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Winter - Hiver - Zima - Зима

• Konstantin Kryzhitsky: Early Snow
• Korovin: Moonlit Night, Winter (1913)
• Anokhin: The Village (2006)
• Anokhin: The Thaw (1991)
• Klever: Winter (1876)
• Klever: Thaw on the Way
• Germashev: Snow (1897)
• Nesterov: Winter in Skite (1904)
• Kassatkin: Rival Ladies (1890)
• Laurits Ring: A brief Chat (1908)
• Laurits Ring: Winter Day in Roskilde (1929)
• Monet: The Magpie (1869)
• Monet: Train in the Snow (1875)
• Monet: Boulvard Saint Denis
• Jean Béraud: Bourgeois Outing (1889)
• Signac: Boulevard de Clichy (1886)
• Lebacq: Snow at Bruges (1910)
• Gauguin: Winter Landscape (1879)
• Ivan Shishkin: Winter (1890)
• Richard Wartinberg: In Deep Winter
• Birulya: Spring is Coming (c. 1910)
• Dvornikov: Farm with Sleigh (1900)
• Perow: Last Tavern at City Gates (1868)
• Savrasov: Winter (c. 1870)
• Savrasov: Winter (1873)
• Baluschek: Snowed In (1915)
• Baluschek: Cold (1917)
• Baluschek: Deep Snow (1918)
• Dahl: Winter landscape at Vordingborg
• Friedrich: Cairn in Snow (1807)
• Friedrich: Winter Landscape (1811)
• Friedrich: Graveyard under Snow (1826)
• Jungblut: Evening on a Village Street
• Jungblut: Winter Landscape (1885)
• Müller-Kaempff: Winter, Darss Peninsula
• Vinogradov: Entrance to an Estate
• Ivan Choultsé: Winter Morning
• Ivan Choultsé: Winter Sunset (1920s)
• Aivazovsky: Moscow from Sparrow Hills
• Aivazovsky: - Little Russia (1868)
• Aivazovsky: Little Russian Ox Cart
• Kustodiev: Shrovetide (1916)
• Moras: Sledding on a Sunny Day
• Moras: Wintry Lane
• Moras: Fishing Village in Wintertime
• Moras: Snowy Forest Landscape
• Moras: Snowy Mill (c. 1900)
• Makovsky: Rooming House (1889)
• Ryabushkin: Winter morning (1903)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	The Barnstar of Good Humor is awarded to users who consistently lighten the mood, defuse conflicts, and make Misplaced Pages a better place to be. Hafspajen (talk) 23:48, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor II
	The Barnstar of Good Humor is awarded to users who consistently lighten the mood, defuse conflicts, and make Misplaced Pages a better place to be. Hafspajen (talk) 23:56, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

You Russian

Иванов Андрей Иванович Адам и Ева с детьми под деревом 1803 - ? Hafspajen (talk) 14:38, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Ivanov Andrei Ivanovich Adam and Eve at Detmi Pod Derevom 1803. CorinneSD (talk) 16:23, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Иванов Андрей Иванович Крещение великого князя Владимира в Корсуни 1829

Подвиг молодого киевлянина при осаде Киева печенегами в 968 году

Das Kunststück, den Jungen während der Belagerung von Kiew aus Kiew ... ? ... 968

You speak German then? I have to add some captions to those pictures... in the Andrey Ivanovich Ivanov article. No English descption . Hafspajen (talk) 15:23, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Sca speaks German up to a point, but not fluently.

Kunststück (literally 'artistic piece') apparently can be translated in various ways, as "feat," "clever creation" — or perhaps what we would call the "crowning glory" (similar to pièce de résistance). So the German caption would translate as "The crowning glory, the Youth During the Siege of Kiev."

For the Russian captions, try Bing Sca (talk) 15:53, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

WEll, it translates into Swedish... Hafspajen (talk) 17:25, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Too bad no one in the civilized world speaks Swedish. Sca (talk) 17:26, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Except you. Well, since I am involved I tucked in everything here that was before - User: Hafspajen/Winter Scabox - Hafspajen (talk) 17:34, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Since you don'twant to speak Rusian today, or German - will you at least say those words in Englis but in a different way - I can't use that sentence because of the copyright.. Crops failed, winter snowfall increased and Alpine glaciers advanced down the mountainsides, swallowing pastures, eradicating communities and gouging ever deeper features in the landscape.Reword|} Come now, work a little, you too . Hafspajen (talk) 17:48, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Crop failures, heavy snowfalls and advancing glaciers that consumed Alpine pastures and villages made the era a grim one for European peasants. (Yet artists such as Bruegel found ways to portray wintry landscapes that conveyed a cozy sense of Gemütlichkeit amid the snow and ice. — ???)

