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Assassin's Creed Unity resolution controversy
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Did you delete the big bang theroy's wiki page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.35.52.189 (talk) 02:34, November 18, 2014
dc comics shared universe
Hi, well I'm the creator of the page DC Comics' shared universe films and I created that page based on a draft that I saw over there. seeing other attempts to make similar pages like; DC Cinematic Universe, I expected that the page was deleted Immediately for not meeting the requirements wikipedia had, but my surprise was immense to find that there only not eliminated, but the the page was growing thanks to contributors and editors thought things like Wow !, I just created an article and look it now.
I wanted to thank you and other users to improve this site and who knows? perhaps to become competitive with MCU should change the name of the pagine to The shared filmic universe of DC Comics or The DC Comics' filmic shared universe, beacause, are we talking about the universe or the films? what do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericflechas (talk • contribs) 11:23, November 18, 2014
- Well, do you still support the article staying? Because it is only a list of announced films, none of which (except Dawn of Justice) have begun filming. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:15, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Chadwick Boseman interviews
This source has links to several interviews that may be useful somewhere here. - adamstom97 (talk) 23:14, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
The Incredible Hulk revert
Have you not been reading the discussion on the talk page? I'm challenging it. I'll quote what I said, "the lead section just says, "It is the second installment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe", and that's not found in the main text, much less any mention of Iron Man being the first installment. So, either it should be removed, or something added to the main body, or it needs a reference." There can't be a "second" if there's no mention of a "first". --Musdan77 (talk) 04:02, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- I have not really, no. However, how is this any different than saying, for example, that The Wolverine is "is the sixth installment in the X-Men film series"? Statements regarding placements in franchises are used all the time without the need for sources. May I ask why you are challenging it? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:38, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- I thought I made it clear. This isn't about a film series. adamstom97 is saying that "Iron Man was the first installment in the MCU", and I would think that most readers would assume that the "first installment" would be the 2003 Hulk movie. So, there needs to be some clarification -- either in the main body or some kind of reference/note. --Musdan77 (talk) 04:47, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- I don't believe the confusion would happen, because a reader taking the link to the Marvel Cinematic Universe would see Hulk is not part of it. Additionally, the second paragraph of the lead states the relationship this film has to 2003's Hulk. As well, if it was a direct sequel, the wording that is used across Misplaced Pages would be used, which would be something like this: "It is the sequel to 2003's Hulk and is the second installment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe." But since that bolded part is not there, seeing "second installment" does not connect the 2003 film is the first. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:02, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
- I thought I made it clear. This isn't about a film series. adamstom97 is saying that "Iron Man was the first installment in the MCU", and I would think that most readers would assume that the "first installment" would be the 2003 Hulk movie. So, there needs to be some clarification -- either in the main body or some kind of reference/note. --Musdan77 (talk) 04:47, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll accept that reasoning. Thanks. I would add though that it's helpful to "ping" the editor so they know that there's a reply. Happy Thanksgiving Day. --Musdan77 (talk) 17:34, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Episode tables
I just noticed that Firefly (TV series) has the episode table in the broadcast section, and was thinking that that seems like a good place for them for a series page, which already has a separate plot section at the top to give context. I'm thinking having the episode table in the broadcast section, and then splitting it off to its own page when another season is ordered, or something like that. Do you have any thoughts on this? I am thinking in terms of Agent Carter and Daredevil, but also any other series page where the location of the episode table has been debated. - adamstom97 (talk) 05:40, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- I think because of the nature of that series, and the fact that it only went for one season with a big following, that works. But in general, this should not be a sweeping change. Only a case-by-case situation. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:38, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Shared universe
Ultimately, that may be better, but the source says "may". At the end of the day, if they aren't then it's just going to be removed. Since it isn't definitive, we shouldn't include it as if it is. The implication is that it will share that universe by including it, but we're a long way away from knowing if it will or won't. Given that we're not supposed to keep a current events catalog, it's probably best to just hold the information until we have clearer direction on that the series is supposed to be and where it connects (or doesn't). BIGNOLE (Contact me) 04:35, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) If you are referring to the inclusion of Supergirl at the Arrow page, I see no issue with saying that the series could be connected. If it turns out that it isn't, then I would still state the fact that there was a chance it connected. Another example is when it was first thought that the new Fantastic Four might be a part of the same universe as the X-Men films. Even though we have now been told that that is not the case, we still keep the info that it was originally intended to or rumoured to be, because that is part of the development of the universe, and will be interesting to those reading on the subject. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:51, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
