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Spammers: I would like for this page to stay reasonably clean. If you have business with me, feel free to leave a comment, else please move on. Please ignore the gigantic eye in the corner with the pump-action shotgun.

Unsigned messages will be ignored. You can sign your messages with four tildes (~~~~). I reserve the right to disruptively eliminate gigantic blobs of wiki-markup from signatures on a whim if I think they're cluttering up my talk page.

Undeletion

I did not undelete the city names article just to spite you or something. I saw it referred to from an article (in a valid context), and having previously viewed the article, I was curious as to why it was red-linked.

I checked the page, and was rather shocked to see a page of 2000+ edits deleted. Nevertheless, I assumed there was a deletion debate I had missed, so I checked out the deleted history (for some reason the talk page was left without a deleted notice pointing to the debate).

Having seen that the deletion was applied under erroneous circumstances (there was no consensus to delete. Consensus may be a subjective thing, but it's certainly >50%), I undeleted. I would have posted to votes for undeletion if it had been validly deleted, but as its deletion had not been accepted on the Afd page, I didn't see that as necessary.

Apologies for not posting you a notice.

zoney ♣ talk 13:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

But you see, it was already on votes for undeletion (DRV). Your action was completely unnecessary. Moreover, it's up to DRV to determine if deletion was erroneous (and it will likely determine so), not just one admin. Mackensen (talk) 13:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I apologise for my actions, having reviewed Misplaced Pages:Undeletion policy it seems I was indeed in error. Where I was coming from is detailed in my personal response to Lar at User talk:Lar. zoney ♣ talk 14:54, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Response to request for information

I have provided a response to your request for more information at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser#TPIRFanSteve. If you need more specific information, please feel free to let me know. Thanks! - CobaltBlueTony 15:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Unrelated? Perhaps you have another explanation of my observations, especially after the appearance of Daor Nedlog (talk · contribs). Every new user comes in and supports User:TPIRFanSteve, regardless of whether he's right. What's his game, then? - CobaltBlueTony 17:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Unknown. My observations are based on IP evidence. Mackensen (talk) 19:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your efforts. They are genuinely appreciated! - CobaltBlueTony 14:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Arbor View High School on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Arbor View High School. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. --Deathphoenix ʕ 00:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, thanks, I expected as much. Mackensen (talk) 02:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- I did some more investigation of this school and found several attributes that I found notable and thought were article-worthy. (Starting with it being the largest school in the fifth largest school district in the country.) As you deleted the article "without prejudice to re-creation", I took the liberty of creating it again in a somewhat expanded form. Thank you. — RJH (talk) 02:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  - Outstanding. Happy editing, Mackensen (talk) 02:54, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Names of European cities in different languages

It appears you closed this AfD as a "Delete" on the 27th (along with the other 2), but the article is still here?--Isotope23 19:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

It's a really long story. I'd suggest wandering over to WP:DRV for full comprehension. Short version: I deleted; deletion was challenged; another admin undeleted one (but not the other two) by accident/on purpose. Mackensen (talk) 20:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough... thanks.--Isotope23 15:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser for General Tojo

I have added some requests for check user for possible additional sock puppets which have sprung up, if you could investigtate: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser#General_Tojo. Thanks. Andrew73 21:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I've added a couple more names for checkuser! Thanks. Andrew73 11:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Names of Asian cities in different languages on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Names of Asian cities in different languages. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. The same for Names of African cities in different languages. Thanks. --Lysy 22:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Walt Disney logos

I'm somewhat concerned about your deletion of Logos of the Walt Disney company. How is this case different from, e.g., Closing logos of Viacom or Google logo? There was clearly no consensus for deletion, so what policy is your decision to close the debate with deletion based on? Is there an actual policy against fair use galleries in encyclopedic articles?--Eloquence * 18:43, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I suppose the major difference is that I didn't close those two. There's no specific policy against fair use galleries per se, but I cannot imagine any scenario in which you could have a gallery composed of fair use images without breaching that doctrine. There's no need to enable copyright violation; it's rampant enough as is. Mackensen (talk) 02:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

CheckUser

Hi. You recently handled a CheckUser of my account and the account of one of my friends. The incident that spurred this also involved two new users, User:Plinky and User:Daor Nedlog, who are unrelated to me but who others suspect I am using to meatpuppet. When I came home tonight, I discovered that someone has now created the blatant imposter account of User:TPlRFanSteve and was using it for vandalism before it was blocked.

