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Prehistoric art

Hi, I just looked at the history of the page and noticed you were 'playing' on it too. Great, this page can be really good (and it is an important page, at least in title, to the topic). I've been just going out and grabbing pages after quick reads. The gold crowns aren't prehistoric, which is why I took them off (less than 5,500 years old. I have dust bunnies older than that). I haven't looked at the category, which should be a prehistoric gold mine of data. I thought a photo of the earliest art could be included, and the lead should really be beefed up with a very well written intro. I came across the page while doing additions to {{Prehistoric technology}} which you may want to glance at and see if you can add pages to it as full listings or as sub-sections. Good to meet you! Randy Kryn 13:52 31 May 2014 (UTC)

"Prehistoric art" is anything from Prehistory. In Europe, that means anything still outside the expanding Roman Empire, so up to 50 AD for England for example. That is the standard definition - there's no point inventing your own. I don't go in for lists much - I can't really see the point when we have categories. Johnbod (talk) 14:03, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

I didn't know that prehistoric eras were so recent in most areas. So North American Indian culture is prehistoric until folks from Europe arrived? Thanks for educating me about something so simple but something I wasn't aware of. I find lists garner many more "views" than categories, as some people look at lists while others look at categories. I'm a list person, and seldom look at categories (which is why I didn't even glance at the Prehistoric art category, which is huge, until you mentioned it). Then with lists you can add lead data and pictures and other information. Categories usually branch off into half a dozen of more sub-categories, which is one reason myself and probably others look elsewhere. After finding out Prehistoric is considered just last week (for that one Island tribe that other people won't approach because they kill everybody who lands there) I must go drown myself in mango juice. Thanks again! Randy Kryn 14:50 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Well, yes it is strictly although it is not usually referred to as such. Of course in Meso- and South America things are different, as several cultures had "writing" systems. You could rename your list using "Stone Age" maybe, then have Bronze Age and Iron Age ones as well - these are respectively mostly and partly prehistoric, depending on the culture. Or keep it all in one, in which case there's a lot to add. Images are certainly good. Johnbod (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

I like "list of Stone Age artworks" as it's what most people think of as prehistory (I'd guess). The list wasn't mine, but it did look woefully small and undernourished when I clicked on it - begging me for water and things like that. So I don't think I'd play with Bronze and Iron, although I guess the template itself will still have to include those. A good idea, and I'll give it a go. Another thing about lists is that they can go on See also lists, which up their availability, and everything is on one page and not spread out over many categories. I guess someone is either a category person or a list person, and never Mark Twain shall meet. More later, thanks again. Randy Kryn 19:38 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I'll take a look in a while. I'm nothing against lists that are reasonably complete in terms of what articles we have, so good luck! Johnbod (talk) 20:41, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Have done some nice work on List of Stone Age art, but of course it is far from where it should be. Many more listings will go on the page, could you take a look and either add some important ones that you know of or give me a heads up on the major pages which aren't listed as yet. Each listing which doesn't have a summary will be summarized, with data about the object/cave and for the individual objects, for their present location. I try to give the artists their due - most of the time when people, at least myself, think of prehistoric art we forget that there was a very creative person working at the time. Thanks for a look if you have a minute. In all, Randy Kryn 13:34 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Old master prints - French translation

Hi,

Before anything else: thanks for your contribution! I am currently translating this article for the french wiki and may need your advice every now and then. I will let you know as soon as the translation is ready (most likely it will be included in the article fr:gravure or fr:histoire de la gravure, and completed with 19th and 20th).