- That's not appropriate though. YOu don't hold onto a rumor, and then follow up with it by saying, "well, the rumor turned out not to be true". We're not a rumor mill. The fact that another page does it, does not mean that it is the right thing to do. Fanboys tend to add things and then get upset when they are removed because the casual reader is not necessarily a fanboy, and thus doesn't care. At the end of the day, you're posting a teasing statement that may be nothing more than a lie. Berlanti has backed away from comments that he has made about Arrow before. Right now, you're treating the article like a current events news sources, instead of from an historical perspective (which is what Misplaced Pages is supposed to be). BIGNOLE (Contact me) 18:13, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hardly. It is confirmation from a reliable source stating that the series could be a part of the universe. That is pretty important information and something that somebody reading about the Arrow/Flash shared universe would want to know about. Even though we are in no rush we do not have to wait until we get official confirmation because then we are purposely forcing the Wiki to be out of date. If it was just a rumour that this could happen, I would agree that we should await more concrete evidence, but I believe that that is not the case in this situation, and if we get new information down the track, then the page simply needs to be edited. I have never seen a Wiki page that is not up to date simply because adding important info as it is announced would be too much like a news page or something. In fact, that is how articles grow over time. Right now the page says "In November 2014, Berlanti stated that the series Supergirl he is developing for CBS could also exist in the same universe as Arrow and The Flash." Later, if this is confirmed, a line can be added saying "This was later officially confirmed by ..." And if this is denied, a line can be added saying "However, this was later officially denied by ..." - adamstom97 (talk) 20:41, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
- Confirmation of a possibility does not mean that it will happen, nor does it impart any sort of noteworthiness to include in an article. Misplaced Pages, again, is not a current events sources. Thus, it will always be "out of date". There is nothing important about the idea that something may be connected. If it is, then it has importance. If it isn't, then it's not important at all and thus should be removed. Berlanti has no control over the connected universe for a show on a different network. The network controls that. Yes, they own a piece of the CW, but that does not imply that it will be connected. You're still trying to treat Misplaced Pages like a current events source. It's not. It's an encyclopedia. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:51, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- I never said that confirmation of a possibility means it will happen, I am saying that even confirmation of a possibility is noteworthy, especially in a section dedicated to connections between separate TV shows. It seems that you are being blinded by personal opinion, as you say "There is nothing important about the idea that something may be connected." That is your personal opinion, not a fact, and so whether the information is kept or not cannot be based on that sentiment. Also, though I agree that Misplaced Pages is an encyclopaedia, not a current events source, I disagree that doing our best to keep the encyclopaedia up to date by adding reliable information when it is revealed makes the site a current events source. We don't add every little rumour like such sites do, but when it is reliable and significant we should not withhold it. If someone comes to read about the universe shared by these shows, and sees that there is a possibility (confirmed by a very knowledgeable and reliable source) then that will be significant information. If it isn't there, they potentially could never learn it, and that is what encyclopaedias are supposed to prevent. - adamstom97 (talk) 05:38, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- Moving to my page. We're bogging Favre's down with needless debate. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 06:15, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- I never said that confirmation of a possibility means it will happen, I am saying that even confirmation of a possibility is noteworthy, especially in a section dedicated to connections between separate TV shows. It seems that you are being blinded by personal opinion, as you say "There is nothing important about the idea that something may be connected." That is your personal opinion, not a fact, and so whether the information is kept or not cannot be based on that sentiment. Also, though I agree that Misplaced Pages is an encyclopaedia, not a current events source, I disagree that doing our best to keep the encyclopaedia up to date by adding reliable information when it is revealed makes the site a current events source. We don't add every little rumour like such sites do, but when it is reliable and significant we should not withhold it. If someone comes to read about the universe shared by these shows, and sees that there is a possibility (confirmed by a very knowledgeable and reliable source) then that will be significant information. If it isn't there, they potentially could never learn it, and that is what encyclopaedias are supposed to prevent. - adamstom97 (talk) 05:38, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- Confirmation of a possibility does not mean that it will happen, nor does it impart any sort of noteworthiness to include in an article. Misplaced Pages, again, is not a current events sources. Thus, it will always be "out of date". There is nothing important about the idea that something may be connected. If it is, then it has importance. If it isn't, then it's not important at all and thus should be removed. Berlanti has no control over the connected universe for a show on a different network. The network controls that. Yes, they own a piece of the CW, but that does not imply that it will be connected. You're still trying to treat Misplaced Pages like a current events source. It's not. It's an encyclopedia. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:51, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hardly. It is confirmation from a reliable source stating that the series could be a part of the universe. That is pretty important information and something that somebody reading about the Arrow/Flash shared universe would want to know about. Even though we are in no rush we do not have to wait until we get official confirmation because then we are purposely forcing the Wiki to be out of date. If it was just a rumour that this could happen, I would agree that we should await more concrete evidence, but I believe that that is not the case in this situation, and if we get new information down the track, then the page simply needs to be edited. I have never seen a Wiki page that is not up to date simply because adding important info as it is announced would be too much like a news page or something. In fact, that is how articles grow over time. Right now the page says "In November 2014, Berlanti stated that the series Supergirl he is developing for CBS could also exist in the same universe as Arrow and The Flash." Later, if this is confirmed, a line can be added saying "This was later officially confirmed by ..." And if this is denied, a line can be added saying "However, this was later officially denied by ..." - adamstom97 (talk) 20:41, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
