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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	for your work on Hindawi Publishing Corporation. Fgnievinski (talk) 01:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for your help in the barred lizard wikipage MThuneibat (talk) 18:19, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

University of Oregon Department of Computer and Information Science

Hi Animalparty,

I noticed the tags you put on University of Oregon Department of Computer and Information Science, so I added five more sources. Is there anything else you think should be done? Convert the faculty links to references, maybe? Ckere (talk) 04:35, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

More units to consider

I noticed your "please use spaces in article titles" comment and see you have done a little cleaning. However, before you do any more please look at User talk:Shevonsilva#Pages created (and other recent comments on that page). I think all the pages should be considered together rather than spending half an hour puzzling over each. I'm coming to the view that an WP:AFD for most of them would be in order unless something comes to light soon regarding whether the source is somehow reliable. Johnuniq (talk) 06:24, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Wild life disease-Merging

Hi Animalparty! It would be great if you could respond to the talk on Wildlife disease. Manum56 (talk) 04:12, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Oh, you'd better watch out, you'd better not cry, you'd better not pout, I'm telling you why Christmas Velociraptor is coming to town He sees you when you sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for your life's sake Oh, you'd better watch out, you'd better not cry, you'd better not pout, I'm telling you why Christmas Velociraptor is coming to town Merry Christmas, and watch out for the Christmas Velociraptor, IJReid (talk) 25 December 2014

WikiProject Beetles

Hi! It's Gug01. I know that you are interested in animals and because you are part of WP:WikiProject Arthropods, I was thinking that we could revive the WikiProject Beetles, which is a descendant project from WikiProject Arthropods that is currently semi-active. Please reply as soon as you can. Gug01 (talk) 23:10, 27 December 2014 (UTC) Gug 01

Chrysophlegma

Hi! Chrysophlegma used to divert to Picus. I tied myself up in knots a bit, hence the disambiguation when it doesn't seem necessary. Green daemon (talk) 23:54, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

@Green daemon: No problem, I have put in a technical request to move the title. Keeping the myriad species and synonyms and articles current can be quite a chore, keep up the good work! --Animalparty-- (talk) 00:03, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Cheers! :) Green daemon (talk) 00:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC) Hey. Got your message re: IUCN and IOC. Will use IOC for species recognition from now on. IUCN still good for status and range maps. Cheers for the heads up. Green daemon (talk) 19:15, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

RE: A page you started (Macrosoma klagesi) has been reviewed!

Hello Animalparty,

Thanks for reviewing the page Macrosoma klagesi, I saw your note in my talk page, but didn't understand you clearly. You have mentioned not to use undefined jargon; it would be helpful if you let me know if anything wrong I mentioned.

Regards,
Tapas Bose 17:05, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

@Tapas.23571113: I was referring to general guidelines that Misplaced Pages articles should be written to be understandable by general readers, not just scientists. Jargon refers to technical terms that can often be explained in more familiar language. See WP:NOTJARGON #7: "A Misplaced Pages article should not be presented on the assumption that the reader is well versed in the topic's field." and #8: "Texts should be written for everyday readers, not just for academics..." Macrosoma klagesi and many other Macrosoma articles appear written for specialists, understandably given the scientific literature cited, but those sources are written for lepidopterists and other entomologists; Misplaced Pages articles should be written for a more general audience, and we as editors should promote comprehension over mere facts. Most readers will not understand things like "Saccus is short. The medial component of gnathos is not downcurved..." What exactly is a saccus and a gnathos? More tips and information again is at Make technical articles understandable, and Writing better articles. For more specific examples, see how description is handled in some of the recognized best Lepidoptera articles on Misplaced Pages: e.g. Chrysiridia rhipheus, Abantiades latipennis and Lulworth skipper. These articles impart knowledge without excessive use of specialized terminology. At Hedylidae, although technical terms are used, they are at least wikilinked to aid in comprehension. If you haven't already, you might find more helpful tips and resources at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Lepidoptera or Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Insects. Please don't mistake this advice for discouragement: your contributions are welcome! If you have additional questions please ask. Cheers! --Animalparty-- (talk) 20:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

@Animalparty: Thank you for the explanation. I have interest in Entomology but I am not a professional in this field. So I have to rely on the academic articles. For the Macrosoma I didn't find much of the online resources and I am hoping if any specialist of this field would edit or add more information on these topics. I will try to describe the terms now on and will edit my previous pages. Regards,Tapas Bose 08:32, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Cursorimorphae

Hello there, how are you? Sorry I did not leave a comment sooner as I had internet issues… regarding what you said, no Javis and his team did not compared the names, but thinking about it "Telamtorae" or "Charadriimorphae" might have been created when Gruiformes used to contain oddballs like bustards, seriemas, Kagu, etc. I will change that. 4444hhhh (talk) 20:04, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Taurhina splendens

Hi there, thanks for your help. I fixed the page and added a reference.

