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Albania being a part of the Allies of the world
I sincerely do not understand why did you revert and protect the page regarding LupinoJacky's edit ? I mean his edit was a more than legitimate one , the sources do show that Albania was an Ally power . On the other hand the user: The Banner , is clearly biased . I understand that the first reaction is to always side with an experienced editor vs an unregistered one , and usually rightfully so but this was not the case here ;) . Regards , Gjirokastra15 (talk) 10:00, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
- I am not siding with the experienced editor but with the status quo, esp. given that the new editor seemed somewhat unaware of how these things are to be handled. Clearly this has the potential of being highly contentious, if it already isn't. That "the sources do show that Albania was an Ally (sic) power"--well, if that's so obvious, talk page consensus should be a formality. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:26, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
- The way i see it is this : There is a plethora of sources showing that Albania was an Ally power such as this one : The first peace treaty concluded between the Allies and a former Axis nation was with Italy . It was signed in Paris on February 10 , by representatives from Albania , Australia .... etc.etc. source »Encyclopedia of World War II, Volume 1 . Which is clearly stating Albania as an Ally power , thus listing Albania as an axis power is totally irrational given the fact that you will find not a single source stating that Albania was an axis power . Of course i am not saying that you have anything to do with it , do not get me wrong , but given the fact that you reverted on TheBanner's behalf i thought to let you know, being an administrator . As for the talk page i am seeing the talk page and LupinoJacky has brought a myriad of sources and referenced assertions these last days , while TheBanner has offered only POV & Sockpuppet accusations and 0 sources showing Albania as an axis power . I thought to just give you the full spectrum ( at least the way i understand it to be ) for obvious reasons ( you being an admin and being indirectly implicated to this ) . Gjirokastra15 (talk) 17:50, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
- Well, I appreciate the note, but in this case I'm really going to play the admin and say that I'm not involved in the content discussion. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
- The way i see it is this : There is a plethora of sources showing that Albania was an Ally power such as this one : The first peace treaty concluded between the Allies and a former Axis nation was with Italy . It was signed in Paris on February 10 , by representatives from Albania , Australia .... etc.etc. source »Encyclopedia of World War II, Volume 1 . Which is clearly stating Albania as an Ally power , thus listing Albania as an axis power is totally irrational given the fact that you will find not a single source stating that Albania was an axis power . Of course i am not saying that you have anything to do with it , do not get me wrong , but given the fact that you reverted on TheBanner's behalf i thought to let you know, being an administrator . As for the talk page i am seeing the talk page and LupinoJacky has brought a myriad of sources and referenced assertions these last days , while TheBanner has offered only POV & Sockpuppet accusations and 0 sources showing Albania as an axis power . I thought to just give you the full spectrum ( at least the way i understand it to be ) for obvious reasons ( you being an admin and being indirectly implicated to this ) . Gjirokastra15 (talk) 17:50, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
- If you play the admin and not get involved, then why do you respect TheBanner's decision to protect the page and not my subsequent request to unprotect it? I am curious to ask if the definition of an admin state that opinions of users having nickname "TheBannner" have a priority over users having nickname "LupinoJacky"? If not, then would you be kind enough to either explain the reasons why the page is still protected (do you think I am violating any rule) or unprotect the page. Respectfully, LupinoJacky (talk) 00:51, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- Right or wrong, after I discovered that LupinoJacky was widely canvassing, I effectively gave up. I have started a discussion on
- I strongly deny malicious accusations on canvassing. Given that the complexity of the topic and the adversary opinions expressed by an editor (exercised through persistent reverting of reference-backed edits), I contacted several users whom I believe to be knowledgeable and competent (based on their contribution on WW2 and Albania) on the matter to provide opinions and assistance. It is my utmost right to request inputs and opinions of users. At most, one should thank me for creating a quorum of opinions in order to improve the quality of the pages. Dear Drmies, either you prove those canvassing accusations against me if there is any truth in it, or you punish the user TheBanner? He cannot groundlessly accuse people and walk away as if nothing happened. LupinoJacky (talk) 13:38, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- You specifically invited people to intervene at your side of the disagreement with this: Dear Editors, -- Please let me kindly invite you to investigate and clarify the status of Albania as an Allied force. Since there is an editor below who unilaterally refuse even considering the provided facts and historical sources, then I invite a quorum of other editors (preferable with knowledge on WW2 history and Balkans) to