If I were to request a CheckUser of Plinky, Daor Nedlog, and TPlRFanSteve, would I be able to find out if one or more of them is editing from Dayton, Ohio (and more specifically, the Dayton Public Library System)? If they are, there's a very good chance that they're a person named Harvey Daye, Jr. who has been trolling the online game show community for close to six years and who holds a particularly large grudge against me. This is getting to a point where it's ridiculous, and I'd like to at least know if there's an explanation for it that reaches beyond Misplaced Pages. -TPIRFanSteve 01:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Even if I obtained such information I would be unable to release it absent extraordinary circumstances. If you can demonstrate systematic harrassment then we can block him on sight regardless of his actual identity. Mackensen (talk) 02:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. Don't want to do anything that would violate policy. -TPIRFanSteve 03:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser clerk assistance

Aside from the tag on the checkuser page, I do belive many of the checkuser clerks have Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/Clerks/Requests watchlisted. Big red flag for help if you post a comment there. Its there for you to bug the clerks. Discussiony stuff is on that page's associated talk page. There's other pages there that were created several weeks back that you may find interesting, but mainly the noticeboard is all you probably need to read. Of a related note, I'm currently looking at Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Ceraurus. It all screwy, but I'll finish it tonight, probably late. Kevin_b_er 05:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Its done! Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/Clerks/Requests#Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser.2FCase.2FCeraurus Keep in mind that my summary is, of course, unofficial as checkuser clerks are quite unofficial. Kevin_b_er 08:55, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks. Mackensen (talk) 12:08, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Haris Cizmic

I had assumed at the time of closing that they were sockpuppets and was not suprised to see you tag Lionette earlier. Do you think that even with the sockpuppet activity that the three articles, Haris Cizmic, Adisa Cizmic and AXA (band) should be listed for AfD? I did believe that Haris Cizmic was notable enough to warrent an article in light of the changes to the article, the provided references and most of the delete comments were prior to the changes. Which is why I closed it as keep, against consensus (suprised I didn't get any complaints about that). Can you check the three articles and if you think they should be relisted I will do it as a group and list it due to sockpuppetry. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Nah, they're too busy taking all of my closes to DRV so you slipped through ;). I think for transparency's sake they should all be relisted so that an actual discussion can take place. The three articles seem to me to be hovering on the edge of inclusion, and they're marred by bad formatting and likely copyvios. Mackensen (talk) 13:34, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

All done. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 14:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Haris Cizmic AfD

I'm the guy who started this whole mess. Once I was able to quiet the mob, a good-faith effort was made to fix the page to Misplaced Pages standards. Once I asked them to put that energy into fixing the page instead, The sockpuppetry essentially ceased. The pages as they stand now meet Misplaced Pages standards, and editors other than the sockpuppets put a lot of effort into helping them get fixed instead of deleted. If a sanction is necessary, it would be better to sanction the editors who behaved badly, instead of pages that would otherwise not be up for deletion. --DarkAudit 15:47, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Haris Cizmic copyright violations

If the images are the work of the author of the page (or a young nephew as a favor, see AfD for Haris Cizmic's input), how can they be a copyright violation? There was a good bit of discussion on this in the original AfD, and it appeared that the matter was settled satisfactorally. --DarkAudit 15:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

PLZ Help

How to interpret your judgement .Does this mean I am being declared as sock of user:wmnnzzr.Holywarrior 15:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

It means what it says. Mackensen (talk) 16:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

RFCU General Tojo

Can you take another look at Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/General Tojo? They're adding more names and asking for a range block. Thatcher131 16:52, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Mwahahahaha

Looks like you've landed the job of being Lead Checker now <insert evil laugh here>; ping me when you're feeling overloaded and I'll do my best to lend a hand. Will check in inasmuch as is possible while retaining my sanity. ;) Thanks for doing the job, and my sympathies on the harassment that will no doubt soon beseige you. Essjay (Talk • Connect) 08:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. Glad to see you around again. Mackensen (talk) 10:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Request for IP disclosure