Ryanvanhuyssteen (talk) 07:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Do we have to reference everything?

Hi, I created Bajanaspis based on the fact that it is mentioned on various websites. Thanks for your edits. I suspect only the original description pays attention to this trilobite, and it looks like it that this article is in Russian, and has not been scanned and uploaded anywhere. So for comprehensiveness I created the ulitimate stub saying virtually nothing. I now sourced it to get rid of this horrible unsourced template, but I do not think it desirable to source the leads of articles, particularly if these are so poor in content as this one. Regards, Dwergenpaartje (talk) 12:26, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

@Dwergenpaartje:Thanks for adding the source. And yes, every article, even a stub, needs at least one reference, per verifiability policy, and if you want others to build upon your stubs, adding a reference is the best way to give them a starting point. In my opinion, creating stubs that say virtually nothing is of limited value, albeit the information in Bajanaspis is slightly better than the too-common biology stubs that simply state: "X is a species of Y named by Author in Year". Cheers, and happy editing. --Animalparty-- (talk) 21:50, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Alberta Biodiversity Monitoring Institute curation

Thanks Animalparty for your helpful comments on the article Alberta Biodiversity Monitoring Institute. Yes, it definitely needs to be expanded in terms of history and projects. I will be working on this over time and I am hoping other interested editors will add to it. I will probably work on integrating the 2003 study into thematic research areas. I am looking for more references that are not created by the Institute and related agencies.Oceanflynn (talk) 23:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Problem solved

I fixed the problem you mentioned on my talk page. Heteroponera leae ants are more southerly distributed. Burklemore1 (talk) 06:58, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

I loved your work!

	Blue diamond.
	Please, don´t go away. I need you, sangha diamond. My body, my words and my mind are yours. Marcioseno (talk) 20:49, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

list of marine mammals

Hi @Animalparty,

Yes, I have linked it to the Cetartiodactyla page as its debated still but current research suggests the its the true Order. The discussion is both on the Marine mammal page and the Cetartiodactyla pages. I felt that it should not be too extensive on the page which is just a list. But I will add a short footnote. I am the Education Committee Chair for the Society for Marine Mammalogy and we will be adding the remainder of IUCN red list statuses during a editathon which we will host called the Marine Mammal WikiSprint in late January. The draft course page can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/Education_Program:Society_for_Marine_Mammalogy/Marine_Mammal_WikiSprint_%28Winter%29

Perhaps you'd like to enroll. It would be great to have some strong Wikipedians involved!

Thanks ShaneGero (talk) 07:54, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Parthenogenesis infobox

I'm currently going through WP:WikiProject Gender Studies articles and labelling any that don't have an infobox. Looking at the article the taxobox template might be appropriate. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 01:01, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

@The Vintage Feminist: The taxobox is a special infobox for biological taxa, i.e. taxonomic ranks like, species, orders, phyla, etc. (see Tiger or Insect for usage) Parthenogenesis is a reproductive mode used by many unrelated organisms, so Taxobox would not apply. This might be a case when a well-written lead is more practical than an infobox. --Animalparty-- (talk) 01:08, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I may actually take it out of WP:WikiProject Gender Studies as gender studies has more to do with identity formation in human beings, nature versus nurture, rather than this form of asexual reproduction. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 01:19, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Afterthought, I've added it to WP:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality, it's more their sort of thing. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 01:50, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Anematichthys repasson

I believe those two articles actually describe the same species? >> Cyclocheilichthys repasson and >> Anematichthys repasson. What do you think? Dan Koehl (talk) 22:51, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, those are synonyms, see FishBase synonyms. I saw that after editing Anematichthys repasson. Catalog of Fishes suggests Cyclocheilichthys is the valid genus, yet Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Fishes#Taxonomy suggests we use FishBase on Misplaced Pages. --Animalparty-- (talk) 23:35, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Im still not 100% how to deal with this species, and which name is presently valid, so I renewed my question at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Fishes, nothing personal, I just want to get more peoples feedback on the issue. I agree with you that Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Fishes#Taxonomy suggests we use FishBase, but since this is maybe not the absolute best source for taxonomy, I want to see what others say. Best regards, Dan Koehl (talk) 03:16, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Species collaboration?

