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Hi, 220 of Borg. I welcome you to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for all of your edits. I hope you like editing here and being part of Misplaced Pages! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); when you save the page, this will turn into your name and the date. If you need help, check out Misplaced Pages:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or put {{helpme}} (and what you need help with) on your talk page and someone will show up very soon to answer your questions. You also might want to consider being "adopted" by an experienced user who would show you how wikipedia works through a program called adopt-a-user. Again, welcome! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:57, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

G'day

Yeah, you know your way around, but I thought I'd leave you a template to get rid of the red link! ;) Now to give you everything I would have given you months ago but which the software won;t let me give to IPs! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:00, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

We'll start with the easy bits:

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You probably won't have much use for the other things I can give you, but if you ever have a burning desire to create vast numbers of articles or move images, I can help. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:06, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Atlantis Vertigo Rave

Hello 220 of Borg. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Atlantis Vertigo Rave, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to raves. Thank you. SmartSE (talk) 19:45, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Ok! :-/. Is there any particular CSD criteria that does apply? I feel we may need a "This article sucks" criteria. ;-) --220 of 05:33, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Bushwick

Yeah, the contributor is trying to erase the bad, yet factual history, and then to make it worse is trying to distort reality. Often time when trying to edit this particular page I encounter people like this. Even if you try to offer a rational solution or compromise they lash out. Unfortunately much like the wikipage the neighborhood itself has an identity crises. I am from the neighborhood and I would love to edit but my view would be biased too. But I will try to see if we can get somewhere with this contributor.--El Mayimbe (talk) 22:34, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Additionally, i think this contributor is perhaps an ip that made a profile for him/herself. If you look at the discussion page it is riddled with the same nonsense.--El Mayimbe (talk) 22:55, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your attention El Mayimbe. Indeed I saw some correlation between IP edits and the current situation. I was unsure about the value of the edits as, sometimes, apparently dubious edits such as these are removing vandalism/s or unsourced statements. AGF, but with your input, editors' failure to communicate, multiple section blanking, and as much of the deleted content was sourced this certainly seems not to be the case. As you feel ' involved' I would think that a full revert might be in order? But I see you have already boldly done so. I fully support your 'mega-revert' here. :)

I note that Bushwick, Brooklyn has nearly 300 page views per day, at least over the last 6 months. This seemed rather high to me, but Queens gets about 2,000, so it seems normal for these types of articles. Regards, 220 of 03:11, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you for notification. I assume this note is only because I edited the page? - 220 of 03:47, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

That's right - politeness is my middle name. andy (talk) 14:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Surprising, I didn't think politeness could be spelt with a 'j'. ;-)
• ps. I have "subst" your AfD template, otherwise when I attempt to edit this section, I end up editing the template. - 220 of 14:35, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Eh?

Got an account, eh? HurricaneFan25 — 18:21, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Shhh! - 220 of 18:36, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm quite sure it's "low-level circulation center". HurricaneFan25 — 18:57, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, page updated! Credits in the Edit Summary. How about sentence seven in the same para "On September 29, by the time Nesat managed to re-develop at 10 nautical miles (19 km; 12 mi) ragged eye," which also appears in the section Meteorological history, (secon para.) except it says "ab 10 nautical miles". - 220 of 19:28, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I think what it means is "By the time Nesat re-developed on September 29, a ragged eye with a diameter of 10 nautical miles (19 km; 12 mi)" — a ragged eye is basically an eye that is, well, ragged in appearance on satellite imagery. HurricaneFan25 — 19:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

After a few reads that's what I thought too! Fixed. - 220 of 20:09, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Saab

Hi, Im not so expoert with Saab, but have to try keep on eye on that article, there seems to be lots of editors now when it went to bankruptcy -->Typ932 17:46, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Typ932, I have been back there since, and reverted an edit calling the company defunct. The general view, without actually discussing it on the articles talk page, seems to be is that this is a bit premature. Companies do trade out of bankruptcy/receivership or are bought by someone. Some IP editors seem to be very eager to bury the company (without sources!). You might want to cast your 'expoert' eye over the relevant section (Youngman#Saab) of the Youngman Page too. It seems more than a little out of date. Regards, 220 of 18:09, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

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Answered on your talk. --220 of 02:02, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

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    See the IP's most recent message. I've emailed emergency about it, and I'm really having a hard time not believing it's a troll, but better safe than sorry. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

    Concur Ian.thomson. I added a message and lk to Subjects contact info page on IPs talkpage: Misplaced Pages:Contact us - Subjects which has info-en-q@wikimedia.org for contact. (and have just added it to Yees' talkpage too). Is that best email for this issue? --220 of 02:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

    When I was at ANI, there's a message saying to report threats of violence there, so it seemed the best choice at the time. Are there other options? (For reporting threats of violence that is, your actions were also a good idea). Ian.thomson (talk) 02:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

    Your action seems correct, I assume you Emailed to emergency@wikimedia.org. This contact is also noted at the top of Misplaced Pages:Responding to threats of harm (shortcut wp:EMERGENCY). I went to the Yee talkpage expecting a message from the IP there per their last edit summary, but appears they meant their IP talkpage, so I posted there. Then after being offline a while, came back and as they had been blocked, I posted to the Yee talkpage too. --220 of 03:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

    Adding life to local myths

    Whoever created Captain chocomount obviously has too much time on their hands. It was funny to read, though. Taroaldo ✉ 09:07, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

    Indeed. Is there a barnstar for "Best Hoax Article by a New Editor", or perhaps "Most Obvious Hoax of the Day"? --220 of 09:54, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

    Re: User:Momsagainstterrorists editing

    Thanks a whole bunch for the heads-up. It looks like we have a WP:SPA crusader going here, possibly, though they did add at least one helpful extra citation. I followed up your comment on their talk page with an agreement and a little clarification in my own words, as well as reverted the changes on RNC Welcoming Committee. I'll keep an eye on this one in case it becomes an ongoing issue. Keep up the good work! - Vianello (Talk) 06:29, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

    No worries. Some user names just make you go "Oh, no" don't they! (try 'Suckmypen15123' or 'Robotic Autofellatiing Chimpanzee" -at least "truth" wasn't in their monikers). I read your follow up comments and as you pointed out there is heaps of difference between a "Convicted Terrorist" and being convicted of "Gross Misdemeanor". 220 of 09:39, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

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        No problem -- I'm just glad I'm not the only one who knows about this editor now. :) Trivialist (talk) 11:26, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

        Possibly you should edit summary with "rvt Blocked editor" or "rvt sock" cause right now if they are editing via IP as 205.223.222.48 (talk · contribs) they are ducking their block as User:Garrejones44444777. (Along with mass edit-warring). I was wondering how anyone could have missed that sock farm at Warner Bros. Cartoons. You hadn't of course!

        There are similar problems at Garrett Morgan, where an "un-encyclopaedic, un-cited/poorly sourced, possibly including original research and non-neutral POV" edit (my description) is constantly re-added, but not 4-5 edits each 'round'. Arguing over the invention of the Traffic light for Jehovahs sake! 220 of 14:07, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

        

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        thank you for your post. I am new to references and would like for them to end up like the following format

        "Rendering for footnote full references"... the tool that you recommended search #REDIRECTtools:~dispenser/view/Reflinks

        will it create this look? thank you Georginalewis (talk) 07:36, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

        I was already putting some more help advice on your talk when you posted here. To keep the conversation in one place, I will answer on your talk page. :-) --220 of 07:54, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

        Please help me to provide neutral tone for article

        Hi, I got your message on my talk page, and I see the banner at the top. Can you tell me the specific sections that require redress? This is for Logan River Academy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgottesfeld (talk • contribs) 13:17, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

        You have already made some improvements. That 'banner' is not exactly what I was after, perhaps tone would be a better way of saying it. The page just seems to be rather negative in 'tone'.

