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More Ararat
I know you're probably really busy, but the blocks for the Ararat IPs 66.92.44.189 and 68.119.236.39 have expired, and they're doing the same old thing. Could you block them again? A. Parrot (talk) 21:09, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- And 64.134.235.46, too. A. Parrot (talk) 21:16, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- A. Parrot - thanks, done. Easier to deal with than the new SPAs that keep reverting me. Dougweller (talk) 21:40, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- Then perhaps you'll be happy to see 74.1.179.230. Not previously blocked like the others, but there's no doubt about its identity. A. Parrot (talk) 21:52, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- And 75.22.82.168. A. Parrot (talk) 22:16, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- Better to protect the pages, let me know which and I'll do it tomorrow. Dougweller (talk) 22:22, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- Ay. I haven't seen any others so far, but we'll see. A. Parrot (talk) 22:24, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- Plus Amarna Period.
- And now Seker and Khepri. A. Parrot (talk) 20:33, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- Plus Amarna Period.
- Ay. I haven't seen any others so far, but we'll see. A. Parrot (talk) 22:24, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- Better to protect the pages, let me know which and I'll do it tomorrow. Dougweller (talk) 22:22, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- And 75.22.82.168. A. Parrot (talk) 22:16, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- Then perhaps you'll be happy to see 74.1.179.230. Not previously blocked like the others, but there's no doubt about its identity. A. Parrot (talk) 21:52, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- A. Parrot - thanks, done. Easier to deal with than the new SPAs that keep reverting me. Dougweller (talk) 21:40, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Those have been protected, but now it's Maat. A. Parrot (talk) 02:52, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Help with history merge
Dear Doug, I've been pointed in your direction after I asked a question at the administrators notice board. Please see . I have completed my work (well, done enough anyway) on the page User:Athomeinkobe/Kato so I believe it is now ready to replace the article Kosuke Kato. I've checked the current version of the live article, and the only significant contribution I can see is the addition of a category by a user Tsubame, which I added to my draft and attributed to that user yesterday. Please let me know if there is anything I need to do. Thank you in advance for your help, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 09:14, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
- AtHomeIn神戸 Done. but you should add a WP:SORTKEY. Dougweller (talk) 15:42, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I had a look at the sortkey page, and found that there was a "DEFAULTSORT" within the < nowiki > categories at the bottom of the article. But it had an errant colon in it, so I think I have fixed it. Is that what you were referring to? AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 23:05, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
- User talk:Athomeinkobe sorry, I meant look at, not add. Dougweller (talk) 15:08, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- That's ok. It was good to read the page and learn more about why we have the keys. Thanks once again for your help. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 22:43, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Mongol Empire
Hello, I'd like to have an admin review the edit warring, disruptive editing, and possible sock puppetry by User:Uniquark9, possibly aka User:Sparta300+1 (contribs). See Mongol Empire revision history, talk page, and user talk page. The user has violated 3RR, removed another user's comment from a talk page revealing evidence of sock puppetry, and continues to add disputed material that is simply copied from another article. Thank you, Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 02:18, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- Another editor has opened a sockpuppet investigation into the matter, so hopefully that will resolve the situation. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 15:24, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry Laszlo Panaflex, I knew that and was going to ask you about it, but busy in RL and forgot. Christmas party planning. Dougweller (talk) 17:27, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Iravatham Mahadevan
Mr. Dougweller. Please note that the claim made in the earlier version that Mahadevan "tentatively supports the view that Brahmi originated from Indus Script rather than Aramaic..." is completely unsubstantiated. The Wiki article cites two other authors, including Asko Parpola, to support the claim but avoids citing Iravatham Mahadevan himself. I am a student of Iravatham Mahadevan, and know his position in this regard very well. Yet, I took care to check this with him over the phone yesterday, and he vehemently denies that he ever supported such a view. I request you to not reinstate the claim as you had done before.
Please note that the following line was earlier introduced by me under the section, Significant Contributions (the whole section was in fact introduced by me), which had been deleted by you. I have reinstated the sentence with appropriate citations and this I hope is more acceptable.