For the moment just one question: Burgkmair, Baldung and Graf are mentioned in the "little masters" section. However, neither my sources nor the "little masters" article mention them. Should I "move" them to the upper section? (The North after Dürer)

Thanks! --Npy (talk) 23:43, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that was a mistake with the header which I've moved down a paragraph. Of course, just ask. Johnbod (talk) 03:02, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Just to let you know, the translation is taking shape here, still very much a WIP. As you can see, I have modified the division of contents, and added some information taken from fr:estampe. Please feel free to modify, comment etc. Small point, you mention Annibale Carracci, but maybe his brother Agostino is more relevant to old master prints? (not sure at all)

I've worked all 3 in, though the 2A's are the more significant. I suppose I should reference the article. By the way, isn't one of the most active figures in the French chapter a historian of prints? Johnbod (talk) 11:55, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the sourcing! Concerning Berthelot, I am not sure, but will check --Npy (talk) 13:16, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Wow, lot of new references =) Do you intend to add more? If so, I will wait before updating the translation. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Npy (talk • contribs) 18:05, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, in theory. I've only done some of the books I used. I won't do much in the week. Johnbod (talk) 20:31, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Train the Trainers refresher 2014

Hi John,

Are you going to the refresher on the 28th? I have created a page for it wmuk:Train the Trainers refresher 2014. Signing-up there isn't compulsory, but we can use the page to coordinate and discuss what we want to get out of the day.

Yaris678 (talk) 16:37, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

The Blind Leading the Blind

Sorry it took me a while to respond to your comments. I won't make up excuses—I simply forgot. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 00:35, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

No worries. I won't be able to add my bit until the w/e. Wiki at Royal Society John (talk) 00:38, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Pancreatic cancer

Wondering on your feedback on the lead. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 08:01, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Moving to other account - will look tomorrow Johnbod (talk) 16:52, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Sunburst

Just a minor comment. In this edit, you added the following observation: "Traditional sunburst morifs usually show the rays narrowing as they get further from the centre; from the later 19th century they often get wider, which is more appropriate in optical terms." In a strictly physical sense this might be true (you obviously allude to beam divergence), but the human eye perceives the rays or beams emanating from the sun in the traditional way as illustrated neatly by the first photo. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 22:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

I'd have thought we just see sunlight, no? What camera lenses do is another matter. Johnbod (talk) 00:15, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure this kind of tapering off of beams surronding the sun (and other light sources) can be seen by the human eye as well as the camera lens. At least I seem to recall perceiving this phenomenon. The beams may widen, but their brightness decreases. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 01:40, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Well out of my area of expertise, I'm afraid. Johnbod (talk) 18:31, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Très Riches Heures

Hi Johnbod, I finally got around to responding to your question at Talk:Très Riches Heures du Duc de Berry#Title. Please read my reply there. It took me some time, but I tried to check each of the sources I mentioned more carefully, and I put the results on the Talk page. --Robert.Allen (talk) 20:16, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

WP:REFERS -sometimes used inappropriately

Basically WP:REFERS only applies when the article is about a topic. If it is a disambiguation page or the article is about a specific word then "refers" is ok. Isn't Antiquities about a topic? Bhny (talk) 01:40, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Your edit would have led to people trying to move the page to Antiquity in no time at all. I can't see the bearing of what you say at all. WP:REFERS is clear that it is not a hard-and-fast rule. Johnbod (talk) 21:56, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Message

, Sorry to bother you, but the project needs expertise about the picture of the day. About Manet's Olympia... too chose the right copy on picture. Hafspajen (talk) 13:10, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

The Blind Leading the Blind

Hi. Were you still intending to fix up the religious background of The Blind Leading the Blind? The article has three supports now, so I was worried it might be promoted before you got to it. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:44, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

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Fake portrait

Hello, Johnbod. Your opinion is welcome on Misplaced Pages:Bot requests/Archive 61#remove image from articles. --Ghirla 15:38, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Don't know the backstory, but no doubt you are right. Too small for a bot it seems, but fiddly to do manually. Suggest a replacement on talk pages in English maybe? Good to hear from you. Johnbod (talk) 20:13, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

WiR note

Just a note to say I left a question at User talk:Wiki at Royal Society John, but it appears that because of some markup left by someone else the talk page is a little messed up right now. I didn't want to try to fix it myself, since it looks like you're training someone, but FYI that last comment (with the weird effect of duplicating the comment and the note, and note substituting my signature) is from me. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:45, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes wierd - there was just a missing final ">". Give me a few days on that. Or ask User:PatHadley actually - he might just know. Johnbod (talk) 00:47, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