Hi, Animalparty, how are you? I noticed that you have a lot of experience working with species articles, so I was wondering if we could do some collaboration on species articles. I could learn a lot from you! Regardless, thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages! Bananasoldier (talk) 04:29, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello! What did you have in mind by collaboration? I'll try my best to offer advice when I can. --Animalparty-- (talk) 03:51, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

As if right now, I have nothing in mind, but please let me know if you find a species stub that has a lot of potential refs out there. Bananasoldier (talk) 04:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

This....

This is called, somebody just learned how to use InkScape! Joking aside, do you have thoughts on how to approach the Ornate shrew article, since there are already two articles going on separate subspecies? I'd like to take it to GA status, but not sure how to avoid Misplaced Pages:Content forking. One thought would be to bring the subspecies articles into the parent species article, then have just one large article. Any advice would be appreciated. --Gaff (talk) 21:18, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

@Gaff:Welcome to Inkscape! I meant no disrespect with the "lesser quality" comment, but as it does not clearly show important or diagnostic traits, it seems superfluous. I'm not sure if merging the subspecies is warranted yet: perhaps first the species article should be more fully developed, with each subspecies succinctly described in a table similar to Brown bear (red-links may not then not even be needed), only linking the subspecies with existing articles. --Animalparty-- (talk) 21:44, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

No offense taken. It's not easy to find images of smaller mammals, since they are more elusive and not as photogenic as the larger beasts. The skull drawing was made when I was still searching for the better images. Another shrew skull drawing (different animal) is in the works here, by a much more skilled illustrator. Thanks for the guidance. I'll use Brown bear as a model. Gaff (talk) 23:07, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Darwinia oxylepis

Hello Animalparty (or perhaps Eagleeye),

Thanks for your note about D. oxylepis - you are perfectly correct. I should have read more carefully and written something like - "currently meets the IUCN Red List Category EN...." (although the reference I used is now 11 years old!). It will be fixed in the next few minutes.

Cheers!

Gderrin (talk) 03:44, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Done now. Thanks again.

Gderrin (talk) 04:03, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Unfair

So my page can be deleted but not https://en.wikipedia.org/I_am_lonely_will_anyone_speak_to_me Really? Beyonder (talk) 19:39, 25 January 2015 (UTC)Beyonder

@BeyonderGod: when your website is significantly covered by Wired, The Guardian, The New Yorker, or any other reliable source, only then is your article worth having on Misplaced Pages, per General notability guidelines. See also Misplaced Pages:Other stuff exists, and feel free to nominate any article you feel warrants deletion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion. --Animalparty-- (talk) 19:48, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I would like to see the page on those covers please to validate the claims you made. Beyonder (talk) 19:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC)Beyonder

@BeyonderGod: Wired, Guardian, New Yorker discuss I am lonely will anyone speak to me. My own opinion is that article is dumb and frivolous, but several reliable publications thought it worth discussing, and my opinions do not dictate WP:Notability, nor do those of any Misplaced Pages editor. See also WP:NOTGUIDE #4: Misplaced Pages is not an internet guide. --Animalparty-- (talk) 20:07, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Disappearance of Jim Thompson (designer)

Hi Animalparty,

Thanks for reviewing the page Disappearance of Jim Thompson (designer).

Please arrange for the article to be deleted.

I’ll continue to work on the original article whenever I’ve the time to do so.

Regards.

Roysouza (talk) 12:02, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

How to read the "short description" section?

Hi Animalparty! I was wondering if you could explain to me what units are being used under "Short description", as I'm not 100% experienced with using FishBase. www.fishbase.org/summary/Liparis-mucosus.html Thank you! Bananasoldier (talk) 04:08, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

@Bananasoldier: There are no units, those are the numbers of spiny rays and soft rays in the dorsal fins, anal fins, etc. See Fin ray for more details. --Animalparty-- (talk) 04:13, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh! Wow, now I feel very silly. Thank you very much! Bananasoldier (talk) 04:15, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

@Animalparty: Just one more thing: where can I find the FishBase species I.D. from the given link? Bananasoldier (talk) 04:20, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

@Bananasoldier: It's a bit indirect but if you hover over many of the species-specific links on the page (e.g. Common name or synonyms), the url should appear at the bottom of the page, with the ID number in it (in this case ID=4197). Clicking one of those links similar shows the URL (e.g. Common names of Liparis mucosus.