I see that the privacy policy allows for disclosure of IP addresses turned up using CheckUser in the interests of combatting vandalism. Well, User:Dragon Emperor has threatened to keep making sockpuppets. I would be interested in obtaining the IP address(es) of Dragon Emperor so I can place nice long blocks on them to combat the abusive socks. I'll be in the admin IRC channel if you'd prefer to disclose the IP privately. Thanks. --Lord Deskana (talk) 22:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, I contacted you because you responded to the checkuser case. Thanks for that, by the way. --Lord Deskana (talk) 22:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Walt Disney logos discussion

Hello,

I was looking for the previous discussion of the Walt Disney logos page, which was at Talk:Logos of the Walt Disney company. Do you know where it went? You didn't, by any chance, use your "oversight" privilege?--Eloquence * 12:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the discussion in question is here: Talk:Logos of the Walt Disney Company. Appears Calton (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) tagged it as a speedy last night. Eloquence, I've got considerable respect for you as a long-time contributor (longer than myself by far), but I'm really offended by the insinuation that I've got something to hide here and that I'm trying to squelch discussion. Mackensen (talk) 13:40, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Apologies. I checked my contributions for comments, but didn't find the page anymore. I tried finding it manually, but got bitten by case sensitivity and suspected oversight as a possible explanation for the apparent complete lack of track record (which might have been partially appropriate if there was a copyvio I didn't know about). I don't think that the talk page should have been speedied and have undeleted it (ongoing discussion about the deletion is explicitly cited in CSD as a reason not to speedy), but you were at no fault whatsoever. Sorry for the confusion. :-)--Eloquence * 13:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

LinkStation on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of LinkStation. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reswobslc (talk • contribs) .

As the deleting administrator I support my own judgement. Clear consensus of established users to delete. Mackensen (talk) 21:50, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Please describe your assessment of "clear consensus". I see five keeps (six if you count that I mislabeled my own) and six deletes. That's about half-and-half if you ask me, and is by no means "clear". That's also before considering that four of the deletes were for a completely different version of the page that really was more like advertising and had little resemblance to the article you deleted. The original nominator of the article changed his mind as well (see his comment David Humphreys 02:02 28 June 2006). Also please see the comments at Deletion review. If LinkStation needs to go, so be it. But if it needs to go because "consensus has been reached", then that is a mistake. Reswobslc 23:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for running the checkuser for me! Gsd2000 01:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Ditto. Just a follow-up: Shouldn't User:XGustaX be blocked as well as the puppeteer, or is that covered by blocking his IP? ~ trialsanderrors 02:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I generally don't block the puppeteer; there's no established precedent for such blocking, save in extreme situations. That is to say, he isn't banned by the community and no such ban has yet been sought. Mackensen (talk) 02:39, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the info. ~ trialsanderrors 02:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Can I remove the tag?

The user who has claimed that I (User:SincereGuy) was a sockpuppet (or sockmaster, he/she couldn't make up his/hers mind) of another user seemingly simply because I disagreed with him/her, got his/hers request for a CheckUser turned down. Can I remove the "suspected sockpuppet" tag now? --SincereGuy 05:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure. Mackensen (talk) 10:58, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Help with CheckUser

I am certain that User:Truthwanted is User:192.117.103.90, avoiding violation of WP:3RR at Persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses by logging out. Actions and language are identical. HELP!!! - CobaltBlueTony 19:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

You don't need CheckUser for that. I'd suggest WP:AN3RR or WP:ANI. Best, Mackensen (talk) 20:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

British Isles

A few days ago, Jtdirl posted the following note on my user talk page: Your skill is required on British Isles where some users are intent on POV-pushing and downplaying the fact that many people find the term offensive. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 16:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC) Now that I'm involved in the article, I see that the problem is one that two editors together cannot resolve. So, if you have the time, a skilled editor such as yourself is quite needed on the article. Regards. 172 | Talk 22:26, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

re: queary

Hello, I could not find an email address in your profile. Hope that is not an issue with whatever you need me for. Apologies for the slow delay, I've just returned from vacation. You can reach me at avick86@gmail.com, as specified on my userpage. AscendedAnathema 01:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