He has been instrumental in firmly establishing the view of K.V. Subrahmanya Aiyer that the writings found in the caves of Tamilnadu in a script similar to Brahmi is a variant of Brahmi, which Mahadevan calls Tamil Brahmi, and in ascertaining that the language of the script is indeed Tamil . Mahadevan went onto read the names and titles of several generations of Pantiya and Cera kings in Tamil Brahmi writings, all corroborated in early Tamil literature .
(Mvbhaska (talk) 10:30, 11 December 2014 (UTC)).
- Mvbhaska Fine, but Misplaced Pages shouldn't use the word 'firmly'. I'm not going to argue about the claim you say is unsubstantiated, but if sources meeting WP:RS say he does, some would argue that the sources could be used so long as we attribute the views to them in the article, not just the reference. Dougweller (talk) 15:13, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Marxist slogans
So you take Marxist slogans at face value for their "truth", huh? Leftists (as I wrote, and as you deleted) in fact expend their activities towards equality of *outcome*, not equality of opportunity. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is meaningless drivel when one recognizes the fact that under such a Marxist theory there is no safeguard for measuring whether someone is actually expending effort commensurate with their own "ability" to provide for themselves. Without such a safeguard, their slogan regarding "ability" is meaningless propaganda. Leftists are notorious for adopting the strategy of projecting / saying to the populace the exact OPPOSITE of what they are actually *doing*. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digitaldoofus (talk • contribs) 17:39, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
The Shiite Emirates of Ottoman Syria
Professor Stefan Winter states in his book The Shiite Emirates of Ottoman Syria (MID 17th –MID 18th Century),page 236:
“The abrupt disappearance of the Harfush emirate left the shiite community of baalbek bereft of any anciently – rooted , indigenous social leadership , making it that much more of likely venue for the rise of foreign-inspired ideological mass movements such as communism, Nasirism ext…in Lebanon’s tumultuous 20th century” I kindly advice you to read the above mentioned book, where I’m sure that this book will change all the miss concept of the history of the Ottoman in Baalback and Bekaa Families, bearing in mind that Harfush’s family ruled Baalback and Bekaa for 350 years. --Mharfouche (talk) 07:26, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
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John Forbes Nash, Jr.
Hi, Doug -- Could you take a look at John Forbes Nash, Jr. and see what's going on? Some edits were undone, but it seems to have gone back, perhaps inadvertently, to an edit with inappropriate language. CorinneSD (talk) 18:17, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
Seems to have been fixed. CorinneSD (talk) 18:19, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
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AuthorHouse
Was AuthorHouse decided to be an unreliable publishing source? --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:00, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - AuthorHouse, CreateSpace, Lulu, Trafford, all the self-publishing houses. We have a list at Misplaced Pages:List of companies engaged in the self-publishing business. Global Vision isn't on it but uses our articles, so its encyclopedias, etc fail as well. Dougweller (talk) 21:26, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks Doug! I thought you had mentioned something about AuthorHouse earlier, but could not find anything. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
problem
I was just checking Special:CreateAccount, i made another account by the name of Night Furry thinking that it will be alike as that similar accounts made by other editors but it not so i think. what are your suggestions for me. thanks --Night Fury (Talk to me) 20:33, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
- Night Fury Sounds like you should follow the instructions at WP:DOPPELGANGER. Dougweller (talk) 21:34, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
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Honorary Aryan
There is a very strong counterargument to be made to refute the claim that Hitler really did think it would be meaningful to call anyone an "honorary Aryan". Perhaps nothing could tell us more about what went on in Hitler's mind with greater accuracy than Mein Kampf, seeing that Hitler described Mein Kampf in its Introduction as, "a description not only of the aims of our Movement but also of its development". Nowhere in Mein Kampf does Hitler mention the concept of an "honorary Aryan". Instead, what he said in Mein Kampf was:
"If we divide mankind into three categories - founders of culture, bearers of culture, and destroyers of culture - the Aryan alone can be considered as representing the first category. It was he who laid the groundwork and erected the walls of every great structure in human culture."(Murphy's translation, p. 226)
It is clear Hitler saw some human beings as inferior genetically speaking:
"The favourable preliminary to this improvement is not to mate individuals of higher and lower orders of being but rather to allow the complete triumph of the higher order."(Murphy's translation, p. 222)
Even when we think of the very idea of someone bestowing the title of "honorary Aryan" on nonwhites, we're talking about the presumption of that individual that white people are superior to begin with. Logic tells us that must be the case in that person's mind, otherwise he would not think of it as a compliment to give someone such a title. Some believe that "honorary Aryan" translates to German as Ehrenarier, but one would be hard-pressed to find instances in which it is used in German writings, and that particular compound word does not appear once in the German original version of Mein Kampf.
