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Revision as of 03:40, 11 July 2006

Wording issues again

A user left a message on my talk page about the wording of MediaWiki:Emailforlost (I figure that's what he was talking about, even though he's following up on our discussion of MediaWiki:Prefs-help-email, the wording of which hasn't changed since you took my suggestion back in April). So I'd like to suggest a change to MediaWiki:Emailforlost, also (my edit in bold): "* E-mail address is optional; no confirmation is required. However, giving your e-mail address allows other users to send you mail, and enables you to request password reminders. We won't reveal your address to anyone, unless you use the "E-mail this user" feature to send mail to another user." A little redundant, perhaps, but I think it drives the point home a little more clearly. - dcljr (talk) 05:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Puzzled

Hi - Do you have any idea what these folks are talking about? -- Rick Block (talk) 03:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

If it's about what was shown at User:Bkell/Sandbox (the first list item has its width constrained by the image, instead of wrapping around it), I found the cause and a workaround. But I'm not 100% sure it was that issue they were talking about. --cesarb 22:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I think you're right. Thanks for looking into this. -- Rick Block (talk) 22:14, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Archiving

CesarB,

How did you archive all the first 136 sections in your talk page? Don't you dare say that you'll tell me only if I pay you $$$. My tildes are symbols like this:¬.

User:Sean gorter did this.

Archiving

Hey thanks CesarB. I know how to archive my talk subjects now. You're great!

Sean gorter 12:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Can I interest you in a formatting discussion?

Hi - There's a discussion at Template talk:Infobox City#class bordered or not that I think you may find interesting. I'd be interested in your opinions on this. -- Rick Block (talk) 22:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Exercise MAPLE FLAG

Could it not have been left in place based on this under the "Non-commercial Reproduction" section? Just curious. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:55, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Adminship thing, or whatever.

Just curious for later, how do you request to become an administrator? --Sean gorter22:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship and Misplaced Pages:Guide to requests for adminship. --cesarb 16:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not telling me how. not a bit. It's just telling me about being an administrator and the benefits of being an administrator.--Sean gorter 16:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Sean gorter again.

How do I join the Esperanza or the Counter Vandalism Unit?--Sean gorter

Pass of Brander

I was working to create this article which you appear to have deleted. Rcpaterson 02:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I had already written an article on the Battle of Culblean in much the same fashion. Your action has caused me to loose a good two hours work. I am relatively new to this project and have been spending much time eliminating a great many errors in my area of expertise, and rephrasing badly written articles. It is only now that I am beginning to work up items from nothing. I am still unclear why you effectively sabotaged my work before I had a chance to finish. I will certainly think twice before I waste my time in this fashion in future. Have you nothing better to do? Rcpaterson 02:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

No, I can't find it. As far as I am aware it is completely gone. I recently joined the military history group. There are a number of red article requests, and the two I worked on were both there, in that part concerned with the Scottish Wars of Independence. I simply took the red headline and started to work from that. The Culblean piece was fine-though it took two sessions to finish. You know what happened to my efforts on the Battle of the Pass of Brander; and I have to stress once again that I had been writing for well over an hour. Rcpaterson 03:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Cest la vie. Can't be helped; at least I now know there was no malice involved. Rcpaterson 05:13, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I am pleased to report that the Battle of Pass of Brander is now up and running, restored rather than resurrected! Rcpaterson 17:24, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Padding for an infobox

Hi - I'm trying to come up with a somewhat simpler version of template:Infobox Country, see User:Rick Block/Template:Infobox Country. I'm having trouble getting the padding to look similar. It appears that the padding specified in the infobox style in common.css can't be overridden globally for the infobox. Does this make sense to you? If you could take a look at this I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 22:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure of what you are trying to do, but:

• The padding is for .infobox on Common.css, but not for .infobox th or .infobox td
• Using the DOM Inspector, I can see that the computed padding for the table element is 0px, even if both Common.css and your inline style says otherwise
• Looking at , we have "Also, in this model, a table doesn't have padding (but does have margins)", which explains why it's 0px
• The computed value being 0px means you can't simply use inherit (it'd be 0px too)
• There's no way to, with inline style, change the padding for all cells (since inherit doesn't work); you really need a descendent selector

The best way would probably be to add another class (so you'd use class="infobox infobox-country" and have something like .infobox-country th, .infobox-country td { padding: 0.4em 1em 0.4em 0 } on Common.css)