MIS

Please be aware that your recent three reverts at Marine isotope stage amount to edit warring, see WP:3RR. prokaryotes (talk) 13:53, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

No, they don't - I have read not only the MOS but 3RR, as well as your own rather spectacular ANI/block record. I am beginning to see how this came about. You are clearly ignorant of MOS:FOOTERS. Johnbod (talk) 13:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a bad day or something? Since i regard the incident as minor i leave it at that. prokaryotes (talk) 14:05, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Very wise. Johnbod (talk) 14:07, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

About The Banquet of Cleopatra

Hi Johnbod,
Thank you so much for expanding the little stub I started. From memory, I read about a few months ago in the local rag, then looked it up on Misplaced Pages to find out more about it. And there was the painting, in Giulio Cesare, with no article about it.

• At present, the article is about the one painting, and there are a number of others: should it be perhaps moved to The Banquet of Cleopatra (Tiepolo painting)?
• "The Banquet of Cleopatra" is a subject of many works of visual art, music and literature: should the article be about the Banquet of Cleopatra itself, with the works as sections?
• Ya wanna get The Banquet of Cleopatra up as a WP:DYK?

ps: My favourite work in the collection of the NGV is this 1986 anonymous work of performance and/or conceptual art. (After all, it really is just another Picasso. Don't tell anyone else I said this!) Piet AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 16:22, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Yes I was going to do the DYK - or you could; should go today. Some time later this could go to The Banquet of Cleopatra (Tieplo) and the plain name be worked up a bit to cover the whole subject - when I have time. It's rather like Feast of the Gods (art) but a bit less to say. Johnbod (talk) 17:44, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

But all the thanks should be to you. It now looks like a real encyclopedia article.

That said, every time I look at the painting, for no particularly good reason I get the Arrival of the Queen of Sheba as an Ohrwurm.

Even worse, looking at Feast of the Gods (art) yields Led Zep's Immigrant Song: "the Feast of the Gods... etc". Aargh! --Shirt58 (talk) 13:51, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Handel & Tiepolo go pretty well together. Cleopatra is a main character in his Giulio Cesare (where I see the painting is used as an illustration). Pity he never did the sequel. Not sure what the Mannerist gods would have made of Lep Zep - but who knows! They like to party, certainly. What does Merry Company bring forth? Johnbod (talk) 13:58, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

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The Banquet of Cleopatra

Tasty work! And an effective antidote to that Gc-MAF stuff. (Now we just need to get her to swing those hips... arf, arf!) 31.48.175.145 (talk) 11:35, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 19:21, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for The Banquet of Cleopatra

On 30 July 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Banquet of Cleopatra, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Tiepolo's The Banquet of Cleopatra (pictured) of 1744, now in Melbourne, shows Cleopatra about to dissolve a pearl in vinegar in order to win a bet? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Banquet of Cleopatra. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Overview section for radiocarbon dating

The activity at the PR has died down somewhat, so I wanted to come back and ask you about this again. I'm still not quite sure what you have in mind here; apologies if I'm being thick. Can you give me some more details? I take your point about more people needing to know what a date means than need to understand the whole process -- would it help to add a sentence or two to the lead such as "Radiocarbon dates are frequently reported in archaeological research; a typical uncalibrated date looks like this: '3510 ± 60 BP' and means that the samples is between 3570 and 3450 years before 1950 AD. 'Uncalibrated' means that it has not been corrected for the variation in 14C over time. A corrected, or calibrated date, might be reported as 'cal 1220–1281 AD', which means that once the corrections are applied, the best estimate of calendar age is between 1220 AD and 1281 AD." Would that address your concern? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Part of it, but there is more to say, is there not? Probability/confidence, and so on. Do different labs still use different calibrations, so that dates from different sources shouldn't be mixed? Johnbod (talk) 01:09, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

