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When I reverted my post, your second post got deleted. I'm not sure why that happened, but just letting you know it wasn't intentional. GoodDay (talk) 05:37, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Chiro page

Regards this edit, you actually do have access to the source (it's available on pubmed central ). WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 17:45, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi GeorgeLouis, along the same topic, I made a comment regarding your edit at the chiropractic talk page, it is at the bottom of this long section. Thanks. Puhlaa (talk) 21:45, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Greetings GeorgeLouis, I was just curious if you had a chance to read the source discussed here yet? Did you find my comment way at the bottom of this really long thread? I was still hoping to discuss whether the ideas expressed in the text you edited indeed need to be attributed and qualified, as was done in your edit here. There is no rush, sorry for nagging if you are just taking your time on the issue. Regards, Puhlaa (talk) 07:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Burrito

Should the content been struck, rather than removed? Additionally I noticed that civil response to ask for cessation of incivility, as well as third opinion regarding the initial civility, was removed; may I ask why?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 14:31, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello, RCLC. The Talk Page is intended for ways to improve the article. The personal remarks, even though they may have been a LOT more civil than many are in WP, just interfered with the flow of the conversation. It would be better to engage the other editor on HIS talk page, because the dispute was just between you two. Well, that's my opinion anyway. I have found ] to be a very useful tool in keeping remarks on track. Good luck with this article! It made me hungry just to edit it. GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:12, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

If ever there is a meet up (as we are both in the Southern California Task Force), and we happen to meet, lets go out for burritos.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 02:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

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I have read these two paragraphs that you posted here. GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

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Nomo, I am not quite sure why you opened this discussion. Surely you cannot be defending Rhode Island Red's personal gibes about me on a page that is intended to improve the article? I am regretful that I had to revert you so quickly (and more than once, too), but I certainly could not stand by idly and see such a personal affront to me remain on the page. Maybe I have a thinner skin than other people, but it is my skin. I don't believe WP:3RR is valid in this situation, which involves my honor and reputation. I hope you understand that there is nothing personal against you, or against anybody. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 13:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

RIR warned

He managed to hit 5RR in under 24 hours this time - I posted the underlying issue at BLP/N and asked him to self-revert the fifth revert. Cheers. Collect (talk) 16:02, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Do you have a link? GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:30, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Pawn (chess)

Hi George, please see my message at Misplaced Pages talk:Page Curation# Request. Graham87 12:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't know which posting to look at there. GeorgeLouis (talk) 03:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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• GeorgeLouis, please be wary of your behavior on the article Frank L. VanderSloot. Your behavior in constantly reverting others without talk page discussion is teetering on edit warring/disruptive editing. Your input in the discussion above is requested as well as heeding the concerns brought there. All the best, Lord Roem ~ (talk) 06:53, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. I would like your advice on the ability of an editor (me) to excise defamation from an article without waiting for discussion. I believe this is WP policy, per

Contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.

In your opinion, how should this be done without being accused of a 3RR violation? Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:33, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I guess I'm just a bit confused. How is calling the company "multi-level" violate BLP? If it does, then obviously that's an exception to 3RR. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 00:19, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Multilevel marketing has a pejorative connotation, as shown by these excerpts from the Misplaced Pages article:

MLM companies have been a frequent subject of criticism as well as the target of lawsuits. Criticism has focused on their similarity to illegal pyramid schemes, price fixing of products, high initial start-up costs, emphasis on recruitment of lower-tiered salespeople over actual sales, encouraging if not requiring salespeople to purchase and use the company's products, potential exploitation of personal relationships which are used as new sales and recruiting targets, complex and sometimes exaggerated compensation schemes, and cult-like techniques which some groups use to enhance their members' enthusiasm and devotion.

Walter J. Carl stated in a 2004 Western Journal of Communication article that "MLM organizations have been described by some as cults (Butterfield, 1985), pyramid schemes (Fitzpatrick & Reynolds, 1997), or organizations rife with misleading, deceptive, and unethical behavior (Carter, 1999), such as the questionable use of evangelical discourse to promote the business (Hopfl & Maddrell, 1996), and the exploitation of personal relationships for financial gain (Fitzpatrick & Reynolds, 1997)". In China, volunteers working to rescue people from the schemes have been physically attacked.

VanderSloot has taken great pains to distance his firm from the MLM label. His quotation was in the article, as follows, before Rhode Island Red deleted it.

The company is described as a multi-level marketing company by several sources, but Melaleuca says that the company “is not a multi-level marketer because its business model does not meet any state or federal criteria” and “unlike multi-level marketers, its model is not ‘predatory’ and is based on sales directly to consumers—-never other distributors.”

What's more, Rhode Island Red continually refers to the removal of the phrase as "white-washing," which implies that there was something black about "multilevel marketing."

But the most important point is that the phrase is contentious, as witnessed by the controversy on the talk page, so, according to the policy, it doesn't matter if "the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable," it is supposed to b removed.

So how can an editor do this without facing blowback by another involved editor? GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh, okay, all that makes sense. You should simply not engage in any revert battles with Rhode Island Red. If the contentious material is added again without further talk page discussion, leave a note on my talk. I'm now much more certain that this falls under the BLP exception. Thanks for expanding on that. Best, Lord Roem ~ (talk) 06:53, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

WP:BLP refers to "contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced". That is not the case here. "Contentious", as far as I can tell, is not defined as the objection of one or two editors against consensus. Rhode Island Red (talk) 21:28, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Don't mess with other editors' comments if you can't get it right

This edit resulted in a list with only 5 entries even though 6 editors had commented by that stage; you neglected to put a number on RIR's primary comment in the section. I have fixed it, here. Let's assume that you didn't actually intend to convey the impression that there was one fewer voice favoring inclusion of MLM in the lead -- even then, you should not play with other editors' posts if you can't be sure of ending up with a result that is above suspicion. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 05:48, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, RIR did not preface his first remark with a hashtag, but he simply answered somebody else's comment. Thus, I did not use a cardinal number for his comment as I did for the others. By the way, I am rather hurt by your brusque remark. I was only trying to make things easier to read. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:59, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Wrong. The hashtags had been replaced with bullets to correct the numbering mishap. Like all of the other commenters, I had a bullet tag next to my statement. George removed it, burying my comment as Nomo pointed out. So, yes, if you can't do it right, then don't refactor other people's Rhode Island Red (talk) 17:23, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

As it turns out, Arthur Rubin and I were making the same or similar changes within four seconds of each other. Some of the editors had used hashtags. Thus the mixup. It would be nice if one would not jump to conclusions but instead were to WP:Assume good faith. GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:41, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

As it turns out, Arthur managed to make his edit without removing the hash tag next to my comment, so that has nothing to do with your goof up. It would be refreshing if you simply accepted responsibility instead of trying to deflect this onto Arthur. Whatever. Rhode Island Red (talk) 01:39, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

OK. Whatever you say. I have already apologized elsewhere. GeorgeLouis (talk) 06:57, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Reviewed of Historical Right

Thanks for your help, I am not very expert how to do a citations, so I would like you do it for me. Thanl you again Nick.mon

Just put the citations right into body of the article in any way you like, and I will take care of it. Where you got the info, name of book and author, whatever, page number, etc. If you got it from a website, copy and paste the URL. GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:45, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok thank you very much!

Intention to resume edit-warring?