investigate the case. Best Regards what clearly falls foul of Misplaced Pages:Canvassing. And you did that 12 times. The Banner talk 15:11, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- I strongly deny malicious accusations on canvassing. Given that the complexity of the topic and the adversary opinions expressed by an editor (exercised through persistent reverting of reference-backed edits), I contacted several users whom I believe to be knowledgeable and competent (based on their contribution on WW2 and Albania) on the matter to provide opinions and assistance. It is my utmost right to request inputs and opinions of users. At most, one should thank me for creating a quorum of opinions in order to improve the quality of the pages. Dear Drmies, either you prove those canvassing accusations against me if there is any truth in it, or you punish the user TheBanner? He cannot groundlessly accuse people and walk away as if nothing happened. LupinoJacky (talk) 13:38, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- LupinoJacky, it was I who semi-protected those articles. Drmies (talk) 16:17, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- How on earth can such a request be a canvassing: "Please let me kindly invite you to investigate and clarify the status of Albania as an Allied force...I invite a quorum of other editors (preferable with knowledge on WW2 history and Balkans) to investigate the case. " ? Dear Drmies, please take action against this accusations that have no relation to a serious behavior of an editor/admin? Citing Misplaced Pages:Canvassing "In general, it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, provided that it is done with the intent to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus.". My request to invite people to contribute their expertise to the discussion is a positive behavior, as I categorically did not ask them to support any side. Dear Drmies, as this case is obvious I request you to take the neccessary disciplinary action against TheBanner for ungrounded accusations. LupinoJacky (talk)
- Ah, well--let me count the ways. No, the first way suffices already: in your summary you left out "there is an editor below who unilaterally refuse even considering the provided facts and historical sources", so your message wasn't neutral to begin with. Sorry, but that's pretty obvious. The second way would be to investigate who you sent that message to, whether it was a carefully selected group of editors who can be assumed to favor your side. I don't wish to do that at this time. Now, the case of your canvassing is actually obvious. If you wish me to investigate the Banner to see what action I should take, my guess is that this is going to end with at least a warning, possibly a block--for the guilty party, which is you. Do tell me if you wish to pursue this further, or if you will be satisfied with trying to settle this in a more acceptable way, with arguments on the talk page. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 01:51, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Dear Drmies, I accept the mistake of kindly inviting other editors to investigate and clarify this issue, based on their relation to edits on WW2 and Albania. This is obviously a wrong action of mine, since the editor was very open minded in accepting and considering my sources and did not unilaterally try to block me using his direct/indirect powers. In that situation, I agree with you to not pursue this issue further, and settle it on talk pages. LupinoJacky (talk) 11:21, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- I think that's a great idea. Drmies (talk) 17:32, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
177.221.167.122
IP is evading block. I have reported IP as a sockpuppet of BenjaWF which is Gringoladomenega. SLBedit (talk) 16:31, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe--but I'm not sure why you're telling me this. EdJohnston placed the block. Anyway, I saw the SPI, but I'm no CU; if you want me to block on behavioral evidence (which is all I could do) you'll need a few more items of proof and an explanation or two, from other articles. Drmies (talk) 16:46, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Drmies and SLBedit. I've done some blocks after perusing Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/BenjaWF and have left an explanation in the SPI case. Thanks for the ping, EdJohnston (talk) 17:09, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
- No, Ed--thank you! Drmies (talk) 18:02, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Drmies and SLBedit. I've done some blocks after perusing Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/BenjaWF and have left an explanation in the SPI case. Thanks for the ping, EdJohnston (talk) 17:09, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Delayed response...
Hey there Drmies. I know we don't always agree (and that's a good thing in my opinion), but I wanted to take a moment to reply to a couple of your comments in a now closed discussion on ANI. First, with your comment of This discussion starts of with "inappropriate" as a key word, and I think you see that no one thinks it inappropriate
, there appeared to be a fairly split group of those that thought it was inappropriate and those that thought it was though they may think it strict
. That said, I'm not overlooking your point that I probably shouldn't have used the word "inappropriate" in the sub-section header, even with the "?" at the end to indicate that I wasn't attempting to make a pointed accusation but instead asking what the community thought. I know I have difficulties with 'picking the right wording' quite often, and I have been working on that for about 25 years now. Someday I'm sure I'll get it.