For the moment I regard the matter as settled. In the future, you can click the "email this user" link on the left-hand toolbox. Mackensen (talk) 02:24, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

RFCU Ceraurus

Can you sprotect Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Ceraurus? It's a long story. Thatcher131 02:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Done. Mackensen (talk) 10:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not sure whether to file an expanded RFCU myself regarding Ellis/Kinsella etc. or just let them stew in their own walled garden where it doesn't affect me. I'm not sure that anything can stop these editors from being dicks short of arbitration and even then I expect they would just try and sneak back. Sigh. Thatcher131 11:20, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Email note

I've dropped you a Misplaced Pages email, containing the evidence supporting an indef block on JHartley as a reincarnation of indef blocked user HeadleyDown. It's following the comment that if he is a reincarnation he should be blocked.

For reasons explained in the email, I do not want to put the evidence on a public page. I hope you're okay with it being sent by email instead. It's not too long. Please let me know when you get it. Diffs are included. Thanks. FT2 13:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Review and block much appreciated, thank you. LTA subpage set up for HeadleyDown. FT2 17:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Followup email (brief) on 2nd sock ring by same individual headed your way. Don't know if it matters, don't want to assume :) FT2 11:11, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Apologies, 2 in a day. Another sock. See email. FT2 15:25, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding WP:MACK

Hi, I just wanted to inform you that I marked the proposal as "failed to archive consensus". The talk page was pretty left to waste while straw poll had an overwhelming number of "oppose" votes, and only got a trickle flow of new votes. If ya disagree, please revert me and drop me a message. Best wishes. Charon X/talk 00:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Not at all; I figured it had been already...Mackensen (talk) 00:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

AfD

I closed a few AfDs as keep earlier today, including some that I voted in. I feel that this was unprofessional, so I ask your opinion: should I revert the closure and have you determine the closure yourself? Thanks. — Deckill e r 03:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

That would be fine. Just list them here and I'll take care of them. Mackensen (talk) 03:25, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

That should be all of them. I reverted most of the stuff I did in realtion to the AfDs. — Deckill e r 03:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'll take it from here. Mackensen (talk) 03:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Done. Mackensen (talk) 04:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks. — Deckill e r 04:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure. You did the right thing by asking someone to close (even if I did only differ in one place). Mackensen (talk) 04:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

And even then, I agree with your decision; the whole "cruft dam" arguement shouldn't apply to lists of links, in many ways. Perhaps that one AfD was the flaw of my closings earlier; I was worried to make an actual decision on that one, since I had direct association with the people involved in the process. Thanks again. — Deckill e r 04:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

About "Shinmin no Michi"

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Shinmin no Michi

I wonder why the result of this voting is "Keep". I suppose the result is as

 Keep of 2
 week delete of 3
 merge of 1

Does this result mean "delete"?--Questionfromjapan 11:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, on review, it's a history merge. I missed the two other users backing up your explanation because they simply commented on your post (it was late, I was tired). I'll fix that up. On the other hand, it is a keep in a sense--the content remains, just in a different place. Mackensen (talk) 11:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much. And if you have a time, please modify the announcement of the result on talk page. I really apreciate your hard work on administration of wikipedia.--Questionfromjapan 11:48, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

More vandalism

User:The+Invisible+Man has struck again here with a new sock puppet account, User:Invisible!. Please deal with him accordingly. Additionally, feel free to semi-protect my talk page. -- LGagnon 23:56, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I've block the account, plus an additional sock account created at the same time. Mackensen (talk) 00:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Insert-Belltower

Hello Mackensen, I'm Aeon I-B's Advocate. It has come to my knowledge that I-B was indentifed as an Abusive Sockpuppet. This tag was removed by I-B. I have advised him to restore the tag until you remove it or confirm it. Happy Editting Aeon 05:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I-B and UCRgrad both are curently in an AMA case against several other editors on teh UCR article. A couple have brought up the sockpuppet issue. Is there any information that you can give me on this in order to help bring this issue to rest when we bring it up? Aeon 17:14, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

