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They Say

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Spreading outright lies about me on twitter

Hi LoganMac. I'm assuming this twitter sharing the same username as your wikiaccount belongs to you. Could you please remove or rectify the lies you have posted about me on twitter, and learn to actually read what someones rights before putting words in their mouth. If you had actually read what I had written you would have known that I was arguing that Erik Kain is not a pro-GG source, and has not been unduly referenced in the article. Stop spreading lies, This is completely out of order. Bosstopher (talk) 16:27, 29 September 2014 (UTC) Twitter has freedom of expression sorry man, it is true there are people trying to make Erik Kain look like a random blogger while keeping freelancers as sources Loganmac (talk) 16:35, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

But you are lying and misrepresenting information by claiming that was the purpose of my glorious wall of text. The one you are quoting "Pro-GamerGate" leaning from is me. You have inarguably misrepresented my arguments online, so it would be in infinitely poor taste not to amend or delete your tweet. Also nobody has tried to completely remove Kain as a source, even Baranof merely thinks it's overused.Bosstopher (talk) 16:39, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

I know how this turns out, some admin claiming he's neutral goes and deletes half the stuff Erik said, as for the tweet, you can go ahead and spread whatever you want about me, I really don't care. Should understand Twitter doesn't abide by any self-censorship polcies like Misplaced Pages, if you think it violates their TOS, you could report me, again the tweet is just raising awareness to what I think will eventually happen, Eric Kain's source, one of the only neutral articles about the matter, will get half its content deleted on the article Loganmac (talk) 17:11, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

You are missing the point here. You are spreading misleading information about me that is outright false. You have made a factual error, you did not read what I had writen and before engaging with me escalated this straight to twitter. There is a difference between self censorship and admitting that you have made a mistake. 17:18, 29 September 2014 (UTC)Bosstopher (talk)

Why are you replying to/messaging everyone except me on this issue? Bosstopher (talk) 21:50, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Everything related to your complaint I stated on the ANI, I asked other users advise on an unrelated matter regarding Ryuolong Loganmac (talk) 22:47, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

You are ignoring the fact that I keep on telling you what you have written about me on twitter and reddit is untrue. I am upset with what you have said no because it criticizes wikipedia, but because it lies about my intentions and and portrays me as some sort of evil zealous madman who is incredibly anti-GG beyond all sense and reason. The proper thing to do when you make a mistake is admit wrongdoing. For someone who is pro-GG you seem to have failed to notice that owning up to wrongdoings instead of shutting your ears and shouting accusations of persecution is one of the main demands the movement's been making of people. So if you wont clarify that you made a factual error out of common decency, at least do it for the sake of ideological consistency. Bosstopher (talk) 22:56, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

I wrote a lenghty explanation and I didn't copy from the edit conflict with The Devil Advocate oh well, you state in that message that some citations from Erik's article should be deleted, and other editors agree. In any case that's why I provide a screencap, people reading it can take their own conclusion. If you took the tweet as a personal attack I apoligize but it was meant to show the state of the Misplaced Pages article, not to attack you personally, since noone actually goes and says "oh wow bosstopher is such and such", everyone that replied to that link on reddit and twitter criticizes Misplaced Pages. Your message is the least of that article's page faults, and your complaint was taken by Ryoulong as an excuse to have me topic banned, as some editors have done with Titanium Dragon, and several editors outing noobs in an extreme uncivil manner. This Ryoulong guy has called us extremely offensive slurs yet his bias is never put in doubt. My few edits to that article have been neutral as it gets, I never tried and delete misogyny and harassment mentions, which a lot of editors there seem to think GamerGate is all about Loganmac (talk) 23:20, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

The problem I have is that you still misunderstand what I was trying to say, when I said "remove citations." I did not mean remove information, Kain had put into the article. I meant replace that tiny little number box representing Kain's article with one of another person where another person could be used. This would be to prove this article is not actually oversaturated with Kain, but merely looked as if it was. The problems people had was that Kain was being spammed because so much of the article couldnt be sourced from elsewhere. My post was meant to be an attempt to prove this wrong. You made a post on twitter implying my post was arguing the exact opposite of what I was saying without asking me first to check if you were mistaken. This is what annoys me. Thanks for the apology though. Bosstopher (talk) 23:36, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

I think you jumped the gun on those comments and should clarify. There are definitely some who want to remove most of the citations to Erik Kain in the article, but Bosstopher is not one of them. We already have enough misinformation being spread around on Twitter, like the stuff about WikiProject Feminism. No need to add to the confusion.--The Devil's Advocate _{tlk. cntrb.} 23:07, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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Github?

