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=== Statement by Swarm === === Statement by Swarm ===
The relevant AN/I thread is at ]. As evidenced there, Hell in a Bucket is disruptively '''''restoring vandalism''''' to articles that's being undone by the banned user who added it. This is insanity and HIAB deserves a whale for this one. The second paragraph of ] states that administrators "are never required to use their tools". ] states, "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Misplaced Pages, ignore it." ] states, "Do not follow an overly strict interpretation of the letter of policy without consideration for the principles of policies." As I , if any administrator were to disagree with us they would be well within their rights to block the user in question, but attempting to punish us for not following a rule for the ''benefit of the encyclopedia'' is nothing short of utterly ridiculous and I won't defend myself against this absurdity further. ] ] 18:16, 1 April 2015 (UTC) The relevant AN/I thread is at ]. As evidenced there, Hell in a Bucket is disruptively '''''restoring vandalism''''' to articles that's being undone by the banned user who added it. This is insanity and HIAB deserves a whale for this one. The second paragraph of ] states that administrators "are never required to use their tools". ] states, "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Misplaced Pages, ignore it." ] states, "Do not follow an overly strict interpretation of the letter of policy without consideration for the principles of policies." As I , if any administrator were to disagree with us they would be well within their rights to block the user in question, but attempting to punish us for not following a rule for the ''benefit of the encyclopedia'' is nothing short of utterly ridiculous and I won't defend myself against this absurdity further. ] ] 18:16, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
*{{ping|Hell in a Bucket}} None of that even remotely contradicts our well-reasoned justification for not blocking the user. ] ] 18:24, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


=== Statement by Fred Bauder === === Statement by Fred Bauder ===

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Banning Policy II

Initiated by Hell in a Bucket (talk) at 18:05, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Statement by Hell in a Bucket

Well I thought this was sortedin the banning policy case but apparently User:Swarm and User:Fred Bauder think it's ok to use discretion on banned users. The policies and finding have been pointed out and the response is that admin get to do what they want. I think that needs a admonishment at best or frankly a good desyopping. In case anyone is worried this was a borderline judgement if you see User:Saint Kohser you can see the evidence is there, there is no doubt who it is. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 18:13, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

  • User:Swarm I'd run scared too if I hadn't read "2) When an editor's conduct is exceptionally disruptive or inappropriate, that user may be banned from editing Misplaced Pages. Banned editors are prohibited from editing Misplaced Pages in any way, from any account or anonymously, and all contributions made in defiance of a ban are subject to immediate removal. While users in good standing are permitted to restore content from banned users by taking ownership of that content, such restoration should be undertaken rarely and with extreme caution, as banned editors have already had to be removed for disruptive and problematic behavior. A user who nonetheless chooses to do so accepts full responsibility for the consequences of the material so restored." ] but I'm sure such things are beneath you as admin. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 18:21, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Statement by Swarm

The relevant AN/I thread is at WP:ANI#Immediate block request of User:Saint Kohser. As evidenced there, Hell in a Bucket is disruptively restoring vandalism to articles that's being undone by the banned user who added it. This is insanity and HIAB deserves a whale for this one. The second paragraph of Misplaced Pages:Administrators states that administrators "are never required to use their tools". Misplaced Pages:Ignore all rules states, "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Misplaced Pages, ignore it." WP:BURO states, "Do not follow an overly strict interpretation of the letter of policy without consideration for the principles of policies." As I explained at ANI, if any administrator were to disagree with us they would be well within their rights to block the user in question, but attempting to punish us for not following a rule for the benefit of the encyclopedia is nothing short of utterly ridiculous and I won't defend myself against this absurdity further. Swarm 18:16, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Statement by Fred Bauder

I plead common sense. User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:21, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Statement by Spartaz

Is this an April Fools joke? Spartaz 18:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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