Berkley Media Studies Group

Hello, I'm interested in why you removed one of the citations from this stub. Is there a WP policy or guideline against citing the source of an article? If not, please undo, and let's discuss it on the talk page first. Thanks, and have a great day. Darknipples (talk) 20:00, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

I've responded at the talk page. Cheers. --Animalparty-- (talk) 20:34, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Original research tagging

Hi AP, I noticed that you added a couple of tags to the article I recently created The X-Files sources and analogues. While i can understand your concerns regarding some of the sources, I don't know how the original research tag stands as I cited the statements in the article even if some of the sources require replacement. Please bring up your concerns on the talk page of the article so that the tags can be clarified. Thanks--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 01:41, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

• I've added more reliable sources to back up the self-published one, so is OK to remove the self-published tag? If you still have any issues witht eh citations, then please share on the talk page--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 21:45, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

IUCN citation template

Good morning! Wonderful rain we're having. I was wondering if you could help me format a citation for www.iucnredlist.org/details/202437/0, or if it's okay to copy & paste the citation the page gives at the bottom (NatureServe 2013. Elassoma evergladei. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. Version 2014.3. <www.iucnredlist.org>. Downloaded on 30 January 2015.). Thanks for everything! Bananasoldier (talk) 16:50, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

 Done No worries! I figured it out! Bananasoldier (talk) 21:01, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Also

Also, what do you think of the Liparis_marmoratus#Description I wrote? Would it be considered WP:close paraphrasing, or is it acceptable to have information from only one source? Very little information is published about the fish because of its rarity. Bananasoldier (talk) 16:57, 30 January 2015 (UTC)  Done Bananasoldier (talk) 21:32, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Request for advice: Speedy deletion nomination of Molarity (disambiguation)

Regarding the speedy deletion nomination of Molarity (disambiguation), I will first confess that I have only a little experience crafting disambiguations.

Second, there is indeed a primary topic, as the chemistry term "molarity" will more frequently be the object of a search. However, the page for Molarity simply redirects to molar concentration. So if I put a notice on the primary "molarity" article to the effect of "Molarity may also refer to Molarity (comic strip)," almost nobody will ever read it. I decided to create a disambiguation page. Perhaps if I had more experience, I might have made a better decision.

Can you suggest a better method to disambiguate? For example, should I edit the "molar concentration" article to include a reference to the comic strip?

Third, your message refers to a button reading "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". I cannot find such a button. Beamjockey (talk) 20:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

@Beamjockey: I have already added a dab to molar concentration. Dab pages are generally not needed when only two titles share the same name: see WP:2DABS. I hope this helps! --Animalparty-- (talk) 20:35, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

@Animalparty: Thanks for taking care of that. Somebody has since killed Molarity (disambiguation), so I think all is well now. Beamjockey (talk) 17:43, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I think Wiktionary is

fine for supergroup regardless of the number of definitions it has. I'm unsure about creating a WP article for it though. ComfyKem (talk) 10:53, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Lineville College

Thanks for the note about references. I cleaned it up and added a second reference. Can I remove your warning note at the top? Haiku Tea (talk) 15:07, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

@Haiku Tea: No not yet: both references are still Primary sources. the article needs references that don't come from the school brochure, nor the notes of a student who went there. You should certainly not copy the text of a brochure word for word. We need book, news, or reliable internet coverage of the College itself. If you spend time in libraries, you might find third party information in a book on the history of Alabama. There are some sources that at least mention the college briefly on Google Books, you should consult those and similar to find enough info to construct an article. When was the college built? Is it still around and if not when did it close? If these facts cannot be verified, the article has little chance of expanding. --Animalparty-- (talk) 23:24, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I will change the structure of the wording as it is the brochure text and look for more references. I closed in the early 1900's. Haiku Tea (talk) 19:41, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Haliplus variegatus

Thanks for the review and input. Now it looks much better. Sorry that didn't went all the way to the bottom.--Mishae (talk) 04:17, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Reviving WikiProject Paleontology Paleontologists Taskforce

Hello,

I noticed you have edited the Paleontologists taskforce page, and have indicated interested in science biographies, so I wanted to let you know that I am interested in gathering interest in this taskforce to help improve the quality of Misplaced Pages's coverage of paleontologists. The taskforce now has a template to tag articles, and I hope to help expand the articles within the scope of this project. Hza a 9 (talk) 22:48, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I've responded on the talk page, and am looking forward to this. --Animalparty-- (talk) 22:51, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Qari mufti aqeel

You tagged Qari mufti aqeel for deletion, but tag was removed. I added a tag again. Please help me keep an eye on this article.--DThomsen8 (talk) 14:07, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Sunshine!