- That's not appropriate though. YOu don't hold onto a rumor, and then follow up with it by saying, "well, the rumor turned out not to be true". We're not a rumor mill. The fact that another page does it, does not mean that it is the right thing to do. Fanboys tend to add things and then get upset when they are removed because the casual reader is not necessarily a fanboy, and thus doesn't care. At the end of the day, you're posting a teasing statement that may be nothing more than a lie. Berlanti has backed away from comments that he has made about Arrow before. Right now, you're treating the article like a current events news sources, instead of from an historical perspective (which is what Misplaced Pages is supposed to be). BIGNOLE (Contact me) 18:13, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Audience Ratings
I noticed you edited out the audience ratings for Constantine and said "we don't use audience ratings". When you say "we", what do you mean? Also I think it is a valid topic to include. Professional critics and the people who watch a show don't always agree on what to rate the show as, and I think leaving only the critic response in the article is very misleading to readers. Personally when I research whether or not to watch something, I ignore what the critics have to say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archasimos (talk • contribs) 05:21, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- Audience ratings are not accurate representations, as they are (sometimes) geo-locked, thus you see something different than I would see. As well, they are generally skewed to one demographic (young males) and are no indication of someone actually seeing or liking something. Someone can go by and just vote positively for a variety of reasons without actually having seen the content. That is why "we" (Misplaced Pages) does not use audience ratings, only critics. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:15, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
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Now You See Me (HISTMERGE)
Hello Favre1fan93! Would you please help me merging histories of Draft:Now You See Me: The Second Act into Now You See Me: The Second Act? I've been working on my draft since September 10, and the article was created on November 25. --Captain Assassin! 03:19, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
- Will you please guide me? --Captain Assassin! 16:46, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hey Cap, in case you hadn't noticed, Favre has taken a wikibreak and wont really be active for a week or so. - adamstom97 (talk) 20:26, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Captain Assassin!: I do not have those privileges. You have to contact an admin (which I am not). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:41, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah I know your are not, I just wanted your help. --Captain Assassin! 03:38, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- I can't do anything beyond telling you to contact an admin, which I did. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:40, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah I know your are not, I just wanted your help. --Captain Assassin! 03:38, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Captain Assassin!: I do not have those privileges. You have to contact an admin (which I am not). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:41, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hey Cap, in case you hadn't noticed, Favre has taken a wikibreak and wont really be active for a week or so. - adamstom97 (talk) 20:26, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Captain America: Civil War
With the latest page creation attempt in spite of the edit notices, I think we ought have the page permanently protected.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:44, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- Just got on for a bit. I'll look into it/take care of it. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:41, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- Requested at WP:RPP. If denied, will go to an admin friend. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:09, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 and Part 2
Since these films are scheduled to share the same production, I think we should create a central article called Production of Avengers: Infinity War since most of the information will be the same for both films like Production of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, for example. We can then just include an overview of the production on the individual articles. What do you think?--TriiipleThreat (talk) 15:10, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- Yes Triplethreat, I support that decision. We had Development of Star Wars Episode VII before, and this should be no different than that. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:42, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I also agree with you Triiiple, this is most likely the same case as Harry Potter, and if the films really are going to begin production next year, that will be a long period and potentially a lot of information, so I support this plan. - adamstom97 (talk) 21:22, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- I like the idea. For execution, would we have a lead, the level 2 heading of "Production" and then our stand MCU subheadings within that? And what then would the film article production sections look like? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 06:08, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Looking at the Harry Potter page, I think the idea is to make what would be level 3 headings in a film page level 2 headings (development, pre-production, etc.). The actual film articles would then be more like summaries of the production page, using only info that is relevant to that film. - adamstom97 (talk) 06:51, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Basically what Adam said. The film articles will just have a summary of the production article, highlighting the key points without all the quotes, etc.