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Don't delete what you don't carefully research ... and don't question the integrity of Wiki authors based on your unfounded suspicions
The VeloceToday and San Jose Mercury articles on Scuderia Non Originale appeared exactly as were printed on the group's website. The publication date, authors and content were accurate. Instead of looking them up, you as much as called me a liar. That wasn't nice or in keeping with Misplaced Pages guidelines. Shall we now delete you?
Below is the web content you ignored. If you don't trust it, go to the VeloceToday.com website and buy a subscription to the Mercury News that enables you to access their library:
Ripped from yesterday’s headlines
The 21st Annual All Italian Car and Motorcycle Show The following article is excerpted from the October 14, 2008 issue of VeloceToday.com, an excellent on-line publication devoted to Italian cars of all types. It was written by Brandes Elitch.
The San Francisco Bay area has many car events, but if you have an Italian car, chances are your favorite is the Italian car show held in Alameda, a charming town just fifteen minutes east of the Bay Bridge.
Steve Smith Sprint from VeloceToday The show is held the first or second weekend in October, which is just before the first rains of the season usually appear, so weather is never an issue. How many neighborhood car shows do you have in your neighborhood where the majority of cars are Alfa Romeos? It seems that Alfa owners are a particularly interesting lot, although this does seem like a hopeless generalization, and here (is one) that I found particularly so.
…Steven Smith showed his 1959 Giulietta Sprint, which he has owned since 1973, when he bought this car and a 750 Sprint in a wrecking yard for $300 (for the pair). Alfa means “Always Looking For Another” and Steve has done his best to fulfill this role, having had many cars over the years, but this is the one that stayed. He upgraded it with parts from his Guilia SS, which was hit by a garbage truck when parked in front of his house, and totaled by the insurance company (arghh!). As a result, every time he showed the car, someone would say,”This is a nice car, but (this or that) is not original.” In 2004, Steve met other Alfisti who were experiencing the same exasperating comments, so they formed Scuderia Non-Originale. It now has about 150 members, and Steve proudly displayes the club decal on his car. The club has no rules, but has entertained two mottoes: “Veni, Vidi, Veloce” (I came, I saw, I went fast), and for older cars: “Andiamo Lentimente Fumando Assaiâ” (We go slowly, spewing smoke). I think that this club is one of the more promising developments in the car collecting hobby, and you can read about it at www.gwandrw.com.
(Steve represents a ) passionate, knowledgeable, charming, and discerning car guy, in short, typical Alfa owners. There were dozens of other like minded Alfisti there, most of them with equally interesting stories. It is shows like this, with its $5 entry fee, and convenient parking, that make you glad you’re a car guy!
The story below appeared in the July 15, 2005 edition of the San Jose Mercury News, San Jose, Californa. The Mercury is a major metropolitan newspaper, covering the San Francisco Bay Area. Our story was the lead item in a popular column written by Leigh Weimers. Reprinted with permission.
Team takes pride in non-originality
By Leigh Weimers
Sweet are the uses of adversity. That applies not only to William Shakespeare, who said it first, but also to the sports car scene today.
Steve Smith and Richard Lane of Santa Clara, Ben Lamprecht of Mountain View, Ted Williams of Los Altos, Tom Sahines of Milpitas and Gary Williams of Sunnyvale were showing off their Alfa Romeos last year at Concorso Italiano, the big Italian car event that precedes the Monterey Historics races at Laguna Seca each August. But, relates Gary Williams, “Throughout the day we noticed that a number of people who wandered by grumbled and muttered because our cars are not entirely original. We have non-stock engines, different upholstery, different wheels, etc. Our quip of the day became, “Well, it’s nice, but not original.”
Thus dissed, the six decided to roll with it. As a joke, they named their team Scuderia Non Originale, Italian for “team not original.” Gary tacked a Scuderia page onto his personal Web site (www.gwandrw.com) and they had Scuderia stickers made for their cars, based on the decades-old Alfa racing symbol. Then things took off.