        Please don't forget to sign your posts! 220 of 13:39, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

        The reality is that it is quite a terrible place, and that's part of why I feel the need to document it on Misplaced Pages. We've been doing a lot of investigate work, and I have primary sources, which we and others have now vetted (they corroborate) and made available online. If you've never looked into the Troubled Teen Industry, it's pretty shocking. It rocked me to my core, and we are not exagerating, Logan River is actually not the worst program kids can end up in. So, while I'm sure there are some positive aspects of the school, from the school's own perspective, there is little positive mention of it anywhere. We do note that their educational program is properly accredited, and that they are state licensed. The note about residential accreditation is very important, and relevant. It is also backed up by reliable U.S. government sources. Also, please check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN5hIcSIH78

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        Note that I am using a tablet to edit and this is my FIFTH attempt after making much longer and more detailed replies that then 'disappeared' somehow, I am therefore at my wits end and half crazed so I may be a bit terse. I started trying over three hours ago!!!!!!

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        • Because of the severe editing problems I have had here please ask someone else for further help, I have lost all interest in this page for now. :-( 220 of 02:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

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        Thanks for the invite Lankiveil. I would be very interested, unfortunately due to real life obligations, that only came up very recently, it is likely I will not be able to attend. :-( 220 of 06:58, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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        Thank you for your welcome on my talk page.

        I have a loose end with another editor. They reverted my edit to the censorship page, and we appear to disagree about what actions would constitute censorship. I think I asked about it on their talk page, but can't find that in their history anymore. I'm not aware of a reply. At what point do I give up on exploring the disagreement and put the content back anyway? ArthurDent006.5 (talk) 06:42, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

        World Point Academy.

        I've taken it down, but as a hoax or test page. I can't find any evidence of its existence, and being founded in 1900 in Ireland by someone with what looks like a West African name is rather unlikely. BTW as an educational establishment, it wasn't liable to A7 anyway. Those, if not copyvio as this undoubtedly is or spam, have to go to prod. I've left a reply to the claim that it was for study purposes on the author's talk page. Peridon (talk) 14:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

        OK Peridon, thanks for letting me know. 220 of 15:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

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        Y Santali and Asuri already fixed. Aurangabad done now. 220 of 09:37, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

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        Thanks for your feedback, and kind words. I will fix the punctuation around the references, and add some wp:categorys. I will be adding a section on same-sex marriages shortly. I will see about adding a brief section on the main Marriage page linking to the Marriage and Health article. All best,

        Bwshul — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwshul (talk • contribs) 20:01, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

        Thanks, you're welcome. It's interesting I noticed that topic area was 'missing' from Marriage and health, not the sort of thing I usually get involved in. Probably because I looked at Marriage and that had section's on 'non-traditional' life partnerships.

        • ps don't forget to sign with 4 'tildes' thus: ~~~~ 220 of 06:45, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

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        Hi, thanks for message. It's quite common for people writing about themselves to put the text on their user page either at the same time as posting an article or when the article is deleted. In this case, another editor then saw the user page posting, moved it to a sandbox and warned that it shouldn't have been on a user page. At that stage, fairly routine, and the editor hadn't even created the sandbox version himself. However, creating a new account to avoid the deletions is sockpuppetry, and I've blocked the user.

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        A11 speedy deletions.

        Hi. Thanks for patrolling new pages, but WP:CSD#A11 was not the right tag for pages like {{Horeisa]] and Hot Sandy Desert. A11 is restricted to cases where the article "plainly indicates that the subject was invented/coined/discovered by the article's creator or someone they know personally" - e.g. "Flooble is a word invented by me and my friend Jackie". It was devised for cases which were not hoaxes in the sense of attempt to deceive, and didn't qualify for A7, but were obviously made up one day.

        Horeisa etc didn't have the evidence that they were made up by the article author (though I expect they were), but they qualified for WP:CSD#G3 blatant hoax, and that's how I deleted them. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:05, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

        Thanks for advice. :-) 220 of 19:11, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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        re. I syng of a mayden

        Both makes their own sense, but to specify the 'Immaculate Conception' instead of the generic 'conception of Mary' would be anachronistic, and attributes a modern dogma to a text and period when the conception could be immaculate, but was never the Immaculate Conception. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helkaluin (talk • contribs) 15:19, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

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        Whoops! Editing late at night probably. :O 220 of 03:16, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

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        nice catch,

        this. Dlohcierekim 00:27, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

        Thanks, . Bit of luck there, it appeared 2nd on the Special:NewPagesFeed . Though, to anyone who has seen the recent discussions about the issue, and any of the bogus pages it was rather obvious. The page name and odd "Caseey" spelling caught my eye, then the layout and nonexistent sources clinched it. (I thought it was currently at AN/I, but I couldn't find it there, hence I couldn't specify the sockmaster, initially.) 220 of 00:58, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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        i add family tragedy of Leeteuk by --Sunuraju (talk) 02:24, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

        Yes I know you did, and you were reverted, so what is your point in posting this message?
        

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          Hello, thanks for your edit to this article, but I've partially undone it because FESPIC Games is by far the most common way to refer to the event in my experience; spelling out the acronym is like saying "National Aeronautics and Space Administration" instead of "NASA". Graham87 15:08, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

          Thanks for message Graham87.
          Having never heard of the 'FESPIC' event I wouldn't know. But isn't it a good idea to 'spell it out' on first use of the term? I often come across acronyms that may be familiar to the creator of the page, but are not obvious to me. I wonder how many people don't know what NASA is? I am editing from a tablet which doesn't give me the pop-ups of linked pages that a laptop would, so I am more aware of this than previously. 220 of 15:25, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

          Nope, because its expanded form is almost never used. I don't get popups of linked pages either because they aren't read by my screen reader (by personal choice), and I also hate It when acronyms are used where their spelt-out forms are just as common and less ambiguous (New South Wales versus NSW, for instance). But I think terms like the FESPIC Games, the FINA World Aquatics Championships, and the IPC Athletics World Championships shouldn't be expanded because their spelt-out forms are so obscure and unwieldy. Graham87 09:13, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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          Thank you for your message, I was also sent an automatic notification when they reverted me, but I hadn't seen it yet. I reverted their edit/s and may be at 2RR, but I recall if I am reverting 'vandalism' it's OK to exceed 3 reverts?

