't is very frustrating. This article has been substantially improved, but getting it to a 5X expansion has been problematical. I knew that when I started, and this proves that one should not have false hopes. there are some sources that are mentioned in the article, including he obituaries, and the magizine articles, but I just don't have them. Oh well. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:57, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
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The term "National Guard" is proper noun. It is always capitalized. In the way that the term, "Marine" is always capitalized. The reserve is not a proper noun and thus is not capitalized. Please revert your change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srithikdatta (talk • contribs) 22:52, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- As used in the sentence, I believe that the term "national guard" not capitalized. If you can quote some style book that says that the term should always be capitalized then I will revert my edit, however, I can't guarantee that some other editor won't change the term to small letters in the future. The term "Marine" is sometime capitalized (mostly by Marines) and sometimes not...it depends on the style book used by the writer. (the AP stylebook says no.) In my opinion, the term "National Guard" looks strange placed beside the term "reserves" in the same sentence. I was one of those "reservists" called up for Operation Noble Eagle and we played every bit of an important part in the scheme of things as my brother's "national guard" unit which was also called up after September 11. The national guard is not one big cohesive unit, rather it is a term used to describe the 54 state or territory controlled militias in the organized reserves of the United States Armed Forces. The debate on capitalization will go on in Misplaced Pages for a long time. Find a source for your statement and I will revert. Cuprum17 (talk) 23:17, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- The entity of the National Guard is overseen by the National Guard Bureau (both the Army and Air components). There is no parallel organization for the reserve components. So the National Guard is cohesive unit. All TAGs of state National Guard HQs are overseen by the NGB. In regards to it looking weird...well that's just how it is. Even in government documents troops are referred to as soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines. If can't be found in the dictionary, it capitalized. Even if the Marine arugment doesn't stand. Marine is one word, which is now found in the dictionary. The National Guard is a two word title and thus obviously has to be capitalized. You can change the wording to "guardsmen" and "reservists" if you prefer but if you use the words "National Guard", it has to be capitalized.
- I don't necessarily agree, but I will revert rather than carry out a back and forth discussion that doesn't accomplish much in adding the sum total knowledge of Misplaced Pages. In the meantime, please learn to sign your comments here and else on Misplaced Pages with the use of four "~" characters after your posts. SineBot will sign for you, but you should get in the habit of doing it yourself as SineBot doesn't always pickup the contexts. Cuprum17 (talk) 23:39, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
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On Talk:819th Strategic Aerospace Division you apparently forgot to change the assessments when you reviewed the article. (I've missed the talk page edit twice myself on stuff I did in this month's backlog reduction drive, so no problem.) --Lineagegeek (talk) 22:58, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Corrected my error. Sorry about that, it got lost in the shuffle. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. See your talk page for my comment, Brother. Cuprum17 (talk) 00:45, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
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- Thank you for your thoughtfulness! Fr. Kapaun is one of the articles I patrol both as a member of the Military History Project and Project Kansas. I am amazed at the selflessness he displayed in his short military career and was thrilled to learn of his posthumous award of the Medal of Honor. I am not Catholic so I don't know much about the process for sainthood, but if anyone should be eligible it would be Fr. Kapaun. His care of fellow soldiers was heroic and selfless. I will attempt to put the citations together for the article so the bare urls are cited uniformly at some point in the future. Again, thank you for your encouragement. BTW, I loved your Barry Goldwater userbox so much I copied it to my user page!!!Cuprum17 (talk) 18:04, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Chief, thank you for your service. Although not Misplaced Pages related may I suggest to you a source of interesting reading, CIMSEC.
- Are you working to get the article on Fr. Kapaun to GA?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:38, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- No, not at this time...I don't consider myself experienced enough to do GA work, although I do have one GA article to my credit. It was very difficult to get that one article to GA and took an enormous effort to get all the right bells and whistles in the right place and still do my off-Wiki responsibilities. I am comfortable with doing B class work for now and have successfully done many of those, mostly ships articles. Biographies are harder, although I have done several of those also. Right now I would as a intermediate goal like to bring the Kapaun article up to B class a little at a time...and although I am comfortable with the details of his military service, my ignorance of the effort by the Catholic Church to name him as a saint leaves me somewhat apprehensive about tackling the job. After I get the citations uniformly cleaned up, would you be willing to assist me in getting the article to B class? Perhaps, if it were accepted as B class we could work on a GA together on this article at some point in the future? I would really like to see the article as a GA, because I admire the man and his actions...anyway, it is something to consider. Thank you for the CIMSEC link, I found it very interesting and it may even help me in some future Misplaced Pages articles... Cuprum17 (talk) 19:47, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- CIMSEC is an association of active duty, retired, and other interested areas which the group writes about. I don't know if they'd pass WP:IRS, they do have an editorial board, but they aren't as well known as Jane's or USNI. But perhaps even if they can't be directly used, they can point us towards useful RSs (as what they write is opinion and analysis).