In German, a compound word can be put together at the drop of a hat, and that is why one can actually debate whether a certain compound word or another "exists" in German, even though someone out there might use them. It appears that in the case of Ehrenarier, during the course of history, someone put together the word Ehren, the plural of "honor", with the word Arier or "Aryan". So one could wonder if we should really interpret that to mean "honorable Aryan", instead of "honorary Aryan", as some would have us believe. Another relevant example is the word Ehrenmord, which means "honor killing". Perhaps that sheds some light on the issue of how German compound words work. One can see clearly that Ehrenmord doesn't mean "honorary killing", as that would be meaningless.
So should Ehrenarier mean "honorary Aryan"? I'll let the reader decide. Doug, I've noticed that if one types the compound word Ehrenarier in at least some German dictionaries, the word doesn't come up, whereas a compound word like Ehrenmord does, which goes to show that some compound words are thought to exist in the German language by German intellectuals, and others aren't. Normally the word Ehren and the word Arier both show up in the dictionary, but in my experience, not any compound word to the likes of Ehrenarier.
Timothycrice (talk) 01:41, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- Interesting theory.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 04:42, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
To the Japanese (subsection of Honorary Aryan)
Hitler regarded the Aryan as superior to everyone. Furthermore, Hitler spoke specifically about the Japanese, more than he spoke about other nonwhite ethnic groups, and it is clear he would describe them as irremediably inferior to his own white race:
"It is not true, as some believe, that Japan adds European technique to a culture of her own. The truth rather is that European science and technics are just decked out with the peculiar characteristics of Japanese civilization. The foundations of actual life in Japan to-day are not those of the native Japanese culture, although this characterizes the external features of the country, which features strike the eye of European observers on account of their fundamental difference from us; but the real foundations of contemporary Japanese life are the enormous scientific and technical achievements of Europe and America, that is to say, of Aryan peoples."(Murphy's translation, p. 227)
So really what I like to do is write something that the reader can use to compare with every relevant bit of evidence pertaining to a particular subject; in this case, the subject of whether the notion that the Japanese people en masse could truly become "honorary Aryans" existed as a reality in Hitler's mind, and whether it existed and exists as a reality in the minds of his deceased and current followers. By the way Doug, I've written this in response to your message on the noticeboard about what I posted on Honorary Aryan, because I thought I was maybe not being thorough enough in my contribution on the topic, and maybe that is why why posts were taken down.
Timothycrice (talk) 01:42, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
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Congratulations are in order to you for having gotten the highest percentage of support in the recent elections. Thanks are also due to you for having indicated you are willing to put up with dealing with editors in arbitration cases who would make the people on The Jerry Springer Show look like shy and retiring wallflowers. Have fun with this drink, but I hope the duties of the new role don't make you take recourse to such as often as they would almost certainly make me do. John Carter (talk) 01:31, 17 December 2014 (UTC) |
- https://ia601405.us.archive.org/1/items/MeinKampf_483/HitlerAdolf-MeinKampf-VolumeIIi1939525P..pdf
- http://ia601408.us.archive.org/34/items/AdolfHitler-MeinKampf/AdolfHitler-MeinKampf-Band1Und2855.Auflage1943818S..pdf
- http://german.about.com/od/nounsandcases/a/German-Compound-Words.htm
- http://www.dict.cc/?s=Ehrenarier
- http://www.duden.de/suchen/dudenonline/Ehrenmord
- http://www.dict.cc/?s=Ehren
- http://www.dict.cc/?s=Arier
- https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#Honorary_Aryan