		Sunshine!
		Hello Animalparty! Gug01 (talk) has given you a bit of sunshine to brighten your day! Sunshine promotes WikiLove and hopefully it has made your day better. Spread the sunshine by adding {{subst:User:Meaghan/Sunshine}} to someone else's talk page, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. In addition, you can spread the sunshine to anyone who visits your userpage and/or talk page by adding {{User:Meaghan/Sunshine icon}}. Happy editing! Gug01 (talk) 00:04, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Duivelsberg/Wylerberg

There's the question! The Dutch wikipedia page is nl:Duivelsberg (heuvel). The German page is de:Wylerberg. The border area is both Dutch and German speaking. I don't want to start off a Dutch-German border incident (I'm sure the Allies don't want to have to retake the hill all over again) which is why I used both names. Let me look at the precedents. Fiachra10003 (talk) 20:57, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

"Breeding" and "Nonbreeding" fish?

Hi Animalparty! I was wondering if you could explain the terms "breeding" and "nonbreeding" fish as mentioned in the "description" paragraph: . Are they referring to mature vs. juveniles? Thanks, --Bananasoldier (talk) 23:53, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

@Bananasoldier: I believe that's referring to males of some species changing in color or morphology during breeding season, similar to some birds (a breeding plumage molting to a less colorful plumage). So it would apply to mature individuals, but not necessarily year-round. --Animalparty-- (talk) 00:13, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

@Animalparty: Thank you! Bananasoldier (talk) 00:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Generalization

I don't think that saying "Please stop inferring generalities from very specific papers" was very nice of you. First of all, I assume that you are aware that I follow the guidelines no worse then anyone else here, and I cite books and journals which are appropriate. I don't now what you mean by "consulting a single other source" and using "big picture" sources? Back when I started editing here, I used BugGuide and Biolib.cz as an RS but people told me that its not reliable, (same thing with EUNIS and ITIS). And since beetles are not covered by news sources and majority of scientific papers (since they don't extract any venom that can be useful in medical journals (unlike ants)) its virtually impossible to find another reliable source. I'm sorry if my stubs make you feel angry at me for generalizing and probably are simply written, but I sometimes don't find anything that is of use. I can try visit my college library at some point though. Chances are at null though there...:( This is as far as this species will go: Dicerca pugionata.--Mishae (talk) 00:33, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

@Mishae: I'm sorry if I came across as angry. By big picture sources I mean a source that is large enough in scope to reliably make meaningful assertions. The article you cite at Dicerca pugionata concerns only bugs recorded in Pennsylvania, which is not incorrect but which omits all the places the bugs are also found. While the BugGuide page for Dicerca pugionata may not be a reliable source, like any good Misplaced Pages article it will cite reliable sources like this one, which gives the whole range for the species on page 279.

I have previously observed you generalizing or incorrectly inferring from primary literature (see my previous comments on your own talk page). For instance, stating color, (e.g. Athous angulifrons, Athous tauricola) from sources that merely include a picture, runs the risk of incorrectly characterizing reality: a species could be variously colored, or differ between sexes, or the lighting/color of the photo could be poor, etc., thus making assertions not explicitly verified can be problematic. Another instance, the "endemic to Macedonia" status of Athous turcicus appears based on the first two photos here but is falsified by the third image).

You've contributed many articles to Misplaced Pages, which no doubt expand the encyclopedia and serve as useful starting points, but thus it is all the more important to ensure each of your creations are well-sourced and measured in their statements, in case unnoticed, uncorrected misrepresentations are perpetuated in the many mirrors of Misplaced Pages. --Animalparty-- (talk) 01:43, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

O.K. I have fixed Athous turcicus article. To be honest, its latin name implies that its native to Turkey but I can't find sources that might confirm that.--Mishae (talk) 01:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

What is a better source for film credits than IMDB?

That headline pretty much says it all.  :-) Msalt (talk) 01:09, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@Msalt: Basically any source that is not user-generated. A news article, or other source with a reputation for integrity. Please see WP:RS/IMDB for rationale, and WP:RELIABLE for how to identify reliable sources. Cheers. --Animalparty-- (talk) 01:14, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Gonzalo Giribet

I have seen that you tag the above article for primary sources. I'm wondering what is considered a reliable source for academics, considering that they are not covered by major news publications (except for Dr.OZ/Dr.Phil)?--Mishae (talk) 02:30, 19 February 2015 (UTC)