“Little did we know that Scuderia NO would become a hit with Italian car enthusiasts who find us and sign up for our free membership, even though we don’t advertise and all we offer is the guarantee of NO dues, NO meetings, NO publications and absolutely NO relevance,” Gary notes. Branches even have sprung up in England, the Netherlands, South Africa and, of course, Italy. Their furthest outpost: Balad, Iraq, where member Russ Turner of Texas displays the team’s colors on his battered U.S. Air Force Humvee. And yes, the team will be back at the Concorso on the Monterey Peninsula on Aug. 19. Standing proudly while purists sniff at their modified Alfas. The cars may be non-original, but their owners’ creativity isn’t.
ScuderiaNOman (talk) 08:34, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
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Arc Light Controversy
This is a picture that I made from a newspaper in the public domain. Please restore it. I own that blog. And, the article is from a public source. You should be more careful before doing speedy deletion and check that it's in the public domain. PLEASE FIX THE PROBLEM THAT YOU CREATED.Keizers (talk) 14:22, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Keizers: First, do not yell. It's Uncivil and generally a way to get ignored. Second, what was the image called? Lor 23:11, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Lor:, he's referring to the article Arc Light Controversy. The copyright issues came not from the news articles, but from the opening paragraph of his blog, which he cut/pasted as-is into the article. From what I can see, this was not taken from any of the articles and is his own work, meaning that this is his summary of the event in question. @Keizers:, you can submit a ticket to WP:ORTS giving permission to use the material on Misplaced Pages, but this doesn't solve the larger issue of notability. The thing is, not every event is all that notable when it comes to the grand scheme of things. This looks to be little more than a small incident between neighbors that gained some small notice from one local paper, but was completely ignored by the world at large and all of the other papers. It looks to be so non-notable that even the local papers chose not to archive the material in their online databases, which is really saying something. It also brings up the concern that since we can only source this to your blog, we can't really verify the information to the point that Misplaced Pages requires. While I don't necessarily think that this is the case, we've had a few instances of people coming on to Misplaced Pages to create hoax articles by using made up newspaper articles. Mostly this was done as part of a class project, but it has happened and we really would need some proof other than pictures on your blog. But like I said, I don't think that this is you trying to spread a hoax- just you writing about something that would be considered non-notable per Misplaced Pages's guidelines. Not everything that has happened merits an article and while it has some merit as one of those "strange cases in local history" things, it just doesn't pass notability guidelines and would still have been speedyable as WP:A7 for the most part. Even if it was restored, deletion would have been inevitable in this situation- if not by speedy deletion then by a second AfD. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:05, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- You should have initiated a discussion about deletion, there was no reason to use speedy deletion, because then there is no way to recover it if you are wrong. I still maintain that you should be more careful and take note of what you are deleting and where it actually comes from. If I yell it's because this is such an annoying action by *some* administrators, although it does seem to happen much more on Spanish Misplaced Pages than here on English. Nevertheless really, really annoying. You do so much work and then it's just zapped, forever, with no discussion, and as you admit, it was viable for a discussion. Keizers (talk) 01:55, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Deletion of Haji Springer
Hello! Tokyo's Girl why the hell you delete the article Haji Springer..?? It wasn't violating any of wikipedia's rights. Then what was the problem..!!????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SMusaRaza (talk • contribs) 08:19, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- First, I would like to ask that you not use strong language on Misplaced Pages. I understand that you are upset, but please do not curse. Secondly, the page was deleted via a deletion discussion in October 2010 and the version I deleted did not show how Springer passed notability guidelines in a manner that would overturn the prior articles for deletion process. If you want to contest the deletion then you will need to take this to deletion review. (WP:DRV) However I do note that you came onto this page soon after Mnaqvii was blocked by Favonian (and he received a warning from Lor), which makes me concerned that you are the same person operating under multiple accounts or you are someone that was asked by Mnaqvii to come on to Misplaced Pages to make these edits (what we call meatpuppetry). I also need to warn you that if this is a case of one person making multiple accounts or one person getting a handful of people to make accounts for a single purpose, this can be fairly easily detected by the people at WP:SPI and can lead to permanent blocks depending on the circumstances. Please understand that neither of these things are really acceptable on Misplaced Pages and that the only way to get the page properly re-created is to go through deletion review. Vandalizing my user page, trying to re-create the page without going through deletion review, or cursing me out on my talk page is not a good way to get things done. As far as the article went, it still didn't show how Springer met the standards of WP:MUSBIO because it ultimately lacked coverage in reliable sources (WP:RS). The article had WP:PRIMARY sources like YouTube, iTunes, and his official facebook page, but it didn't show where he'd been the focus of news coverage in reliable sources. The BBC link didn't really show any notability since it came across like a routine database listing and doesn't show if his music was played nationally or anything like that. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 11:55, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Ok Sorry for that but I don't know that who is Mnaqvii. So can I get that article back..?? 😊 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SMusaRaza (talk • contribs) 14:55, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- No. You have to go through deletion review to argue for the page to be returned. There's no other alternative- you have to go through deletion review (WP:DRV). I also have to admit that I find it very, very hard to believe that you do not know who Mnaqvii is, considering that you have both edited a lot of the same articles. I have to warn you: there are ways to check and see if you are the same person or someone that is related to Mnaqvii in one form or another (ie, a friend or co-worker that was brought on to also edit the page, which we sometimes call WP:MEATPUPPETRY), so if you are the same person or related to one another then you need to say this up front. (Sockpuppet investigations) If you're just co-workers or friends editing together then you can make a good case to keep your account and sometimes even if you are the same account the SPI admin will let you keep the primary account. However if you lie about it either way and you get caught, it's extremely likely that all of the accounts will be blocked because you tried to hide this association. Seriously, I can't stress how important it is to be honest about having multiple accounts or working together with other editors on a specific set of pages. This stuff is pretty easily discovered and I'm not the only person that suspects that you're either the same person or a couple of people working together. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:29, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Try this....
Check THIS. Considering the cast and the political climate of the early 70s, it is likely that reviews and other coverage exists to meet WP:NF. Care to assist in expansion? Schmidt, 02:45, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- I had the time... and with your inspiration went ahead and completed The President's Plane is Missing (film). What'cha think?
Schmidt, 04:15, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Persistent editor
Strawberryboy.gsp is at it again. Would you please review the situation, as the previous blocking admin? Thanks, and best merry festive seasonal Christmas wishes, BethNaught (talk) 08:51, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- BethNaught, I've perma blocked him. I feel like a grinch for doing this on Christmas (XD), but well... Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:34, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever
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User talk:Cthwikia
Hi, please note the last comment from this account about having created another account. You're more attuned to this little drama than I am, so if you notice anything suspicious, please let me know or reopen the SPI, whichever you prefer. Regards.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:21, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: It doesn't surprise me and I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up having to do an IP range block or something similar because of how single minded that editor seems to be (and I'm pretty convinced now that this is all one person doing all of this). I don't know what Alexander did to them, but I really wish that they'd just let it go. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:51, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- I'll keep my eye on all of my pages since I imagine that they'd probably want to make some edits on my pages just to show that they could. I already see one potential candidate, but as long as they don't make any edits to the Fangoria and Alexander pages I don't really have any issue with them. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:57, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
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Tallin bus route list
Please review your decision, as I think I've just proven in my reply that your conclusions are totally unsupportable. Based on all available evidence, it seems to me to be obvious that a list of bus routes of a major European capital city would indeed survive an attempt to delete it, even in 2014. Indeed, I think a good case could be made that this should be an automatic assumption, at least for capital cities or cities over a certain size - I don't see the point of forcing people to jump through the same hoops every single time when you can just as easily apply a few logical tests to accurately predict what the outcome would be of a proper review of all available literature in each case where it involves a typical modern city, one which by necessity has an established and regulated bus route network (which Davey is of course, not doing in any of these cases). Notforlackofeffort (talk) 16:12, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
please take another look
at ]. DGG ( talk ) 02:42, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
Deletion: EAngel - Proofreading Service For People With Dyslexia
Hello Tokyogirl79,
Thank you for your time. I was wondering why have you decided to delete the page and the talk page for deleted page as well. I am covering all the services for Dyslexic people, and I have seen numerous articles, who do not differ. For example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/Ginger_Software https://en.wikipedia.org/One_hour_translation https://en.wikipedia.org/Gengo
All of them are companies/services like the page you have decided to delete. I believe that the same rules should be apply to whole of Misplaced Pages content with no discrimination. I also want to write about other services as well. All the text is referenceable from content I found on the web, and I didn't intend to promote one service over the other, just simply to allow people with Dyslexia to find this important source of knowledge.
