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12 years on Misplaced Pages!

During December 2014, I celebrated the completion of twelve years on Misplaced Pages. Once again, I would like to take this opportunity to sincerely thank the entire Misplaced Pages team and family and my many fellow editors for giving me the opportunity to use my time productively by allowing me to contribute from my education, knowledge, experience and skills to this amazing project over twelve very productive years. Thank you so much to everyone concerned and a special thank you to the many readers who utilize this encyclopedia. Feel free to leave a message at: User:IZAK/awards#And many more.

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Dropping in and saying hi

I like the photo on your user page. lol. Very nice. Just to smile at you for being nice to everybody, I noticed. Regeane Silverwolf 03:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

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• Dear Regeane Silverwolf: Thank you so much for the smile, it is greatly appreciated! IZAK 06:40, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

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• Dear Trampton, thank you, IZAK 19:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

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• Added refs to Yonasan David. Will work on the others. Some of these articles go back quite a few years! IZAK (talk) 04:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
• Added refs to Yosef Mendelevitch. IZAK (talk) 15:47, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

AfD

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Meir Zlotowitz and ArtScroll

Hi, is there any way you can help here with an editor who insists on adding extraneous and libelous information to these articles? See . Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 15:39, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

• @Yoninah: Thank you for contacting me. I took a look, and while it is legitimate to add a "Criticism" section to an article, it is not acceptable to drag extraneous issues into a biography of a living person, a clear violation of ignoring the rules of WP:LIBEL & WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND that is obviously meant to smear and drag and damage that person by exaggerating and distorting things that are not even backed up by WP:V & WP:RS. Therefore please see Meir Zlotowitz#Controversy and my edit summary "Create ==Controversy==, remove stuff that has nothing to do with him but belongs in an a Weiss-Dodelson affair article, Zlotowitz was tangentially involved. Add controversy to Lakewood Yeshiva & Malkiel Kotler as Dodelson supporters to be even" . Thank you and keep me posted, IZAK (talk) 07:26, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

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• @Northamerica1000: Thank you for letting me know. I have made the correction. Thanks again, IZAK (talk) 16:36, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for your past help. I won't be contributing to Misplaced Pages again, but if there are other ways I can be of use to you, feel free to let me know. MarkBernstein (talk) 22:46, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

• @MarkBernstein: Thanks and thank you for contacting me I am honored and you should feel honored too for acting and being an honorable person and contributor. I have also responded on your talk page as well . Best wishes and likewise, please feel free to stay in touch with me. Sincerely, IZAK (talk) 04:24, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

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I apologize for reverting you

I apologize. You deleted the reference to the category "History of Israel" (which looked suspicious) and replaced it with a word which reminded me "liar" (with a spelling mistake), so I understood it as a vandalism. Actually, I know the אייר month name in Hebrew only , and did not realized that "lyar" is the English name. I am very sorry. Please forgive me. Ykantor (talk) 08:11, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

• @Ykantor: Thank you for your response. You are wrong again because I did not "delete" anything! All I did was alphabetize the categories and add one more (take a careful look again and you will see it for yourself!) You should have checked that more carefully before jumping to conclusions. Accusing an experienced editor of "vandalism" (when I have been actively editing WP for 12 years!) is a very serious allegation that should not be thrown about. We are free to disagree but not throw false charges in the heat of the moment. I have more to say, but for now we can leave it at that. Feel free to contact me at any time if I can be of help to you. Judging by other comments on your talk page you seem to be taking a lot of heat from a number of directions. I would therefore say, take a very deep breath, cool it,step back, maybe go on a WP:WIKIBREAK and never act impulsively or "shoot from the hip" because that style of reaction as we all go about building an encyclopedia will only paint you into a tight corner you do not wish to be in and do not deserve because you have a passion to help and should channel that in positive ways. All the best and be well, IZAK (talk) 10:13, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

-Oops, this is embarrassing. I apologize again, this time for the "History of Israel" issue. Sorry.