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              I just realised that changing suspect to something else removes it entirely from the info box, so leaving it as it is, is certainly fair enough. However in future, is there another type of info box? Or since the perpetrator is discussed in the lead, do we even need to address it in the info box at all? Ashton 29 (talk) 06:57, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

              I am not sure. I think there used to more types of infobox but they were combined into fewer, with lots of fields. I rarely add them myself, so not expert on the issue. It is actually template:infobox news event that is used, and it has a 'convicted' field, so I think you can change perpetrator to convicted, and it should work. As to whether it is required, 'normal practice' would be my guide. 220 of 07:17, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

              Yep, I changed it and it worked as stated. 220 of 07:23, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

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              Blog reference for 2013 International Child Pornography Investigation

              Not sure if I should answer you here or in my own 'talk.' I found the original of the piece that was mirrored in godlikeproductions.com . The cited appendix of contact and photographic offenses is highly reliable - I have laboriously re-checked the figures from the newspaper articles and the web-linked court documents for all 54 publicized arrestees, and the figures check out (I've made a 600-page Word document that has the primary news articles for all U.S. and most non-US Spade arrests pasted into it). The original posting of the article I found in godlikeproductions is at http://en.boywiki.org/Pedophobe_of_the_Year:Paul_Krawczyk%2CToronto_Police

              I can't immediately propose a solution for the dilemma that some readers may doubt the information because of its source. I wrote for the LGBT press in the 1970s and everything we said was considered politically self-interested and discreditable; nowadays grad students email me because the material we wrote about is part of their thesis. Perhaps history will need to repeat itself with information from the automatically discreditable deviants of the present day. To insert the information without using Mr. Najarian's compilation would require inserting over 50 references, and it would appear to be primary research. If this aspect of the story has to be omitted, we'll leave it to the grad students of 2025. Boywiki.org is offline for software upgrading until Apr 2 according to a notice that was posted the day I was looking at it. Godlikeproductions.com is - not surprisingly - a paranoid website, but it only rejects primary IP addresses like yours if someone has used them, or has maliciously reported them, for spamming. People generally should be able to see it with no problem as long as they're not using a proxy server, but it did reject one server host I was at that had been briefly subverted by a bot net.

              Thanks again for giving me the benefit of your experience.

              Dan Perrens (talk) 15:09, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

              If you were answering a query/comment I left on your talkpage then it would probably be best to answer it there to keep both sides of the discussion in the one place. You can the use a wp:talkback template on my talkpage to let me know there is a message for me.

              Boywiki.org does not sound like a reliable source. 'Wiki' strongly suggests it is a wp:Self published source. I don't know all the ins and outs of sourcing, but we do have wp:Reliable sources noticeboard which may help you check a sources acceptability. This is pretty controversial information about living people (arrest/conviction for child pornography offenses!) so per wp:BLP it must be reliably sourced. I'm not even sure if we would normally list all convictions in huge cases like this, the case is notable, not necessarily each convicted person. 220 of 16:03, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

              

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              Unfortunately, this is an interestingly marginal case, because even though the source itself is probably considered self-published, the information referred to is an accurate compilation of data from 50 - 80 ironclad reliable sources (Daily newspapers or Justice Dept. documents). The individual cases mentioned in the sources are mostly not notable, but the data, as compiled in numerical form, are highly notable (or 'is notable' if you take 'data' as a singular). Can a case be made for compilations merely summarizing reliable information? (I have some deadlines coming up and I may not be able to pursue this wiki-cratic conundrum promptly). In any case, the biographical information associated with the names of arrestees is impeccably protected from falsehood, and the persons are not mentioned in wikipedia in any case. Dan Perrens (talk) 14:57, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

              I can only again suggest you take it up on the Reliable sources noticeboard or perhaps ask at the Village pump. Oh, and you don't need to use a talkback unless you want me to see a message posted elsewhere, I get a notification any time my talkpage is edited. - 220 of 15:13, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

              The Ryan Loskarn information

              I'm still tracing where the confusion might have come in about the statement about the basement, but http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/196635-loskarns-mother-releases-open-letter-he-wrote-before-committing still says, today,

              "The former chief of staff to Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) who committed suicide left behind an open letter where he says he was drawn to child pornography because he was abused as a child.

              Jesse Ryan Loskarn, 35, hanged himself in his parents’ basement in Sykesville, Md., last week, just over a month after he was arrested on child pornography charges."

              It's not a major point, but I check all facts with life-or-death attention because I like accuracy Dan Perrens (talk) 15:21, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

              I did see other sources mention it but they appeared to have got it from that hill.com blog. It's not that important where it happened, just they he did suicide. But if we say it was in the basement, we need a wp:Reliable source to support it.

              Odd, I am quite certain I couldn't find basement mentioned, but it is certainly there! :-\ 220 of 16:31, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

              Thanks for the message!

              Hi 220 of Borg, and thanks for the heads up. I'm afraid I'm not terribly good at picking up on sock puppets! Thanks again, Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 08:11, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

              No worries, Pete! (I'm the nosey, suspicious type! ;-) ) WikiDan61 opened a sockpuppet investigation and the two socks I mentioned and an IP got blocks. And lots of "xxxxx, Wonderville" pages got deleted. Isn't there a Filipino Misplaced Pages? I couldn't understand about 70% of their postings! :-\ - 220 of 12:54, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

              Hi again, 220 of Borg. There are a lotta languages spoken in the Philippines. The official languages are Filipino and English. I guess the "Filipino Misplaced Pages" is this Misplaced Pages and the Tagalog Misplaced Pages. Thanks again!--Shirt58 (talk) 11:13, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

              Indeed a lot, "120 to 175". Hopefully the editor will find their way to a Wiki or Misplaced Pages where that can put together a coherent sentence! (in some language)  ;-) - 220 of 12:33, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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              I made a slight modification to this edit because it caused a table of contents to be rendered as "struck out". See the "next edit" for the fix. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:48, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

              Thanks. That was an odd result. The section links still worked though. ;-)

              While we're on it, my 'suspiciousness' led me to follow the 'other' editor, Nechilson's archives (they removed the CSD from Laghari's page). They led to the pages of user 'HitroMilanese' (HM) that the struck-out talkpage post happened to come from. Interestingly 'Nechilson' seems to have copied the entire talkpage layout from HM's talkpage. Funny that!  Looks like a duck to me

              I have informed HitroMilanese - 220 of 00:05, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

              Category

              There really does need to be a user-space Category:Wikipedians of Borg or some such. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:50, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

              Perhaps for next April 1. I should have though of it myself, though I don't think there are many Borg editing WP. Admin BorgQueen (talk · contribs) comes to mind, and there is BorgHunter (talk · contribs) and a few more. - 220 of 01:05, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

              I don't know about editing, but some people probably think everyone in this list thinks with a hive mind *joke*. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:23, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

              It is left as an exercise to the reader as to if BorgQueen and myself became sysops because of the hive mind, or if the sysop hive mind formed because of us. —BorgHunter (talk) 22:18, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

              Ha ha!
              @Davidwr: I prefer a 'Former Big Time IP editor' category myself, though not very practical.

              • It's nice to have some 'visitors' here, I had over 30 editors watching my IP talkpage back then. Now they seem few and far between. Unfortunately colleagues and friends from those days are no longer around, like TFOWR (talk · contribs), or rarely editing.  :-( 220 of 07:42, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

              2014 Mount Everest avalanche

              If the 1995 avalanche occurred on Mount Everest then shouldn't the names of all the people who died be listed in the article "List of people who died climbing Mount Everest"? 72.87.103.201 (talk) 06:56, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

              Thank You

              	Thank You
              	Thanks for your valuable suggestions. Being a newbie, I need to learn a lot. Hope to get help from people like you in future as well. Trying to incorporate as many changes as possible. Trying to learn faster. Thnx Shreyas1011 (talk) 17:40, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

              You're welcome, :-) , though most of the 'advice' is pre-written templates. The Referencing part is all my 'original' work though. --220 of 16:57, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

              Jhangail

              Thanks, you won't need to check for a month this time... Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

              Although it's easier when they ask to be blocked (: actually not done; given the suspect English, I'm checking it what is intended Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:35, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

              Thanks Jim. I take an occasional look at my CSD log, IIRC that is how I found 'Jhangail' again. As for that message on your talk, yes rather hard to make out.:-\. And from a look at edits on Teofilo Bastida Camomot, some wp:competence issues, in English at least.
              