Re this -- I think it would be a real mistake. You have been advised at 3RRN to engage in discussion and to refrain from further edit-warring. Your sandbox work indicates you intend to choose the latter, against the advice that you received. Perhaps I am reading your intentions incorrectly; I'd be pleased to hear that I am. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 16:11, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

A very interesting post. GeorgeLouis (talk) 20:01, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the Strawberry! :D

Thanks for that strawberry. Few people only appreciate others work, so a simple reward like this would help me contribute more to the Wiki community! :D Thank you so much. --AR E N Z O Y 1 6A•t a l k• 18:30, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Rollback

Did you know there is a way of disabling rollback on your watchlist?  little green rosetta(talk)
central scrutinizer  05:16, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

No. I never go backstage. Don't even know where the props are stored or where the costumers keep their needles and threads. Thanks for the info, though. GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:12, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi GL

Before you undo everything I did, please be informed that another editor, emerson7, advised me that the succession boxes should be removed because they were redundant with the drop-down mayoral listsWQUlrich (talk) 19:02, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

PS:I admit that I'm a bit sloppy when it comes to putting reasons on my edits. The lead section on Bernard Cohn seemed a bit gossipy to me...almost like the writer had something against Mr.Cohn. (Maybe I'm a bit too sensitive to possible Anti-Semitism). Anyway, I guess it stays. I don't want to get in an editing war with you!WQUlrich (talk) 19:20, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for writing. The lede reports only what is in the article. Cohn was quite a guy! Anyway, Jewish people were very much in evidence in the beginning years of American Los Angeles, serving on the city council, taking an active role in civic affairs, etc. There have actually been quite a few studies made on this. Many of the Jews came from Alsace, which at the time was being switched back and forth between Germany and France with wild abandon. So they spoke French, English and (I suppose) Yiddish and German. Some writers have indeed painted Cohn in the usual way as a greedy loan shark, and Pico may not have known how to read English, but the judge's decision really indicated that Pio Pico knew exactly what he was getting into when he made the agreement with Cohn. I could have pointed this out in the article, but perhaps it more properly belongs in the article about Pico. GeorgeLouis (talk) 20:05, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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Well, we have a difference of opinion on whether reverting is allowed in this case, which, as you know, involves a claim (by me and others) that there is a violation of WP:BLP in this article. I really resent the accusation of Edit Warring, something I don't believe I have ever accused you of doing, although you've done a whole lot of reverts to my changes. So please be a little nicer over what is, as I mentioned above, not a war, but just a different way of looking at things. To avoid a 3RR, which causes trouble for everybody, I would do a voluntary revert of the removal of the tag at the top of the page, but someone has already put it back and now the page is blocked again, so I can't take any steps in that direction. What's more, your boilerplate warning indicates that I have not been working toward consensus. Consensus is not necessary when damaging material is inserted into BLP's, as you very well know. The difference between you and me is that you honestly believe that it is not damaging to a businessman when he is accused of running a MLM, and I honestly believe otherwise. It would be nice if you could just assume good faith in this matter. Sincerely, yours in Wikidom, GeorgeLouis (talk) 01:20, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I think you have demonstrated some bad faith in this episode. In your first contribution to the RfC, you indicated it would be "better to leave the description out of the lede and mention it briefly in the text below". In discussion after the RfC had concluded, when someone else raised the question of removing it from the body, you showed some understanding of the fact that the RfC wasn't intended to address that issue and said that if it was to be removed it should be discussed under a different rubric. But then when others (Jeremy and Andrew) started taking it out of the lead, you jumped right up on that bandwagon. So in fact I think you've been, shall we say, a bit opportunistic here. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 05:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, thanks for the comment. Opportunistic? Aren't we all? GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:41, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Pedro Cardoso

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Jefferson High School (Los Angeles)

On the Jefferson High School (Los Angeles) page there is a "discuss" link. I notice you had a response on the link, I wanted to explain why the Grid was remove. The Grid was the reason why I updated the page. Can you give me your opinion on the paragraph below:

The Grid was remove because a reviewer name "Tedder" explain to me that you could not say "The first African American ...". I tried to explained to him that you can say John F. Kennedy was the the first Irish Catholic president. He says that it was not allowed and he removed the Grid. That logic never made since to me....I would like to put the grid back on the page, but I respect the review process findings even if I do not agree with them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Svgperson (talk • contribs) 23:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't know what you are talking about. GeorgeLouis (talk) 01:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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Question

Something struck me about an edit you made a couple of days ago: -- "the new arrangement, which is still in effect." How do you know it is still in effect? ta, —Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't know. It was in the article that way. Some other editor stuck it there, and I just copied it since nobody had challenged it. I prefer that it be omitted unless we can find a source for it. GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:53, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

I can't reconcile that answer with the article history. In this version that immediately precedes the series of edits in which you added that phrase, the phrase does not exist. If you prefer it would be omitted, then it is puzzling that you would add it. Someone who adds it (without a source, even) would seem to believe that it's true, and I'm wondering on what basis you thought it was true. thanks, —Nomoskedasticity (talk) 05:02, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

OK, it took me a while, but I found the answer to your question. You can find it at http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Frank_L._VanderSloot&diff=538727753&oldid=538725766.

The unedited text said: "Instead, contractors now receive commissions from each purchase that their referred customers make from Melaleuca, but the customers buy the products directly from Melaleuca, which handles the delivery directly." (Emphasis added.)

I changed it to read: "In the new arrangement, which is still in effect, contractors receive commissions from Melaleuca for each purchase their customers make, but the customers buy directly from Melaleuca, which ships them directly to the consumer." (Emphasis added.)

I don't know what editor originally used the word now.

Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:04, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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You are mistaken. I asked three editors for assistance at WP:Peer review, per the instructions at that page, viz.:

These peer review volunteers have signed up to give feedback. Ask 2–3 of them in a nice and persuasive way to increase your chances. Taking a moment to appreciate and compliment their work here might not hurt, if you're sincere about it. If you haven't heard back from them (watch their talk pages) in a reasonable time, then ask more than 2–3 for help. Try editors in the article's subject area and be patient. If you sign up for the list, place yourself in the category you think you're most likely to do peer reviews for. Posting at an associated Wikiproject (also listed below) could help. Copy editors are listed at the bottom.

The requests specifically referred to formatting, and not to content. I refer you also to Misplaced Pages:Harassment. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 20:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Patrick Tingley

Since you had my page deleted I was wondering if you could tell me where I can write a biography then? Thank you... (Dnl.briseno (talk) 23:14, 11 March 2013 (UTC))

The times, they aren't a-changing

There has got to be someplace the L.A. Times is available that isn't behind some kind of paywall. Even a paywall site would be better, because at least that allows people willing to pay, but who aren't in L.A., to gain access. TREKphiler 21:07, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, any Californian can get an LAPL library card. Second, there is no other link to the older stories in the L.A. Times; if there is, I would like to know of it. Third, Misplaced Pages does not require that sources be available on line. Fourth, "idiotic" is a rather strong word. GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:24, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

U.S. state of...., My apologies

Here is an example. I think it sucks personally see this?. BUT, per WP:LOC the only thing that is specifically stated is the title should not and yet, BAM, its the lead. I do not agree that this is the best. In fact, I think you and I probably agree. HOWEVER, we have other editors who will literally remove every freaking instance of United States in ANY US state article because, and I quote, EVERYONE KNOWS where this state is. Point of fact, they do not. BUT, I think that there should be a better mechanism that a lead that says, OH by the way etc etc. I am very open to discussion, my apologies if I came across as harsh, I was carrying invisible wiki baggage, which is not your problemCoal town guy (talk) 01:23, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Your link goes to WP:List of cabals. Normally when I am confronted by a tautology such as your example, I simply delete the offending phrase with the Edit summary "Where else would West Virginia be?" Normally nobody bothers to put the phrase back in. GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:23, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Have no fear, I have created a near bullet proof template, I will post it shortly for review. I agree. In fact, I was rather good at symbolic logic a few million years ago...or so it seems. I will be the Wiki man who loves to be hated and change the phrasing in the 50+ counties that have the locutionCoal town guy (talk) 02:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Surpise, NOBODY commented. BUT I did find why there is a tautology, the reason the code we edit will say, US County for US State of etc etc etc is because there is indeed a county article as opoosed to a US one and the "county article" is a stinker......do you think a merge or redirect could eliminate the ugliness???Coal town guy (talk) 00:02, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

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Notability

I can tell you are attempting to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Notability}}, but nominating articles for deletion with the statement "Not notable" is not helpful at all. I would be far less concerned with your nominations if you would be clear in what you are doing "This article has been tagged for notability since 2008, upon review I have not found evidence of notability" or something of the sort. Are you checking for sources? Ryan Vesey 05:15, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. No, I am not checking for any sources. If the article itself makes no claim to notability, then of course the tag "unclear notability" no longer applies, and I can nominate it for deletion. However, I guess I will just lay off. Thanks again. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:28, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

John Muto

FYI, the original creator of the John Muto article is blocked indefinitely, so they won't be able to take part in the AfD. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 04:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the warning, but I don't believe anybody will believe that my recent edits involve any kind of war. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:05, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

We'll find out, if you do any more reverting; you've removed "journalists" 3 times now. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 16:12, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, if it is a war, I proposed a Christmas truce, even though it's not the right season. I won't be doing any more editing until at least tomorrow. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:16, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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Since you weighed in here, I thought I'd let you know that there's currently a discussion going on here about Boxoffice.com. You're welcome to join in if you'd like. Regards, m.o.p 21:55, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

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Don't be silly. GeorgeLouis (talk) 11:21, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Good catch

Thanks for copyediting my copyedit on the VanderSloot BLP. I changed the wrong side of the Wikilink. Andrew 17:53, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