-Thank you for your wishes and kind advice. I will appreciate it if you read this talkpage section and tell me your opinion on both my content and whether I follow Wiki rules. I am sure that I am right but who knows? I might be wrong in some aspects, and it would be better to be aware of such mistakes.

-The issue is the cause to the Six-Day War. The article excludes the causes, and I want the causes to be included. I have listed plenty of wp:rs, including Arab sources, who claims that Nasser steps (during the 3 weeks crisis up to the war) made the war inevitable. Other editors are opposing this claim. It might be interesting for you to see the Israeli and Arab views concerning this war. Thanks. Happy Hanukkah. Ykantor (talk) 19:05, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

@Ykantor: Thank you for your kind feedback. In the kind of situations you are mentioning, where there are obviously conflicting ways of looking at a conflict/wars (naturally!), the only way to resolve it is by using the tried and tested way of WP formatting that would be worded as: "According to Israeli ABC historians/sources, the causes of the war were XYZ, while according to EFG Arab historians/sources the causes of the were 123, while according to other historians/sources it was a combination of XYZ+123" -- thus each side's point of view is stated as such, that should hopefully result in a WP:NPOV description and explanation of events. In such articles there can eventually be sections and even spin-off articles about the different views and approaches with the passage of time as research mounts. Obviously, "winners" and "losers" have different and contradictory perspectives of the same historical events. In Jewish History for example, Tisha B'Av is viewed by Jews as a great tragedy to be mourned for thousands of years, while for the Romans it was a great victory to be celebrated forever. WP does not choose sides, when there are conflicting points of view about still-simmering conflicts, everyone's opinion is considered and all sides get to air their views in as fair and objective manner as humanly possible. IZAK (talk) 06:46, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

@IZAK: Thank you very much. I agree with every word of yours. Will it be possible for you to write at this talkpage section too? Ykantor (talk) 20:56, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

@Ykantor: Unless I am actively editing an article I usually do not get involved in the discussions on talk pages. In fact it is a general WP guideline not to abuse talk pages. That means that it is best to come up with WP:V & WP:RS that are solid enough and insert them into actual articles in the type of "framework" I outlined above. If after that the good sources are unjustifiably rejected then it is worthwhile trying to understand why they are being rejected or why they should be included, depending on the situation. It should be easy to prove that from the point of view of Israel's national security perspective the various steps that Nasser did such as removing UN buffer troops in the Sinai, banning Israeli ships from using the Suez Canal and finally blocking the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping in effect blockading Eilat, were all casus belli that any idiot could see were provocations that no self-respecting independent nation would tolerate. Of course there are fools that think that the Jews have no right to fight back in kind or that Israel should just let itself be allowed to be destroyed. While Israel itself out of its national right of self-defense chooses to defend its national interests and not ignore provocations and then takes the steps it feels to fight back against its enemies and inflict defeat upon them. As they say, the Arabs can afford to lose many wars but Israel cannot afford to lose even one war because the war that it will lose will be it's "last war" so to speak. Anyhow, good luck with your work and do not lose your cool. Stick to the WP rules of WP:NPOV that allows for all sides to have their perspectives stated and always rely on the best WP:V & WP:RS you can find! Stay in touch! IZAK (talk) 04:26, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your good wishes and spending the time needed for reading this talkpage. Unfortunately the other editors there are biased and unjustifiably reject the wp:balance rule. It is rather difficult to be the only objective regular editor there and to see that most of my contributions are deleted. Do you happen to know an objective editor who may be interested (infrequently?) in editing those articles? thanks again, Ykantor (talk) 21:25, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

@Ykantor: Try the following Users: Alansohn; Epeefleche; Davidbena; Brewcrewer; Galastel; Yoninah; Lisa as they are sensible editors often interested in this field, as well the following who are fair admins and have lots of experience in this area: Avraham; DGG; Jayjg. Keep me posted. Best wishes, IZAK (talk) 13:53, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

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@Sfan00 IMG: Hi there! You must be mistaken because I have NOTHING to do with this image and I cannot understand why you have contacted me. Regards, IZAK (talk) 13:24, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

