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There is no proof they spoke "Indo Iranian" language. It is an occult lie and perversion. You could also say they spoke Turkic or Japanese, but there are no evidences for that claim. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 08:42, 16 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> There is no proof they spoke "Indo Iranian" language. It is an occult lie and perversion. You could also say they spoke Turkic or Japanese, but there are no evidences for that claim. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 08:42, 16 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:And you'd prefer to claim Turkic, right? Go to Jaakko Häkkinen's website. The many layers of deeply embedded Indo-Iranian loanwords in Uralic, the earliest layers being even more archaic than reconstructed Proto-Indo-Iranian, are a highly suggestive argument for the identification of Sintashta as Indo-Iranian (in addition to all the other points, especially cultural similarity). These loanwords and their relevance have been known for a long time. There's much more to this identification than some arbitrary idea you can come up with on a whim like Turkic or Japanese, neither of which have any arguments in their favour. (Not to mention that 2000 BC is too early for either.) --] (]) 19:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC) :And you'd prefer to claim Turkic, right? Go to Jaakko Häkkinen's website. The many layers of deeply embedded Indo-Iranian loanwords in Uralic, the earliest layers being even more archaic than reconstructed Proto-Indo-Iranian, are a highly suggestive argument for the identification of Sintashta as Indo-Iranian (in addition to all the other points, especially cultural similarity). These loanwords and their relevance have been known for a long time. There's much more to this identification than some arbitrary idea you can come up with on a whim like Turkic or Japanese, neither of which have any arguments in their favour. (Not to mention that 2000 BC is too early for either.) --] (]) 19:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
:Jaakko Hakkinen is not an Indo European language scholar. While there MAY be loanwords into Uralic and Finno Ugric from an Indo Aryan language, there is no conclusive evidence that this Sintashta culture had it as a ubiquitous language. It could simply have been a fringe component - a superstrate dominating over a completely different linguistic entity such as the Mitannian "Indo Aryan" over the Hurrian native group. Also the Scythian and Sarmatian languages have not been reconstructed at a satisfactory level, let alone the language of Sintashta, so I would suggest the article not getting ahead of itself and using more comprehensive information. Furthermore there is no SPECIAL cultural similarity other than the general Kurgan animal sacrifice and funeral customs which are found among various Indo Europeans, in antiquity as well as some recent contexts.

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There is no proof they spoke "Indo Iranian" language. It is an occult lie and perversion. You could also say they spoke Turkic or Japanese, but there are no evidences for that claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.182.70.183 (talk) 08:42, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

And you'd prefer to claim Turkic, right? Go to Jaakko Häkkinen's website. The many layers of deeply embedded Indo-Iranian loanwords in Uralic, the earliest layers being even more archaic than reconstructed Proto-Indo-Iranian, are a highly suggestive argument for the identification of Sintashta as Indo-Iranian (in addition to all the other points, especially cultural similarity). These loanwords and their relevance have been known for a long time. There's much more to this identification than some arbitrary idea you can come up with on a whim like Turkic or Japanese, neither of which have any arguments in their favour. (Not to mention that 2000 BC is too early for either.) --Florian Blaschke (talk) 19:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Jaakko Hakkinen is not an Indo European language scholar. While there MAY be loanwords into Uralic and Finno Ugric from an Indo Aryan language, there is no conclusive evidence that this Sintashta culture had it as a ubiquitous language. It could simply have been a fringe component - a superstrate dominating over a completely different linguistic entity such as the Mitannian "Indo Aryan" over the Hurrian native group. Also the Scythian and Sarmatian languages have not been reconstructed at a satisfactory level, let alone the language of Sintashta, so I would suggest the article not getting ahead of itself and using more comprehensive information. Furthermore there is no SPECIAL cultural similarity other than the general Kurgan animal sacrifice and funeral customs which are found among various Indo Europeans, in antiquity as well as some recent contexts.
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