--cesarb 22:52, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

What I'm trying to do is emulate the look of the existing Country infobox, but in a way that might be (easily) reusable in other infoboxes (like template:Infobox City and the numerous country subdivision templates like Template:Infobox U.S. state). It seems relatively insane to me that a city's infobox, the infobox for its national subdivision, and the infobox for its country each have dramatically different looks. The "new" look of the country infobox is (I think) the newest one, but it uses a ton of stuff that makes it difficult to reuse. Rather than .infobox-country th (and td), perhaps we could do a .infobox-geography th/td. My preference would really be for all infoboxes to use the vanilla infobox style, which seems to be the point of styles in the first place. Having these heavily customized infoboxes seems like a problem to me. -- 01:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Argh! border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 1em 0.4em; is very close to the existing look, but (sigh) IE doesn't support border-spacing. I guess your first suggestion of border-collapse: collapse; and padding set in a TH/TD style is the way to go. This doesn't achieve the 1em border, so the border lines for rows that have them will go edge to edge. I'm not sure how attached the Infobox Country folks are to the current look. BTW - does this strike you as a ridiculous waste of time (trying to rationalize the various geographical infoboxes)? Just curious. Thanks for the help - I'm still maintaining that I'm not a CSS expert. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: standard.js

I find your comments rather surprising. Do you mean to say that those pages exist for no real purpose? Ingoolemo  04:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

A user you unblocked

At Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(technical)#Ip_Problem you explained that you unblocked the IP 68.113.77.49. The user claimed that they did not know who Locust was, but there appears to be a bit of evidence that they are indeed the same person (a possible attempt to circumvent the block?). I left a message on the administrator who originally indefinitely blocked Locust43 at User_talk:Tijuana_Brass#A_sockpuppet_of_a_user_you_blocked, but it appears Tijuana is on a Wikibreak. Cola2706 appears to be jumping back into the problems that got him blocked in the first place, as showed by the message I left Tijuana. So, I came here to ask if you could look over this and see what should be done. Thanks. Cowman109 15:02, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I just looked through the IP's contributions, and this link confirms that they are indeed the same user. The user does seem to be trying to fix the problem, but they are being a tad disruptive in my opinion by lying about the unblock request and continuing the behavior that got them blocked in the first place. Cowman109 15:08, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Delete

Template:Delete has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Wisden17 19:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

User:207.44.156.107

heh i atchually did try and acsses the server via http and recived no response, im guessing it was down at that time. still no harm done though. Im often finding when running through some unblock requests that ips have changed ownership over time and i use through scanning before asking an admin to unblock (i have specialst network admin's scripts to use) Benon 22:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Help! New user freaking out!

Hi there,

I'm completely new to Misplaced Pages and have been browsing many of the welcome-new-users/policies/general-info/copyright pages the last couple of.. hours - and, argh! Ok, I was checking out the images listed here: WP:CP.. and argghh, when I was looking at this page: contribution that possibly violates copyright (yes, I still need to learn how to include a link to an image without including the image itself!!), I accidentally clicked on the 'rev' link!

I'm panicking now, because I'm new and didn't mean to click there (but I know that clicking the link was wrong) and ahhh!!! :// Okay, I just wanted to let you know about it since you reported the copyright violation. I'll go now and see if I can revert it back.. to how it was.. before I clicked on it. (But eeeep, what about that three reverts rule?! Ahh, what if I'm too stupid to figure it out before I violate that one?! *panics some more*)

--Kaythekay 12:19, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Me again.

Uhhhmm, I don't dare do anything now, because I'm not sure how to revert it back to how it was before!

(Because I added a comment right after I'd clicked on the link! Would I have to click on the other 'rev' link - the one next to the user's second edit - to revert everything back?! Heeelp! And sorry for bothering you with this all, I just don't want to make even more mistakes! :/)

--Kaythekay 13:16, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Requesting "sprotect" on my talk page, User_talk:HarroSIN

Requesting "sprotect" on my talk page, User_talk:HarroSIN, due to anons leaving irrelevant comments. Thank You. --HarroSIN 02:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Css/HTML question

Hi - I'm not sure if there's a way to do this, but I thought if anyone might know you would. Various infoboxes have entries that really should wrap if the width computed by the rest of the entries warrants it. I've looked for some way to effectively say "don't use this entry's width in the width computation" but haven't found anything (seems like "width=0" should work, but it doesn't seem to). Anyway - if you know or can think of anything, please let me know. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