The second thing I wanted to reply to was the comment of it may surprise you to find that on occasion admins feel harassed by "regular" editors
. It certainly does not surprise me at all. That is why I slept on the idea and then did some research before starting the new subsection on ANI in the first place. I will say that I think that part of that is due to the fact that there is a fairly strong divide between administrators and regular editors as too many regulars don't see the admin toolset as just a set of tools which might be because there are one or two administrators who don't use them as such. Like the saying goes, it only takes one or two bad grapes to spoil the wine. As for but you're an admin hopeful, I believe
, you'd be very wrong. I'd much rather see a local interface editor
be created on enwp for me to be able to do the work I want to do. I honestly don't care much about blocking other editors, dealing with complaints and resolving disputes over squat, protecting pages outside of high-use/fragile templates, or deleting pages other than to make room for moves or whatnot. Short of that, I feel like I might be forced to run for admin to do the tasks I am good at and want to do. get ready to eat shit. Happy days
-- Yeah, I'm ready, happy days indeed (/sarcasm) — {{U|Technical 13}}
17:49, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
- Technical, I will find time to answer your question, I promise. Drmies (talk) 15:11, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- OK. First of all, I was pointing at the comments in your subsection: no one there thought the block "inappropriate". Seicer's point, that three admins had looked at it, is worth emphasizing as well. I'm not sure where you see this split. Second, I don't remember where I got the "admin hopeful" from--possibly the "Administrator hopefuls" category on your user page. :) In most cases, the blocking of editors is really not fun, despite popular opinion. I mean, vandals, racists, BLP abusers, that's easy. And I wasn't really criticizing you for using that word--I don't really think it's a terribly POV-y word--it's more a technical rhetorical use: I'm answering your question with "no", so to speak. Also, I noticed no one wished you a happy birthday, at least not in that thread: my apologies, I should have paid better attention. I do hope you got that robot, or dog, or Bacon of the Month subscription, or Meghan Trainor album, and everything else you wished for... Drmies (talk) 18:25, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- Time with my little girl was the only thing I got that I cared anything about. ;) —
{{U|Technical 13}}
21:05, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- Good! Enjoy it while it lasts. I have a baby in the house today and she's totally cute. The older children--well, they're racking up sins already, and one of them is paying for it this weekend...punishment...remember when they said "trust me, it hurts me more than you"? They were right. Drmies (talk) 23:56, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- Time with my little girl was the only thing I got that I cared anything about. ;) —
A cauliflower pizza for you!
A cauliflower pizza for you! | |
Thank you for trying to reduce the drama and silliness on ANI. I have tried closing threads myself but just don't seem to have the pizazz for it to stick. Let me know if you'd like extra cheese on that. Ritchie333 11:02, 7 February 2015 (UTC) |
- Thanks. I tell you what, it's odd. It's kind of like a crunch cauliflower casserole. Not bad, but not pizza. Fortunately I also made "real" pizzas for me and the kids, with BBQ chicken, pepperoni, and bacon. What I really need is a sieve to run the tomato sauce through... Drmies (talk) 16:07, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- I'll give it a go at some point. I've got a half-eaten cheese sandwich here that my stepson doesn't want because he (apparently) doesn't like chutney anymore. Shall I send it over? Pizzas are the great "stand-by" food for kids as everyone can make a decision on what toppings to have (which you can then say "sorry, we've only got cheese"). I don't think I've still ever seen actual pizza cheese, maybe they don't sell it over here. PS: Our album got released today. Ritchie333 16:17, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- That does not sound bad. That lady can sing. I expect all five of my talk page stalkers to get a copy. Congratulations! Drmies (talk) 16:40, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- I'll give it a go at some point. I've got a half-eaten cheese sandwich here that my stepson doesn't want because he (apparently) doesn't like chutney anymore. Shall I send it over? Pizzas are the great "stand-by" food for kids as everyone can make a decision on what toppings to have (which you can then say "sorry, we've only got cheese"). I don't think I've still ever seen actual pizza cheese, maybe they don't sell it over here. PS: Our album got released today. Ritchie333 16:17, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you sincerely, Drmies, for your actions here and your past advice and overall good adminiship. Despite Nola Carveth's circumstantial claims, please let me state in black and white here that I have done no promotional edits — just like the circumstantial fact I created and/or am a major contributor to List of African-American firsts, All-Negro Comics, Luther (comic strip), Lobo (Dell Comics), Dateline: Danger!, Wayne Howard, Alvin Hollingsworth, Billy Graham (comics), African characters in comics and Category:African-Americans in comic strips does not mean I'm necessarily black myself or promoting African-Americans.