With deep respect, Stevegrtz (talk) 09:58, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
Late but, Seasons greetings!
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ANI
Hi Tokyogirl79, As you had some issues with "Notforlackofeffort", I thought I should let you know there's now a thread at ANI - Misplaced Pages:Administrator's noticeboard/Incidents#User:Notforlackofeffort,
Since I've mentioned your name there I thought It was best I should let you know,
Cheers, –Davey2010 23:44, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Davey2010: Dang, I'm sorry I missed that. I took a mini wiki break to catch up on household chores and exciting things happened. Guess that article won't be restored? Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:08, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- I don't mean that in a nasty manner, just that I was somewhat surprised at all of what the other editors brought up. I saw how the editor was arguing at the undeletion page (not providing anything to prove notability for the article and just demanding its recreation) but I had no idea how bad they were acting across the board. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:13, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Think I'd rather of done household chores instead of all this crap
, & No worries I knew what you meant :), - Since I'm one of those people who If I bring your name up at any board I then tell you (To me it's just common courtesy) ... Well this tool accused me of Canvassing which actually made me laugh ,
- Anyway on a much brighter note I wish you and your family a very Healthy and Happy New Year :) (Just think this time tomorrow It'll be 2015 ... Time flys!
) –Davey2010 04:37, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Think I'd rather of done household chores instead of all this crap
- Crudpuppies, it is New Year's Eve now, isn't it? Ugh... school starts up soon and I'm just now starting to get used to being out of school. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:44, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Arr poor you take a month off, Make an excuse up, forge your parents signature , problem solved . –Davey2010 04:54, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Nah, it'd be more trouble than its worth. I'm in a Master's program so taking a month off would be chaos. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! All that good stuff. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:28, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Arr poor you
What'cha think
about this... the longest article I've written to date and a fine way to wind up 2014: The Centrifuge Brain Project. Schmidt, 22:45, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
- Very nice! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:14, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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Happy New Year Tokyogirl79!
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Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. NorthAmerica 09:17, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Nice
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a shame about Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Dolphin Tale 3
You tagged it as a hoax with the summary "no such film has been announced", when in fact the 3rd project was spoken about (very briefly) in the news. And even though the AFD lasted only 2 hours, the article did not contain any verifiable information, and an AFD deletion was pretty much assured. However, I went ahead and sourced a sentence each in Dolphin Tale and Dolphin Tale 2 about it being discussed. Schmidt, 07:59, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'd seen where there were people that were saying they'd like for a third film to come about, but nothing official as of yet. Mostly it was just that the person who created the article had a pretty long history of creating hoax or near hoax articles/additions to Misplaced Pages. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 08:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, the article content was definitely imaginative, but better we judge the topic and not the author. Reports did state that it and a TV show were in discussions. Way too soon for an article, but not unsourcable enough to declare the title "blatant". Schmidt, 08:20, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Air Lazur
Why you deleted the page? I really don't understand you people... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talk • contribs) 11:10, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Mashine1984: The reason it was deleted was because of WP:A7, which means that the page did not show how the company passed WP:CORP. The thing is, just existing as a company is not enough to pass notability guidelines (WP:ITEXISTS). You would have to show where the company has received coverage in independent and reliable sources per WP:RS. For example, if there was a news article about the company then you could use that as something to help show notability for the company, although I do need to note that in most instances you would need several reliable sources to show notability. Anything released by the company itself would not be usable to show notability as these would be considered WP:PRIMARY sources, which also includes any press releases written by the company and published in other outlets. I do have to kind of echo MER-C's statement in that creating a page in the mainspace without fully understanding the various guidelines is not exactly a good idea. I'd actually recommend that you create the article at WP:AfC, the articles for creation process. This would give you more time to work on the article and if it doesn't pass notability guidelines then you would still be given more time to fix the issues. I do have to warn you that copyright infringing text is still not permitted at AfC, so you would not be able to post anything there. I'm willing to restore this and move it to AfC as long as you do two things: that you not create the article in the mainspace again until it has been accepted by someone at AfC and that you read over the various guidelines for notability on Misplaced Pages, preferrably while also seeking help from people at the WP:TEAHOUSE. I do see where you were trying to keep from posting copyright infringement with this second go at the article, which is why I'm willing to move it to AfC if you want. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 11:17, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Mashine1984: I've moved it to the draftspace at Draft:Air Lazur. When you're ready to submit it for consideration, click on the tab that says "More" and it should give you a list of options, which includes "Review (AFCH)". What you'll want to do is click that and then choose "submit" and follow the prompts. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 11:25, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, will start to work over it slowly. Will read as well the materials that you've recommended. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talk • contribs) 12:22, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
Have Posted Some Information on Raheja Developers SPI
hi, have updated the SPI page with link to Raheja article which many editors under SPI seem to be drawing from.
Thanks, Leoaugust (talk) 11:53, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
Unblock request for Squeakmore
Hi, Tokyogirl79. I was surprised to see that you did not know that declining unblock requests for one's own blocks is unacceptable. I know you have now been told, and have said you won;t do it again, but I thought it might help to mention that Misplaced Pages:Blocking policy#Unblocking says "An uninvolved administrator acting independently reviews the circumstances of the block". (My emphasis.) It is an essential part of the policy that an editor has the right to an independent review by an uninvolved administrator.
Moving on from that, my inclination in cases like this is usually to unblock. I fully accept what you say about the editor having had plenty of warnings and not stopping, but it is far from uncommon for a block to finally get the message through, and since the editor says that he or she will not do it again, it seems reasonable to give him or her a chance to prove it. The worst that can happen is that he/she does the same again, in which case we can block again, so very little will have been lost. That was "usually": I accept that in this case there are grounds for doubting the editor's competence, which makes an unblock more doubtful, but the same principal applies: if the editor shows within a short time that they are incapable of editing properly, they can be blocked again, with little having been lost. Despite your having made it abundantly clear on the editor's talk page that you would not unblock yourself, I am posting here to ask if you have any comment to make on my proposing to make a WP:ROPE unblock, subject to the editor first giving a response to Max Semenik's request for clarification. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- Knock yourself out. If they do get unblocked and make the same edits again, which is likely, then I'll leave it up to you guys to do the cleanup and blocking. I won't touch the editor again.
I'm actually considering just never blocking anyone again, to be honest.Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 08:40, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry- that sounds really petty of me. I'm striking that last comment. Feel free to trout me for that. I'm just irritated by the post at the bottom of the page- your comment is entirely reasonable. Though I am seriously thinking about just not blocking for a good long while just because I'm looking at how badly it can all go wrong. It'd be better just to leave it to others, I guess. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:02, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- @JamesBWatson: Possibly worth mentioning that I declined a UTRS appeal from this user yesterday in which they specifically stated their intent to continue creating the Dolphin Tale 3 page - just something to bear in mind when considering whether or not to unblock. Yunshui 水 08:51, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Yunshui: Thanks for that information. It certainly puts the matter in a different light. For now, I am still leaving the possibility of a WP:ROPE unblock open, but it is looking less and less likely that it will succeed.
- Tokyogirl79 As I have said below, no admin can always know everything about every policy. I have made mistakes over policy in the past, and I am sure I will again. I really don't think it would be good for you to lay off blocking for "a good long while", because I regard you as a good administrator, and your judgements on when to block are normally sound. You made a mistake about declining unblock requests, but that has no bearing whatever on the quality of the block itself, which was perfectly right, and besides, you have learnt from the experience, and won't make the same mistake again. If you feel shaken up by this experience, lay off blocking for a few days (or at the absolute most a couple of weeks) to give yourself a chance to feel better, but that should be enough.