With Safari, I think the things you tried look the same as you see them in Firefox (sort of works, but affects the whole column, not just the one entry). What I'm looking for is logically the inverse of "white-space: nowrap", but it doesn't seem to exist. I tried wrapping the text in a span and a div with explicit widths, but this doesn't seem to work either. Oh well. Where this occurs today I've coded an embedded break so at my default font size the table columns have reasonable widths. This is clearly not an optimal solution, but I suspect won't be noticed by most people. Thanks for taking a look. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

Hello CesarB or better: Oi CesarB! I have just written a deletion tag in the {u|Octavio Miamontes Vidal} that you just deleted. Let me explain better: Thus username is my own real name and I do not have any clue of why someone has created this usernaem with my name. You may verify that at the email address I gave. Do not think that there are many other Octavio Miramontes Vidal in the world...this is a unique name with no homonimes. Please delete the user page. Obrigado! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.248.7.200 (talk • contribs) 23:29, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Obrigado Cesar, agora preciso sair. Amanha gostaria de contactar vc de novo para explicar melhor o caso e dar um jeito em issto. Voce pode entender que nao estou gostando muito de que exista meu nome verdadeiro como o nick de alguma outra persona que pode escreber cualquier bobaje usando o meu nome. Obrigado de novo e disculpa por o meu portugueis. Vc poderia verificar se as IPs minhas e as do usuario tem o mesmo padrao? Tal vez eu mesmo fiz a conta e nao lembro de isso. Poderia haber acontecido mas eu tenho meu propio user na wikipedia, entao nao faz sentido. Vc pode me contactar no email que deixe, eu sou fisico da UNAM no Mexico, casado con brasileira e visito Brasil todos os anhos. Tenho minho CV no Lattes, pode consultar. Disculpa de novo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.248.7.200 (talk • contribs) 00:07, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

The sandbox

Granted, but the anonymous users were editing it every ten seconds or so and when I re-added the heading, it got immediately removed again. Using the sandbot woudn't have helped much, I fear. I think that the one-minute protection was in order. - Mike Rosoft 15:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Your block on User:216.16.246.124

I noticed your block on the said IP. I understand that the IP is an open proxy, but this is the advised proxy server posted on Misplaced Pages:Advice to Tor users in China so that Chinese users can connect to Misplaced Pages. Indef blocking this proxy may prevent users from China to create accounts and/or editing. --WinHunter 16:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Oups.. my mistake. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. >< .. --WinHunter 16:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Browsers not reloading common.css

Hi - I've heard some folks have had to do a forced reload to get their browsers to know about some styles I recently (like a week ago) added to common.css. Any ideas what might be causing this? Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:48, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

The proxy servers are requested to only check with the origin servers after 31 days ($wgSquidMaxage). This means you can only be sure your changes have been propagated to all the squid servers after 31 days have passed. This is visible as the smaxage=2678400 on the import of Common.css, which corresponds to a HTTP Cache-control: s-maxage=2678400 header. --cesarb 19:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Any idea why this is set so long (I assume $wgSquidMaxage is something we control somehow)? 31 days means any change in common.css won't necessarily be visible to clients for this long (right?). This seems like an awfully long time. Is this a Brion/Jamesday or somebody like that thing? Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 23:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration

What is an arbitrate???--Sean gorter(UTC)

"Arbitrate" is actually a verb -- "to arbitrate," which essentially means "to decide." In the context of Misplaced Pages, it's sort of the "final stage" -- the Arbitration Committee have the ability to set policy that all users on Misplaced Pages have to follow. I suppose the easiest thing to compare them to would be Supreme Court justices -- matters involving people come up before them, and the Arbitration Committee first decides whether to hear it, and then makes a decision on the matter before them, the effects of which can reach down to all Misplaced Pages editors.

Sean, also, you need to change your signature. This is a little complicated to explain if you've not been around Misplaced Pages for a while, but right now, it's a "transclusion" -- you're essentially telling Misplaced Pages's computer servers to look inside the contents of another entry -- your User:Sean gorter/Signature page -- and paste it in. Because the servers have to do that every time a page is loaded where you've signed your name, it causes a lot of work for the servers. The way to solve this is to go to Special:Preferences. On that first page, you should see a box that says "Signature". Inside that box, paste your signature, which right now is:

]^{] ] ]}(]]])

Then click the checkbox next to the words "Raw signature (no auto link; don't use templates or external links in this)", and click on the 'Save' button at the bottom of the page. If you want to get rid of your signature page after doing this, you can open up the page and type {{db-owner}}. — Mike (talk • contribs) 03:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)