Nola Carveth has continued to make unsubstantiated, outing-like claims against me on his/her talk page, now with the additional false claim of sockpuppetry — which I refuted, with details, at the Jimbo Wales page. May I please ask that his/her false and very upsetting charges be removed from his talk page? His/her posting there seems like a back-door way to spread hi/hers false accusations for whatever personal agenda he/she is pursuing. I thank you very much for any help .... you know I've done my best to be a good, conscientious and productive editor all these years, with many colleagues who respect my work and like collaborating with me. With best regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 17:38, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- Tenebrae, ... The cat is out of the bag. Crampudder (talk) 21:37, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, gladly. Tenebrae, I actually don't know you very well though I have seen your name plenty in the last few years--but I can tell a hatchet job well enough, and whoever oversighted Jimbo's page must have thought the same thing. Crampudder, Nola Carveth, this is not going to work. Drmies (talk) 22:10, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you and apology
Thank you for your resolution of the ANI action against Robert Walker.
Also I need to apologize: I must have been making an edit at the same time as you were closing out the action; I ended up inserting a minor edit after the action was closed. My apologies for that. It was certainly unintentional. Best regards, Dorje108 (talk) 22:32, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- p.s. I turned out my last edit did not go through, so no harm done. Best regards, Dorje108 (talk) 22:43, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- No problem--thanks. I hope Robert Walker was paying attention: there is no sanction yet, but he should realize he is put on notice, and if I find that in individual cases he is either being disruptive or harassing another editor, a block may result. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 23:03, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Secondary?
Is this secondary enough? http://greatimmigrants.carnegie.org/profile/dr-alexander-bolonkin/ Hafspajen (talk) 02:46, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Is it reliable enough for a BLP? Drmies (talk) 14:04, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- There's a publisher called the Delphic Ass? Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 06:28, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- WEll, I hate to point out the obvious, but there is not one reference left in the article. Why should the Carnegie Corporation of New York, 2014 come up with lies? And all the other guys info that I know about is correct. Hafspajen (talk) 15:21, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Haf, the really obvious thing is that this is a BLP, that there seems to be a history of plugging this person, and that the link is not to a reliable source. Why they'd have a reason to lie (or not check the accuracy of the facts they're provided with), I cannot answer that--but we ask for strict sourcing in part to keep fluff out. Drmies (talk) 17:20, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- WEll, I hate to point out the obvious, but there is not one reference left in the article. Why should the Carnegie Corporation of New York, 2014 come up with lies? And all the other guys info that I know about is correct. Hafspajen (talk) 15:21, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- I think I've done all the mucking about I can for now with Alexander Bolonkin; I've asked the author if he can help fix anything that's still messed up (such as tracking down what Leningrad Technological University is called now, and what Bayman Moscow Technical University is. And ... umm ... what all those scientific red links should be. And where his name is mentioned on ru. let me to another titbit of information. Somewhere there's an interview with him on Izvestia. Have a look again, please, folks. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:09, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Couldn't anyone help from the right project? Seriously this guy is a great scientist. And sitting in the gulag was not much more fun than sitting in a concentration camp, he has been inprisoned, tortured and exiled - we really could be a bit kind with him. And many never returned from the gulag - he is lucky to survived that part. Hafspajen (talk) 21:20, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- I added some details about his sentences from the Glasgow newspaper source. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 23:07, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Couldn't anyone help from the right project? Seriously this guy is a great scientist. And sitting in the gulag was not much more fun than sitting in a concentration camp, he has been inprisoned, tortured and exiled - we really could be a bit kind with him. And many never returned from the gulag - he is lucky to survived that part. Hafspajen (talk) 21:20, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Chart info per the album MOS