              • I thought I 'knew' you from somewhere, see Mufti Mansurul haque earlier on this page from last December. :-) --220 of 06:34, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

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              Renzoy16 is a company mole

              obviously his been planted by his station abs cbn so that he could promote and campaign for his company you have a mole cant you see — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jiltsedge (talk • contribs) 15:10, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

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              Hi, I'm MCaecilius. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, مشاغل تهران, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. M. Caecilius (talk) 07:24, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

              I didn't realise that tagging it for translation would mark it as reviewed, though I had some suspicion it may have been promotional. Is that why you un-reviewed it? --220 of 07:30, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

              I thought that instead of just marking the page as needing translation, it would be good to get some reviewer who knows the language to actually see if it is a candidate for speedy deletion. Thus I unreviewed it. M. Caecilius (talk) 08:17, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

              No problem, though it took me some digging to find the log where you unreviewed the page. Still have a feeling it'll end up being a promo piece. --220 of 08:28, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

              Robert Kiss

              Thanks, I'll take a look too Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:09, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

              I made these edits, despamming, removing a dead link and spam links to commercial sales sites like iTunes and discogs. The only surviving ref is to Sunskull which is not independent nor does it verify the text. Do you think the prod should go back on? Feel free to undo or modify any of my edits, i do tend to swing thescythe vigorously Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:32, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

              Ducks scythe! (Swish!!!!) I think you undid a few of my edits there! I didn't look at the refs as I was 'fiddling' with removing the dreaded red Cite errors, which brought me to the page in the first place. Yes, he has been going around adding and linking 'Sunskull' to their webpage. He did it at Zoltan Bathory too, I removed that, but other text he added is unreferenced. Was also using WP pages as a refs, though I've told 'Kiss' that's not allowed.

              • Re-PROD at your discretion.

              • Is it OK to have in-text links to the Hungarian WP, as he has done so in several places on his BLP? -220 of 14:17, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

              • Sorry for any collateral damage! I don't know if the hu links are MoS, but they function like normal wikilinks so I don't have a problem with them. I might reprod later, after a prawn curry and Cobra Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:38, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

              No problem, I think it'll probably be deleted, for self promotion if nothing else. Cobra, or Sith Cobra ?--220 of 16:53, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

              Cobra, curry, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 17:27, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

              That looks really yummy! Never had curried prawns. Had a nice Angus beef burger sandwich and salad for dinner tonight though. :-) And it's what I call UZzZzZzT time for me, well past actually! (UTC +10)--220 of 17:46, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

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              Experiment!? Not! Simultaneous CSD templating is more like it. :-P --220 of 08:13, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

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              Disruptive edit for no reason

              Mister, what is the reason (no explanation) for coming to my talk page and deleting an entire reply I made to another editor in the China Service Medal section? YahwehSaves (talk) 06:13, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

              I am as surprised about that as you are! I actually have little idea how it happened.

              Obviously I must have been looking at your talk page history or contributions, though I can't recall why. Using an Android tablet computer it's rather easy to accidentally touch rollback.

              I am sorry I didn't notice it when it happened. Facepalm

              How about a little AGF? --220 of 07:13, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

              Empire building

              Ahah - I think they are trying to think of how to tax the sun next... solar panels will have meters on them...satusuro 09:17, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

              Santhosh Pandit

              I tend to AGF for everyone unless it's very blatant vandalism. Whispering 20:14, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

              Me too, (though it's hard sometimes ) but to what are you referring exactly? --220 of 00:49, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

              Sunway Monorail

              Erm hi, regarding the sunway monorail, it was demolished a few years ago and an elevated pedestrian walkway is built on it. I went to the monorails.org webpage's asia section , and unsurprisingly it was not found.

              Kwong Tung Nan (talk) 11:57, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

              Keep in mind that personal knowledge is not a reliable source, so we need a source for that text, unless you are specifically referring to the external link only? If we had a title for the page at monorail.org we would have a better chance of finding it. I have tried, and haven't found it there.
              If a link is dead it's better to mark it as such than delete it, then try to find it again, or replace it.--220 of 12:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

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              Ah, thanks for the message. I had a look at the Afds. AGF, but seems like editor is a 'We-invented-it warrior'. :-\ Yawn, UzT for me! --220 of 18:35, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

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                Indeed, that #£%& owes me over an hour. :-\ UzT! --220 of 19:56, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

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                You guys may be interested to know that William.Sudarpo (talk · contribs) has been 'indeffed' for vandalism. . They made an un-sourced change to EVA Air ~30 mins. after 'Sideshows' final warning. What really got me was their blatantly erroneous edit to a biography page, 3 hours after a lvl 3 warning!
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                Hi 220 of Borg, I've gone through the list of Maya articles that you provided. Many were culled from articles that I had written, but the refs had been stripped out - I've reestablished the referencing. Others, while apparently genuine, were referenced to other Wiki articles. There were also a lot of assumptions being made about birth- and death- places (i.e. if a king ruled in a place, he was born and died there... not so!) Anyway, I've put refs into most of the articles, hopefully they look a bit better now. All the best, Simon Burchell (talk) 14:12, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

                Thanks for that, as I said, exactly the right person. I think I can see how the cites/footnotes got seperated from the sources then. Did they actually copy your text without attribution? --220 of 14:28, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

                Yes, from fully referenced Misplaced Pages articles, mainly from Copán, but also from Nojpetén and Spanish conquest of Petén, possibly from others. There are also a number of articles that aren't based on stuff I wrote. Simon Burchell (talk) 14:41, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

                Well that editor has been rather naughty, but if the refs are all sorted there are much more important things to worry about, like the Nigerian sockpuppets I have been chasing recently. Only been socking since 2012!

                I had a similar ref fix once, someone had copied all the text in a section, then opened the edit window and pasted the 'raw' text in again. It had everything there, even the boxes but no actual refs! Easy to fix, once you work out WTF was going on! --220 of 14:58, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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                Nixon2

                Agree that it is almost certainly the same user. Also see Green Khan (talk · contribs) Camw (talk) 01:15, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

                Concur, think I picked that one up, here may be a few more. I popped over to Commons and nominated Bridgett Starr's calendar pic for deletion as a copyvio, and the Kim Revell pic is also being looked at. Had a look at the history of each of the calendar Matildas bio page, and saw what was happening in the past.

                  There are still two redlinked names, so I think "Nixon" will be back. :-\ --220 of 01:58, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

                • Matildas – A New Fashion in Football will be by the same guy, right? Should I G5 it? Jenks24 (talk) 15:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

                @Jenks24: Highly likely same editor. Can't see much encyclopaedic value in a description of exactly what bits of female anatomy, interesting as they may be visually, are on display. The calendar issue is IIRC effectively covered (or uncovered?) on the Matildas page. The name of the calendar, and that it was apparently un-successful, may be worthwhile mentioning there, though that may 'encourage' Nixon. Misplaced Pages:CSD#G5(created by a banned user) is a possibility, or WP:CSD#A10(duplicates an existing topic) or maybe WP:CSD#A7 (No indication of importance). User:Sam Sailor did WP:CSD#G11, it but got knocked back. --220 of 19:36, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

                G5'd it, thanks. Jenks24 (talk) 12:19, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

                @Jenks24: Meant to ping you back (again) actually. Didn't realise you were an Admin! The calendar page wasn't too bad, apart from their obsession with describing what body parts were on show, though as I said before, it can easily be covered on the main 'Matilda's' page. Even the individual pages about each player involved may not need a mention of it, certainly not that "... her left boob was exposed." Especially when some of their BLPs are, or were, very short on the details of her sporting achievements. (I wonder what would happen if the media got wind of this: Misplaced Pages Nude Calendar Editing Shock Horror Scandal, etc!)