I don't understand your comment to my talk page. What does Github have to do with GamerGate, and how does it relate to me? Diego (talk) 11:18, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

No I meant on the Github article talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:GitHub#Sexist_Culture_Accusations, nothing to do with GamerGate. Just asking why are reliable sources sometimes left out when its editors think what they say is not true Loganmac (talk) 11:20, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

When "editors think what they say is not true", by definition they don't consider it reliable. If other editors nevertheless disagree and think it's true, then we have an editorial dispute; eventually it should be decided by consensus whether to use it or not. Diego (talk) 11:32, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks,

Pardon my French

Why the fuck is the Japanese word for "desire to murder" next to my name on this Reddit thread you began?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 19:24, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

You mean the flair? I don't control it, that's admins, I will request them to remove it now, didn't even know what it meant. Also that account might not be mine... Loganmac (talk) 19:31, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

If you're not Redditor "Logan_Mac" then I don't run @Ryulong on Twitter.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 19:36, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

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Do not discuss other editors on article talk pages as you did here per WP:TPNO, WP:CIV and WP:NPA - follow WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE instead. If you persist you risk being sanctioned per Misplaced Pages:General sanctions/Gamergate, which is very clear about strictly folliwng The Purpose of Misplaced Pages. Dreadstar ☥ 19:40, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Arbitration case request(Gamergate) declined

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Thanks,--The Devil's Advocate _{tlk. cntrb.} 00:44, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Its on me. :D DSA510 Pls No H8 07:05, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi there

Don't believe or repeat the shit written about me at Encyclopedia Dramatica. I've never used "bugs" to hide edits or used sockpuppet accounts.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 04:55, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

How about you stop harassing me and looking at everything I do offsite, several people have said that, I didn't get it from ED, also that account might not be mine mate Loganmac (talk) 15:38, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

How about you stop spreading lies about me offsite in your ongoing attempt to get the whole of the movement against me as if they weren't already. That account is definitely you and it's been established onsite already when you posted about that other person and you didn't deny owning the account then. The only place where any of those statements exist is either Encyclopedia Dramatica or the insane rankings and ravings of all the people who were banned and use Misplaced Pages Review to attack editors that piss them off. I do not appreciate the fact that you are doing this, coaching a party who is being wrongly led to believe that I have an agenda to slander him into getting me removed from Misplaced Pages, and acting as if I'm the one to blame just because I tried to ensure that the article on Gamergate met the guidelines of Misplaced Pages and if that makes me biased then I guess I'm biased.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 20:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

What I do offsite it's not of your matter, I never encourage people to come here so I'm not breaking any rules, you've admitted already that you're biased. And on the reddit account, silence doesn't mean admission, you've battled countless people, even outside of GamerGate that time and time again tell you the same thing and yet you fail to realize who's fault is it Loganmac (talk) 21:25, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

People get angry at me for such trivial reasons.

That "Mass deletion of articles" crap regards my opposition to one user creating articles on a bunch of borderline languages that are almost exclusively referred to as dialects.

There is a user who is indiscriminately angry that I don't think a section heading on one of the articles on The Amazing Race should take up half of the width of the page because of the international travelling that people technically did. And he is also angry that I've changed a template used on these pages to be more WP:ACCESS friendly because who when reading these pages is going to know to hover over a tiny little icon to know what it's supposed to symbolize?

There are a vast number of people who think that any translation quirk that exists on Misplaced Pages or a fan Wikia or TV Tropes regarding Japanese live action children's shows is because of me because here I edit the pages such that they utilize the (most recent) English translations that the copyright holders put out rather than the choices made in popular illegal fan subtitling projects or that appear on screen once and are then contradicted by the bulk of print material that came after that five second scene where the English word was seen.

There are people who because I asked a single question about the events of one episode I had not seen of a children's television show I religiously watched as a child they suddenly yell at me like I'm a cancer destroying their fandom because I'm not an infallible expert on this subject. These same people troll me because Misplaced Pages originally formatted all of those pages' titles to use a single punctuation mark that because they did not find in any material, and that they've gone out of their way to show me photographs of signed copies of the scripts of these episodes or movies or whatever to disprove me that I should be banned from Misplaced Pages. These are people who think that their insider sources and fanblogs should be used as reliable sources on Misplaced Pages when they're worse than Buzzfeed.

Gamergate is just the next in a long line of people I've unintentionally pissed off by being on Misplaced Pages and disagreeing with them. So I would appreciate if you were not as prevalent in continually fostering this movement to be against me. Because I can easily see that "Logan_Mac" on Reddit has made several threads directly about me on KotakuInAction rather than the other vague threads that don't list me in the title that have shown up. So I am just asking you to stop spreading the lies that come from people who hate me for daring to edit a Misplaced Pages page on Power Rangers or Pokemon or from people who are so fucking insane that they think that I was dating someone here (I almost was but it was someone completely different than who they accuse), all because I think that for a topic as controversial as Gamergate, only reliable sources should be used. And just because I've been incorrect in my assumption of some sources, or because I once called some other source as unreliable on another subject, should not mean I have to sit back and watch you say these things about me. If I am constantly censured by people here for things I have not done on Misplaced Pages, simply asking you to lay off a bit on Reddit should be simple enough.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:33, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Gamergate Arbcom

Please note the instruction for your statement in the Gamergate request for a case:

Without exception, statements (including responses to other statements) must be shorter than 500 words.

Your statement is at 580 words, so is over the limit. I realize it isn't far over, but several statements are over, and I am contacting anyone who is over 500. Please recall that this statement is not intended to be a full exposition of all evidence, which occurs at the next step, but simply a statement requesting a case. Please trim back your statement. For the arbitration committee --S Philbrick(Talk) 20:06, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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