RFCU deferral

Theres an RFCU which Essjay's deferred for your attention, if you have a moment. Thanks. FT2 03:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Smyneretits

User replaced deleted page Tyara bumdeeay, then vandalised my user page after I G4'd the restored page. --DarkAudit 22:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted and blocked. Mackensen (talk) 22:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

PoolGuy range block apparently ineffective

It appears the range block you imposed on PoolGuy's IP range is ineffective, since about 2-3 additional accounts were created (and edited) after the block (note Pschemp's newest additions to the CheckUser request). Perhaps you should revisit this case, run another Checkuser, and/or adjust your block. 69.117.4.237 04:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Please note that 70.130.184.87 has been affected by this rangeblock and has requested to be unblocked. Is the sockpuppetry from this IP difficult to contain without the rangeblock? // Pathoschild (/_map) 05:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

See also Starfyredragon. // Pathoschild (/_map) 06:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

It was my impression that the block only affected account creation. Hmph. I'll undo it. Mackensen (talk) 10:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Just doing a drive-by on this after seeing it on the noticeboards and elsewhere; you may be interested in looking at a Mediation Cabal case where a user going by AquaticTheory is telling a story that sounds an awful lot like PoolGuy's "socks are allowed" defense, including a bit about how an RFCU was run improperly - which I recall being the basis for an ArbCom case that was instigated by one of PG's socks. The similarity in names and stories seems like it might be worth looking at. Cheers! Tony Fox (speak) 16:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for unblocking. // Pathoschild (/_map) 00:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

In ref. to my last note above, I'd suggest you take a peek at these: the MedCab case and a discussion started from the Members' Advocates page - two users, same story. Smells funny. Tony Fox (speak) 16:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

"Likely"

Mackensen - what does "likely" mean? Indefblock for the sock or not? - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:24, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

It means likely sockpuppetry and definite meatpuppetry. I leave it to your discretion. Mackensen (talk) 15:25, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Note that Ceraurus made a recent edit to his talk page; it may be possible to check him against Arthur Ellis now (noted on the RFCU/Case page). Thatcher131 15:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Thatcher131 15:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

All things considered (and especially considering the Ellis/Ceraurus related vandalism of July 5), would it be worth posting this to the Arthur Ellis RFCU page? Thanks. Thatcher131 16:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's a good idea (good job there, by the way). Mackensen (talk) 16:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Arb Comm on Kinsella, etc

Hi Mackensen. As you know better than anyone, the user (or users) posting as Arthur Ellis, Ceraurus, etc., have quite a complicated editing history. As you also know, this has resulted in a request for arbitration (here). Given that Arthur Ellis is insisting there that he posts from a bell-sympatico account, and that your report (if I understand them correctly) implies that he is in fact posting from a Magma Communications account, I wonder whether you may want to make a report there. (Or, perhaps more appropriately, be prepared to comment when the Arb Comm agrees to hear the case.) Bucketsofg✐ 20:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Indeed.

Indeed you do not, and whether anyone else says it or not, you know I appreciate what you do and know just what it's like. I've blocked him for 24 hours for disruption for his overall behavior, but in particular his last comment; additionally, you deserve a public expression of thanks. As such, let me quote someone who knows exactly what he's talking about:

The Original Barnstar

For your tireless efforts to combat sockpuppetry on the CheckUser page and elsewhere. May you sleep some nights. Essjay (Talk) 19:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much Essjay, that means a lot. Best, Mackensen (talk) 19:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

An RFCU decline

I posted up the RFCU for a user who is suspected to use sockpuppets, but you declined it without any sort of comment as to why. My RFCU is here, and I would like to know why the request is declined, if possible. This user is suspected to be involved at sockpuppetry for the article and AfD of the musical artist that she is supposedly representing, and after I had a message left on my talk page calling me a "twit" by one of the suspected socks I felt that the RFCU was necessary. Ryūlóng 19:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Principally because I didn't see a serious policy violation alleged in the request. If you could provide a few more specific diffs I would be willing to re-examine the request. Mackensen (talk) 20:01, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, does it matter that I provide the diffs here? This is an example of one of the AfD sockpuppetry votes. The contributions of Bluecanoe, Bobj7, and Sallyroberts28 are all extremely similar in diction, and Bobj7 and Sallyroberts28 appeared the day after it was suggested to Bluecanoe that she should wait for others to contribute to her artist's article. The primacy of the edits by the users I listed are all involved with the Joseph Patrick Moore article, it's AfD, the Blue Canoe Records article, its AfD, and the creation of articles for other albums by the artist. Doctorteddynewman also contributed to the Joseph Patrick Moore article, as well as posting the same message questioning why I reverted his extreme use of external links at Joseph Patrick Moore as well as links at other pages for bassists. Ryūlóng 20:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