It's an F2 Deletion, you may have added a tag or category on a local page? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:24, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

@Sfan00 IMG: Where? No clue and absolutely no memory of ever doing anything related to this image and its subject-matter ("satanism")! Can you trace how you got to me in this regard? Thanks, IZAK (talk) 14:36, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Please accept my apologies, I can't find how your name came to be associated with this either. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:43, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

@Sfan00 IMG: No problem, and thank you for caring. Sincerely, IZAK (talk) 06:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

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Question about edit on WP article

Izak, Shalom. Today, I made an edit on a WP article entitled Cyclamen persicum. I added the section entitled "Plant properties," now changed to "Uses." In it, I had written the sentence: "...The Bedouins of the land of Israel used to collect the root, and after grating it, would mix it with lime and sprinkle it over the surface of lakes or other large bodies of water known to contain fish," but another Wiki editor came along and changed the name "Israel" to "Palestine." I wanted to know if this is deemed proper procedure on Misplaced Pages, i.e., not to use the name "Israel" when referring to this country and to ignore, as it were, the political reality on the ground, or perhaps it is because the reference to the Bedouins there occurred during the British Mandate? Just curious. - Davidbena (talk) 19:35, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

@Davidbena: Thank you for contacting me with your important question. As far as I can tell anything that takes place within the internationally recognized borders of the state of Israel = Israel. I suggest you also ask this question of Users @Alansohn: & @Epeefleche: & @Yoninah: as to what they would do in this kind of situation, and ask for the input of the fair and experienced admins @Avraham: & @DGG: & @Jfdwolff: and please keep me posted. Best wishes, IZAK (talk) 07:20, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Izak, for this pertinent advice.Davidbena (talk) 13:30, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

@Davidbena: Thank you, no problem, travel safe on WP! IZAK (talk) 20:45, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

I would look for the best wp:reliable source on the subject. And see what it says. I can't see what the current ref says, as it is off-line. The edit summary used by the editor who changed your edit was non-sensical, btw, as the editor wrote: "geographic name," and of course the name he deleted was itself a geographic name. Epeefleche (talk) 21:21, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

My apologies

I am sorry for accusing you of personal attacks and reporting you to ANI. It was never in my intent to fight or even argue with you. For that, I'm truly sorry. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 22:25, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

@JudeccaXIII: Thanks for contacting me. I assure you that I have no hard feelings, seems to me that you were just a bit over-exuberant and then over-reacted, as I see you are still "getting the feel" for how WP works, something that is quite complex as things stand. In all my 12+ years on WP I cannot recall jumping to go to ANI even under the toughest circumstances. My own philosophy when disagreeing with anyone is to hash it out on the talk pages and arrived at WP:CONSENSUS. Usually I find that those users who run to ANI are either very inexperienced or too rigid in their outlooks unable to engage in debates with others who do not share their worldview. Another thing, never underestimate the intelligence and capabilities of other editors. I always assume that I am dealing with very smart and educated people on WP with whom I can engage in WP:CIVIL debates on points of contention, and when that fails I find it alarming that some editors cannot take the heat and resort to running to ANI and all sorts of maneuvers in order to get their way rather than realize that WP is all about finding common ground with others who do not share your outlook or vision of things. Feel free to stay in touch and kindest regards, and happy 2015! May it be a year filled with blessings and peace on Earth! 06:29, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Help

Izak, I'm sorry to bother you, but I need help deleting some of the redundant "References" listed on the WP article Habban District. Davidbena (talk) 20:31, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Izak, the problem has already been fixed. Davidbena (talk) 20:36, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

@Davidbena: OK! IZAK (talk) 09:11, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Go to article "Bayt Nattif" at the Talk Page there

User:Izak, can you please go to Bayt Nattif's Talk page, at the last section there, there is a debate between me and another editor concerning the Arab-Israeli conflict. Looking for your advice. Davidbena (talk) 23:15, 11 January 2015 (UTC)