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Geography

With no source to describe its geography, editors should refrain from applying their personal biases in interpreting primary sources like a map. Either describe the geographical situation in non-emotive, neutral terms, or drop that description from the lead. I invented "it's not you, it's me" (talk) 02:55, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

If a map shows a place almost surrounded by a wall, there is absolutely no reason to not say that it is almost surrounded by a wall. It is not an interpretation but just a reading. If you want to argue that the map does not show the place almost surrounded by a wall, go ahead and make a case. If you want to challenge the reliability of the map, go ahead and make a case. If you want to argue that we must not say what the source says, read WP:NPOV instead. Zero 08:04, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

The source does not say "the place almost surrounded by a wall" - that is your personal interpretation, which means didly squat. The source is a map, whcih shows a wall to the east and south, a refugee camp to he west, and an wide open space through which a highway passes, to the North. Find a source that says what you claim, or stop pushing your POV. I invented "it's not you, it's me" (talk) 05:13, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Actually the source does say that the place is almost surrounded by a wall. Just as one need some skill to read a text in a foreign language, one needs some skill to read a map. Everyone who has that skill can look at the map and immediately see that I have correctly reported it. Your version also incorrectly implies that highway 437 reaches Anata; it doesn't. I'll add a map and sources that support my reading. Zero 09:48, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

:. The source does not "say" anything - it is a map. I have excellent map reading skills, and truly a 10 year old can see that what I wrote is correct::it shows a wall to the east and south, a refugee camp to he west, and an wide open space through which a highway passes, ". you need to edit in accordance with wikipedia policies, not your personal biases. I invented "it's not you, it's me" (talk) 14:40, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Maps of a few years ago show a planned barrier route that closes the current north-east gap in the barrier. I don't see that on more recent maps; does anyone know the story of that? Zero 09:48, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

I have checked sooner today and it is not on google map. I assume that the Israeli administration considered the highway was enough to close the area. In many places the "barriers" is really just a fence. I cannot see if there is a fence around the highway. But there is no wall.Pluto2012 (talk) 14:27, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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