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What makes you think that I have a conflict on interest in the article ]? ] (]) 03:59, 20 March 2015 (UTC) | What makes you think that I have a conflict on interest in the article ]? ] (]) 03:59, 20 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
:Well... You clearly have a general interest in Israel-related matters.]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] On its own this would of course be neither relevant nor conflicting, but some of the edits you made were just unreasonable and caused me to believe you are showing a conflict of interest. Can you tell me how the sole article on the history of Jews and slavery falls under ] and ]? It puts undue weight on both views to stamp such a label on the article. Both originate from the merger of "Jews and slavery" with this article, and are thus outdated and redundant. Furthermore, the story of the Egyptian exodus is shown as if it were indisputable, which is ]. Other removals were simply too POV, despite partisan accounts reporting them. Example: "total domination of one human being by another" was not permitted in Israel according to the current article, yet tells a different tale. While most of the slaves were gentiles, it is said "The main source of non-Hebrew slaves were prisoners of war"; what war? This is not specified and it is simply dubious, as the article further states that slaves were mostly better off than non-slaves. It was a common fact that Israel was a nation where ] were treated differently. And "This law is unique in the Ancient Near East." regarding the 'equal treatment' of Israeli slaves is a huge generalization. Of all the kingdoms and empires in the ancient Near East, from Sumer to Persia, none were more gentle with their slaves than the Israelites? For such a bold claim one needs a lot of good sources. Overall I disagreed with the tone that was in the talk page generally agreed upon to be POV. I made several edits and instead of editing what you thought was wrong, it seemed you simply reverted it all based on simplicity. Don't you at least agree that it's not at all neutral at the moment? Either we make it a whole lot shorter by removing redundant information or we drastically alter it. ] (]) 13:10, 21 March 2015 (UTC) | :Well... You clearly have a general interest in Israel-related matters.]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] On its own this would of course be neither relevant nor conflicting, but some of the edits you made were just unreasonable and caused me to believe you are showing a conflict of interest. Can you tell me how the sole article on the history of Jews and slavery falls under and ? It puts undue weight on both views to stamp such a label on the article. Both originate from the merger of "Jews and slavery" with this article, and are thus outdated and redundant. Furthermore, the story of the Egyptian exodus is shown as if it were indisputable, which is ]. Other removals were simply too POV, despite partisan accounts reporting them. Example: "total domination of one human being by another" was not permitted in Israel according to the current article, yet tells a different tale. While most of the slaves were gentiles, it is said "The main source of non-Hebrew slaves were prisoners of war"; what war? This is not specified and it is simply dubious, as the article further states that slaves were mostly better off than non-slaves. It was a common fact that Israel was a nation where ] were treated differently. And "This law is unique in the Ancient Near East." regarding the 'equal treatment' of Israeli slaves is a huge generalization. Of all the kingdoms and empires in the ancient Near East, from Sumer to Persia, none were more gentle with their slaves than the Israelites? For such a bold claim one needs a lot of good sources. Overall I disagreed with the tone that was in the talk page generally agreed upon to be POV. I made several edits and instead of editing what you thought was wrong, it seemed you simply reverted it all based on simplicity. Don't you at least agree that it's not at all neutral at the moment? Either we make it a whole lot shorter by removing redundant information or we drastically alter it. ] (]) 13:10, 21 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Jewish views on slavery
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What makes you think that I have a conflict on interest in the article Jewish views on slavery? Aha... (talk) 03:59, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
- Well... You clearly have a general interest in Israel-related matters. On its own this would of course be neither relevant nor conflicting, but some of the edits you made were just unreasonable and caused me to believe you are showing a conflict of interest. Can you tell me how the sole article on the history of Jews and slavery falls under Category:Antisemitic Canards and Category: Antisemitism? It puts undue weight on both views to stamp such a label on the article. Both originate from the merger of "Jews and slavery" with this article, and are thus outdated and redundant. Furthermore, the story of the Egyptian exodus is shown as if it were indisputable, which is in no way neutral. Other removals were simply too POV, despite partisan accounts reporting them. Example: "total domination of one human being by another" was not permitted in Israel according to the current article, yet Leviticus 25:44-46 tells a different tale. While most of the slaves were gentiles, it is said "The main source of non-Hebrew slaves were prisoners of war"; what war? This is not specified and it is simply dubious, as the article further states that slaves were mostly better off than non-slaves. It was a common fact that Israel was a nation where gentiles were treated differently. And "This law is unique in the Ancient Near East." regarding the 'equal treatment' of Israeli slaves is a huge generalization. Of all the kingdoms and empires in the ancient Near East, from Sumer to Persia, none were more gentle with their slaves than the Israelites? For such a bold claim one needs a lot of good sources. Overall I disagreed with the tone that was in the talk page generally agreed upon to be POV. I made several edits and instead of editing what you thought was wrong, it seemed you simply reverted it all based on simplicity. Don't you at least agree that it's not at all neutral at the moment? Either we make it a whole lot shorter by removing redundant information or we drastically alter it. Prinsgezinde (talk) 13:10, 21 March 2015 (UTC)