                • However, being created by an almost certain sock puppet of a blocked editor is a problem. Is it required, or merely 'standard practice' to remove any edits by blocked editors? I presume you've had a peek at the SPI I added five socks to yesterday? Several of the Matildas BLPs were created by recent likely Nixon2 socks. ie. Traci Bartlett & Kim Revell.
                • They may be branching out beyond the Matildas too, see Nizam002 (talk · contribs) and this edit.--220 of 16:28, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

                Must admit sockpuppets and whatnot aren't my forte (might be the first time I've ever deleted something as G5 now I think about it), but my understanding is that contributions from blocked/banned users can be deleted, not that they must. So my thoughts were we really don't need an article on the calendar, but for the Matildas players who obviously are notable it makes more sense to try and salvage them. I've tidied up the Bartlett article a bit and removed anything about the nude calendar. Just glanced at the SPI, good to see that a range block has been applied, hopefully it's effective. Jenks24 (talk) 14:15, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

                More socks

                @Camw: As predicted above, I have found Five more likely Nixon2 socks. It seems they were at work even before the last socks were blocked. See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Nixon2. --220 of 22:52, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

                All confirmed and blocked! (Plus Khan and Nizam mentioned above) See SPI page. --220 of 02:41, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

                Wikilinking

                Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Misplaced Pages.

                I noticed an article you worked on. Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:

                • dates
                • years
                • commonly known geographical terms (including well-known country-names), and
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                This applies to infoboxes, too.

                Thanks, and my best wishes.

                Tony (talk) 08:20, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

                Well I know that. :-\ I de-linked a date & year there . I didn't bother(?) to de-link all the links the page creator BP50Asep (talk · contribs) put in. I actually remove quite a lot of overlinkings, though not for a few days (IGN x 2). I may overlink countries a bit. Hm, you've only got ~ 5x (!) my (true) edit count, but I'll keep your advice in mind. :-P ;-) If you find anywhere I've over linked, let me know. --220 of 09:16, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

                Terry m. ananny

                Who is that banned user? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:46, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

                @OccultZone: They are Ananny (talk · contribs). Already added to a current SPI. See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Ananny. --220 of 03:55, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

                We are probably having same time then, also check and . For now, backlog is blessed! OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:58, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

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                Hi, I got a message at that my article Spotahome may not meet Misplaced Pages guidelines and may not be retained. I have contributed articles in the past and am generally familiar with the guidelines. I tried my best to use quality references. Is there any way I could get more specific feeback about this article? Is there anything I can do to improve it so it's not deleted, or is it simply a problem with the subject matter? There are articles on similar companies with about the same level of notoriety, therefore I don't see why an article about this company wouldn't be allowed. I look forward to your feedback. Sweeeedishfish (talk) 11:57, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

                @Sweeeedishfish: I noted that a page of the same name, written by you, had been deleted before in April, See here. Because "Article ..., which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject".

                I sent you the 'Welcome' because you may find it helpful in learning about WP policies. Not necessarily because there is anything wrong with the page. However, "Founded .... in March of 2014", suggests a definite lack of notability. Each page is 'judged' according to WP policy and that page's merits, other pages are not really relevant. See Other stuff exists.

                I assume good faith (till demonstrated otherwise). However, if, if, you are connected to this website in any way, then you have a conflict of interest and should not be writing a page about it. Regards, --220 of 12:35, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

                
                

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                You deleted an article I was writing about Pádraig Ó Caoimh and put a link to an article about a different man. They are two different people with the same name. How do I get the text back? I was just about to add the references. Thank you. Dunmanus (talk) 18:13, 6 July 2014 (UTC)Dunmanus

                As shown above, I linked to the article and it is still there. It has not been deleted. See also: Padraig O'Keeffe and Patrick O'Keeffe (politician). Hope this helps. – Paine Ellsworth  18:48, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

                @Paine Ellsworth: I should have removed that 'help me'. I copied the post back to the editor's talkpage and sorted it out there. Apparently they are different political people of exactly the same name, both took part in the Irish War of Independence (Tan War), and were born only 20 years apart. With the musician of the same name (in Irish) I can see a dab page coming.--220 of 19:17, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

                Thank you, 220 of Borg, for now the difference should be noted in hatnotes. – Paine  02:08, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

                Agree. and thanks for helping. I think you are almost my first (talk page stalker). ;-) --220 of 02:14, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

                Stay long enough and you'll get more. I monitor the Category:Wikipedians looking for help, in which pages are sorted that are tagged with {{Help}}. Joys! – Paine  02:24, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

                I see you've 'hat-noted' the appropriate pages. Coming up on 5 years editing WP (first ≈2/₆ on a static IP), I have "less than 30" page watchers now, but as an IP I had 32 watchers! Perhaps a static IP that had so many edits was a novelty, or they wanted to keep an eye on me? More likely some have left WP, or haven't noticed that I have a registered account, though a few recognised 'me' without being told. --220 of 03:23, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

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                Sreeja Chandran

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                Hi Pete (Not 'Shirty' as I said once ;-) As per your edit notice, on my talkpage.
                

                I don't know if you noticed, but I heard a lot of 'quacking', on the Sreeja Chandran page. The three red linked new registered accounts all seem to be SPA's as they have only edited this page. Valid deletion templates were removed at least 4 times. (3 different editors nominated the page for deletion.) This edit here for example, before your first one. Leaning towards meatpuppets rather than socks a bit now. 'Balan25' for example is the only editor that made large deletions. Do you think I'm being too suspicious? --220 of 14:07, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

                Hi! No, 220, I don't think you are being too suspicious. Maybe they are the same person; maybe they are different people pushing the same agenda. I can see their deleted contributions, and it looks like it would support an WP:SPI. Looks like it's somewhat over-enthusiastic but well-meaning fans, though. Or, as you point out, a somewhat over-enthusiastic but well-meaning fan, in the singular.

                Even if some or all of 'em got blocked, it would appear that Sreeja Chandran is probably a notable enough TV actor to have a Misplaced Pages article: the TV network is for real, the TV show is for real, and there's no indication that the person is anything other than what is presented in the article. (I've come across some stuff that is faked like you wouldn't believe - I'll let you know next time I see something.) You could take the article to AfD if you want, but there may well be enough Hindi and Tamil language press to get Ms Chandran over the line as well.