I do that occasionally — can't tell my right hand from my left. GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:01, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

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A Barnstar for Your Work on Grammarly

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Eagle Rock, California

A few things about your edits from someone with extensive knowledge of the area. Just because there is no source on a persons page for where they reside is not carte blanche reason to removed someone from a locality page. Many of the residents you removed are sourced from school yearbooks and other good sources that are not necessarily on their personal page, nor happen to be in an electronic form (which is NOT required for Misplaced Pages). As for the movie industry, many of the films referenced have specific credits at the end of the movies mentioning eagle rock, and any community within a hour of Hollywood has extensive history in the community which is part of their story. Everything you removed was valid, encyclopedic content, with very poor justification. If you want to continue improving the page, I look forward to working with you, but please discuss your edits on the talk page were consensus can be reached instead of wholesale deletions. Your good faith edits have been Reverted until appropriate discussion of your changes reaches consensus. Timmccloud (talk) 12:57, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I look forward to you or somebody else inserting the proper sources. See you on the Talk Page. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:21, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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2013 Wikinic

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Mid-Wilshire

Thanks for your improvements to the article Mid-Wilshire. I'd appreciate your input in response to my "move" suggestion on the talk page. --MelanieN (talk) 21:10, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Inaccurate Changes and Removals by GeorgeLouis to Harvard Heights wiki page

Your comments pursuant to your editing of the Harvard Heights wiki page on 05/28/13 state: "Hello, I'm GeorgeLouis. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Harvard Heights, Los Angeles, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:57, 28 May 2013 (UTC)"

The changes made to the article were necessary because your editing of the neighborhood boundaries is inaccurate. Since at least the year 2000, the City of Los Angeles Planning authority has clearly identified the area known as Harvard Heights in multiple citywide ordinances, planning documents, and zoning maps. Furthermore, your contention that a reliable source was not provided for these corrections is entirely untrue as two separate and publicly posted pdf documents created by the City of Los Angeles were cited to. These documents are: http://www.preservation.lacity.org/files/Harvard%20Heights%20Survey%20Map.pdf and http://www.preservation.lacity.org/files/Harvard%20Heights%20Ordinance.pdf which can be found at the City of Los Angeles Planning Department Office of Historic Resources website (http://www.preservation.lacity.org/hpoz/la/harvard-heights). Unfortunately, the editing you performed relies on misinformation disseminated by the LA Times Crime Mapping unit. The publication has previously been informed in writing that the information contained on their website is inaccurate and is overly inclusive of surrounding areas that are not commonly considered, nor publicly marked as Harvard Heights by both residents and government alike. Furthermore, your citation source can be further contradicted when examined in conjunction with the popular real estate website zillow.com, which posits an altogether third set of boundaries for the neighborhood which is likewise inaccurate. Thus, it makes most sense to rely on the widely published information that City Planning and Zoning has relied on as the accurate boundaries of this neighborhood for the past 13 years. Furthermore, as a local resident of the neighborhood, I can attest to the fact that the neighborhood has been trying to correct this misinformation for years. These efforts to educate those who are not from the area have been very public, and have included the City sanctioned posting of Harvard Heights signs on every corner in the neighborhood between Western Ave and Normandie, as well as Pico Blvd to the 10 Freeway. For this specific reason, the wikipedia article was pursuantly edited in order to stop the flow of misinformation and point to reliable to sources for the Harvard Heights boundary lines. Please revert the edits to this wiki page to reflect this information.

Thank you. I've responded at "Boundaries sources" on the Talk:Harvard Heights, Los Angeles page. It would be best to keep all conversation over there. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:23, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Hollywood infobox picture and other good work

That was a great edit and a great edit summary, too. The rest of the work you're doing there is high quality and much needed.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 16:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

RS comment

Hi. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you comment at this discussion regarding a source's reliability? It involves a self-published source's use in a featured-BLP article. Dan56 (talk) 16:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Potential Conflict of Interest / Relationship with Publication Outlet

GeorgeLouis, do you have a conflict of interest WP:Conflict of Interest with regards to the publication outlet the Los Angeles Times? A vast majority of the information that you have posted to Los Angeles neighborhood based articles is content derived largely from the Los Angeles Times. It has been brought to your attention that some of the Los Angeles Times information you cite to is inaccurate or at odds with other sources, including widely disseminated maps, government documents, etc. You continue to edit such articles to remove other citations and references, and prominently refer back to the Los Angeles Times as a primary source, both in the article content itself, as well as in the external links section. Is there a reason you have mostly featured this publication/media outlet so prominently in name in these articles? This topic will also be posted to the WP:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard. Thank you. Harvardheightshpoz (talk) 15:50, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

I am assuming you are acting in good faith and that you have not been made aware of Misplaced Pages:Outing#Posting_of_personal_information. GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:35, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi. If it's not any inconvenience, could you comment at this RSN post? It seems I'm getting feedback from editors who've cited the source in their edits to articles, and I'd like a more impartial opinion, so I picked you out randomly from the WP:RS talk page, LOL Dan56 (talk) 02:27, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the cheeseburger

There's always a problem with refs in templates - if you leave out the {{reflist}} and rely on the invoking page having one, you may come unstuck. Those errors are much harder to track down too. I think I made a mistake though with the <noinclude></noinclude> John of Cromer (talk) mytime= Tue 21:04, wikitime= 20:04, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't even know what <noinclude></noinclude> does. GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:50, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Olympiacos women's volleyball

First of all, the fact that these players don't have (English) Wikpedia articles doesn't mean that they are not notable. I am sure you will agree that Misplaced Pages still has many gaps and many unwritten articles in a vast range of areas. Now the fact that this article looks like a puff piece to you is really baffling to me, but I assure you that it ain't. I will be delighted to provide you with sources, but I must inform you that the vast majority of the available sources on the particular subject are in Greek language. Anyway, as far as the names are concerned, I'll try to add some additional sources. The facts are already sourced. The article is a product of research and experience and every fact and name in it is accurate. Looking forward to hearing your point of view, Gtrbolivar (talk) 17:03, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Olympiacos women's volleyball answer

I always provide numerous sources and conduct a thorough and meticulous search before contributing to Wiki. I fully understand your concerns but I really feel that they are a little bit far-fetched. I agree that sources are of vital importance to the Misplaced Pages philosophy and I personally take this matter very seriously. You are absolutely right when you say that no articles should exempt from the requirement for sources, but on the other hand, over-sourcing and constant suspicion over everybody who adds new information to Misplaced Pages are not commensurate with the Misplaced Pages philosophy and with the whole concept of contribution. Now, as far as yours truly is concerned, I can assure you that I most certainly am not taking advantage of Misplaced Pages's anyone-can-edit policy, I am not a sports enthusiast, nor am I (unfortunately for my pocket) a sports public relations paid agent. I am just someone who happens to have an extensive knowledge on all these things and I really enjoy contributing to Misplaced Pages by providing trustworthy and sourced information. I suppose you'll have to take my word on all these, obviously I won't be able to provide you with any sources whatsoever. By the way, I checked you out and I saw that you are a very experienced and distinguished editor. Keep up the good work, Gtrbolivar (talk) 23:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Assistance to protect neutral POV, article page ban for Binksternet

George, I have tried with great effort to maintain a balance of opinion in the Controversy section of the page on Mitsuo Fuchida, the lead pilot in the attack on Pearl Harbor. I admit I'm not that experienced on Misplaced Pages, but despite my best efforts, Binksternet continues to revert and edit to his own POV and bend the content of this historic figure, whom I know much about. He has even deleted my comments on the Talk page of Fuchida as well. Fuchida was a flawed man, but the "Controversy" section is grossly lopsided via Binksternet. I saw your name on Binksternet's (rejected) RFA as "Oppose" and thought, if nothing else, you might have some advice or perhaps help. I'm requesting an article page ban here

Thanks for your consideration--TMartinBennett (talk) 23:54, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

I will take a look at it, but I have to warn you that somebody is going to throw WP:Canvass at you. (Not me.) GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:47, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Answer

First of all, next to the flags being used in the notable players section, the name of the country is mentioned. What's the point in adding an additional flag section? I don't think is right, it's an exaggeration. Secondly, did you see any of the pages I gave you as an example? Did you see the structure, the links and everything? They are exactly the same as my edit. In fact I used their structure and writing pattern to write this particular article. You didn't mention anything. Thirdly, why are you removing links to other wikipedia pages (Piraeus, Eva Chantava, Maja Ognjenović etc). It is totally unjustified and doesn't make any sense. I corrected them and once again you removed them. I think you should take a look to the links I send you (Fenerbahçe Women's Volleyball, Vakıfbank Spor Kulübü, Panathinaikos women's volleyball), I believe it will change your perception. What's wrong with adding links to wikipedia pages? I mean that's the right way and it encourages other users to create the unwritten pages, thus contributing to Misplaced Pages. You strike me as an open-minded person and I strongly suggest that you reconsider some of your views on the matter. Gtrbolivar (talk) 19:25, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

I underand your concern, but would be better to use the article's Talk Page as a way to improve the article. Anyway, whatever is done in the article can later be undone if necessary. Thanks. GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:55, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Silver Lake, Los Angeles cite issue

I saw your 7/14 revert using CITEVAR as a reason. When I read CITEVAR I take that to mean newer editors on a page follow the already established citation style. You are a newer editor on this page and are not following the style. When someone changes one of your citations to the "established" style you revert it. When someone adds info to your cite you revert it. This is not following CITEVAR as I understand it.