EXO articles make me weep. This is after I removed about four song charts from the article, as well. XOXO (album)#Charts is an article I'm trying to merge nine song articles into, but the chart section (which is exactly per the MOS, as far as I can tell) is such a mess I don't know what to do. Different markets are in different tables, different editions in different tables, different times of year in different tables, and it's all really ineffective. Yet it's per the albums MOS. I can't even figure out what to axe, because Gaon separated all the editions out, while other markets combined the editions. What can I remove while still following the MOS and retaining info that does (apparently) have a legit place in the article? (A custom combined chart's lookin' pretty good about now, I think, ha ha.) So yeah, advice would be appreciated. Please ignore ugliness in other parts of the article as I go about my mergin' business; it will be a bit dusty as I copypasta. :) Thank you! Shinyang-i (talk) 05:00, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Which MOS? Is there a Korean one, or just a regular one from the Albums project group? As with many of these articles, one of the problems is the plethora of information. Is all of it necessary? Why don't you ask a couple of old hands, who are experienced in the music article business? The first name that comes to mind is Dan56, but there's plenty of others. Good luck Shinyang--I'll look at the article more when I have a moment. Drmies (talk) 14:09, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- There's a Korean one but it's mostly for Korea-specific stuff. I mean the albums one, the one that came up with the f(x) merges I did recently. It seems to me, too, that some of the info should go, but which info? Darn Korea and it's 25 editions of everything! =P I'll shoot Dan56 a note. It'll help me for future editing, as well, because this issue is bound to come up again. And thanks for giving the articles a second look; a person can only edit & reword so many times before it all looks like Klingon. I'm making slow but sure progress! Shinyang-i (talk) 22:28, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Do you mean you are trying to merge chart tables from different song articles into the album article? If that's the case, I would merge them into a discography section for the artist instead, since it wouldn't be off-topic there or extraneous there. As far as what charts, I'm not familiar with Korean charts, but Billboard has a similar system of charts supplementary to the popular/main singles chart. You could trim to your discretion if you know which charts are most important. You could also mention the less important charts at XOXO (album)#Charts in prose (write out in a section somewhere that it charted on so-and-so chart) rather than embedded tables, keeping only the most important/main charts in table form. Dan56 (talk) 23:18, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Ah hello! Thanks for the response! The article you're seeing now is post-merge; I merged nine song articles into it. The charts section of the article is actually what it looks like after I removed the songs charts previously present (artist has a discography article already). The charts remaining all represent the album itself and important markets - US, China, Japan, and Korea; it's the home country of Korea (Gaon Charts) that's causing most of the problem. There are really no charts to trim out of it, as only two are shown - the albums chart and the international albums chart. Even removing the int'l chart wouldn't cut down on the number of tables present. It's the formatting of the material - every edition and every time frame in its own table - that (I think?) is mandated by the albums MOS that causes the central problem. No one edition or version is more or less important than the others. Putting it all in one custom table is (IMO clearly) the way to go, but alas, that violates the MOS. I've posted the issue at the WP Albums, as well, to gain more opinions. Thanks for your feedback, I will take it into account! :) Shinyang-i (talk) 01:30, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- Do you mean you are trying to merge chart tables from different song articles into the album article? If that's the case, I would merge them into a discography section for the artist instead, since it wouldn't be off-topic there or extraneous there. As far as what charts, I'm not familiar with Korean charts, but Billboard has a similar system of charts supplementary to the popular/main singles chart. You could trim to your discretion if you know which charts are most important. You could also mention the less important charts at XOXO (album)#Charts in prose (write out in a section somewhere that it charted on so-and-so chart) rather than embedded tables, keeping only the most important/main charts in table form. Dan56 (talk) 23:18, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- There's a Korean one but it's mostly for Korea-specific stuff. I mean the albums one, the one that came up with the f(x) merges I did recently. It seems to me, too, that some of the info should go, but which info? Darn Korea and it's 25 editions of everything! =P I'll shoot Dan56 a note. It'll help me for future editing, as well, because this issue is bound to come up again. And thanks for giving the articles a second look; a person can only edit & reword so many times before it all looks like Klingon. I'm making slow but sure progress! Shinyang-i (talk) 22:28, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Anyone have an opinion on something like this? User:Shinyang-i/sandbox3#Exo XOXO chart stuff Do you think that is close enough to the spirit of the albums MOS to be okay? Just playing around with ideas, here. Shinyang-i (talk) 01:50, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
ANI closure
Thank you for making the effort to close WP:ANI#Conduct_of_J_Doug_McLean. However, I think you missed the point of the complaint, and a significant amount of context was not taken into consideration.