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 10:13, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Alright. I'm not opposed to this. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:32, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- Basically what Adam said. The film articles will just have a summary of the production article, highlighting the key points without all the quotes, etc.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 10:13, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Looking at the Harry Potter page, I think the idea is to make what would be level 3 headings in a film page level 2 headings (development, pre-production, etc.). The actual film articles would then be more like summaries of the production page, using only info that is relevant to that film. - adamstom97 (talk) 06:51, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- I like the idea. For execution, would we have a lead, the level 2 heading of "Production" and then our stand MCU subheadings within that? And what then would the film article production sections look like? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 06:08, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
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The Jungle Book (2015 film)
Will you please help me getting the Draft:The Jungle Book (2015 film) back to mainspace, merging into The Jungle Book (2015 film)? Production is underway. --Captain Assassin! 02:29, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
- Will you please help me getting the draft back to the mainspace? --Captain Assassin! 03:52, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Captain Assassin!: You gotta read the messages when things fail. In this case, it would've told you to go to requested moves or ask an administrator for help. Favre is not an admin, so he can't do any more to help the page move than you can. Sock (
tocktalk) 12:55, 15 December 2014 (UTC)- Actually Sock, you know why I am asking Favre, because he was the one who moved the article from mainspace to draft and asked Mark Arsten to merge the history of article into the draft. So I'm requesting him to help me getting the draft back to mainspace, because he has experience in these drafts things and he knows admins more than me. Hope you both understand me :). --Captain Assassin! 16:20, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
- Captain Assassin!, why not just ask Mark yourself? Admins are there to help, and Favre's still on break if I'm not mistaken. Also, it appears that someone beat you to the punch but is getting reverted for not having a solid source that filming actually began. Regardless of the truth in that, if you have a reliable source that it's filming, just ask Mark and I'm sure he'll merge it for you. Sock (
tocktalk) 16:34, 15 December 2014 (UTC)- Yeah I did already, but he is not replying too. And yes the filming's underway, it's confirmed in the ComingSoon.net source given in the article. --Captain Assassin! 16:53, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
- Captain Assassin!, why not just ask Mark yourself? Admins are there to help, and Favre's still on break if I'm not mistaken. Also, it appears that someone beat you to the punch but is getting reverted for not having a solid source that filming actually began. Regardless of the truth in that, if you have a reliable source that it's filming, just ask Mark and I'm sure he'll merge it for you. Sock (
- Actually Sock, you know why I am asking Favre, because he was the one who moved the article from mainspace to draft and asked Mark Arsten to merge the history of article into the draft. So I'm requesting him to help me getting the draft back to mainspace, because he has experience in these drafts things and he knows admins more than me. Hope you both understand me :). --Captain Assassin! 16:20, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Captain Assassin!: You gotta read the messages when things fail. In this case, it would've told you to go to requested moves or ask an administrator for help. Favre is not an admin, so he can't do any more to help the page move than you can. Sock (
An apology for you
Sorry!
While I disagree with such a huge change of the box office while it was a recently-debated subject, I see that I was erroneous in reverting you for the reason I did. Sorry about that, man! Also good to have you back, I was surprised when I started coming around again and you were MIA. Sock (tock talk) 21:32, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah. I didn't like it at first, but I do know in the larger picture, a reduction was necessary. But as I said, my edit did NOT full revert back. I fixed up duplicate refs, phrasing and the like. I did add back in a bit of info I feel is justifiable for inclusion. But I don't see that being contentious. Also, I was concentrating on my finals. Finished them up yesterday, so today is "go through and catch up on the watch list" day. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:34, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- No, you did not, and that was my bad for reverting it without fully checking what you had changed. And that's what I was off doing as well, just with school in general. I wrapped up last Thursday, so I've had some free time to get back on here and do some work. Sock (
tocktalk) 21:36, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- No, you did not, and that was my bad for reverting it without fully checking what you had changed. And that's what I was off doing as well, just with school in general. I wrapped up last Thursday, so I've had some free time to get back on here and do some work. Sock (
Viola Davis
Why did you remove my edit regarding Viola Davis' casting as Amanda Waller in Suicide Squad? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlackDiesel86 (talk • contribs) 17:37, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
- Latino Review is not a reliable source. It can NOT be used. Other articles reporting on a Latino Review report can also not be used. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:44, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
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Arrow Talk
Hello, there's a conversation happening over at the List of Arrow Episodes Talk page. Thought you may be interested in weighing in. Thank you and cheers, LLArrow (talk) 18:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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