Also, you spelled the author's name incorrectly; it's Khouri, not Khoury. When you reverted the edit you reverted the correction.

I am going to revert your revert for the same reason you gave: CITEVAR. Jaguar766 (talk) 21:08, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting the name, but this article has been around for YEARS before the rollout of the templates. There is no consistency on the page, as you can plainly see. Look out for WP:Editwar. please. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:31, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry but...

...how is this blanking? Insulam Simia (/_contribs) 06:45, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

I will have to admit that I am confused by the recent blankings in Richard Alatorre, and I suggest that discussion about them be confined to the Talk Page over there. GeorgeLouis (talk) 13:03, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Los Angeles neighborhoods

Thanks for all your hard work trying to clean up the morass that is Los Angeles neighborhoods. Nice working with you. Looks like I created a bunch of work for myself to fix up the "keep" articles. Will you take care of removing the deletes from the list of neighborhoods and wherever else? --MelanieN (talk) 16:44, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure. GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Watts, CA Article

Thank you for removing my unreferenced mention of Sanford and Son from the Watts article. I've added it back and changed the wording to clarify and added several references. I usually provide a reference but since the wiki article on Sanford and Son didn't reference that fact but mentions it along with the fact that the show was so popular, I didn't think I needed to but I guess not everyone would be familiar with it. It's probably the most famous show to be based in Watts and outside of the riots is why a number of people are familiar with it. I hope it's OK now. Dbroer (talk) 18:13, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Lazard

Hello, I received a message saying that my changes to the Lazard entry were not based on verifiable facts. However, I bent over backwards to attribute everything to objective sources. I did so in order to replace the flagged request at the top of the page to do so. Can you please tell me what is objectionable or unverifiable in the current entry? I respect Wikipaedia's guidelines and am eager to comply. Philipmaher (talk) 14:54, 28 July 2013 (UTC)Philipmaher. Thank you.

No problem. It seemed to me that the changes were not based on neutral sources. Please join the conversation at the Talk Page over there. We certainly can salvage a lot of your stuff. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:48, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

WP:USERNOCAT

Hi GeorgeLouis! Per WP:USERNOCAT, "user subpages that are draft versions of articles should be kept out of content categories." One of the tasks that my bot does is to comment out article categories that are on user subpages, such as this edit to User:GeorgeLouis/TemporarilyActive, which you reverted. If you don't like using the colons, you could use <!-- ... --> comment tags instead, which would also keep your draft page out of the categories. Thanks, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 21:34, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for handling the necessary housekeeping chores! Buena fortuna! GeorgeLouis (talk) 13:54, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Thomas Lucy

Just to let you know, the opinions you asked for have been added to the Talk:Thomas Lucy page. Paul B (talk) 16:57, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Newspaper vendors pic

Nice picture of the newspaper vendors. It definitely suits Mexico's article quite well. Happy editing, ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 03:19, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

World Trade Center (New York City, 1973)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For the Berlin Images. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:31, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

File:Three-quarter view 1934 Chevrolet Master Coupe.jpg

Just for the record, file deletion goes to WP:FFD not WP:MFD. But since you uploaded the images yourself, you can just tag them with {{db-author}}, although this has already been done. Ten Pound Hammer • 06:38, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Twinkle does not have a FFD shortcut; at least I didn't see it. GeorgeLouis (talk) 13:24, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Third one down, "Discussion venues for files". Ten Pound Hammer • 13:37, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Bells are ringing in Bell

Did you see today's news? Could that crook possibly be fatter?? I hope you can add the news. I am battling breast cancer (pretty good prognosis) and chemo is killing me...but I got both girls ;-) The only thing worse than fighting this cancer is warring with an HMO. Please pop in anytime!

• Fond regards

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Photographs

Thanks for uploading so many excellent photographs. If you have any more of London and Leicester, in particular, I would be very pleased to see them uploaded. Celuici (talk) 10:10, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

I have more of the Leicester march, but they don't seem to fit any Misplaced Pages articles.

GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:44, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

ww2censor (talk) 11:44, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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"Kiddie train" photo

The photo was taken at a beach amusement area in Hanko, Finland, but I have no info on the manufacturer. I estimate the track gauge to be 15" or so. It has since been removed from the site. --Janke | Talk 08:03, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

It is a very nice photo and I added the information to this page. GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:36, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

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File:Armenian youth with T-shirt and happy face in image of Gorbachev.png listed for deletion

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File:Map of Porter Ranch area of Los Angeles, California.png listed for deletion

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• There was no need to use MfD and certainly no need to notify yourself! You should simply have slapped {{db-g7}} on the file description. Note also that the image was a blatant copyvio and that you new version must not be. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:33, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

I did not appreciate your rude remark. Yours faithfully, GeorgeLouis (talk) 13:42, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

• Perhaps I am dim but please explain what was rude about my message. There is no need to leave a message on my user talk page - I shall be watching this. My limit for the size of my user talk page is 64k bytes. I think this page is overdue for archiving. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:16, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Your tone was brusque, your conclusion about "blatant copyvio" absolutely wrong. Nevertheless, I assume you have been overworking on Misplaced Pages, as I have — hours and hours for the past few days — so there is nothing to worry about. I believe we should all be helpful to each other. Yours in Wikidom, GeorgeLouis (talk) 14:21, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

• Allegations of copyvio unreservedly withdrawn. But: in the image you uploaded the copyright notice had been almost completely cropped. The chat about copyright would have been better placed within the Permission section of the Information box. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:46, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Call me kicking a dead horse but I should point out to RHaworth that when a page is taken to XFD using Twinkle it automatically alerts the creating user - see User talk:Launchballer#Speedy deletion nomination of User:Launchballer/Db-g6d.--Launchballer 16:40, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

• No son, perhaps we have different versions of Twinkle but with mine there is a check box "notify page creator if possible" which George could have un ticked. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:44, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Urgh, if I'd've known that then! Just checked, and it is there. Sorry about that.--Launchballer 16:48, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Apologies

Accidentally undid something you were working on. hit undo asap...--Antiqueight 01:39, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I will send you some cookies. GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:05, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

El Sereno, Los Angeles

Hello GeorgeLouis,

I saw your edits of El Sereno, Los Angeles, stating that "Much of what has been added since then appears to be a WP:Copyright violation."

Actually, Mr. George Casen contacted me, sent me color versions of his work and stated that I was free to use his research/findings without needing his consent. He stated that he did his research for the community El Sereno. I am the founder of the El Sereno Historical Society and this is why I think the WP: Copyright violation DOES NOT APPLY.

Mr. Casen's work is a reference article at the Los Angeles City Library, El Sereno Branch, which I gave a color copy of Mr. Casen's work so that the Library Branch could update their over-copied black and white copy.

In other words, I'm sure I did not break any Copyright. I'm not sure what exactly led you to believe I was violating a Copyright, but I understand your caution.

I would like to know what I need to present to prove that this is not a copyright violation? I didn't want to undo your edit until I had the chance to explain my use of the material and allow you the chance to respond as well.

I hope this can be resolved and I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you for your time.

