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I have never even heard of him. I only know the annoying Greek genre warrior, and the Japanese New Order vandal. THANKS AGAIN. JG ] (]) 20:14, 4 January 2015 (UTC) I have never even heard of him. I only know the annoying Greek genre warrior, and the Japanese New Order vandal. THANKS AGAIN. JG ] (]) 20:14, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Brinkster-net: Pls stop edit-warring over inclusion of John Fogerty-material at relevant entries - your love of quarrel should not affect Wikepedia-users' access to info. Deleting references to the fact that copyright-violating material exists is not mandated to protect such material.


== Task for you? == == Task for you? ==

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Bias against IP user

Stop icon Hello again, it appears that you are biased against me as I am an IP user. Would you be blanking my edits if they were by a registered user? I think not. Is this then, not a case that is tantamount to Username chauvinism? You have falsely charged that I have "vandalized" and have produced a long history of "abuse" on the nuclear winter page, yet you failed to show how my edits are abusive or vandalism, instead you've simply pontificated that they are. My edits, as you well know, are indeed well referenced as the record shows and they are also very relevant, contrary to your own POV. So I will be undoing your knee-jerk blanking, unless you make the case that my edits are indeed a case of abusive vandalism on the talk page of the article. Where you should have posted your views to begin with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.172.194 (talk) 23:16, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm not biased against you as an IP user but it is true that I have identified a pattern of long-term abuse coming from your range of IPs in Ireland. Your abuse is of the nature of bringing disputed details into the topic of nuclear winter, and disputed details into the topic of climate engineering. In that effort you have been opposed by Pelarmian, William M. Connolley and JonRichfield. What I'm seeing is behavioral. I'm not going to argue whether you are right and everybody else is wrong. Binksternet (talk) 01:11, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
I don't recall all of those, but in any case, isn't that just an appeal to the mob followed by a vague innuendo reminiscent of the group-think in a number of societies? Really show just 1 example of actual "abuse", in fact ask any one of the editors you listed and I'd be surprised if they agreed that I "abused" them, or the article. Secondly and far in excess, more importantly, are any of the details I've been adding scientifically disputed? No! Every single one of them is backed up. So the term "disputed details" you use is just down right laughable. What is really true is that I've identified a pattern of hounding by you and others, arrogant grandstanding and that wikipedia as a whole is a group-think maelstrom opposed to the scientific method, with folks like you calling the citation and summary of peer-reviewed articles as "abuse". That's the pattern. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:57, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Does that 'group-think' include all registered users? I'm an IP, and I also have a problem with your edits. Accusing others of 'arrogant grandstanding' won't help.
Please can you explain why you think your edits should be made to the article, on Talk:Firestorm. Just make a new section there, and talk about it. Then we can all discuss it. If most people agree, we can add it to the article. Thanks, Igor the bunny (talk) 04:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
I am not sure what this is all about, and as I am otherwise occupied, please don't bother to enlighten me, but as far as the argument in Climate engineering is concerned, 92.251.172.194 has one point of view concerning a few terms that s/he wishes to include, and that the other correspondents, including myself, agreed are inappropriate to the topic and would be harmful to the quality of the article to boot. We pointed this out in terms of opinion, logic and example and independently and in various terms came to the same conclusions and made largely similar points. By this time I think we might be absolved of complicity in any conspiracy and forgiven growing impatience with the by this time considerable volume of wasted work that we all could have expended far more constructively on other matters. After all, when argument hasn't worked and repetition hasn't worked, in a forum of this type, I think one is justified in going with a majority of competent parties who agree that a matter is not germane to the issue and is undesirable as well, even when we all are out of step with one dissenter,even if he were right. JonRichfield (talk) 07:16, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
OH, and I already have complained to 92dot about persistently not using a handle; it is inconsiderate at best and might readily arouse suspicions of bad intent. JonRichfield (talk) 07:19, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


Irish IPs that have intersected in the articles Firestorm, Nuclear winter, Impact winter, Climate engineering, Solar radiation management, Anti-greenhouse effect, Kuwaiti oil fires, Duck and cover, Neutron bomb, Asteroid impact avoidance, Chelyabinsk meteor, Hiroshima Maidens, Bombing of Tokyo, Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Debate over the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Life-cycle greenhouse-gas emissions of energy sources, etc

(92.251.237.140 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) 2 January 2015

Compiling this list made me realize that I have interacted with this person before, for example on Talk:Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Lookout Mountain Air Force Station. That's one of the effects of using changing IPs—it's difficult to keep track of who is who. I tend to think that is what some of the IP editors want. Binksternet (talk) 06:39, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