Vadå cosy Gemütlichkeit amid the snow and ice? Hafspajen (talk) 18:27, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

In my imagination, I guess. Maybe it's the cozy-looking red-brick (Backstein) houses, or the hunters heading off to capture dinner, or the folks by the fire? Sca (talk) 18:21, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Lulululuululullu. How about the woman calendar I started once? Every day a new naked woman? Hafspajen (talk) 18:27, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

It's been done before. Sca (talk) 23:49, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

You don't like women???? Hafspajen (talk) 00:07, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Actually dad reads the Spiegel... Welöl just let me know when you don't want new women on your page Hafspajen (talk) 13:08, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Can you send me a nice Swedish girl? Sca (talk) 14:27, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

UGH. Hafspajen (talk) 14:38, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

HM, that was cozy. Hafspajen (talk) 15:17, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

File:La neige a Louveciennes.JPG how abot this. Hafspajen (talk) 16:15, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

The Impressionists in Winter includes many of Sisley's works, this 1878 painting among them. The commentary on this one, though is rather abstruse and not easily quotable. It focuses on a change he made in his style — faster brushwork, less detail — compared to earlier works that were more deliberate. (He needed money.)

If you want to include Sisley in the gallery, you might consider this 1874 painting of the same title, also featured in the book. It would yield better quotes. Sca (talk) 17:25, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

That one has a frame.

Hafspajen (talk) 18:25, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

This doesn't, although the colors look different. Sca (talk) 18:52, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Another blasted red link. Take a que-number. Hafspajen (talk) 18:56, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Du kannst hier was lesen. Sca (talk) 21:56, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey that looks actually great. Hafspajen (talk) 22:01, 21 October 2014 (UTC) Could be nice snaching that. By the way, I am a bit off at Russian realism. Hafspajen (talk) 22:03, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Am I the coast guard? First you think I am a hermit crazy about women - now the coast guard. I am a simple? + complicated Landscape architect + combined artist. Hafspajen (talk) 22:31, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Get out there & look for subs, you slacker! Don't let your fondness for a certain sort of Russkis hold you back. Sca (talk) 23:55, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Witamy w Polsce

I am not a seal. But I found another Cuirlionis. Hafspajen (talk) 00:44, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Where?

Ferdynand RuszczycHafspajen (talk) 13:52, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

2 a.m. in Sweden & you're still carrying on? Sca (talk) 01:16, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I know, and it was YOUR FAULT. Hafspajen (talk) 12:45, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

You keep me up searching for winter landscapers, then I found a new Lithauen-painter, and some gorgious snow. Quite exiting. Hafspajen (talk) 14:31, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

SIGH, WAS HE POLISH, LITHAUNIAN OR RUSSIAN? Hafspajen (talk) 14:56, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Polish. Ferdynand Ruszczyc (* 10. Dezember 1870 in Bohdanów; † 30. Oktober 1936 ebd.) war ein polnischer Maler und Grafiker des Symbolismus. Sca (talk)

So, the only thing is left to put everythinhg together and say This article ids a translation from the Polish, Belarussisan and Lth wiki. Hafspajen (talk) 15:25, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Moved text here for combined efforts. User:Hafspajen sadbox II

I already copied it into my secret locale. Sad-box?Sca (talk)

So you mean than that you intend to translate it? . Unfortunatelly I am not the person to Englicize that part, as I said to Corinne. She is also interested in this artist. Hafspajen (talk) 16:24, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm trying to generate the motivation for this gnarly task. Ferdy is no Čiurlionis, IMO, but I guess he is among the unknowns who ought to be known.

It's rough going. Those computer translations are awful, and there are three of them. Whatever I cobble together will require further work by the more artistically minded. Sca (talk) 18:37, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

OK. I think Corinne wants to work with it. Hafspajen (talk) 19:10, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I put a beginning in your 'sadbox II.' Sca (talk)

• Is this easy enough for you? Because I am making a stubb. Hafspajen (talk) 20:53, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Würde möglich, aber später. Sca (talk) 20:57, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Cairn in Snow Nicht spääter. Hafspajen (talk) 21:28, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Looks OK. I added a short sentence from Ger. at end. Sca (talk)