What I know about the subject I found out by researching the article, so I can't answer that with the authority an archaeologist would have. I know that Radiocarbon now recommends that all calibrated dates include details of the software used to do the calibration, including rev number, and that would imply the calibration curve, I assume. As far as I can tell the INTCAL curves are used for most dates, but it's not the sort of thing that's going to be citable to a secondary source. Re the probability/confidence: yes, but it's too complicated for the lead, at least if done right. I think a mention of the 68% confidence could be given by adding "with 68% confidence" in two places to the suggested sentence above. Do you think I should mention standard deviations in the lead, or the fact that calibrated intervals don't have distributions describable by formulae? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 02:16, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Folly definition

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I may not have time for this until after Wikimania. I doubt the term is capable of very precise definition, but the current one should be able to be sourced. I think the first sentence of the lead is ok, and somewhat sourced below (note 4), but I'm doubtful about the 2nd sentence. Johnbod (talk) 00:59, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Civility

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• Assume good faith — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.99.185.183 (talk) 13:29, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Please stop edit-warring. You are doing too many edits based on your personal preferences and prejudices rather than WP policy. I suggest you go more slowly and carefully. Johnbod (talk) 13:33, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

• My edits of bone china were to clarify a badly written and confusing statement - what is wrong with that?
• My edit of Simon Schama is because he is British, hence GBP is appropriate, and as a major currency it does not need conversion.
• Again, please be civil and assume good faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.99.185.183 (talk) 13:42, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

If you think Misplaced Pages:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Currencies says that "as a major currency it does not need conversion" you are misreading it. In any case Schama has mostly lived and worked in the US since 1980. Your many edit summaries are not notable for either civility or good English. Johnbod (talk) 13:51, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

• I would be interested to know the policy which directs a major currency, which is used for the nationality of the subject of the article, to be converted to another.

No policy either requires or deprecates it, and it is very common, especially in topics which span the Atlantic, as this one does. You may not like it, but you should not complain if your removals are reverted. Johnbod (talk) 14:53, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

• "you should not complain if your removals are reverted." Pot calling the kettle black ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.99.185.183 (talk) 15:06, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

• Again, please be civil as there is no need for discussions to degenerate into playground bickering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.99.185.183 (talk) 13:56, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Portrait of a Young Girl (Christus)‎‎

Well, we got there in the end - after how many years? Was the most difficult page I've been involved with; what can you say about a painting of which so little is known. Any info gathered was always like hens teeth. Anyway wanted to say that it was a good collab, am proud the finished article, and best wishes. Ceoil (talk) 15:49, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

yes, but it's nice to see a small work as an FA, as a bit of a change. Well done! Johnbod (talk) 17:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

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WMUK Science Conference

Hi John. I'd be interested in your feedback on this proposal, which would hope to build on the work you are doing now in your two residencies. Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 17:58, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Belated thank you

Hi Johnbod. Thank you again for whipping The Banquet of Cleopatra up from a tiny stub to a proper encyclopedia article. I generally hang out at the shite pipe Misplaced Pages:New pages patrol and don't write much much content, so being involved with a DYK means a lot to me. Thank you again! Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 12:39, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

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FYI: Misplaced Pages talk:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop#Policy regarding colourisation of images. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:43, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Andy - no time today, or perhaps tomorrow, but I will weight in. Johnbod (talk) 23:58, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Nativity (Christus)

Hi Johnbod, I've put Christus's Nativity up for peer review here, hoping to have a go at FAC and a xmas TFA. I'd like your input, when you have time. It's a more complicated painting than I expected and some of the sections would definitely benefit from another set of eyes. Just as an fyi, because I'm stacked up with work between now and Dec. progress will be slow, so I thought I should get it going sooner rather than later. Thanks. Victoria (tk) 00:33, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I just wanted to drop a note here to thank you for comments to the PR and for your edits to the page (particularly the bit about Seth - very interesting). And an FYI that I'll be moving it to FAC fairly soon. Victoria (tk) 13:02, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Early 20th Century French Art

Hi John, I'm working on September Morn and will likely push for GA and FA. I was wondering if you are sufficiently familiar with 20th century French art, or know someone who is, so that I can better provide comprehensive coverage and avoid making errors. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:50, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