My guess, based on over five years of experience, is that roughly 10% of edits made by IP editors are productive. Thanks for all those millions of edits! On the other hand, roughly 90% of IP edits are unproductive. Can you imagine the work it takes to clean up tens of millions of unproductive edits? And that is a low estimate. Wow. What a mess!
If you want to be a productive editor here, simply create and edit through an account, so that your edits are collected all in one place, and other editors can discuss things with you. That's my personal opinion, not Misplaced Pages policy. Cullen Let's discuss it 07:35, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
It amazes me that WP hasn't changed that policy yet. After a few years of editing, it is pretty hard not to be biased against IP editors. Things would be better all around if they would just pick a pseudonym and go with the flow. But for those who don't, and are dynamic, they need to expect a little extra scrutiny and pushback, since they don't have any easily checked history to help understand whether they are usually sensible. Dicklyon (talk) 07:43, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Having read the discussion by and about this IP editor, I have a comment. This IP thinks that Misplaced Pages is a deeply corrupt place, persecuting IP editors. Therefore this IP editor is ready to be a martyr, fighting against the system, never appreciated. (Either that, or the IP may be a usage of a disruptive editor, but we have all made a suicide pact based on
With the exception of really only Cullen's addition, for which I thank you, all I'm seeing here is filibustering, followed by an open acknowledgment of blanket bias and prejudice against IP users. Meanwhile there has been an abject failure to show even the slightest thread of evidence for Binksternet's allegations - that I have engaged in "long term abuse" of articles and that I have vandalized articles. Moreover I do have a dynamic IP and also edit from work so I wouldn't be able to tell you for sure that all of those addresses were me, but I have edited on all of those articles. Secondly, I simply don't want to use an account as I prefer not having to remember another username and password combination, that's it. I'd also be more than willing to confirm if any particular edit was by me or not. That's never been up for dispute.
But to get back on topic. Apart from the most recent biased antagonism and needless edit warring by Binksternet under discussion here Talk:Firestorm. One other short and sweet previous encounter I had, that really exemplifies the hounding antagonism and nonsense Binksternet likes to engage in against IP users, is here on the Talk:Lookout_Mountain_Air_Force_Station#Photographer_George_Yoshitake article he brought up. He reverted my edits with the summary that "No source says that George Yoshitake was involved with LMAFS". So I replied: You claim "no source states George was a member" when indeed he was and indeed there are numerous sources". Binksternet never responded to this, and instead, my edit was once again removed, this last time, there wasn't even a reason/edit summary given specifically explaining why it was blanked again. So binksternet clearly shows a pattern of refusing to read and does not engage in trying to build consensus but instead doggedly blanks edits without first becoming familiar with the topic and assessing the edit on its merits. To top it all off, he then claims that I've abused & vandalized wikipedia for having ever included these well referenced edits. Which really does surpass the WP:hound line. Simply become a productive IP user for a while, I guarantee you, you'll see what I mean.
Lastly, Robert McClenon, spare me the caricature and allegation of "rage", I am simply defending my edits. If I charged all your edits as an example of "long term abuse" and vandalism, something tells me you'd challenge that claim too.
92.251.172.194 (talk) 15:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

I have never even heard of him. I only know the annoying Greek genre warrior, and the Japanese New Order vandal. THANKS AGAIN. JG Malmsimp (talk) 20:14, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Brinkster-net: Pls stop edit-warring over inclusion of John Fogerty-material at relevant entries - your love of quarrel should not affect Wikepedia-users' access to info. Deleting references to the fact that copyright-violating material exists is not mandated to protect such material.

Task for you?

Hi Binksternet! As you're one of the most prolific Wiki editors i know of I thought i'd present you with a task. the wikipage for Jack White (musician) is incomplete. Under the Discography section it only list his solo albums in the grid format, it makes no mention of his work with White Stripes, Raconteurs or Dead Weather. Thought this might be something for you to tackle and might interest you as an audio engineer! Have a good 2015! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MetalDylan (talk • contribs) 13:07, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

No promises! Thanks for the note. Binksternet (talk) 17:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Dear Binksternet,
HAPPY NEW YEAR Hoping 2015 will be a great year for you! Thank you for your contributions!
From a fellow editor,
--FWiW Bzuk (talk)

This message promotes WikiLove. Originally created by Nahnah4 (see "invisible note").

Thank you, and best wishes backatcha! Binksternet (talk) 22:13, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Greek genre warrior

Can you set up a case page of the Greek genre warrior - you know, the one who puts TECHNO onto everything. Thank you and Happy New Year.

JG

Malmsimp (talk) 17:20, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

HAPPY NEW YEAR

I might do that, especially if I see heavy action from that person. Binksternet (talk) 17:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

There IS heavy action going on him. He's always on Scooter I have put up a warning that if he continues to remove trance again, it will be back up, and any unsourced genres will then be removed. We'll just keep asking for protection. Thanks. JG Malmsimp (talk) 15:59, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Mushroomhead

Hi – I went to a lot of work fixing the timeline before implementing it on the main page, so if you're going to remove it without warning and say that "we have a dedicated article for band members, and the timeline appears there", could you please change the timeline there to the one that I added and you removed? Thanks – 4TheWynne 08:52, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

I certainly will! Thanks for your good work. Graphic timelines make me crazy; I'm glad you are willing to maintain them. Binksternet (talk) 16:45, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again, Binks! Much appreciated. Regards, 4TheWynne 22:18, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hello, contributor

I have seen your contributions and I must say I am impressed. I am new to editing and my work is centered on the 60s psychedelic music scene. So far, I have gather reliable information on musicians that lacked any meaningful acknowledgement to their contribution to the genre. I hope to start uploading articles regarding artists people have overlooked or are unaware of. I am well aware Misplaced Pages has tutorials on how to do so. However, if I may kindly ask, could you give me a tutorial that could help me understand better? It would be greatly appreciated.

