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Response to request for Speedy Deletion

I can understand how one can make a prima facie case that this is spam, but I believe the Myles Munroe clearly meets the Misplaced Pages requirements for notability, and hence, whereas the current content of this page aren't perfect, this page is no more commercial than the current Misplaced Pages entries for other notable writers, such as Salman Rushdie, or notable evangelists, such as Oral Roberts.

Regarding notability, Myles Munroe has already been listed as notable on Bahamians with a request for a page. This article was created to meet that request. A Google news archive search results in over 300 news articles about Dr. Munroe since 1980. Additionally, the awards and honors he has received are quite prestigious. When Mr. Rushdie, for example, was awarded Queen's Birthday Honours (an award that Myles Munroe received some years earlier) it resulted in strong protest from several Muslim countries.

One might argue that a link to Dr. Munroe’s home page is commercial, but this standard practice in Misplaced Pages.

One might also argue that the link to an Amazon listing of his works is commercial, but this was merely to provide a reference on the number of works he has authored. If it is felt to be overly commercial, then it can be easily deleted without unduly compromising the article.

I believe that the above response fully addressed the concerns about spam but would welcome further elaboration of any issues I have missed.--Nowa (talk) 03:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Using honorary degrees as titles

Clearly this article was written by the PR arm of his ministry. My issue is the use of Dr. As best I can tell, he does not have an earned doctorate, only honorary degrees. Besides the fact that Misplaced Pages articles do not continually use a title (not even for notables like Jonas Salk or Albert Einstein), just because someone likes to use an honorary title doesn't mean we should. I am going to remove all the Dr. titles from the article. The rest of it needs work, too. Bob Caldwell CSL (talk) 14:07, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

OBE (Order of the British Empire) citation missing

I cannot find any evidence (after searching many sites) of him ever being awarded this. That being the case I am removing any reference to it until someone can provide such.voiceofreason 18:38, 10 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcgyver2k (talk • contribs)

Quoting an uncited article from "Fox news latino" hardly qualifies as proof of him receiving the OBE. I will remove that reference and await an actual source.voiceofreason 20:21, 10 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcgyver2k (talk • contribs)

It's referenced by a reliable source. Please see WP:VERIFY. The threshold for inclusion in Misplaced Pages is verifiability over truth. Keep removing it, Mcgyver2k, and you will end up getting reported for edit warring. Your choice. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:32, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Good edits coming

It's a little sad that it took this man's death to get responsible editors to look at the page and realize that it doesn't meet Misplaced Pages standards. The complaint that it sounds like it was written by a PR person is certainly correct. I like the way the edits are starting to go--to turn this from a fluff page to a more neutral presentation of the man. Bob Caldwell CSL (talk) 18:56, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. It will also be nice if more information on Munroe's early life comes out: names of parents, exactly where he was born, where he lived, siblings, etc. Sadly, articles on individuals known in sub-culture groups that are religious in nature often fall through the cracks and issues with those articles get ignored. I have removed the neutrality tag at the top of the article as it no longer reads like a promotional puff piece. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:25, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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