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Tentative? Odenkirk confirmed?

According to Variety, Odenkirk will reprise the role. According to Digital Spy, no decision has been made yet. As for "tentative"... not a word anywhere. I don't think we should force this into the article until something concrete can be cited. Chunk5Darth (talk) 15:54, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Odenkirk Has stated in previous interviews before the news broke that he would love a prequel plus why do the prequel without Odenkirk? Encmetalhead (talk) 19:23, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

You said nothing that proves me wrong. Please don't reinsert the info unless you can back it up with verifiable information. I'll humor you anyway:

1. Odenkirk stated in previous interviews that he would love to do a spin-off. That doesn't mean that it actually happened with him. No logic here whatsoever.
2. Why do the prequel without him? Because the series might portray a much younger Saul Goodman, and according to the two sources I provided, there are conflicting reports. Therefore, we need to wait until something concrete comes along, and only then insert it into the article. After all, this is an encyclopedia. Chunk5Darth (talk) 06:18, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Here's another article reporting that casting has not been confirmed yet. Chunk5Darth (talk) 08:29, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Genres

Comedy and drama? Is this just an assumption. Should it be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.176.136.30 (talk) 08:30, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Black comedy would be more like it, a la Breaking Bad, which was the same.. — Wyliepedia 15:47, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Prequel?

„Maybe it's prequel? Maybe it's sequel? Maybe it's both? They're talking about mixing it up.“ article

Can't see how a single show could be both, given the fate of Saul in BB. A prequel in Albuquerque would work, a sequel in Nebraska less so - it could provide more of a clean slate to work with but loses any other connection with BB, which would make it less attractive to the network. Pjaymes (talk) 03:52, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Jonathan Banks just got cast as Mike Ehrmantraut, who was killed by Walter White in Breaking Bad, so I'm betting it's a prequel. — Wyliepedia 15:45, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Renewed For 2nd Season, Wait, What?

How can the show be renewed for a second season when the series won't even premiere until 2015? Is this something someone put in as a joke or is a confirmed fact? I find it hard to believe that AMC would renew a series that hasn't even premiered on their network yet. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 19:28, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

The renewal is legitimate. They've ordered 23 episodes (10 for season one, and a second season of 13) based on the success of Breaking Bad. It's unusual, but becoming more and more common for cable networks to renew series before their premiere dates. Starz has done it with almost every original series since Spartacus. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 23:44, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Writing team and episode directors

The directors of each season 1 episode and the writing team is publicly known, so I'm guessing that'd be pretty relevant to put somewhere, don't you guys think?

It follows:

Episode 1 - directed by Vince Gilligan, written by Gilligan and Peter Gould Episode 2 - directed by Michelle MacLaren, written by Gould Episode 3 - directed by Terry McDonough, written by Thomas Schnauz Episode 4 - directed by Colin Bucksey, written by Gennifer Hutchison Episode 5 - directed by Nicole Kassell, Episode 6 - directed by Adam Bernstein Episode 7 - directed by Larysa Kondracki, written by Hutchison Episode 8 - directed by Colin Bucksey Episode 9 - written and directed by Schnauz Episode 10 - written and directed by Gould

For episodes 5, 6, and 8, Gordon Smith is also confirmed to have written 2 episodes, and Bradley Paul has 1, so its between them.

If they are "publicly known," all we need is a reliable source to cite. WP:V Barte (talk) 09:26, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Opening theme song (Request help)

I'm not great at formatting and sourcing, but I've added credits to the band that was hired to create the opening theme to the show. Source: http://littlebarrie.com/little-barrie-write-and-perform-main-title-theme-to-breaking-bad-prequel/ Thanks. ErdoS (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:20, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Good topic

It might be nice to have a goal of making articles related to Better Call Saul a Good topic:

"Uno"

"Mijo"

"Nacho"

"Hero"

"Alpine Shepherd Boy"

"Five-O"

"Bingo"

"Rico"

"Pimento"

"Marco"

Feel free to update along the way! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:09, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

US vs U.S. – per MOS:ABBR

"use "US" in articles with other national abbreviations, e.g. "UK" or "UAE"." -- see current talk here Talk:24 (TV series)#US is correct per MOS:ABBR. Jimthing (talk) 19:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