The realistic-emotional representation of the landscape is enhanced, inter alia through a seemingly endless expanse. Hafspajen (talk) 15:15, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Are you asking me to critique this sentence? If so, I would say "is enhanced by, among other things, a seemingly...." (I don't think the Latin phrase aids comprehension here.) Sca (talk) 15:44, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Just a silly gurgel phrase... tra lalalallalala... Hafspajen (talk) 16:04, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Lovely Halloween

File:Witch burning gummy bears.jpg	Hello Sca , Hafspajen has given you some lovely Witch burning Halloween gummy bears, to wish you a Happy Halloween! You see, these things promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a gummy bear! Enjoy! Don't eat them all at once! Hafspajen (talk) 14:18, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Here's the quintessential Halloween legend for you — though let's not forget the party on the Brocken. Sca (talk) 14:26, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Speaking of the Brocken. Sca (talk)

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Danzig (pre-Free City)

You’ve started me down a road… In 1914, the first year of issue for paper currency in Danzig, this 3 Mark note was the highest denomination. By the last of three issues in 1923 (before switching to the Gulden), it was 10,000,000,000 Mark. There were roughly 60 different design types (excluding minor varieties) issued by Danzig between 1914 and 1938. So far I’ve made high-resolution scans of about 40. I feel a list (with featured potential) brewing down the road. Perhaps you would have some interest in contributing/editing when the time comes?--Godot13 (talk) 04:07, 30 October 2014 (UTC) Make sure to check "other versions" to see the four-note set

I have a grand total of three Danzig coins. Sca (talk) 20:26, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Moras, etc.

Am I allowed to add my gallery to article? Hafspajen (talk) 17:47, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Which article? (But of course you may add whatever to any article.) Sca (talk) 22:15, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

.My exqusitely wonderfull (sadly neglected) gallery made for Walter Moras... Hafspajen (talk) 14:39, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, you're free to do whatever. I'm just another user — I don't have a proprietary interest in Moras and won't contest any changes you make. I still think he's not one of the greats, and thus doesn't merit dozens of examples, but you're welcome to your opinion and, being more visually oriented, probably would like to add some. Go ahead. (I included Moras paintings from Norway, Holland and Italy because those places are mentioned in the short text.)

The only articles I feel a sense of ownership about are Baluschek and to some extent Čiurlionis (though in both cases we collaborated). If you or someone else started making wholesale changes in those entries I probably would contest them. Sca (talk) 15:38, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

But I am not change any of them, they are fine. Hafspajen (talk) 19:01, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Why not =OH; what a wonderfull idea, I appreciate the work you put into that one. or something like that. Hafspajen (talk) 12:37, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Ich bin verwirrt. Is this your suggestion as to what I should have said?

Please, Hafs, if you want to add your gallery to Moras, it's in my last archive above. By all means, go ahead and do it.

Friends don't always have to agree about everything; that's not intellectual honesty. I've explained my (unschooled) view of Moras repeatedly, but I don't insist on prevailing. I've already expressed carte blanche to you to make whatever changes you like. Your opinion is widely respected by your WP colleagues, including me. Just do it. Sca (talk) 13:49, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, and no hard feelings. Hafspajen (talk) 14:16, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Got tired by that guy? Hafspajen (talk) 16:41, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

His repertoire was limited. Sca (talk) 17:56, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Winter article

How is that winter article? It is soon seasonal.Hafspajen (talk) 16:10, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

What winter article? Is it possible you've forgotten my repeated explanations as to why I am NOT writing a winter article? Check your archive, please. Sca (talk) 16:18, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, I brought that up cordially so we can go on with that, but if you don't - we leave it as it is, sorry to bother you. Hafspajen (talk) 19:22, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

But Haffy! I simply don't understand why you would bring it up again. In the last couple months we had exchanges in which I explained three or four times, in no uncertain terms, why I'm not in a position to write about this aspect of art history.

I did what I could, supplying quotes from Impressionists in Winter, which tome I went to the trouble of dragging home from the library and actually reading. Plus, I translated the short Moras article, and after you expanded his gallery I translated the missing captions. That's all I can do in this area. You needn't be miffed that I found your latest inquiry, er, surprising. It's not about being cordial. Given the history, it didn't make sense.