Peace to you and thanks for the consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGracefulSlick (talk • contribs) 03:58, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't really know where to begin. Certainly you will find it easier to write an article if you copy and paste a similar article into your proposed new article space, following which you can cut, chop and modify the model article so that it becomes suitable for your proposed article. You can experiment to your heart's content in your own sandbox space, which is at User:TheGracefulSlick/Sandbox. After you are done working in your personal sandbox to get the article ready for the world, you can move it to main space. Or you can ask me or someone else to help you move it. Binksternet (talk) 05:34, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Help please

Hi there, I am involved in a controversy at the Elizabeth Warren article. I have argued that coverage of a campaign controversy does not comply with WP guidelines on weight. It currently has the same number of article lines as Warren's entire career section. However this is disputed by another editor who says that using "Calibri font size 11 with 1-in. margins", it is much shorter. What with such limited computer skills, I have no idea about what this editor is talking about - all that I know is what I see on the article page. Could you please advise me or make a note on the article talk page. Thanks. Gandydancer (talk) 20:44, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Sounds like an argument of one, as many other window sizes and fonts may be present. I will jump in over there when I get a chance. Binksternet (talk) 23:27, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Looks like other editors helped the article achieve more neutrality. Binksternet (talk) 21:55, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Conversion therapy

Please stop your unconstructive behaviour. 143.176.62.228 (talk) 19:01, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Please stop starting editwars. First your excuse is that I did not cite references. After I cited references you claim that my contributions are in bad English and should therefor be deleted. You are not bringing in any arguments and are just reverting. Please help improving the article instead. If you continue I will ask a moderator to intervere. 143.176.62.228 (talk) 19:04, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
You are making unconstructive changes to the article, with a multitude of problems. If I identify all of the problems it will take me an hour. It's much more efficient for me and for all the other people opposing your work to simply revert all of it. Binksternet (talk) 06:04, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

SleepCovo once again

Seemingly oblivious to his lack of support for violating the instructions for infobox officeholder at Rangel and Grimm once again. Same editor is using a non-RS source to label slews of politicians as "Jewish" (see WP:RSN). Cheers. Collect (talk) 17:23, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I have added the name of the Congressman or Congresswoman who now represents the district to the articles as well as the word (redistricted) so that editors and readers are aware that redistricting has occurred and is now being represented by a different person. SleepCovo (talk) 17:25, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
If the name is useless to readers, as was decided at the template discussion, it remains useless no matter how many times you add it. At this point it is clear that you are carefully following my edits, and that you are blatantly edit warring on both BLPs. Cheers. Collect (talk) 17:28, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

System of a Down

Hi my name is Raptorking18. I recently changed a couple of pages of System Of A Down, made some more information on there, yet you have took it off like it wasn't true while clearly a couple of their albums is Nu-metal. They are a nu-metal band according to their albums. Just wanted you to know about your mistake about the pages I edited. Thanks for listening. Also don't know how to talk to people here, first time talking to someone here, I'm new. Raptorking18, 18:36, 6 January 2015 (UTC).

Hi, Raptorking18. I saw this addition of yours, adding "Nu Metal" to the genre parameter of the infobox, and I reverted it because there was no WP:Consensus for it. The nu metal genre has been discussed repeatedly at Talk:System of a Down and there is general agreement that so many genres apply to this band that only certain ones, the main ones, should be in the infobox. To that end, you can see a hidden note when you open up the editing window, the note saying, "Please do not add or remove any genre from this list without consensus. DO NOT ADD NU METAL!!" I don't know how much clearer it can get than a note like that.
Ten hours after your edit, an anonymous editor came in and added nu metal along with alt rock to the infobox. I hope that wasn't you, because if you are using multiple accounts to push the same desired text then you can be blocked, per WP:Multiple.
Otherwise I am sympathetic to your position. I'm the one who started the discussion at Talk:System of a Down#Nu metal revisited, where I propose that nu metal be added to the infobox. However, I was not successful in changing the existing consensus. You have to respect the established consensus. Binksternet (talk) 21:50, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

This is Raptorking18. I don't have a second Misplaced Pages account, I only use this one. I didn't see the note, but i felt that I was adding true info on the page since their albums are nu-metal. I will ask permission to add the info back to the page, so can I add the info back on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raptorking18 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

No, don't add the genre of nu metal. Binksternet (talk) 00:07, 8 January 2015 (UTC)