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:::Maunus, why don't you go to ANI with the list of the crusaders instead of shamelessly labeling people who disagree with you here and there? --]<sup>]</sup> 16:12, 28 January 2015 (UTC) | :::Maunus, why don't you go to ANI with the list of the crusaders instead of shamelessly labeling people who disagree with you here and there? --]<sup>]</sup> 16:12, 28 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::I don't think I need to be ashamed to call you and the other Hindu crusaders what you are. You, and other POV pushers, hindu and otherwise, are a detriment to the encyclopedia. ANI however is not generally a useful venue for actually accomplishing anything. It worked yesterday to get some immediate outside attention to Bladesmulti's nonsense, but it is not really a place that can handle these kinds of complex coordinated POV pushing cases. Eventually this will probably go to ArbCom and some topic bans will be handed out, but until then I will try to waste as little time as possible communicating with you and your friends about this topic.] 16:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC) | ::::I don't think I need to be ashamed to call you and the other Hindu crusaders what you are. You, and other POV pushers, hindu and otherwise, are a detriment to the encyclopedia. ANI however is not generally a useful venue for actually accomplishing anything. It worked yesterday to get some immediate outside attention to Bladesmulti's nonsense, but it is not really a place that can handle these kinds of complex coordinated POV pushing cases. Eventually this will probably go to ArbCom and some topic bans will be handed out, but until then I will try to waste as little time as possible communicating with you and your friends about this topic.] 16:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
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Joshua is Nr 1! Hafspajen (talk) 22:35, 6 January 2015 (UTC) |
Ah, thanks Haf's! Even better than the coach. You're not my shrink, you're my elevator! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:44, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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HOuhu. Hafspajen (talk) 16:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Robert Walker
I couldn't either agree or disagree with your topic-ban proposal "right out of the box". I would like to hear from him. I don't see any evidence to implicate him in any controversies about Hinduism as such. The "out of India" theory of Indo-European languages, although supported by many Hindu nationalists, is not distinctively Hindu, and is held by a few fringe scholars elsewhere. If he has indeed been canvassing a new editor to take his "side" in content issues about Buddhism, that is a new issue.
I have requested a clarification from the ArbCom concerning the issues about "out of India" in general, as to whether a past ArbCom decision imposing ArbCom discretionary sanctions applies. For background, the Arbitration Committee sometimes imposes a special rule on a topic area that has frequent battleground editing. Some of these topic areas become battlegrounds in Misplaced Pages because they are real battlegrounds, such as India and Pakistan or Palestine and Israel. These sanctions permit administrators to impose special limitations, up to topic-bans or blocks, for persistent disruptive editing. What I have asked is whether the India-Pakistan area extends to the ancient history of India. My own thinking is that it probably should not, that it probably should only apply to India and Pakistan during the British and the independence periods, or maybe back to Muslim conquest of the Indian subcontinent. However, if it does apply to ancient Indian history, then it could provide a vehicle for dealing with troublesome edits about the history of India and Indo-European languages. We shall see. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:47, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'm quite sure it applies. The IAm took place 3,500 years ago, but the discussion and denial of it takes place now. It's a highly controversial topic. The canvassing was already a limt, but to re-open a dicussion at the Fringe Board, on such a topic, where such a clear statement was made, and to use this post to attck me again - that was the bloody limit. I'm trhough with it, to be attacked at page after page, with the repeated notificication "I;m working on a DRN". No, he's not! He's only making it worse and worse! Let him post the stupid DRN, so we can get over thsi - so he can get over it. He's an obsessed person, who doesn't know when to to stop. Anyway, thanks for responding. Sometimes one needs someone else to get back into balance. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 18:52, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
On Skillful action on Anatta page
Hi Joshua, I appreciate your comments. Just as information (if you don't mind me pointing out some technical matters): skillful action in itself doesn't lead to liberation. It only leads to long-term happiness. (See pg 186, chapter 7 Karma and Rebirth in Early Buddhism by J P McDermott, published in Karma and Rebirth in Classical Indian Traditions, 1980, University of California Press) The happiness that comes from skillful action is only temporary (see pg 187 of same source) (You can also see chapter titled "Pushing the Limits" in Purity of Heart, by Thanissaro Bhikkhu, 2006). ScientificQuest (talk)
- Hi ScientificQuest. I love this. I will read the sources; thanks. And let me repeat: you wrote before something like "thoughts are also actions"; that was really helpfull to me. I said that before, and I like to repeat it here. NB: please do have a look at User:Joshua Jonathan/Sources. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 08:39, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Warning & Discretionary Sanctions Notice
Joshua Jonathan, here's a warning:
- POV-pushing at Mandukya Upanishad
Take also notice of this generic warning:
Please carefully read this information:The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.
Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.
This message is informational only and does not imply misconduct regarding your contributions to date.Tcat64 (talk) 12:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Don't be silly. I know this template. You're already been told before: don't template the regulars. Cheers, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 12:21, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Talkpage Stalkers: I need some WikiLove!
Talk page stalkers: how many disputes, RfC's, and ANI-threads have we going on now? I need some WikiLove! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 12:50, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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Meditate
The kind of aggressive tone you are using against anyone and everyone who is disagreeing with you lately is alarming. You need to take a break and do some extra meditation. --AmritasyaPutra 16:00, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your advice, AmritasyaPutra. Though you should check-out Blades & Vic; we're disagreeing, but don't have problems. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:03, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- I disagree. You see? --AmritasyaPutra 16:09, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- JJ, I think that RfC for now would be too quick, we can decide later that what should be the RFC, and about what. First let the administrator noticeboard and the issues of ANI sort out. Hope you understand this. Bladesmulti (talk) 16:21, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Too late. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Has no comments yet, you can still reconsider. Because there is probably going to be no outcome and we can think of something better at this stage. Bladesmulti (talk) 16:30, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Too late. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- JJ, I think that RfC for now would be too quick, we can decide later that what should be the RFC, and about what. First let the administrator noticeboard and the issues of ANI sort out. Hope you understand this. Bladesmulti (talk) 16:21, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- I disagree. You see? --AmritasyaPutra 16:09, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Hey
- Hey I am unwatching the Indo-Aryan pages, too much stupidity going on for me to stomach. If my input is needed on specific questions, i.e. if an RfC ever pops up or there is a need of evaluation of specific sources then please contact me. I don't think that venue is going to get cleaned up before the hindu crusaders get the boot. User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 16:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:03, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Maunus, why don't you go to ANI with the list of the crusaders instead of shamelessly labeling people who disagree with you here and there? --AmritasyaPutra 16:12, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think I need to be ashamed to call you and the other Hindu crusaders what you are. You, and other POV pushers, hindu and otherwise, are a detriment to the encyclopedia. ANI however is not generally a useful venue for actually accomplishing anything. It worked yesterday to get some immediate outside attention to Bladesmulti's nonsense, but it is not really a place that can handle these kinds of complex coordinated POV pushing cases. Eventually this will probably go to ArbCom and some topic bans will be handed out, but until then I will try to waste as little time as possible communicating with you and your friends about this topic.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 16:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Maunus, why don't you go to ANI with the list of the crusaders instead of shamelessly labeling people who disagree with you here and there? --AmritasyaPutra 16:12, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:03, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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