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| *'''Comment''' I can't really see the point of this exercise. The new article could simply be posted under the title, but I would advise revising it a bit first as it looks rather promotional in wording (yes, things can be promo even though the subject is deceased). I've not checked the references, and know very little about martial arts. The page under this title doesn't need a second debate here when there is nothing in the page to debate. The new draft is not eligible for debate here as this is Articles for Deletion, not Miscellany for Deletion. ] (]) 19:03, 20 December 2014 (UTC) | *'''Comment''' I can't really see the point of this exercise. The new article could simply be posted under the title, but I would advise revising it a bit first as it looks rather promotional in wording (yes, things can be promo even though the subject is deceased). I've not checked the references, and know very little about martial arts. The page under this title doesn't need a second debate here when there is nothing in the page to debate. The new draft is not eligible for debate here as this is Articles for Deletion, not Miscellany for Deletion. ] (]) 19:03, 20 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
| *'''comment''' can someone undelete this article and talk page so that people can see the article to make an assessment. ] (]) 04:28, 21 December 2014 (UTC) | *'''comment''' can someone undelete this article and talk page so that people can see the article to make an assessment. ] (]) 04:28, 21 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
| *: Please do not do that, the article had multiple contributors, but the article there was a cut and paste from somewhere causing a ]. --] (]) 10:21, 21 December 2014 (UTC) | *: Please do not do that, the article had multiple contributors, but the article there was a cut and paste from somewhere causing a ]. And the correct venue for reviewing a deleted article is DRV. --] (]) 10:21, 21 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Speedy Close''' the article was deleted as a G4 deletion, since the last AFD deleted it and the DRV endorsed the outcome, CrazyAces489 decided not to bother with the consensus of either and just cherry picked one comment from the DRV regarding recreate and AFD. He did then proceeded to do the first part, recreating this at the new title a month or so ago, but didn't do the second part until it was pointed out to him. An admin must have noticed and G4 deleted it yesterday (20 Dec) at which point CrazyAces created a blank page to AFD. The version previously userfied should be bought up to scratch (Remove all the cites to trivial mentions, blogs, vanity press and other unacceptable sources) then bought back to DRV. --] (]) 10:21, 21 December 2014 (UTC) | *'''Speedy Close - Wrong Venue''' if CrazyAces489 wishes to challenge the G4 deletion of the article, then it needs to go to DRV not AFD. The article was deleted as a G4 deletion, since the last AFD deleted it and the DRV endorsed the outcome, CrazyAces489 decided not to bother with the consensus of either and just cherry picked one comment from the DRV regarding recreate and AFD. He did then proceeded to do the first part, recreating this at the new title a month or so ago, but didn't do the second part until it was pointed out to him. An admin must have noticed and G4 deleted it yesterday (20 Dec) at which point CrazyAces created a blank page to AFD. The version previously userfied should be bought up to scratch (Remove all the cites to trivial mentions, blogs, vanity press and other unacceptable sources) then bought back to DRV. --] (]) 10:21, 21 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
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Ronald Duncan (martial arts)
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Recreated, deleted, needs second article debate as page was userfied, moved to mainspace and deleted CrazyAces489 (talk) 14:08, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
As per a suggestion by Thincat, I am recreating an article to put it on AFD so that it may be considered for main space . The previous article was deleted with one keep vote and two weak deletes. . A current version of the article for mainspace is available here or in the history of Ronald Duncan. CrazyAces489 (talk) 13:52, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment I can't really see the point of this exercise. The new article could simply be posted under the title, but I would advise revising it a bit first as it looks rather promotional in wording (yes, things can be promo even though the subject is deceased). I've not checked the references, and know very little about martial arts. The page under this title doesn't need a second debate here when there is nothing in the page to debate. The new draft is not eligible for debate here as this is Articles for Deletion, not Miscellany for Deletion. Peridon (talk) 19:03, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- comment can someone undelete this article and talk page so that people can see the article to make an assessment. CrazyAces489 (talk) 04:28, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- Please do not do that, the article had multiple contributors, but the article there was a cut and paste from somewhere causing a copyright issue. And the correct venue for reviewing a deleted article is DRV. --86.2.216.5 (talk) 10:21, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- Speedy Close - Wrong Venue if CrazyAces489 wishes to challenge the G4 deletion of the article, then it needs to go to DRV not AFD. The article was deleted as a G4 deletion, since the last AFD deleted it and the DRV endorsed the outcome, CrazyAces489 decided not to bother with the consensus of either and just cherry picked one comment from the DRV regarding recreate and AFD. He did then proceeded to do the first part, recreating this at the new title a month or so ago, but didn't do the second part until it was pointed out to him. An admin must have noticed and G4 deleted it yesterday (20 Dec) at which point CrazyAces created a blank page to AFD. The version previously userfied should be bought up to scratch (Remove all the cites to trivial mentions, blogs, vanity press and other unacceptable sources) then bought back to DRV. --86.2.216.5 (talk) 10:21, 21 December 2014 (UTC)