I've commented a bit, but its not my area. User:JNW is mostly retired, but looks in now & then - he would be ideal. Certainly seems GA standard already, & not far from FA. You might add some background on the very complex issue of attitudes to female nudes in art at the period, and why this attracted especial ire - or was it just because it was so popular? Johnbod (talk) 12:05, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks a lot. I'll respond at the talk page, and see if JNW is around. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:11, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

• I am indeed mostly retired, but thanks for thinking of me. JNW (talk) 11:41, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks for the feedback. I've added a little bit of background, but I'm not too sure about the nuances of it; I mean, there are books about the subject, and to avoid overwhelming this article we need to have a fairly compact overview. I'd ping JNW, but the talk page has a big "retired" bar over it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:18, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

• No, I'm pretty much done with content and copy editing. And for good measure I can't stand that painting. Sorry. JNW (talk) 23:38, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

• Alright, thanks anyway. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:24, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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Feature – Ebola articles

During August we have translated Disease and it is now live in more than 60 different languages! To help us focus on African languages Rubric has donated a large number of articles in languages we haven't previously reached–so a shout out them, and Ian Henderson from Rubric who's joined us here at Misplaced Pages. We're very happy for our continued collaboration with both Rubric and Translators without Borders!

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Those pesky Tudor artists

I'm going to be doing some editing on the various Tudor artists and portraits - there have been some reassessments of attributions that need attention (the Armada portraits are no longer firmly attributed to Gower and seem to be from three different workshops, and the attribution of the Darnley portrait of Elizabeth to Zuccaro has been rejected). I have the NPG companion volume to the Real Tudors exhibit which gives good sources on some of these, and there's info on the NPG website about the work from their research project Making Art in Tudor Britain.

Have you seen the video on the conservation and cleaning of the Phoenix Portrait? Great stuff. Link here. http://www.arthistorynews.com/articles/2999_Cleaning_Elizabeth_I - PKM (talk) 17:17, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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Melancholy

I've added a bit on melancholy in 16th and 17th century visual arts to Melancholia - I suppose this could use an entire article of its own at some point, but at least the visual arts get a mention now. - PKM (talk) 01:51, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Added a bit, mainly literary. I always think Percy above the classic English depiction, but I suppose this is subjective. The C17 Italians gave the theme a good go, but it doesn't come naturally to them perhaps. Johnbod (talk) 17:06, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

This (skimmed) is interesting but fiddly: "Mio malinchonico, o vero... mio pazzo": Michelangelo, Vasari, and the Problem of Artists' Melancholy in Sixteenth-Century Italy, Piers Britton, The Sixteenth Century Journal, Vol. 34, No. 3 (Fall, 2003), pp. 653-675, Published by: The Sixteenth Century Journal, Article DOI: 10.2307/20061528

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Neglected to thank you for these edits and the link. Good stuff. - PKM (talk) 20:21, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you for the Gospel Book edits

Hello, I just wanted to say thank you for the edits on the Gospel Book article and say I think it looks a lot better! I'm sorry I called the article "a bit of a mess"; I'm the first to admit it was unfairly harsh. It did have a few issues, but thanks to you it now both looks nice and is an interesting read. I'll try to add a few things later, if I can. Ciao, Yakikaki (talk) 16:06, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

thanks. Things can always be expanded, but I think it gives a good basic account. I tried to find EO refs online, without much success. Johnbod (talk) 16:15, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Johnbod, you asked me about my "but" in the afd. While gospel books seems to be OK in English, a vast array of significant literature is found with the German expression Evangeliar. That said, youre stilll better off refwise on gospel books, if you look for "evangeliar(y)". I fully agree with Yakikaki. Serten (talk) 16:30, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I have added to this and Evangeliary on this. Thanks, Johnbod (talk) 14:42, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

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French Royal Family

Hi John,

Due to this recent deletion discussion Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Members of the French Royal Families the link to Members of the French Royal Families#John_II_of_France_.281319.E2.80.931364.2C_r.1350.E2.80.931364.29 (piped to display as "French royal family") in the second section of Royal Gold Cup became red. Someone has now removed the link altogether. Perhaps you know of a better place to link it to now. I don't know what that complicated link was referring to so I don't want to just change it to the biography of John II of France lest you had a more specific think you meant. Wittylama 09:45, 20 October 2014 (UTC) Thanks - sorted. Johnbod (talk) 00:22, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