                Oh yeah: JackofOz still calls me "Shirty" and he's been around even longer that I have, so that's fine by me. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:39, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

                Thanks for message. Considering what you say, I think I'll leave the ducks alone for now, so long as they don't 'quack' more. Getting a bit fed up with such things. Been getting far more involved in page deletions (NPP) lately and running into socks far more than I expected. See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Anzwalla for example and very 'enthusiastic' editor Boraj Tanwaran (talk · contribs), who asked me to recreate their deleted page for them. --220 of 10:07, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

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                Thanks for ur suggestion !! Saurav Lamshal (talk) 07:52, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

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                CDH Proton Center

                Thanks for your edits to the Cdh Proton Center page. How can I better establish notability, other than the links/references I included? There's a good amount of secondary sources regarding the facility. Please let me know what I can do, thanks! Also, how can I get the name properly capitalized? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IChevako (talk • contribs) 15:26, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

                @IChevako: WP:Notability may give some guidance as to notability. Adding secondary sources that are genuinely independent will help. If by capitalised, you mean 'CDH Proton Center', see wp:Move. Don't forget to wp:sign your posts. I also suggest that you make another seperate post in future rather than edit a two week old message!, though I hadn't answered it yet. :-\ . I've also underlined your addition.--220 of 16:24, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

                Don't Delete Henrik Verder

                Please don't delete this as I'm currently editing and adding references. --Geneticcuckoo (talk) 19:08, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

                @Genetic cuckoo: Only Admins delete, I just tagged it. You had a week anyway under PROD, but especially with BLPs you shouldn't put a page in the main space without references. Please change most "Henrik"s to "Verder" as we don't refer to people by their first names. I tried twice but got edit conflicts with you. :-\ About 8 places need it changed, the first line remains with his full name.--220 of 19:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

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                  @Turkmen oglu: Rather belated thanks! (sorry! :-\ )  :-) --220 of 14:20, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

                  Katariya, Ambedkar Nagar district

                  @Whpq: Ah yes, the joys of trying to maintain Copyright, NPOV, verifiability, etc., and sometimes even a semblance of coherent English on 'sub-continent' pages. ;-) Pop. 1.7 Billion (We're outnumbered! Whimper....) For a little taste more see the goings on at H. P. S. Ahluwalia. :-o - 220 of 14:20, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

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                  Thanks for the help

                  Hi 220 of Borg. I Appreciate the help and advice you given me.

                  Thank you very much.--BrianGroen (talk) 11:39, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

                  @BrianGroen: No worries!--220 of 12:18, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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                  Hello, I am going through Category:Stale Userspace drafts and helping to clear backlogs. I have come across User:220 of Borg/Rolf Aurness and I think it would be ready to be moved to Rolf Aurness. As you are still active, would you have any objection to that? Thank you, PNGWantok (talk) 22:28, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

                  @PNGWantok: Thanks for the message. Yes, it's about time I did something with some of the pages I started enthusiastically, but somehow waned in interest. Annoying when you start a page, leave it for a while, then you find someone else's page goes 'live' before yours does!
                  

                  Looking at Rolf right now as it needs some cleanup before 'publishing'. Ping me again if I don't seem to be working on it.--220 of 01:21, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

                  Tweaked it a bit and added a new source. Screwed up the move to articlespace though! Took three moves to get it right. :-\ Oh well!220 of 05:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

                  That's fantastic! Being an article, it will now show up in search engines and maybe this will encourage readers to expand on your work. Thank you, PNGWantok (talk) 05:31, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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                  Does my article conform to wiki requirements? Any help would be awesome Cwhitty83 (talk) 17:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

                  @Cwhitty83: If you mean Servicing Stop it seems unlikely. Only existed for ~6 years. Then again there are, apparently 1,000 locations, though there is not a specific citation for that. See Misplaced Pages:Notability (organizations and companies). The Misplaced Pages:Teahouse/Questions or WP:Help page may offer further assistance. 220 of 17:31, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

                  I have an article from the BBC that mentions over 600 locations would it be better if I amend the article with this citation? although I also use this same citation from the BBC in a different area? Cwhitty83 (talk) 17:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

                  Yes, if you dont have a source for 1,000 but can verify 600, then amend the number and use that source. You can use each source more than once see wp:refname. ps. It's nearly 4am here (UTC +10) so I have to get some sleep, now! :-/ Try some of the other help forums if you have queries in the interim. Regards, 220 of 17:59, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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                  I just wanted to let you know that I have nominated Jhangail (Baloch tribe) for deletion. Since you were involved in cleaning up after the "Jhangail" sockpuppets, I thought you might be interested in this. Thanks, Passengerpigeon (talk) 22:35, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

                  Thanks @Passengerpigeon:. (Pp or pee pee?) ;-)
                  

                  I'll look in on it. I've had my fill recently of likely socks, see Jalpaiguri mentioned above and Misplaced Pages talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#Jalpaiguri disruption. --220 of 01:10, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

                  Chak Jhangail may also be worthy of investigation. Created by likely sock Imranjhangailbaloch (talk · contribs). --220 of 01:52, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

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                  Thanks, it's been a while! :-) --220 of 10:05, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

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                    Hi 220 of Borg! Thanks for reviewing MadHouseMNL. I'm currently on the process of writing info about the Misplaced Pages page. :) - TheMisterbaks — Preceding undated comment added 20:38, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

                    Michael Guider

                    What is the problem with the ref system at the above article? It's the system I've always used and I can't see a problem with it.

                    Sardaka (talk) 12:01, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

                    @Sardaka: I am possibly particularly picky about references, having spent a lot of time doing them manually for ~2 years as an IP editor before registering and having WP:Reflinks (currently un-available) and other tools become accessible.

                    I have also seen the problems that bare URLs, for example, or simply insufficient information about the source, can cause. With just a title (and maybe author) it is often possible to re-locate and re-link to the source document, web-page, or news article. Or to find an alternative with the same information. With an ISBN, for example, it is fairly trivial to find/ re-find a source in a published book. Without enough data, if a good source is moved then, especially with BLPs, facts can become unverifiable. So even if true, an important event in a persons life, especially if 'controversial', may have to be removed from their page.

                    Compare the current refs #2 (formerly a bare URL) and #5, which I used cite templates on and added data to with Ref. #18, for example:

                    Sun-Herald, Sydney.

                    This ref. can be expanded simply and quickly:

                    Tim Barlass "Sex predator who killed Samantha Knight denied parole" May 18, 2014. Sun-Herald, Sydney

                    In my opinion, the original reference is insufficient. Why link the source newspaper's name to the information? Why not at least add the title of the source and link that to the source? Even better, show both!

                    • I have given #5, manually-no cite tools used, the 'full treatment' though most of the data was already there, eg.:

                    Neil Paton (1987). "Walks in Sydney Harbour National Park". Kangaroo Press. p. 2. ISBN 9-78086-417-130-6. Retrieved 8 September 2014

                    I found the information to expand and link this formerly 'unlinked' ref., purely from the title. I added the ISBN and link to Google books, now anyone on-line can see fairly easily that the source book exists, and can theoretically find a copy and confirm the information, (though it appears to be a fairly 'rare' book)

                    Ref. #18 at least has a title as part of the URL, making finding it again on-line easier, but this is not always the case. (Ref #2 for example only has a string of digits as an 'identifier'.) #18 also had the name of the newspaper source, but how old was it? When was it accessed?, who wrote it? All this information is, in my view, important from the point of of view of maintaining WP:Verifiability by ensuring that the source can be re-located, if 'moved'.

                    Another point to consider is that if you are expanding a page, you obviously have access to the source/s, and it is far, far easier for you to add its details than another editor having to first re-locate the (possibly moved or archived) source later, especially if it is not available on-line. --220 of 18:54, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

                    Having nosed back in the edit history, I see that you started this page, back in 2007. :-) --220 of 19:04, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

                    Army Men: The Game

                    Please help me.. How am I supposed to keep this article if every time I put work into it then it gets deleted. Most of the content on the Army Men series is copied word from word when it comes to the contents. Every game pretty much is that way to on here even without my involvement. It would be great to have more sources for using that are reliable. Yet there is very few out on the internet about the game. The only one's that I can even use have to be from a site that doesn't have a copyright symbol. Which would be the other wiki sites. If it was easy to make this article by finding reliable sources I can actually use. Then maybe I would be able to keep the article without deletion. However it's a old video game and most of the content about it is either gone from the internet or not able to be found. --JoshaGibby (talk) 06:06, 9 September 2014 (UTC)JoshaGibby

                    @JoshaGibby: Nothing on Misplaced Pages is really ever totally deleted. You can usually recover the text with the help of an Administrator.