U.S. should be used, per WP:NOTUSA. As Drovethrughosts pointed out, you intentionally created this problem here when you incorrectly decided to abbreviate United Kingdom. -- Calidum 19:27, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Exactly. A manufactured problem in order to force an edit in pursuit of a personal agenda doesn't allow for the change made. --Drmargi (talk) 20:37, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

U.S. is a more broadly used term for the United States in media. I've seen the term used on quite a lot of Misplaced Pages show pages too. Also It's typically favorable to go along with the consensus for an article, if you don't agree with the consensus, walk away. Getting into an edit war like you have done on the main article solves nothing. 86.15.195.205 (talk) 00:38, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Partially outdated

Some parts of this article - particularly "Casting" - as well as some sources are outdated. They make it look like the series has not yet aired, mostly pointing to future plans that have been since fulfilled, while some information even changed since those sources were published. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 22:27, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

If no one contests the lack of relevance, I will go ahead and blank the section. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 21:53, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

No, do not blank the content. That is not helpful in any way. It details the casting of all the major actors, I fail to see how that's not worthy of inclusion. Improve it, don't just delete it. Drovethrughosts (talk) 21:57, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't exactly detail the casting, it states that "this actor was cast for this role". There is virtually no information in that section that cannot be found in the cast list, and most sources are dated from before the pilot episode air date. It is redundant and outdated. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 22:02, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Of course the sources are from the before the pilot episode aired, because the article was created way before that. This is an encyclopedia, we detail the entire history of a subject, not just what's current. Again, blanking it is not helpful. Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:05, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Too much duplicated content

Someone went ahead and created Better Call Saul (season 1). The gigantic table with episode summaries was copied onto that article. There is absolutely no need to keep it here anymore, as it just keeps the article bloated and puts WP:UNDUE weight on that particular section. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 03:53, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

There is already a discussion about the split, which was not done correctly, there. --Drmargi (talk) 05:05, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Quick note about plot summaries in this article

Hey all, a quick note for those who are watchlisting this article: per WP:TVPLOT the target wordcount for the episode synopses is 150-200 100-200 words. That gives everyone flexibility to go beyond a basic logline, but also some guidance to reel it in before it gets too long. A few of the summaries are too long. "Pimento" is 368. "RICO" is 296. "Bingo" is 270. "Five-O" is 323. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:47, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I've trimmed "Uno" from 284 words down to 215. I think this is OK since we *do* have to get out some of the pipe. I cut a lot of stuff, most of it irrelevant to our understanding of that episode's plot. We don't need to mention Mike, we don't need to know where exactly in Nebraska Jimmy is, or what format the old videos are in. There were many wordy redundancies "low on money from a lack of lucrative cases", "Jimmy unsuccessfully tries to convince potential clients ... to hire him to defend their case ... the Kettlemans are later seen at HHM", etc. (Obviously he's unsuccessful if they wind up at HHM, obviously they're potential clients if he's trying to get their business, and so forth.) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:27, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I've trimmed "Mijo" from 295 words to 199. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:21, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

This is a sequel & prequel...Saul's fate & transformation is key...Peace is contagious (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:53, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, yeah. Vague. Please use indents so the threads can be read more easily. The issue is about overly-detailed plot summaries. There was enough detail in this version of the pilot episode to communicate that Jimmy has a crappy job, and is sitting at home reminiscing. You still haven't explained with any clarity why we need details about his mustache, the tape format his commercials are recorded on, that the opening is in black and white, etc. (And for the casual reader sitting at home, much of this has been rasied on Peace's talk page, to no successful explanation). Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:13, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

So I get it now, the concise summry goes here & the detailed sum. under the individual ep. entry. ...so now I"m trimming it & these 2 goof-balls want it a cookie-recipe type summary ...LOL Sartre couldn't write this type of absurd melodrama :P Peace is contagious (talk) 15:25, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

You need tone it down, you've been warned about your uncivil comments. I also suggest writing with proper grammar and spelling, it just makes you look immature. I simply reinstated the summary the article has always had, it's perfectly fine as it summarizes the episode in an acceptable length (198 words). Your version is not an improvement. You also need to stop acting like you're the one enforcing guidelines, when you were told multiple times yesterday regarding how to write plot summaries and the correct length and all you did was ignore it. Stop being disruptive. Drovethrughosts (talk) 15:32, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Ne

né is the past participle of a popular encyclopedic abrev. from the French naitre (to be born)Peace is contagious (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:24, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

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