You suggest an RfC process can be used to "judge insults". I never said any of the conduct I linked was insulting. In fact I described the subject of my complaint as "eloquent and persuasive". Are you aware that making unfounded allegations is a form of bullying?
You said you looked at "a number" of the diffs. Did you look at my "refuted" link? Do you think my words were taken out of context? Do you think the earlier comment I referred to there was a straw man?
Did you look at the context of the comment made towards myself and 0x0077BE? Did either of us make any such assertion at any time? If so, where? Does my link to "evidence" make it clear that I was making no such claim? Is misrepresenting the views of another editor against the civility policy?
The civility policy says that isolated incidents should be ignored, and only "ongoing incivility" should be confronted. It may be reasonable to say an isolated incident doesn't cross the "civility boundary" individually. It is easy to ignore isolated incidents, but an ongoing pattern is problematic. Is the civility policy supposed to address this?
How do I ask for a review of this closure? Burninthruthesky (talk) 10:05, 8 February 2015 (UTC); edited 19:56, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- I suppose you could ask on WP:AN. Drmies (talk) 14:05, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the prompt reply. I have done as you suggest and requested review at WP:AN#Request for review of closure at AN/I. Burninthruthesky (talk) 15:06, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Deletion of Sam Smyth
Hi, I left this message on User talk:Nakon and noticed afterwards that his last edit was on 19 April 2014 so is obviously not active. Could you oblige or redirect me to an appropriate admin. Thanks Cathar66 (talk) 16:36, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi I'm contacting you because as you were the admin that deleted Sam Smyth (at 04:06, 22 August 2010) on grounds of (G3: Vandalism) I had started working in my sandbox, on an article on this notable Irish journalist because it didn't exist. Because many of the bio sources are behind paywalls I wonder if you could do a TempUndelete of short duration so that I can access them and any other pertinent text. Reinventing wheels is a tedious and thankless task. I am aware that we live in diferent time zones so time is not of the essence. Thanks (left at 16:10, 8 February 2015 (UTC) )
- Ha, no, there is no way I can restore that--trust me, it is not an attempted article about an Irish journalist. It's not protected, so I think you can just go ahead and create it. Let me know if you run into any problems. Drmies (talk) 17:13, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I suppose Sam Smyth is a common name like Joe Bloggs. The times paywall is an exorbitant 1 pound for a 30 day trial which I am reluctant to pay into Murdoch's pockets. I will get a friend to subscribe for me as my current browser configuration makes form filling difficult. Take it easy. Cathar66 (talk) 18:20, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- You know, there's plenty of Britishers and maybe Irishers who might have access to what you need. Martinevans123 is one of them, I believe, as are Sitush and HJ Mitchell--though the latter is an admin and may not know anything about "content". There's also a place on Misplaced Pages where you can ask for folks to find you sources--I'll look for it. Drmies (talk) 19:25, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
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- Thanks Sitush! Drmies (talk) 20:14, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- This guy, I'm guessing. But I also refuse to line the pockets of The Dirty Digger! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:21, 8 February 2015 (UTC) Ireland is a great place, especially as it's full of da little people, so it is.
- Thanks Martinevans123 but if you're implying I'm a fairy I hate to disappoint you because I'm straight. Those and the fairies were real people - souterains were used defensively in Iron age times and before as a place to hide when hill forts were attacked.