                    You are able to use quotes from WP:reliable sources. Irrespective of the © symbol, you are able to use the basic information from other sites, but NOT the exact wording. That is WP:plagiarism and not allowed. You need to write it in your own words. Misplaced Pages is not regarded as a reliable source, so other Wikipedias can't be used as a reference, though the original sources may be useable. Any Wiki would not be regarded as a reliable source.

                    Perhaps the reason there was no existing article on Army Men: Video game was that there are few sources, or perhaps it is not WP:Notable enough for a stand-alone page, hence the Army Men page covering the whole series. A possible source would be gaming magazines, or newspaper coverage from the period. Coming from 1998, indeed there may be few on-line sources. --220 of 08:24, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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                    Asif Laghari

                    Hello brog, can you please let me know whats wrong with article? Since sources are clear and shows notability of person to be decent article, no matter if it was deleted before when sources were not quite enough to show notability. I've seen you have opened SP investigation, since one day some one will write an article about that person then will you again delete it? Maxiz7 (talk) 13:27, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

                    @Maxiz7: Thats BORG, thank you.

                    The Asif Leghari article (and it's many other titles) is pushing original research and the person writing it has been Banned from Misplaced Pages for pushing their unproven personal theories. And you are likely to be another one of the many (21-confirmed, 15-suspected) Sockpuppets that person has created to evade their ban, despite promising not to do so. See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Princeneil/Archive

                    Any article that consists of Original research will be deleted, any biography about a non-notable person, or that doesn't demonstrate notability will also be deleted. Have a nice day. --220 of 13:57, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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                    Thanks

                    thanks for your comments. i always try to do it but sometimes it gets out of my mind and i edit the articles without summary. i will try to take care of this thing in future --Owais khursheed (talk) 21:08, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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                    Amol Arora

                    Hi.I deleted the content that was in promotional nature and after the new notice I have again removed some more part at https://en.wikipedia.org/Amol_Arora. I am ready to make modifications if there is still any issue. Kindly help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Interactanand (talk • contribs) 07:54, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

                    Mehar Singh (pilot)

                    Hi, you have tagged Mehar Singh (pilot) with peacock and tone tags. I think you missed checking the reference link I provided. The official website of Indian Air Force calls him the Legend of IAF - http://indianairforce.nic.in/show_page.php?pg_id=296 - please refer the link. I'm removing these tags, hope its fine. Vinod (talk) 17:04, 18 October 2014 (UTC) Vinod (talk) 17:04, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

                    @Vinodtiwari2608: Actually no, I think those tags should stay. (And the correct links areWP:Peacock and WP:Tone) The word "legend" is far from the only 'peacock' term used. As for 'tone' "A worthy life was thus cut short abruptly!", one example of many on the page, to me sounds 'fannish' and wp:POV rather than encyclopaedic. And it is un-cited, though it is a direct quote (which should be acknowledged!) of which is also ref № 4.

                    This seems to be a good source, if you need another one. And I note that this seems to be the source of the short poem at the end of the page. Such quotes must be acknowledged!

                      And I now see that the page has been deleted whilst I typed this reply as a copyright infringement! :-/ 220 of 17:43, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

                    @220 of Borg: Thanks for sharing the information. Is there any way I can get post content so that I can get email approval from original publisher to avoid any copyright issues. I have recently started contributing to Misplaced Pages, I'm learning and trying to follow things. Thanks.Vinod (talk) 17:56, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

                    @Vinodtiwari2608: As far as I know, the copyright holder would have to be willing to place the content into the public domain, which seems unlikely. All I can suggest is reading up about Singh, and then writing his Misplaced Pages page in your own words. You have to avoid close paraphrasing, though you can quote from sources. Singh seem worthy of a page, just try not too be too laudatory about him, which some of the sources seem to be! --220 of 18:16, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

                    Dlasthr

                    @Derek R Bullamore: I've got 'that' feeling again! . Some of those new source titles at Dlasthr look a little 'odd' though: "No Cookies"?? All seem to be 'The Daily Telegraph' sources.

                    The Telegraph has a weekly 'free article' limit Do we have a special template to add to the ref to indicate that, or is {{Subscription required}} the one to use? I also found {{link note}}(intended for external links) and {{link note|note=Weekly free article limit}} gives (Weekly free article limit), which seems correct.

                    Apparently this is called a 'metered paywall' and allows 5 free pages per week.
                    (Metered paywall-5 free articles a week) perhaps? But if you register, "then an additional 10 per week at the Herald Sun and 15 per week at The Daily Telegraph."

                    I see the weather in Nth Yorkshire today (Thursday) is a steamy 15°. Here in Sydney it reached 31°! --220 of 10:51, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

                    I can tell you it was not often even near 31°, when my wife and I were in Sydney in January this year ! Don't mention the cricket though. Regards,

                    Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:12, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

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                    Hi, i am extremely very sorry for my delayed response and editing after your recent edits and notifications as it didnt come to my notice.Thanks a ton for your great help ,i appreciate it .i will correct it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AkhilHulk (talk • contribs) 09:50, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

                    @AkhilHulk: Well it's about time! Editors on Misplaced Pages (WP) get extremely frustrated when another editor, new or not, fails to answer multiple warning or help messages on their talk page. They feel like they have been wasting their time, or that it is deliberate and the editor is a Troll.
                    I had better things to do than keep 'chasing' after you!

                    • I edited the page again while you were writing here. I "copy edited; removed titles, removed wp:POV language and wp:peacock terms, etc." All of which I believe are in accordance with normal WP practices.

                    • The page is still not properly referenced. Cited footnotes are needed. Please see Help:Referencing for beginners.

                    • If you have any genuine problems with my edit/s, please mention on the talk page at Talk:T. S. Nandakumar, rather than here.

                    • To be fair to you, be advised I brought your editing up 'privately' with another experienced editor with an interest in carnatic music at User talk:VasuVR#T. S. Nandakuma. Note that nothing on WP is really private, anyone with internet access can read what we write here! --220 of 10:33, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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                    A barnstar for you!

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                    	Good Work Laxmi29 (talk) 06:01, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

                    @Laxmi29: Thank you. For edits related to T. S. Nandakumar I presume, perhaps this? --220 of 06:28, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Thank you

                    Thank you for your kind notices. Why is the page locked? --110.20.234.69 (talk) 09:45, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

                    @110.20.234.69: You're welcome, though it only takes a few mouse clicks using a utility called Twinkle for the edit summary message. The other was a 'custom' written message, but I actually copied it from somewhere else I recently used it. (They weren't so happy to get it and just deleted it! )

                    The 2014 Sydney hostage crisis page is now Semi-protected due to numerous, repetitive 'un-constructive' edits, here, by one IP editor, here. They were blocked at that IP addresss, but started hopping to other IPs and continuing on. I see you did some decent work on the 'Reactions' and 'Evacuations' sections, sourced too.

                    You can still contribute to that page by checking it for typos, other errors, or looking for sources and mentioning such on the talk page. You can even double-check whether other editors edits are correct! Especially newer editors who may not be aware of policies like Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP). That applies to things like naming the 'perpetrator'.