The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:19, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- ↑ What he said, TG. Yunshui 水 11:29, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- Well, if it's of any interest to you, Tokyogirl, it all came to nothing, as you can see here. However, little was lost by trying. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 20:54, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Tracey Jackson
They've seemed to have popped up. I'm not sure of the veracity of whether this is her or not, but given their edit summary and the legal threat, it very well could be. Tutelary (talk) 04:36, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- Tutelary, I've given them a fairly strict warning on their talk page about the whole legal thing and pointed her to the ANI conversation. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:27, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
FYI
To this message:
"Tokyogirl79, you should really stop declining unblock requests of a user whom you blocked yourself. Max Semenik (talk) 10:11, 7 January 2015 (UTC)"
you replied this:
"I won't do it again, but I do have to note that this is the first time anyone has told me that I couldn't do this. (I don't mean to sound like I'm being petulant, just that this is the first time someone's said anything about it.) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:15, 7 January 2015 (UTC)"
(As admin, I kind of think you shouldn't be relying on other admins mentioning to you, what appears to me reasonably to be basic policy : "Since the purpose of an unblock request is to obtain review from a third party, the blocking administrators should not decline unblock requests from users they have blocked." How is it even reasonable that you are admin and did not know such basic/common sense policy?! Is it expecting too much from admin that for sure they should know there is that policy?! ) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 08:17, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- That's already been addressed above by another editor quite well, so if you have anything else to say I'd prefer that we keep this in the pre-existing section for this. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 08:28, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- I haven't "said" anything here (excepting that knowledge of the above policy seems rather basic & commonsensical that all admins should know). I've asked Q if my expectations are too high in your opinion about that. You dodged my Q with your reply in fact. Goodbye I've heard enough. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 08:45, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- And I replied that another person has already come on here and said the same things, so your comment doesn't really do much to expand on this. Forgive me, but while JamesBWatson's post was written to scold and to make sure that I don't do it again, your post just looks like you're here to belittle and attack me. I don't think that there's anything I could say in return to you that would please you. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 08:50, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- Did I do something wrong? Yes. Did you expand on anything that wasn't already said by JamesBWatson in a manner that would be beneficial? No. Coming on here and writing a post that was geared to be incendiary rather than educational and scolding doesn't accomplish much of anything. I mean if your goal was to make me think that for a second it'd just be nice to walk away from Misplaced Pages and never come back, then mission accomplished. I'm not leaving, but for a good second I did think about it. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 08:53, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- I can see how you might see it that way. For the record, I wasn't aware of JamesBWatson's section prior to just now (because, I posted to your Talk after seeing the relevant dialogue and your unblock denials, that's all). So you're right - my section is redundant and stupid and I'm sorry for that. (I guess I felt someone should tell you that it is basic policy you were missing, on your Talk. JamesBWatson already did, I didn't see it, sorry. ) Again sorry for the misunderstanding (had I known of the JamesBWatson section, I wouldn't have posted at all). p.s. Please don't blow your cool, I think your block of that user was warranted & you went over and above justifying it. Good block IMO. So you should keep your block bat handy I think you swing it with integrity, Tokyo! Sincere, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 09:04, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah... I probably could've replied to you better. Whack me with a trout a few times and we're good? I am going to try to avoid blocking for a few months to brush up on blocking policy a little more. Now that my hot head is cooling down I probably could've read over that a little better. It's just that I'd seen others do it and nobody had said anything to them about it, although that is pretty much just an excuse. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:07, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- No trout, just a New Year's *kiss* (hehe). As admin you can't be emotional (remember that!). Other admins have done it?!? (Shit I never saw that! No one "scolded" them!? Holey moley.) Tenderness to you, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 09:13, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- Aw, that's sweet... but I do think that once I've soothed my ego some, I probably did deserve this sort of post and a good trouting. (sighs) I'm sorry I responded so poorly. You're right- I should be less emotional in responses. I need to channel Yunshui a little more with how I handle stuff. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:33, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- I am glad this has been resolved amicably, but I would just like to say that I did not post in order "to scold and to make sure that don't do it again", Tokyogirl. You had already said you wouldn't do it again, so I didn't need to take steps about that. Rightly or wrongly, I just thought it might help you to be more clearly aware of what seems to me to be the essential nature of an unblock request, which is to get an independent review. As for scolding, there are so many bits and pieces of policies and guidelines everywhere that nobody can be expected to know everything about them, and I wouldn't even think of "scolding" anyone, admin or not, for not having some gap somewhere in their knowledge of policies. I admit I was surprised that you didn't already know that, but I have made mistakes just as bad myself. Ihardlythinkso, if ever you become an administrator, I bet you make a few mistakes about policy sometimes, too.