- The people hiding came out at night hence the myths that became fairytales of fairy forts and fairies coming out at night. As an atheist I've always preferred the christian sect known today as Cathar(a church pejorative term now normalised and used in marketing by the Aude department in France) described themselves as bonhommes. Old onetime teachers always feel the need to explain even when explanations aren't necessary.
Academia was boring with too much empty posturing and ganes.I will follow up on Sitush suggestion and leave a message on those talk pages and deprive the digger of any ill gotten gains at my expense.Cathar66 (talk) 21:55, 8 February 2015 (UTC)- No, I would have just said you were a fairy, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:59, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- I have access (Free! Thank you, Birmingham libraries!) to "Times Digital Archive - complete from 1785 - 1985". There are only two search results for "Sam Smyth", both from the 1880s. One of those is a small ad, the other a notice about the election of Major Sam Smyth as mayor of Aldburgh on Sea. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:15, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: Andy, are you sure about the 1985 end date? If so then you may wish to sign up for the Manchester Central Libraries online access doo-dah, which extends it to somewhere in the 2000s. It is free to all UK residents, although it seems unlikely that this will help the needs of Cathar66. @Cathar66:, you could do the same if in the UK but, if not, then let me know and I will trawl The Times for you tomorrow, in so far as I can using the aforementioned scheme. If I find anything, I'll leave a note on your talk. Just refactored your post a little. I hope you do not mind. - Sitush (talk) 01:23, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yes; see: http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/libsubs Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:54, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- Try signing up for the Manchester version then. You do not have to be based in Manchester, just somewhere in the UK. - Sitush (talk) 09:57, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yes; see: http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/libsubs Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:54, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: Andy, are you sure about the 1985 end date? If so then you may wish to sign up for the Manchester Central Libraries online access doo-dah, which extends it to somewhere in the 2000s. It is free to all UK residents, although it seems unlikely that this will help the needs of Cathar66. @Cathar66:, you could do the same if in the UK but, if not, then let me know and I will trawl The Times for you tomorrow, in so far as I can using the aforementioned scheme. If I find anything, I'll leave a note on your talk. Just refactored your post a little. I hope you do not mind. - Sitush (talk) 01:23, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- This is the search string: . The first two articles are his profile and story . Unfortunately the site doesn't like my browser configuration so I can't see more than the tops of 2 articles. There seems to be a very substantial number of articles written by prominent Irish journalists that Irish media (for obvious reasons) and even the Guardian which I read daily haven't covered. I used to use the business section reading room in the Main library in Brumland. Is it still open? There was some talk of closure. When my IP refreshes I'll have another look. Thanks Cathar66 (talk) 00:17, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Promotional sandbox
FYI in case any flak comes your way - back in December 2011, you userfied User:Andrewudstraw/sandbox. In three years since then it has been developed into a full-fledged political poster listing all his "campaign themes". It was not heading towards an encyclopedia article, and I have just deleted it as spam. (He has also been trying to add his bio elsewhere). JohnCD (talk) 23:31, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Did you read his bio? I totally agree with the man on just about every issue, haha. The only thing I'm missing is an anti-gun stance, but hey, nobody is perfect. :) Drmies (talk) 01:23, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Hervé Falciani
…needs a good wash and brush-up if anyone's interested. I done a bit. He's "headlining" (or rather his files are) today. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 08:10, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Bogus looking edits to Madan Mohan Malaviya Engineering College page
I note that you left a message on the talk page of Ankurtrip123 about edits to Madan Mohan Malaviya Engineering College. I note that they and some others, which may be the same editor, have been making new, similar, presumably bogus edits to the same page. One, Gsyadav1994 also made some edits to Connection-oriented communication that didn't look especially malicious, but were, at least, unhelpful. And I've dealt with them already. But not knowing owt about Madan Mohan Malaviya Engineering College, I haven't revereted anything there - but it looks well mucked-up to me. Thought you might be interested.
Graham.Fountain | Talk 10:13, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
For-Profit Higher Education in the United States (Naming and Shaming)
The people I named with close ties to for-profit colleges is well documented. Yet you decided to remove all the information. Is this how you work? Dahnshaulis (talk) 12:18, 9 February 2015 (UTC)