                    I was in exactly your position when I was an IP editor for 2 years, and the Fort Hood Shooting occurred. ---220 of 10:21, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Thanks for that - it's really disappointing. When are the clamps likely to be taken off? I also worked on the transport section. I didn't think that just saying the person was known to police, with a reliable news source, would be problematic. --110.20.234.69 (talk) 10:50, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Not long. It was only a short protection, but I think it is likely to be quickly protected again for longer as I think the vandalism will start again. Not sure what you mean about the naming. WP policy requires that you have very reliable sources when dealing with wp:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP), especially for 'controversil' information.--220 of 11:10, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

                    LOL, thanks - this is really frustrating. --110.20.234.69 (talk) 05:33, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Actually, so far I've found that I don't get "notifications", just the orange bar when someone posts on my talk page. I don't see a red number against my user name, because I don't have one. Perhaps the social media style notifications don't work for IPs? I find it difficult enough to edit Misplaced Pages without being expected to know exactly how to work all the different bells and whistles (notifications, pings and talkbacks) that let me talk to someone. --110.20.234.69 (talk) 06:03, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Yes 110.20.234.69 (talk) that would be the "Annoying Orange Bar", as I call it. At least it's hard to miss! I wasn't sure, but thought notifications wouldn't work for IPs. Takes time to learn "bells and whistles", but there are so many templates that you are likely to only learn (manually anyway) those you use frequently. (See WP:UTM) There are utilities like wp:Huggle, wp:AutoWikiBrowser and wp:Twinkle, which I use, that make many tasks a lot easier, but are only available to 'registered' users. I even learned a new trick from you, that talk-page reflist thingy {{reflist-talk}}, which I don't recall seeing before. 220 of 13:30, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Annoying it may be, in a "What Have I Done Wrong Now" kind of way, but it's the only way I can easily see who's talking to me. There are so many rules and so much special etiquette involved in editing Misplaced Pages, even in an uncommitted way. According to the 'notifications' page, the interface changes dramatically when you sign up to when you edit as an IP. :( The high level of assumed knowledge is even addressed on the criticism of Misplaced Pages article. I can't remember where I found the reflist talk template, but I hope it helps you. --110.20.234.69 (talk) 19:33, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

                    110.20.234.69 (talk) it certainly changes, and you get the ability to customise it a lot with 'Preferences', which IPs don't have any control of. Not sure about 'dramatically', as I find I don't notice when I have been 'automatically' logged out. A few 'tabs' disappear, but nothing dramatic. I have the standard 'skin' I think, so its not that apparent, but it is apparently possible make it look totally different, even screen colour I think.

                    I need some sleep, as that siege happened just as I was just going to bed (almost 2 days ago!) and I haven't had enough since so I'll be off-line for at least 6 hours (if I'm lucky!) What I call 'UzT' (Universal zleepy Time, as in Zzzzz Zzz) :-\ ₪ 220 of 20:20, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

                    My apologies; I did not mean to curse.

                    Yezohtz2 (talk) 11:31, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Andy Mabbett

                    Hi 220, regarding this edit, you might be interested to know that User:Pigsonthewing is indeed the same person as Andy Mabbett. All the best, Wittylama 14:03, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

                    @Wittylama: You're not telling me a 'porker' are you? Thanks for that, I was slightly tempted to link it, there not being that many 'Andy Mabbetts' about, I imagine. (and most definitely the first Google search result, hell the first 20 plus!) Should he be linked on the WP-in-residence page then?

                    • Dictionary of Sydney eh? Maybe you can confirm for me whether Arthur Stace (Mr Eternity) was born in Redfern-1885, or Balmain-1884? 220 of 19:42, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

                    • I don't think this or even is 'Pigsotw' though. --220 of 19:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Certainly true that neither of those images is the Andy I know - although he does have an excellent beard! The link between user:Pigsonthewing and Andy Mabbett (editor of a Ping Floyd fan magazine The Amazing Pudding), is that Pigs on the Wing is a Pink Floyd song :-) Up to you two to decide how the linking should go!

                    With regards to Arthur Stace, both the ADB and the DoS say he was born in Redfern in 1885, and the 1884-Balmain claim in the WP biography is uncited so I don't know where that claim comes from. Wittylama 20:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Indeed uncited! I think DoS used ADB as a source. I might have to drop an Email to ADB for more info! Maybe Trove has a newspaper source? See Misplaced Pages:Australian Wikipedians' notice board#Arthur Stace birthplace etc for 'dramahz' over the issue. --220 of 21:04, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

                    My ears are burning! Thank you. I'm ambivalent about the link. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:29, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

                    @Pigsonthewing:Yep, once it's on-line it never goes away. (my own on-line presence is much more restricted ... I hope, I must Google me again soon!)

                    • I too have a hirsute chin (not so much on top, a bit like Johannes Brahms 'in mid-career') enjoy it while it lasts!)

                    • If you haven't checked out the pics I linked to ↑, see the whole series here.

                    • Before I de-linked that Mabbett link it was going to your WP:userpage! I'll leave it for now, and I was going to UzT (sleep) about 2.5 hours ago! Zzzzz ZzzzZzZz 220 of 22:34, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

                    @Wittylama: Ping Floyd fan magazine?, "Which ones Ping?" 220 of 22:34, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

                    oh, Ping Floyd? That was their earlier experimental phase - only real fans would know about it :-P :-P Wittylama 23:02, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Perhaps they foresaw the Internet 'Ping'. Or, maybe you were thinking of 'Pig' Floyd (aka, Pigs-on-the-wing Floyd' er... 'Mabbett Floyd'?). Now time for 'breakfast' (it's ≈ 14:45 local), and then time to 'start Christmas shopping! 220 of 03:45, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

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                    A barnstar for you!

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                    	U Welcome and follow up! Heads up on that. —Sadat (Masssly)❤Talk☮C☺Email☯ 10:55, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

                    @Masssly: Thanks for the barnstar. I gather this is in relation to those unsourced Indian village pages that certain new editors are edit warring over? I've left a message on the India noticeboard about them here. (One complicated sig you've got there! )--220 of 11:46, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Certainly, happy editing & happy new year. And here goes my sig again :) —Sadat (Masssly)❤Talk☮C☺Email☯ 11:55, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Getting rather tired of reverting 'rahul and 'aryan'! AGF? Yeh, Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!-220 of 12:34, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

                    Article tagged for Notability

                    I am a new contributor to Misplaced Pages and just read this article http://searchengineland.com/open-letter-to-wikipedia-editors-yes-matt-cutts-is-notable-10216 and it seems that Misplaced Pages is not really following its own guidelines. Another example in this article - https://en.wikipedia.org/Rahul_Mewawalla You tagged the article for "notability." As a test, I used Wiki's notability guidelines and ran some tests - the subject has been featured in both Wall Street Journal and CNN, not to mention Forbes, FastCompany, TechCrunch, Harvard Business Review etc. I also did a Google News search and the subject comes up in over 20 publications and also ran a number of different other wikipedia notability guidelines tests that the subject fulfilled. So I'd request you to please do the same and see if you may change your judgement. If not, then please go ahead and lets just delete article per speedy deletion. Walesgreens (talk) 21:44, 3 January 2015 (UTC)Thanks. —Walesgreens (talk) 22:51, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

                    Please check back at the discussion of Polaroid Kiss on BLPN

                    Would you please weigh in again at the above discussion. It has become even more of a wall of text. I thought we had reached a consensus on the matter but it seems not. JBH (talk) 20:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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