The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 09:57, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- We'll never know. But am guilty of some really embarrassing things even w/o the pressure of adminship. (Good lesson to remember; thx.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 10:13, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Shannon Kaiser
You were involved in the earlier AfD on this page, recreated by the subject it seems. Just thought you might be interested. Dougweller (talk) 10:11, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Dawahonline
u deleted my article but i thanked , "agree to disagree" . But the way u commented on my username is not acceptable.
- I'm sorry that you took offense - that wasn't my intent to give offense, but I would be remiss if I didn't warn you that your username does come across like you are editing on behalf of one of several organizations that share a similar name. I'll post the official warning for usernames on your account so that you can see that the warning was done via Misplaced Pages's policy on usernames. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:07, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Misplaced message
I've just been looking at your user page, and I noticed there is a misplaced message there that should be on this talk page. It's at User:Tokyogirl79#Speedy Deteletion Minetest. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 21:57, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the head's up! I'll move it here so it's with the other messages. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Speedy Deteletion Minetest
Thanks for the help. I thought I had requested the article before but I'll try it again ;) Yeah I do pretty much condede the game's not very notable, people say Mine WHAT? I'm starting to think I should wait til the game gets for popularity. Then also there would be better sources. ~----User:AKA Casey Rollins
- @AKA Casey Rollins: I'll admit it's insanely tough for any non-mainstream games to get attention. If there is a big fanbase then a good way to get coverage might be for people to write into various websites (Polygon, IGN, and so on) and request coverage of the game. Heck, even websites that seem like they may not really have much to do with stuff like this are even fair game for requests for coverage because nowadays so many mainstream websites are starting to cover the non-mainstream games. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Communio et Progressio
Hello Tokyogirl79, I'm wondering what's happened to one of the first articles I started. It has gone from mainspace, and you put in a link to a user page where it is being tinkered with. Why vanish the original article while others are tinkering in userspace? I asked on the article talkpage a while back, but answer came there none. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 21:24, 12 January 2015 (UTC) (Editing to add page history --Andreas Philopater (talk) 23:41, 12 January 2015 (UTC))
- If I remember correctly, it was part of a series of articles that was being edited by a group of students. Part of the issues with the articles tended to stem around various issues like copyright violations, sourcing, and tone. In other words, they were being written like student papers and contained original research, lack of sourcing to back up points and show notability (ie, something other than primary sources), and so on, which caused the other articles to be nominated for deletion in various formats. Because of that, I'd moved this to the userspace so it could be worked on as opposed to outright deleted. As far as it being vanished, it was just moved to the userspace so people could work on it. The article's history is still there and once the issues are dealt with it can be moved back to the userspace. I left a fairly long message on the lecturer's page at User talk:Moconnor1414. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:53, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- The article was created independently of and prior to these student projects. Nor did it (in its pre-student-intervention form) have any problems with copyright or sourcing. Can it be restored in that state in mainspace? Given that it was replaced with a redirect without any communication on the article talkpage or the article creator's talkpage, it was pretty much vanished. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 13:14, 14 January 2015 (UTC) Editing to add: this would be the pre-student-project version to restore --Andreas Philopater (talk) 13:20, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- It doesn't look as though I'm breaking any consensus just by being bold and putting back the earlier version in mainspace, but do correct me if I'm wrong. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 10:58, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Katerina Ksenyeva
Your recent removal of almost the entire article about Katerina Ksenyeva is grossly unfair. Personally, I would consider it vandalism. When I edited this article about three years ago, I relied on mainstream Russian media. I didn't check it since then and I see that other people added material to it, some of which may be considered biased and promotional. Many old links, including the name of Ksenyeva's official website, got changed or became disfunctional after three years.