If you feel inspired, there's a dozen other articles that used to link in to that now deleted article which need altering... . Wittylama 07:17, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

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Partial reversions on Islamic art and Islamic architecture

Hey, I noticed partial reversions of a couple edits of mine that you made on Islamic art (relevant edit) and Islamic architecture (relevant edit), making reference to WP:CITEVAR with regards to reference style consistency. When I made those edits, I considered that rule, but judged that it did not apply because the citation style doesn't appear to be consistent on either page—each page contains other {{cite book}} templates and others in the same family (i.e. {{cite journal}}), so I was not disrupting an established style. I'm not going to undo your reversion—the difference means little to me—but in future, please don't misapply that rule to (partially) revert good-faith changes like mine. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 18:32, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

There is an established style, but on these popular articles others have introduced variants. That doesn't mean the style has become disestablished; your judgement was wrong. If you are not sure you should ask on the talk page first - see WP:CITEVAR. I shall certainly continue to do the same in similar circumstances. Johnbod (talk) 10:58, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

English South Coast Meetup

Hi John, you are hereby invited to the South Coast Meetup.

Kind Regards -- Marek.69 15:13, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Hope it goes well, but I doubt I will make it. Johnbod (talk) 17:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks John. It would have been rude not to invite you :-) -- Marek.69 18:27, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Merger of Triumphal cross into Rood

Hi John. I've closed the discussion and merged the articles. Normally closure would be done by a third party, but as we both agree and have had no objections in over a year, I thought it was reasonable to do it myself. Please read through the merged article if you have time and check if it makes sense. I've introduced additional sections to try and clarify the structure. Cheers. --Bermicourt (talk) 09:35, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks Johnbod (talk) 12:27, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Bois Protat

Hey, if you can find the time, do you think you could give me some feedback on Bois Protat? I've got access to a book in French that I plan to use to expand the description (though not any time soon), so I guess I'm asking more for advice on the "Background" section, although any other advice would of course be appreciated. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 23:33, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Byzantine silk

I added images to Byzantine silk. Let me know what you think. Thanks. - PKM (talk) 05:21, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Martin Van Cleve

Martin Van Cleve is a bit of a mess - mostly 1913 PD text. I'm going to fix the dates per ULAN and RKD, but it could use your expertise . - PKM (talk) 00:45, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

"died of gout", eh! All these 2nd division Old Masters are the same. I'm pretty busy for the next month but will see what I can do. The online Metropolitan MA catalogues in PDF must have something on him somewhere, as they have on everything else. Ask User:WilliamDigiCol - have you seen our project there? Shame about the elections - no US govt for 2 years now. I blame the voters, All the best, Johnbod/Wiki CRUK John (talk) 08:49, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

• • Well, he's mentioned in a big Vermeer catalog we have (on p. 54), but there is hardly anything there. A catalogues raisonnes came out this year (in German), so if you have access to that it would obviously be useful (we have a copy if you are in the NYC area). Sorry I'm not able to find more - feel free to take a look yourself here. WilliamDigiCol (talk) 16:01, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, all. I've moved it to Marten van Cleve, and I'll clean up the worst of it. It's been this way a long time, so I suppose there's no rush. Working on brother Hendrick as well, in between looking for a Real Job. - PKM (talk) 21:53, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Diet as Risk factor

What are you referring to in:

on 2nd thoughts it's ok, though it's 2012 citing 2007. Another ref might be added"

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Look at the source (in the old version) and see what it says. Johnbod (talk) 16:05, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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Erna Auerbach

I've done a stub for Erna Auerbach. It could use some assessment of her contributions if you or anyone reading here has a good source. (And something on her paintings, for which I have little.) - PKM (talk) 21:16, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

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Science Museum Late

Hi Johnbod and thank you for signing up for the Science Museum Late - it's going to be a great night! Mary Langsdale (talk) 15:54, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

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