I enjoyed putting the gallery above together, and I still enjoy slide-showing through it. Apparently that's the end of the story, for the time being anyway. Let's not beat a dead horse. Sca (talk) 21:04, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Nobody is dead, except the people in their coffins. I never give up on anything. Hafspajen (talk) 21:07, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, may be that too. I want to go on, but if you forbid me ... Hafspajen (talk) 22:04, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

As I said months ago, if you want to write a winter-painting article to go with the gallery, I'll edit it. That's what the quotes were for. Sca (talk) 22:29, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Might be getting on it - I just felt it was weird writing on snow in the middle of the summer. Hafspajen (talk) 15:07, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Try writing on a computer. Sca (talk)

What would be the ref problem, tell me about it, I was spending time checking Madonna refs, can't find it. Hafspajen (talk) 16:24, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh, OK. Hafspajen (talk) 17:31, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I got it NOW!! Hafspajen (talk) 05:26, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks :)

Thank you! I'm glad you found my list :)
That one is one of the radical ones :)

Preceding unsigned comment left by Goose friend.

@Goose friend: the following is one of my favorite Ambrose Bierce definitions:

PROJECTILE, n. The final arbiter in international disputes.

Sca (talk) 13:52, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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Orthodox Church of the Holy Spirit, Vilnius

Thank you! If you add inline citations it would be good for DYK and worth being known ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:55, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

In the crypt lie the remains of Saints Anthony, John, and Eustathios. A tradition of the church is to cloak them in black during Lent, in white at Christmas and in red on other major religious holidays.

@Gerda Arendt: I was a little confused about what exactly gets draped. At first I assumed there were sarcophagi in the crypt, but then there's the reliquary — which, however, is not in the crypt, it's in the sanctuary, according to the photos.

(German WP: In der Krypta befinden sich die Heiligen Jonas, Eustachius und Antanas. Eine Eigenart der Gemeinde ist, dass diese Heiligen zu Weihnachten weiß, während der Fastenzeit schwarz und zu anderen hohen kirchlichen Feiertagen in rot überkleidet werden.) Sca (talk) 22:31, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

(I looked up the German ;) ) The German has no "remains", just "the Saints". If it was sculptures, the dressing would make sense, - however, how would undressing work? Perhaps the German is not original, but already a misunderstanding? I was there, but not in the crypt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, I figure "remains" is vague enough to apply to whatever's in the reliquary, if that's what's meant. As far as die Heiligen, that seems to imply more complete remains — but those were 14th C. saints, if I remember correctly.

Never assume anything, as we used to say in the news biz. Sca (talk) 22:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Lucia!

"Good Morning" Sca:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Misplaced Pages!
13 December is the day when WE, THE Swedes perplex the rest of the world by showing up way too early in the morning dressed in white tunics, candles in their hair, singing and bringing saffron buns and breakfast in bed to nice people. Hope you have a bright day! Hafspajen (talk) 10:09, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Snow in Western Art. Hafspajen (talk) 22:18, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Choultsé

Ivan Fedorovich Choultsé - did you know he was called Shultze? You have talent n finding German people. Even if they were Russian. Hafspajen (talk) 23:26, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

I wondered about that name — it certainly didn't look Russian. The spelling seems to be frenchified (french-fried?) German. There were lots of influential Russians of ethnic German descent, many of them Baltic Germans. (Not to mention Catherine the Great.) Sca (talk) 23:31, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Impressionists in Winter. Hafspajen (talk) 00:02, 15 December 2014 (UTC) — ??

• Opps, looks like some quotation from the sandbox got into the article. Is this the book you have? That was the mystical Moffett nobody understood where it was from. Was not our sources but the quotations. Hafspajen (talk) 01:21, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

• From here: User:Sca/sandbox#Selected quotations re Monet. made its way into the article somehow, we had that article in three different sandboxes, and here it was User:Sca/sandbox#Selected quotations re Monet. It does say to: (Except for the material in parentheses, these are all direct quoets.). It just got into the article somehow. Removed now. Hafspajen (talk) 01:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

It's the book I HAD (from library), and it's referenced thus with the first Monet quote:

Impressionists in Winter: Effets de Neige, by Charles Moffat, Eliza Rathbone, Katherine Rothkopf and Joel Isaacson, p. 25, 1998, Philip Wilson Publishers Ltd., ISBN 0-85667-495-8

Sca (talk) 14:22, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

m-pie

Right. ''File:Claude Monet - The Magpie - Google Art Project.jpg' THIS , : the Tartist's largest and probably most widely known winter painting, in which he employed colored shadows. Important winter work. AND it is Winter now. Hafspajen (talk) 17:59, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Tartist?

Officially, not 'til Dec. 21. Sca (talk) 18:22, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

OK; . Hafspajen (talk) 21:22, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Hafspajen (talk) 16:24, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

• Sca, if one has put a lot of energy in working out balance and layout - than one cant put pictures hanging in the air that are not adjusted to the whole other layout. Hafspajen (talk) 16:31, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

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	Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015 !!!
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