You can also see that Doctorteddynewman (talk · contribs) posted that message on his user and user talk pages, as well. Ryūlóng 20:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Responded on the page. Mackensen (talk) 20:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

RFCU Skipsmith

A reason for your decline would be appreciated. Please check the contributions of almost all of those accounts, I think the pattern is obvious. Thank you. -- Avi 02:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mackensen

Please check my reply to you here. --ManiF 07:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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Hello, Mackensen. I know that you carried out a user check on Yummy mummy, one of Robsteadman's sockpuppets at the time of Desakana's RfA, and that you saw the RFCUs that he (as Robertsteadman) filed against Neuropean. (Neuropean is, in my opinion, quite likely to be Count Of The Saxon Shore, who had a previous dispute with Robsteadman, but there was no evidence of policy violation, as that account was inactive, and he may have just wanted to start afresh with a new identity.) Neuropean has now left. His behaviour was certainly not impeccable, but it does seem certain that Robert was wiki-stalking him, and hurling insults at him (sockpuppet, vandal, stalker), and that it just got too much for him. Robsteadman was blocked indefinitely for trolling and disruption, after having built up a record of massive edit warring, abuse, and votestacking-sockpuppetry. He was allowed back on probation, with the new name Robertsteadman. Although I personally find Rob(ert) to be an extremely abusive and disruptive editor, I believe that I have always behaved with fairness towards him, voting to keep his article, removing a taunt after his sockpuppetry was discovered, removing evidence of his sockpuppetry and of his indefinite blocking from the talk page of his article (since it probably wouldn't be very nice for him if someone — maybe one of his students — looked up the composer Robert Steadman, and found out what his history on Misplaced Pages was), and on several occasions reverted vandalism or harassing messages from his user or talk pages, and asked other editors to leave him alone, despite the fact that throughout all of this, he was making hysterical accusations against me as well as against numerous others.

I feel that I should have acted more quickly, because when I saw the accusations of wiki-stalking, I took a quick look at the contributions of both editors, and it seemed to be true, but I was involved with making other posts, so I put off doing something about it. I don't think Neuropean will be back, but I'd like to feel that this can't happen again with someone else. It was completely characteristic of the way Rob(ert) used to behave with people he had been in dispute with before he was indefinitely blocked. If you have time to look at my report at AN/I, I'd appreciate it. If not, no problem. I know it can take a long time to read up about something that you haven't already been following fully. Cheers. AnnH ♫ 16:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Please talk to user: Syrthiss who has more information - there is much more to this than the factually inaccurate acocount being posted around WP by Ann. Robertsteadman 17:53, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Something to modify at RFCU

At Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Rudi_Dierick, may I suggest {{MoreInfo}} in front of your comment, so its blatant that you want more info. I'd put it there, but it turns into "File:Symbol question.png Additional information needed." which uses 'needed', which is a subtle alteration to how I interpret your wording if I put it there. Also, nice all-at-once whammy of the outstanding requests. Kevin_b_er 03:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Better done now before the week gets underway. I'll see what I can do there. Thanks for the heads up. Mackensen (talk) 03:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Disruptive behavior

First thing on signing on tonight, I discovered that we are apparently the new tag-team for disruption of Misplaced Pages. Given that the appropritae response to individuals disrupting Misplaced Pages is to ban them from doing so, I'm banning myself from RfCU. Of course, as you know, all the other checkusers on Misplaced Pages have already banned themselves from the page as well. In the interests of preventing further disruption, I strongly encourage you to ban yourslef from the page as well. It occurs to me that a month-long ban should be sufficient to teach us to be less disruptive in future. Essjay (Talk) 04:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I love you guys. — Deckill e r 04:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm close to feeling that way, but not quite. If for no other reason, I refuse to abandon the clerks because they've done a stand-up job there. Otherwise...Mackensen (talk) 12:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, they have, and it pains me. However, I've had my fill of being abused for trying to help. Essjay (Talk) 13:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't blame you in the least. Take some much needed rest; I'll mind the store for now. Mackensen (talk) 13:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppet checkuser