El Sereno (talk) 11:08, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for writing. I am not an expert on the way one makes his previously published material available for use on Misplaced Pages, so I have asked for advice at Misplaced Pages:Non-free_content_review#El_Sereno.2C_Los_Angeles. Just keep your eye on that page: Somebody will step up and answer the question, although I understand there is a waiting list. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

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Could you please stop adding
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There are multiple things wrong. Please use the {{cleanup section}} template with only the parameters used on the doc page. It should read: {{cleanup section|Citations needed. Shorten descriptors to bare necessity. Keep one blue link per line|date=October 2013}} Bgwhite (talk) 08:27, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. GeorgeLouis (talk) 13:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

New York crime section

My understanding of the phrase "as of" is different and I have changed the wording at the start of the sentence. Let me know what you think, as I believe that by stating "as of", one is stating that "as of this date/year" something "is" the case, and the present tense is therefore relevant.--Soulparadox (talk) 20:49, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

No, if something is in the past, it takes the past tense. "As of 1914, Europe was on the verge of war." GeorgeLouis (talk) 00:18, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for this.--Soulparadox (talk) 09:37, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks, I appreciate the barnstar. I do try to credit authors, but I'm curious if something in particular caught your attention? No big deal, just curious.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 18:20, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

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Request for editing

Hi GeorgeLouis, we met when collaborating on gastrointestinal cancer. I can't say I completely agree with all your editing / simplification, but I do admire your ability to synthesise and present complex information simply. I'm having a lot of difficulty with this article: Advanced glycation end-products, and would love if you could bring your editor's scythe and toolbox to help me improve it. Since I've seen what a parlous state it was in, I've been trying to improve it in bits and pieces, but it hurts my head to find a way to express the content in a readable fashion whilst preserving the content (which is quite specific). AGES are one of the major pathological pathways that cause the complications of diabetes mellitus, so this topic is quite important. Would value some help, if time permits! LT910001 (talk) 08:53, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

OK. I will look at it. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:21, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; --LT910001 (talk) 23:06, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

It will take a while, so I would appreciate your not working on it until I've had a chance to go over it fully. Thanks. GeorgeLouis (talk) 04:39, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

No worries. If you'd like any assistance please let me know. LT910001 (talk) 07:02, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

AGE

Hi georgelewis. I watch the Advanced glycation end-product article and have seen your recent edits. I see that you are an experienced editor, but that you have not edited a lot of health-related articles. I just want to point out that sourcing content for health-related information is subject to the WP:MEDRS guideline, and your edits don't seem to be following that. There is a lot of hype around AGEs and ways to counter them in the longevity community, and you appear to be relying mostly on sources from that community, many of which fail MEDRS and do not express the consensus of the medical community. You seem to like others to stay out of your way while you restructure, so I will hang back but, much of what you have done so far will probably not stand under MEDRS. I have added a MEDRS-citations needed tag to the top of the article, for now. Best regards, Jytdog (talk) 12:14, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:50, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit Picture for Martin Ludlows page

Hi George,

I am attempting to edit Martin Ludlows profile. I would like to delete the current picture within the body of the article and I want to add two new pictures. I see that there is a block on the edit section for that part. I wanted to know if there is anyway you can remove the block or assist in this process.

I can be emailed at .

Thank you,

Themba

76.169.18.121 (talk) 21:08, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Question about a location

Dear George,

I know this may sound silly and funny. But, I have a funny question... in the article about the Daily Telegraph you allowed the use of this photo http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Daily_Telegraph_building_in_London,_England,_1974.jpg There you say that you took this picture almost 40 years ago. And I want to ask you... Where was that building? I know it's a funny, somehow unexpected question, but i am writing a story and the daily telegraph has an important part on it. And i want to make it as realistic as possible... however, i'm having some trouble finding out where was the telegraph located in 1972. I've already ask the telegraph staff, but, they haven't answered... yet. So... although, this is weird... i ask for your help. I thank you for your time and patience.

By the way, My name is armando and if you remember anything, can you please send me the information to my email com

Thank you very much and have a nice day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.167.128.179 (talk) 06:52, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your work in addressing some of the issues raised by yesterday's New York Post article. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:49, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Catalan

Isn't it spoken in Italy too? (Islands). Andorra doesn't count as an EU state, of course. And M is common for currency values. Tony (talk) 05:03, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. The map shows only France, Spain and Andorra. Catalan is not spoken in Italy, to my knowledge. M can mean either a thousand or a million. Or lots of other things. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 08:27, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

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Central LA: region or city?

Hi,

You recently reverted an entry on several LA neighborhood articles from "central region of the City of Los Angeles" to "Central Los Angeles, California." The latter is misleading because it makes it seem like "Central Los Angeles" is a neighborhood, address or city of itself when it isn't. The idea to call this area comes from the Mapping L.A. project which clearly designates this area as a "region" of LA, not its own address, city, or neighborhood. Thus, the reversion to Central Los Angeles, California is clearly misleading. Isn't it? --Daniel E Romero (talk) 21:14, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with you. Now that you mention it, I would refer to the area as the central region of Los Angeles, California, with the internal link going to Central Los Angeles, rather than a link to Los Angeles, California. I personally do not like a whole lot of links in the lede. Good catch. GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:27, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Catherine Ashton -- Handling of Undue Weight Tag

Out of respect for your extensive record as an editor on Misplaced Pages, I think it only courteous to let you know that I have posted a short query on the Talk Page for Catherine Ashton questioning the approach you adopted to another editor's posting of an Undue Weight tag (a tag that, I am bound to say, seemed to me richly deserved). You removed the tag and told them, in spite of their candid admission that they lacked expertise in the field, that the answer was to "make the changes yourself. You can't expect other people to jump at your suggestion". (I gather you disapprove of singular "theys" but avoiding the usage here seems awkward). Perhaps you were merely the instrument of an institutional policy with which I am as yet unfamiliar? Your approach does, though, raise the question: "In that case, why have an Undue Weight tag at all?" Respectfully, Born only under Truman. Nandt1 (talk) 02:39, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. I think you are correct. I was rude. I haven't looked at this article in a long time. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 00:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, thank you for this very courteous response. Undoubtedly none of us bats 1000. For whatever it is worth, I have made a concentrated effort over the past few days to address the Undue Weight issue in the Ashton article. All best wishes to you with your future editing! Nandt1 (talk) 02:17, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Editing Catherine Ashton (again)

I see you have picked up this challenge again, and find a number of your edits quite useful. On the list of activities, I am sure you are right that some of the items you deleted were puffery. But perhaps not all. I suspect that the business of developing the new EU diplomatic service (however it was phrased) may be quite important as a piece of institution building for the future. If we lack a source, I would tend to advocate looking for a source rather than deleting the fact. But unlike you, I am an East coaster, and this is my bedtime! Nandt1 (talk) 05:20, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Well it's morning here. Overnight you have done a lot of very valuable copy editing on Lady A. I hope you won't mind too much if I reverse just a couple of your more substantive cuts. One is the diplomatic service issue I mentioned above. The other is to reinstate the first sentence of Mr. Oborne's quote, which does -- and I think was clearly meant to -- emphasize the element of recantation here. Again, best wishes in your future editing! Nandt1 (talk) 12:03, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

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Ethnic Character of Neighborhoods

Hi George,

You wrote: Hello. I notice that you have been editing articles about the neighborhoods in Los Angeles to omit the ethnic characteristics from the lead paragraphs of said articles, with (usually) edit summaries decrying the information as having "racial" overtones, or similar wording. Don't you agree that the ethnic character of a neighborhood is one of the district's most salient features? Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 03:41, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

My reply: Yes, I agree it is a salient feature but only if it is an area known for it being the center of a particular ethnic group. For example, Pico-Union is known as a hub for recent latino immigrants. Pico-Robertson is known as a jewish area. Chinatown - Chinese. Korea town - Koreans. Little Armenia - Armenians. So on and so forth. However, what I notice instead is the highlighting of how white an area is in the lead. E.g. this area is 70% white, this other one is 85% white, this is 48% white, etc. I don't think that is appropriate for an encyclopedia. Why should only whites be singled out as the main ethnic group to determine to highlight the ethnic composition of a neighborhood? That seems like racial overtones. For example, one answer could be demonstrating how appealing an area is, along the thinking that more white % is better. While that might not be the only answer possible, and there might be answers to that question with no racial overtones, it seems suspicious that for example, Century City might be highlighted for how white it is when there is nothing particularly notable about that. If it is the area in Los Angeles County or LA City with the highest percentage of whites, it then would be notable for that feature. But I see this being done in many (if not most) of the areas in LA where there are significant percentages of whites. How is that helpful? Are there any wikipedia guidelines on leads highlighting one ethnic group over another? It seems to me like a simple case of ethnic bias. No offense. --Daniel E Romero (talk) 04:52, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

But why single out Hispanics, Jews, Chinese, Koreans, etc., to be featured in the lead? If a place is overwhelmingly white, why not say so in the lead, since the ethnic composition, especially in Los Angeles, is so important to understanding the community? And what do you mean by "known to be"? We only know what WP:Reliable sources tell us.