I am going to clean up this article, relocate the links and look for new sources, and remove dubious elements. However, articles about entertainers from other countries may not be edited without consulting media written in the respective language of that country. Otherwise, instead of expanding our knowledge about other languages and cultures, the English Misplaced Pages would be reduced to Hollywood.
Before deleting almost the entire article, you should have looked into the Russian Misplaced Pages, which has a long article about Ksenyeva supported by many sources, and into mainstream Russian magazines. Several English newspapers also published articles about this actress, whose work is appreciated by many Russians, especially the younger generation.
It is true that many better known Russian cultural figures have less or zero coverage in the English Misplaced Pages. They deserve lengthy detailed articles as well. It is even more true about, say, Iranian cinema. Probably very few Americans in today's political climate realize that many Iranian actors do often enough better jobs than Hollywood stars and require detailed coverage in English. By the way, I checked Ksenyeva's recent updates and see that she works now in New York on permanent basis and sings in English, thus being more significant for Americans than when she lived in Russia.
Unfortunately, many important historical aspects of Soviet and Russian culture are basically ingnored by the English Misplaced Pages. But such embarrassing gaps must be filled instead of covering them up by deleting information about other countries and cultures.
- @Laplandian: The issue with the article was that it contained a LOT of promotional material and things that were unsourced, although the bigger issue was with how it was written. The article was written in a fannish type tone, which was backed up by statements like "She played the cross-eyed romantic journalist Masha in Yuri Mamin's TV series Grim Tales From Russia (2000–2003), which was created as a satirical analogue of the American X-Files planted on Russian soil." Not only was this unsourced, but it's the type of thing that you'd expect to read on a press release promoting the actress. The same thing goes for statements like "ingenious choreography" and sentences that contained material like "Katerina Ksenyeva was shocked". It just comes across like someone's own personal point of view on things and like a blog article- a well written one, but still an opinionated blog article. This was part of the reason someone brought it up on BLP/N. If you want to fix the material and add more sources then that's great, but you really need to clean out the WP:PUFFERY in the article. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:03, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Tokyogirl79: I looked yesterday into it and noticed a lot of weird stuff that sounded like self-advertizing. Still, this would be a reason for discussion and sorting things out instead of radical removal of almost everything. I gave this article a major clean-up, deleted about a half of it, updated some old messy links and rephrased a couple of personal statements in a more neutral fashion. When her song was on the Russian radio, several newspapers quoted this "shocking" thing as an anti-Putin political statement of sorts, which I think is significant. If you would see her funny series, you would understand why "the cross-eyed romantic journalist" is a very important detail. Her deliberate eye-crossing and over-romantic behavior is the most noticable element of the entire show. When I edited this article three years ago, I used material from various newspaper articles, including the English version of her official biography and some promotional materials in English without giving it much thought. "Ingenious choreography" and other similar expressions are now out, thanks for noticing them. ) Laplandian (talk) 14:49, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Taking liberties
I wouldn't normally edit somebody else's userpage, but since I'm watching your talkpage it shows up on my watchlist, and I made an exception for obvious vandalism. Hope you don't mind. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 14:32, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing that! I really appreciate it- I have a feeling that it's likely from the Patricia Driscoll (business executive) page. Apparently she's going through a fairly heated legal thing with her ex-husband and his fans are vandalizing the page. (sighs) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- You're welcome. And there was me thinking it might be an over-involved fan of a Russian celebrity! --Andreas Philopater (talk) 10:59, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Request for help at BLPN
Would you please assist in the discussion at BLPN in re Polaroid Kiss / Steve Hewitt. I know it has become a huge wall-of-text but your opinion would be greatly appreciated. JBH (talk) 20:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)