Thanks for checking out SynergeticMaggot and company -- you made some interesting comments. ()

You noted geographic clusters in Australia and eastern Canada and said you thought they were mostly meatpuppets. I'm wondering if there are two alternate possibilities:

I use a cable modem. My IP address is static until I select "DHCP Release" -- then my modem removes itself from the network until I tell it to reestablish DHCP. At that point , I get a different IP address from Comcast's block of IP numbers. So one person could sit there doing this and spawn multiple users with different IP addresses -- but all in the same geographic region.
Lemurien's user page indicates he works for a Canadian ISP, VIF Internet. Their FAQ page shows they have dial-up modem locations mostly in Quebec -- how easy would it be for him to just sit in the office and give himself IP addresses from different modem pools?

In either case, new user accounts would still show up originating from the the same ISP company, although traceroutes might show different modem pools in the second scenario.

In any event, it sounds like there's not much more worth doing unless the problem returns. Thanks for your help.--A. B. 05:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

PS One minor update -- check out this diff -- hopefully he's not the sockpuppeteer/meatpuppeteer. --A. B. 05:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Without saying too much, I was speaking in geographic terms–there are a number of different ISPs (otherwise I would have had more to go on). I understand your concerns, but for the moment there's nothing more I can do. Best, Mackensen (talk) 12:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like you've got a good handle on this and I will soldier on. Thanks again. Regards, --A. B. 18:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

CheckUser on User:Science3456

Hi Charles,

I've been cleaning up after User:Science3456 for the last few months and wondered if the CheckUser revealed any other accounts he used besides the ones listed at the request? Cheers, —Ruud 11:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/DrL#DrL

Can you take a quick second look? I am not clear whether ArbCom decisions have the force of official policy, but if so, User:MichaelCPrice pointed out that the ArbCom has clearly stated that writing about yourself is a violation. ---CH 17:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Please do not close deletion debates as you have demonstrated that you cannot be trusted to implement consensus

I have just read that you were responsible for the only deletion of a high school article. You did this despite a huge number of keep votes. You wrote a lot of self-justificatory waffle, but what it came down to was that you simply decided to delete because you personally thought the article deserved deletion. This is serious misconduct, and shows that you cannot be trusted to respect consensus. Therefore in my opinion you should not choose or be permitted to implement any decision that is supposed to be based on consensus. Landolitan 18:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, deletion review generally upheld my conduct (about a month ago, in fact), so I think I'll keep doing what I've been doing. What brings you here so long after the fact? Mackensen (talk) 18:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

LOL --Cyde↔Weys 18:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

User:MARVEL again

Hi, you have previously checked user:MARVEL and user:True Path. It seems he got himself several new accounts to revert same the articles with, can you please check them: 1. Active Mind (talk · contribs) 2. Aladine (talk · contribs) 3. Odenatus (talk · contribs) 4. Sanatruq (talk · contribs) Best regards, --Spahbod ☼ 20:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Be happy to stand up from that chair!

Dear Wikipedian,
you have acheived a considerable number of edits on wikipedia. This can mean, that you devote a large proportion of your free time to improving the articles on this free encyclopedia. I would like to remind you, however, that Misplaced Pages is not the best thing that happened to mankind since 2000, it is just a mere internet project, and there are lots of other things you can do, if you want to serve the community you live in. There might be opportunities in your local municipality, that would allow you to volunteer your time and efforts to help the diseased, disabled, or otherwise handicapped people. There are also organisations, that would use your time and work to help people in areas of world, where people have never actually seen a computer in their entire life, and don't know what internet or wikipedia is. Such organisations target hunger, diseases, or the lack of proper education in those areas. Please, try to reconsider, if you donate your time and efforts to the community that needs them the most.

Azmoc 20:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)