Anyway, I am open to opening up this discussion to the WP community at large, and it would be nice if you and I could agree on the wording of a WP:RFC and a place to discuss it. I suggest the notice be placed at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/History and geography and the discussion take place at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_California/Los_Angeles_task_force. Do you agree, and would you care to propose some wording for the RFC that you and I can agree on before going to the community? Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:55, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I agree we should open it up for discussion. In general, we should also take advantage of this opportunity to answer the wider question of what a lead should look like in LA's neighborhood articles. I noticed a similar concern to mine addressed by user PlayCuz at another one of your entries on a local neighborhood article. I believe it was East Hollywood or Silver Lake]. There, he was concerned that the lead seemed like a real estate brochure: noting percentages of renters versus owners and income. He felt it was not appropriate for a neighborhood lead. I agree. While his concerns were not about race explicitly, my concern about race in the lead is a similar concern: an attempt to show how "desirable" an area is for visiting/investing/home purchasing purposes, etc. In Urban Planning literature, there is a multi-faceted approach taking to defining what a neighborhood is: a neighborhood is not only its population but its sights, landmarks, points of reference and unique non-quantifiable characteristics. Both my concern and PlayCuz's revolve around this idea. It seems to be that even if those entries of 80% white, etc. are not necessarily ethnically biased, the focus of having a lead start with population statistics hinders the opportunity and the reality of seeing a neighborhood as more than who lives there.

Therefore, I suggest that neighborhood leads should be no more than a few sentences highlighting the most salient features of a neighborhood (top 3-4 features) in every category: population, history, etc. Taking 1 sentence or a few words from each of the subsections in the article. Moreover, I propose that the lead should not focus on ethnic or income or education unless the distinction is truly unique: e.g. hub of a certain ethnic group's cultural institutions, or having the highest percentage of that ethnic group in the city or county, or any other population variable: education, income, etc. Otherwise, the article lead should simply state the most salient or notable feature that a neighborhood is known for. You question this later point, but it is easily sourceable by citing to tour guide books or newspaper articles.--Daniel E Romero (talk) 21:55, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Taking your and my concerns as a base, I think I can fashion a WP:Rfc today or tomorrow, and I can post it here to see if you agree with the wording before we actually open it for discussion. Suit you? GeorgeLouis (talk) 23:05, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Okay. There is a draft at User:GeorgeLouis/Sandbox. You can make suggest edits there if you like. GeorgeLouis (talk) 20:36, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I glanced at it, but I haven't had a chance to really examine it. It seems a bit lengthy, so if you want to edit it down somewhat, that would be nice. But, as I say, I haven't given it a thorough exam. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:18, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

I concur with GeorgeLouis that it is lengthy, but it compensates with the virtue of offering contrasting examples that clarify the relevant differences we are considering. PlayCuz (talk) 19:43, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for raising the issue. I fully share and have elsewhere expressed similar concerns with the way in which L.A. neighborhoods are described, relying almost exclusively on the (well-meaning, but not always objective or current) L.A. Times as source which is then treated as impervious to correction or modification. My point in describing the "white only" stats is that this is notoriously how real estate redlining occurs: clients otherwise interested in homes based on affordability are often "steered" away by pointing out to potential buyers that the neighborhood is not predominantly white based on official statistics (real estate brokers claim that, based on their experience of what homebuyers seek, this is merely a time-saver: why take clients to a minority neighborhood whereupon they will then decide it isn't "white" enough, when you can simply show them the ethnic stats and save everybody the trouble {and embarrassment} of eyeballing the actual community in question?). I object to Misplaced Pages reflecting and re-enforcing that practice, therefore I suggest this alternative recommendation for editing these types of articles as more NPOV. PlayCuz (talk) 19:43, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

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thanks!

thanks for your careful review of the Genetically modified food controversies article! Jytdog (talk) 04:57, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello!

I haven't seen you pop up on my watchlist for a while, and I was just editing Eastside, Los Angeles and thought of you, so I thought I'd say hello!— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 18:26, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I will go back to L.A. neighborhoods in a while, but I just got tired of fighting. GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I know the feeling. I hope I wasn't part of the problem. I just noticed this: File:Man wearing Purple Heart medal during Vietnam peace march, 1967.jpg while editing. It's a beautiful piece of work. I was there too. Oh what a time it was, what a time...Long ago, it must be, I have a photograph Preserve your memories; They're all that's left you...— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 04:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Silver certificate (United States)

Hi GeorgeLouis- I saw the tag you put on the silver certificate list. I made some changes in a user space draft and wondered if you could give me your opinion if THIS is better. Thanks in advance.-Godot13 (talk) 08:14, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

I am no expert, but I think you are on the right track. Here is what I did: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User%3AGodot13%2FList_of_United_States_Silver_Certificates&diff=596510741&oldid=596460212. Thanks for asking, and I will leave it to you at that. GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:48, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

I took your advice and cut and pasted the new version into the article space. Thanks.-Godot13 (talk) 18:52, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

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LA Meetup: March 9 edit-a-thon at MOCA

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Commons

Howdy George! Never encountered you before, but I saw some of your photos at Chevrolet Master and was intrigued. I then saw your numerous and valuable image uploads here at WP. I think it is a loss for those who edit in other languages that you keep them here, and I moved one image to the Commons. However, it took me ten minutes and was very boring, so I would like to respectfully wish/request/hope that you upload your often amazing photos to the Commons directly. Thanks a lot, hope to interact with you again in the future. Do you have any old photos from Macau? That would be great to see. Cheers,  Mr.choppers | ✎  02:13, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much! The reason that I don't place photos directly in Commons is that it is also, to me, a much more tedious process than just putting them in the English Misplaced Pages. Also, I have run across recalcitrant editors there who have questioned some of my work, so I just prefer to work with English-language people, who, although not perfect, are usually not so pedantic. But mainly the upload process in the English-language WP is just a lot easier. I am sorry that you have to bear the brunt of moving the photos to Commons, but isn't there an automated tool you could use?

Yes, I was in Macau, and I will look for the pix, although I think they have vanished. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 03:05, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I can kind of see why... when one just looks at the photos and the upload pattern, it looks like the photo stream of a copyvio offender (the photos are of rare times and places, uploaded in no particular order) - but ten minutes of following up your other edits should make things clear. I have often had to deal with meaningless deletions there; useful and perfectly safe (copyright wise) photos being deleted because an editor who retired seven years ago forgot to cross a "t" eight years ago, all because some busybody is looking to feel important. Anyhow, I'll see if those Macau shots won't turn up in an old shoebox after all!  Mr.choppers | ✎  01:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Recreation of Abby Martin

You really need to read Misplaced Pages:Copying within Misplaced Pages and Misplaced Pages:Requested moves and Help:Page history. What you did was not "bold", it was disruptive. Viriditas (talk) 01:34, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I've reverted your copy-and-paste move. That is not how we edit Misplaced Pages. Process is important. Viriditas (talk) 01:38, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I would also like to point out that you have violated the trust of the community. An administrator was kind enough to relinquish protection because he trusted editors would do the right thing. You did not, and you made every editor look bad. This is why we can't have nice things. Viriditas (talk) 01:42, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

We disagree, but I love you anyway, sweetie. GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:47, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you a lot for improving my article. Cheers! Ashish Lohorung (talk) 12:22, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

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CipherCloud

Hi GeorgeLouis,

Thanks for your help on the CipherCloud page. I moved the DCMA take-down notice material up to the "History" section. In the move, I removed the Wired magazine sentence for the paragraph, as it is used as the source for supporting the section. This was my edit: "In April 2013, CipherCloud filed a Digital Millennium Copyright Act takedown notice against Stack Exchange Network for posting a discussion titled "How is CipherCloud doing homomorphic encryption?", which CipherCloud claimed contained copyrighted marketing material to criticize the company." Does this work and/or should it be in that section? Thanks for your comments.Jppcap (talk) 23:41, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I appreciate your work as well. We both seem to be interested in the same kind of article! Anyway, can you re-post this or a similar message on the article's Talk Page at https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:CipherCloud because I think there are others also working on this topic. Also you might consider saying WHY you made the changes, even if it just "I think it reads better this way." Yours in Wikidom, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:30, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks for the advice! Jppcap (talk) 15:28, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for your work on the article. I think you have generally improved it. Just felt differently about one or two edits. - - MrBill3 (talk) 02:58, 12 May 2014 (UTC) BTW, RE: diff.