- Passing GA review is not as difficult as you might think, but you're right it does take considerable effort, often more than fifty plus edits to get an article, to a point of being a GA. For instance look at LTG Benjamin Freakley, I was able to get it to GA in 34 edits.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:07, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- No, not at this time...I don't consider myself experienced enough to do GA work, although I do have one GA article to my credit. It was very difficult to get that one article to GA and took an enormous effort to get all the right bells and whistles in the right place and still do my off-Wiki responsibilities. I am comfortable with doing B class work for now and have successfully done many of those, mostly ships articles. Biographies are harder, although I have done several of those also. Right now I would as a intermediate goal like to bring the Kapaun article up to B class a little at a time...and although I am comfortable with the details of his military service, my ignorance of the effort by the Catholic Church to name him as a saint leaves me somewhat apprehensive about tackling the job. After I get the citations uniformly cleaned up, would you be willing to assist me in getting the article to B class? Perhaps, if it were accepted as B class we could work on a GA together on this article at some point in the future? I would really like to see the article as a GA, because I admire the man and his actions...anyway, it is something to consider. Thank you for the CIMSEC link, I found it very interesting and it may even help me in some future Misplaced Pages articles... Cuprum17 (talk) 19:47, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your thoughtfulness! Fr. Kapaun is one of the articles I patrol both as a member of the Military History Project and Project Kansas. I am amazed at the selflessness he displayed in his short military career and was thrilled to learn of his posthumous award of the Medal of Honor. I am not Catholic so I don't know much about the process for sainthood, but if anyone should be eligible it would be Fr. Kapaun. His care of fellow soldiers was heroic and selfless. I will attempt to put the citations together for the article so the bare urls are cited uniformly at some point in the future. Again, thank you for your encouragement. BTW, I loved your Barry Goldwater userbox so much I copied it to my user page!!!Cuprum17 (talk) 18:04, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Part of RC sainthood process is documenting a miraculous act and the mere saving of lives might not be enough.66.74.176.59 (talk) 11:53, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- To respond to your comment on my talk page about Emil Kapaun:
Part of RC sainthood process is documenting a miraculous act and the mere saving of lives might not be enough.
66.74.176.59 (talk) 11:53, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- You have to realize that I am not the only editor that has worked on that article and the interest that I have in the article relates to his military career and his relationship with the state of Kansas. I have no interest in or knowledge of Catholic Church practice or doctrine relating to the steps to sainthood. The changes I made in that part of the article were probably in the form of grammatical changes or changes in the format of references used in that section.
- Again, if you feel you have something to add or change about any article on Misplaced Pages, you are more than welcome to edit that article, provided that the modifications are properly referenced. I should warn you however that changes made by non-registered editors are scrutinized by many registered editors much more closely than those of registered editors. The reason is because there is a very high percentage of the edits made by non-registered editors are vandalism or are not referenced. If you chose to remain non-registered, that is fine as long as your edits conform to Misplaced Pages standards. Personally, I believe that ALL edits should be made by editors that have registered, but that is just a personal opinion. I would urge you to register and avoid the hassle of editors that routinely remove edits by non-registered users. I don't do that myself, but I do look each edit made by a non-registered user over to make sure it has conformed to policy on the articles that I page patrol; at last count that was over 700 articles to keep track of. Have a profitable day... Cuprum17 (talk) 16:16, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Let me play devil's advocate. What is the point about an association that is set up for voluntary and community involvement if there evolve within that organization people, mind you whoi gravitate toward higher levels of authority, that take it upon themselves to "routinely remove edits by non-registered users" de facto without regards as to what is salvagable within that contribution and then gang up on that non-username "soon-to-be non-participating" person within WP? Your statement is so fruitful about what it can mean consciously and sibliminally. The intent may not have been particularly what was intended but it certainly is very provoking. Haste makes waste for both the contributor and the subsequent editor and certainly can show a sense of someone claiming possession of a community asset. Nothing implied toward any one in particular but certainly a sense of what some seem to display on WP and are backed up by other editors of a similar thought wave. But in hindsight there have been instances where an editor with a seamingly bountious knowlege of WK policy and guidelines tripping over themselves when someone else calls attention to their zealous proponent of points in order to "win" in a situation that is not meant for any "one" person to lose. It is just unfortunate for all those eduitors that are a hassle.66.74.176.59 (talk) 01:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
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TA for the corrections on USCGC Seneca (1908)
- The British via Canada did not contribute in the patrols?66.74.176.59 (talk) 11:16, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not familiar with the term "TA" used in the context of the header for this section which you have created on my talk page. What does that refer to? As for your question, other than financial backing, no other country besides the United States has done the actual patrol work. This was part of the agreement at the first International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea. (This does not relieve the operator of ANY vessel that spots an obstruction to navigation of the responsibility to report the position of the hazard to the proper authorities.) The United States would do the actual patrol work and other signatories to the convention treaty would provide the funds for the patrol work to be done. The first patrols were conducted by the U.S. Navy during the remainder of the 1912 North Atlantic ice season before the first Convention was held. The next year, the U.S. Navy claimed they could not spare the vessels to conduct patrol work so the U.S. Revenue Cutter Service was assigned the patrol work. This patrol work was based out of Halifax, Newfoundland and I would assume that the basing there might have been provided by the Canadian government but I have not found any documentation for that instance. The RCS and its successor agency (U.S. coast Guard) have conducted the International Ice Patrol each year since 1913 with the exception of the war years. (1917-1918 and 1941-1945) using both cutters and aircraft for patrol work. Recent use of satellite imagery has enhanced the availability of information concerning current ice conditions in the North Atlantic. While the use of cutters to patrol has been phased out, the Coast Guard Air Detachment Argentia, Newfoundland does the actual patrol work while the headquarters of the IIP is at New London, Connecticut.
- All of this information is beyond the scope of the article USCGC Seneca (1908) but it is linked in the article if the reader wants to know more about how the IIP is operated and funded.
- If you have any material you feel would add to the article, please do so; however, keep in mind that the additions must be referenced properly. I do not "own" the article and my interest is merely that of a retired Coast Guardsman wanting to make sure that articles on Misplaced Pages that refer to the Revenue Cutter Service or the Coast Guard are accurate. Cuprum17 (talk) 14:18, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
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