I thought "popular press" was an acceptable expression for magazines and newspapers as opposed to scientific press or trade press. Wouldn't mind hearing what you think is a good way to distinguish various elements of the media. Thanks and happy editing. - - MrBill3 (talk) 07:40, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Well, yes, "popular press" is often used that way, but someone who has never heard that term might be confused, so it would be better to just give the names of the publications, which would avoid any confusion. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:56, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hi George, I think your reversion of all of Salcruz91's edits is unwarranted, as most seem to be correct. Why did you revert them all? Go Phightins! 22:55, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

No sources. No edit summaries. How this guy could have done all that research within just a few hours in also suspicious. If I am wrong, I apologize. GeorgeLouis (talk) 00:05, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Also, he did not respond to notices on his talk page. GeorgeLouis (talk) 00:08, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

You should apologize to him ... I double checked some of it, and it looked right. All one would have to do is look at a page of players' statistics. And as for why he didn't respond, he is a brand new editor, and may not know how to use talk pages yet. I would suggest you remove your warnings from his talk page, and maybe politely inform him about edit summaries. Thank you very much, and happy editing! Go Phightins! 00:28, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your hard work. It sure looked like WP:Vandalism to me. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 00:33, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

No worries; we all make mistakes from time to time . Go Phightins! 02:08, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

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You keep doing TOC wrong and I keep fixing... Herman Silver

1. There can be no material between the TOC and first headline per WP:TOC and WP:LEAD. This is an accessibility issue for users of screen readers.
2. For atleast five years, nobody uses {| align="right" to move the TOC to the right. This is what {{TOC right}} is for.
3. TOC should go on the left side unless there is need to be on the right side. A long TOC or on disambig pages are examples where right side is applicable. Per WP:LEAD, "Avoid floating the table of contents if possible, as it breaks the standard look of pages."
4. An image is traditionally on the right side of the article.

They seem to be all on Los Angeles politicians. I've enjoyed reading them. They are all very interesting. Bgwhite (talk) 06:29, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate your work and the time it took to do it. don't intend to quarrel with anybody. All I know is that the "standard look of pages," so called, leaves annoying white space in the article. REALLY annoying white space. The relevant guideline states: "The TOC can, in some instances, be floated either right or left using { {TOC right} } or { {TOC left} } when it is beneficial to the layout of the article." That's what I do. It would be really nice if more Wikipedians would add well-sourced CONTENT to the encyclopedia instead of wasting time making unimportant changes to layout. I suggest if anybody wants to make a layout change, well, he should take it to the Talk Page of that article, where the matter can be discussed. It doesn't do morale any good to make unnecessary changes just for the sake of making them. As for images and tradition, well, good typographic layout has always been to have the subject in the image looking INTO the article. That makes sense. GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:41, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Please use {{ping}}, {{U}} or similar means when responding people. This is a matter of common courtesy.

It is policy to be able to allow everybody the chance to see all of the material. The policy is you can float the TOC as long as no material comes before the TOC and first heading. Two of the five pillars of Misplaced Pages covers this. If you want to challenge this, goto ANI and see if you can ignore the five pillars. This has been debated multiple times before and if you want, I can give multiple instances of where this stands. I and other who enforce this have had hundreds revert. They are all shoot down.

The rules of MOS is you follow it unless there is a good reason not to. MOS states do not put TOC on right unless there is good reason. DAB pages are one. A long TOC is another. Bgwhite (talk) 23:18, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Very few editors have ever accused me of lacking courtesy. I don't know what {{ping}}, {{U}} means at all. If anybody talks to me on my page here, that's where I respond. I would certainly like to see the material you have offered me. I believe you are talking about guidelines and not about policy. Nevertheless, just shoot me some links. Yours in wikidom, GeorgeLouis (talk) 03:29, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

• Please start using {{ping}} or {{U}}. Everybody has been using ping, U and others since notifications came on-line. This is common practice. Since this came into being, nobody now watches other talk pages for a reply unless they are page stalker. In this care, you are lacking courtesy.
• Changing position of TOC by {| align="left" | __TOC__ |} ended atleast 3 years ago and nobody is supposed to use it. Please use {{toc right}} or {{toc left}}.
• From this and other messages, you obviously do not keep up with rule changes and other changes. Things change all the time around here. Nobody can keep up with all the changes, but atleast attempt to.
• I hate anybody that says guidelines isn't policy, so I don't have to follow it. They are usually the same people that turns around and oppose a change saying it is a guideline, we should follow it. A guideline is something ALL editors follow unless for the occasional exceptions. We don't throw it away because we don't believe in it. "Editors should attempt to follow guidelines, though they are best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply. "
• You are choosing page ownership and looks over the ability of people to see all of the article. This is in no way a common sense exception.
• Other messages, This is about a talk we already had on the subject. Hear for other messages. Bgwhite (talk) 07:11, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

I prefer positive editing and writing. WP:There are no rules., so how can there be "rule changes"? The reason for that is so the encyclopedia will get improved by innovation. And one editor does not TELL another editor what to do; it is very demoralizing. I don't own any pages, and neither does any one else. As I mentioned before, I don't want to quarrel with anybody, so I shan't. It takes up time that I could be using to create articles. Take this message, for example: I've been agonizing over it for, oh, several minutes now, and it distresses me. I will put my output and quality of editing up against anybody else's. I would rather not continue this conversation: It is troubling. That's my gut feeling, and I hope it is respected. GeorgeLouis (talk) 10:53, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

My gosh, you can't teach a dead dog squat. This is about people with screen readers being able to actually read the article. Your page ownership issues and NO RULES issues over the ability of disabled people's rights (yes it is right via five pillars) is very disturbing. You are now going thru articles and reverting changes that I have made to comply with WP:TOC and WP:LEAD. I have shown you where the rules are located. I have shown you where it has been discussed that this is a rule that cannot be broken. I have shown you the leading person on disability issues in Misplaced Pages has argued this point. Any further reverting and breaking will be dealt with at ANI, where yes, this has also been discussed and blocks threatened if the editor did not stop.

I'm in no way taking issue with "output and quality of editing up against anybody else's". This is not the point and never has been. I've also praised your articles. I'm taking issue with your blatant disregard of allowing everybody to read and edit the entire article that you create. You have now said you don't follow guidelines, policy or the five pillars of Misplaced Pages with your, "WP:There are no rules., so how can there be "rule changes"?"

It is very demoralizing when somebody thinks this about him. It is very demoralizing when somebody refuses to create an article that EVERYBODY can read and edit. Bgwhite (talk) 06:54, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

In Misplaced Pages we work with consensus and since the consensus is that infoboxes and primary images go on the right we should respect that. The say way we should respect our visitors who use tablets, smartphones, etc. I agree with Bgwhite that ToC should stay in the place it is in all other pages. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 07:04, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Fine. Once there is consensus to remove WP:There are no rules as a WP:policy I might reconsider. In the meantime, "There are no rules." And since a problem has been called to my attention, I always put the TOC immediately after the first paragraph, as requested. So what is the problem? Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:57, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

• You are not linking the policy page. Page is WP:IAR.
• From Five Pillars, "Misplaced Pages does not have firm rules: Misplaced Pages has policies and guidelines, but they are not carved in stone; their content and interpretation can evolve over time. Their principles and spirit matter more than their literal wording, and sometimes improving Misplaced Pages requires making an exception. Be bold but not reckless in updating articles". (emphasis mine)
• Not allowing a group of readers to see all of the page is reckless and is not an exception.
• You always put the TOC on the left side and photo on the right. This hinders those on tablets, phones and other small devices.
• You never follow WP:TOC and WP:LEAD. For the fourth time, "There can be no material between the TOC and first headline". Bgwhite (talk) 19:36, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

• n.b., WP:There are no rules was an essay (in the loosest sense of that term) created by a sock of Fastwaylie. While it might serve as an (unpersuasive) justification for sock puppeteers, it has nothing to do with WP:IAR or enWP policy. I've nominated it for deletion. Lesser Cartographies (talk) 06:16, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

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You added material after a TOC again.

See Robert L. Burns

You are also once again putting material between the TOC and first header. Did you not see the editors telling you this is wrong at ANI? Also per MOS, images go first and TOC goes left, unless there is some good reason not to. Not and You don't have one a good reason. There are rules, even though you think there are none. You didn't listen to people at ANI. You don't acknowledge MOS. You didn't listen to people on your talk page. The only thing left is a block and nobody wants that. Your choice. Bgwhite (talk) 05:56, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

I received this message and read it. Honestly, I have not placed anything between the TOC and the first header since you called this problem to my attention. Maybe you have run across some articles I did before you so kindly informed me of the guideline in question. On the other hand, I've noticed you have been changing some of my layouts without a full explanation as to why you did it, or maybe an erroneous one, such as claiming that I violated some kind of TOC "rule." Usually when I make a layout I try to avoid large chunks of white space and also I like to have the photos face inward, in keeping with what (to my mind) is basic layout that I learned several decades ago when I did them for a living. In any new articles I do I will be sure to abide by the TOC guidelines that you pointed out to me, since I do not care to engage in any kind of back-and-forthing: I would rather just write and post.

Also I want to point out that the reason WP:TOC exists is so that writers and editors continue to have the freedom to try new things in the hopes that others will adopt them, all to the benefit of Misplaced Pages. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:06, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

"I have not placed anything between the TOC and the first header since you called this problem to my attention." See July 24, July 23, July 21, July 13 and June 28. Now stop lying.

We have already talked about image and TOC placement above and at ANI. Per WP:LEAD, " Avoid floating the table of contents if possible, as it breaks the standard look of pages. " WP:LEAD is MOS. We follow MOS, but there are "occasional exceptions". Your "blank space" edits were even reverted by others. There is no try new things in MOS. There is no do what we feel like in MOS. We also do not remove Infoboxes. There is no rule that there should no be there except for classical music, musicians and composers. Now stop making up excuses or pointing to essays. Stop your saying you will follow MOS, but actually don't. Bgwhite (talk) 23:51, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

I read the above and am simply appalled. I have no intention of getting into a debate when all I want to do is have a little enjoyment in life. This kind of stuff really takes the fun out of editing Misplaced Pages, which is one reason I haven't done it in a few days. I will check out the diffs that the esteemed editor cited above and try to see what he or she is getting at. (By the way, it would be really nice if somebody were to say, "GeorgeLouis, you have certainly added some interesting articles and done some really fine editing over the past several years. Gee, we are lucky to have a guy like you here!") Well, I can dream, can't I? Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:03, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

From #Table of Contents, "They seem to be all on Los Angeles politicians. I've enjoyed reading them. They are all very interesting."

You just reverted edits that four people agree upon. You reverted to once again put the TOC in wrong spot. I'm done. I'm requesting a block as you are just edit warring. Bgwhite (talk) 20:16, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

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Arab Institute for Holocaust Research and Education redirect

I didn't saw it, but you did a redirect of this article almost 2 years ago without letting me know the reason behind it. Like, maybe its not my business to ask you for notifications (not that it is covered in any of our guidelines) but it would be nice for the future to inform users like me about an upcoming redirect. Because now I am confused since the place is as important as its founder Khaled Kasab Mahameed. Shouldn't they both exist? Also, from what I remembered it was not even on AfD. Thanks.--Mishae (talk) 02:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't remember any of this. Sorry. GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Facial water

Hi, George! At Peridon's suggestion I had a look at the draft in your sandbox. I should note that I am not any kind of authority, not even an admin. I have absolutely no right to pass judgment on your article. I am just someone that Peridon trusts to give advice about people's proposed-but-controversial articles.

There are two issues that always need to be considered: whether the subject qualifies for a Misplaced Pages article (i.e., is it notable?), and the condition of the article itself. About the article itself: it is well written, but I strongly advise getting rid of the "products" list. That's an absolute magnet for somebody to tag the whole article as spam. Also, I notice that you left out any negative information, such as the report (reference 7) that many of the sprays are nothing but high-priced water, and the information (reference 1) that such sprays do not actually moisturize. I should warn you that if you don't add this balancing/NPOV material to the article, I will, when it goes live.

About the subject: I would say it's borderline. You have done a good job of finding and citing sources; in a brief search myself I couldn't find any to add. But the sources themselves are not the strongest - except for O they are minor fashion magazines and blogs - and for that reason I'm not sure the article would survive an AfD discussion. (BTW the "Dana Burke biography" link is not to a Dana Burke biography.) In particular you might consider whether the comments of a flight attendant, cited at a non-notable blog, actually add to or rather detract from the strength of the article. However, the article is strong enough that IMO it shouldn't qualify for SPEEDY or PROD. As for my own opinion about Facial water as a Misplaced Pages article: it certainly is a thing that exists and is talked about, and I think it might well qualify for an article here.

Bottom line, I will suggest to Peridon that he remove the block on the article and let you launch it and see what happens. If it gets deleted a third time - well, at that point it might be time to give up on this subject. --MelanieN (talk) 17:47, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

P.S. I notice that you are a paid editor with regard to this article; thank you for disclosing. You might want to consult with your client about my comments above. They need to realize that once the article is in mainspace, you will not be able to control the content of the article. --MelanieN (talk) 18:23, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Melanie. @GeorgeLouis - over to you. Do you want to risk it now or take some more time to make adjustments based on Melanie's comments? I won't unprotect the title until I hear from you as to your plans. BTW including longish indented quotes always rings a warning bell, especially when they are all pro-subject. They are like the 'housewives' on washing powder ads, or the 'reviews' of books and records on Amazon. On Facebook, fine. Best avoided here. Peridon (talk) 19:21, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I want to submit the newly fashioned article into Facial water. I've taken care of the warnings that the above editors gave me. If you would simply fix the Facial water page so that I can paste my offering into it, I would greatly appreciate your action. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 23:35, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I was going to suggest moving it, but you've got all sorts of other stuff in the history. Moving clears the history of the sandbox ready for the next thing. Too late now... If you want the sandbox cleared after this, tag it db-U1. OK, the title's unprotected. Up to you now... Peridon (talk) 00:59, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Lindsay Shearer-Nelko

The article looks better. Publishing the article once it no longer meets criteria for a WP:SPEEDY is WP:BOLD, fine, as long as you don't break something in the process. EBY (talk) 23:03, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Wait you cannot just copy a draft to the main space! You have to move it. The history needs to be there in the new article under copyright laws so as to give credit. You should have moved the page to the new title. You'll have to fix this now. King Of The Wise (talk) 01:17, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I think you could have done it since you know what the rules are and I didn't. That would have been the collegial thing to do. GeorgeLouis (talk) 12:36, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Er.. maybe you did not notice, but I did do it. I got your copy paste page deleted and then accepted the draft, moved it and did all the complementary cleaning up processes that have to be done then. I was merely trying to press upon you that that was not the right thing to do. I did fix it myself then. But anyways, thanks for your copy edit on that page. Theat made it easier for me to accept it. King Of The Wise (talk) 22:01, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

OK. Merçi. I was confused by "You'll have to fix this now." I guess you did all that work afterward. Thank you again. We are all working for the same goal. GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:25, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

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A cookie for you!

Thanks for your contribs to WIkipedia! Bananasoldier (talk) 06:37, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Yum! (Munch, munch.) To what do I owe this welcome hunk of luscious scrumptiousness? GeorgeLouis (talk) 06:59, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hello. Please see WP:THREAD, second box. Per that page, the indent level is for indicating which comment you're replying to, not for ease of reading. It can't serve both purposes. Your last edit, at Misplaced Pages:Help_desk#Editorial_policy, makes it appear as if Robert McClenon is replying to my comment, but he is not. I used to insert blank lines between speakers for readability, but I was recently told not to do that because of accessibility issues. I'll go ahead and revert your edit per WP:BRD, feel free to start a talk page discussion to explain why we should deviate from the guideline on this. Thanks. ―Mandruss ☎ 09:03, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. That's quite a change from when I started editing some eight years ago. I'll take note of that now. GeorgeLouis (talk) 09:12, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Item moved from wrong location

Hello, Mr. Louis: thanks for your support on my not being deleted. I hope I got you on the right page. Thanks. philipofBVMPhilipofBVM 22:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilipofBVM (talk • contribs)

Mr. George Louis, can you help me again, please? If not mistaken, you helped me at least once in a difficult post I wanted to make, and you did such, and then put the footnote refenence in for me. Thanks again. Can you help me locate that post again, as I can't seem to locate it??? Thanks. philipofBVMPhilipofBVM (talk) 02:46, 1 February 2015 (UTC) PhilipofBVM (talk) 02:46, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

If this is a contribution that YOU made, you can find a list by clicking on "Contributions" at the top of your own User Page. Otherwise, I do not know what you are referring to. GeorgeLouis (talk) 07:05, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

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