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Painting of the Muhammad (P.B.U.H)

Thank you for the message, i am trying to remove some disturbing data from the article named Islam, writer should know that there is no concept of painting in photos in ISLAM, By posting such things in the wiki articles can create some serious troubles to the Muslims, and can confuse the readers kindly have a glance on the Painting in the Article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Topword (talk • contribs)

That doesn't really matter, as an encyclopedia is not bound to or required to adhere to religious prohibitions. This is a general-use encyclopedia for the entire world, not just Muslims. Tarc (talk) 18:23, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
An interesting study here]. Dougweller (talk) 19:30, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Topword. As Tarc indicated, and as NeilN explained to you, Misplaced Pages is not censored to remove content that some readers may consider offensive. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 20:56, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Evidence Required

Thank you all, replies from other user means that wikipedia is not bound for such issue to be managed, so its simply means that any one can add anything to an article. Any how, there is no evidence in the article Islam Section Angel (File named : An angel presenting Muhammad and his companions with a miniature city. In the Topkapi Palace Library, Istanbul) that this painting exists in the Library of Topkapi Palace, if it does then kindly prove an evidence. Thanks all — Preceding unsigned comment added by Topword (talk • contribs) 09:43, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Please read the source more carefully. It is not a painting but an illustration in a folio. --NeilN 13:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Overtagging

Perhaps you feel like reverting another few cases of overtaqgging by User:VanEman?

In general, regarding this new editor, I am afraid that I personally am convinced he has an anti-religious POV, which pushes him towards certain edits. Debresser (talk) 21:25, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Debresser. I wouldn't describe VanEman as a new editor; he's been actively editing for more than a year. It may be a matter of our different perspectives, but I don't discern an anti-religious POV in his edits either. Please try to WP:AGF. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 03:31, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Debresser, I would call that a personal attack. If you have found anything I tagged as "citation needed" that is already properly cited, then by all means, let me know. I have nothing against any religious topic that is appropriately referenced, but I am finding articles or sections of articles that are almost totally unreferenced, have "citation needed" alerts that are more than five years old, or present content that is not covered in the cited reference. Those are real problems that need to be corrected.VanEman (talk) 02:35, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi VanEman. I agree that many Judaism-related articles need more sources. I reverted your changes at Jewish culture and Who is a Jew?, two articles on my Watchlist, because I think adding a {{citation needed}} template to every paragraph is counter-productive. I think a {{refimprove}} banner accomplishes the same thing and looks less intrusive. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 03:31, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Malik Shabazz. Thanks for the coaching. I had thought 'citation needed' was less intrusive than a banner, but I've read the section on the use of banners and will use them going forward where it looks appropriate.VanEman (talk) 04:15, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Just a few short notes. 1. A one-year editor is fairly new compared to Malik Shabazz and Debresser. 2. I see no personal attack, here or elsewhere, by me against VanEman. 3. I do see an anti-religious undertone in VanEman's edits, but I hope he will learn to edit objectively on Misplaced Pages. Let me stress that in my understanding an undertone is less than a POV. 4. I am glad that he will stop adding tons of Fact templates, and will revert them on a few other articles where he added them as well now. Debresser (talk) 10:10, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Debresser. I have been an editor since 2011. It is not POV to request a reference when something is presented as fact and not properly cited. That is called good editing. If you care about articles on religion, then you should stop bothering editors who want them properly referenced, and instead spend that time actually providing the references or deleting the unsourced material yourself. VanEman (talk) 04:31, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Navid Khiabani

HI Malik i am re creating Navid Khiabani page with fresh info about hist birth place and residential areas and activities. let me develop it with some of my friends to reveal some facts, it is important. we are group of free reporters whom has no intention to harm anyone expect reveal the facts. Thanks for Understanding — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanthefact (talk • contribs) 00:54, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jeanthefact. I recommend that you and your friends read WP:Biographies of living persons, Misplaced Pages's relevant policy. Unless you are able to comply with the policy, including its strong requirements concerning the use of high-quality sources, you will not be permitted to write about Navid Khiabani on Misplaced Pages. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 03:00, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Mali We took almost 7 years to collect a lot of information about Navid Khiabani. Please let's us created the page with sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.160.209.230 (talk) 04:35, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

You may have collected "a lot of information" about Navid Khiabani, but your sources must satisfy WP:Identifying reliable sources. Based on the sources that were used to create articles about Mr. Khiabani in the past, I don't believe that will be the case.
If you think your sources do satisfy WP:Identifying reliable sources, please post links to them here and I will help you create a new article if the sources are adequate. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 04:49, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in so late. I found many drafts of this at userpages. I deleted them all and warned the (now) four editors posting about this person. Please feel to remove or modify the warning posts. Forgive my finding this thread late. I'd only seen the diff of the first post in this thread. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:20, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

This "Jeanthefact" user in particular (contrib history) has done nothing but push this topic sporadically over the last 2-3 years. Tarc (talk) 13:27, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
I could be wrong, but this feels like a journalism exercise, not like the creation of an encyclopedia article. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:28, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
I agree with all three of you. Yesterday I salted Navid Khiabani and deleted a copy of the article in Jeanthefact's sandbox. I see that Jeanthefact recreated the article in userspace several times today. As far as I'm concerned, the next time will be the last time. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:08, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

disruptive editing

Hello Malik. recently i removed content regarding Jews at articles of Arab communities (see my contributions list), as Jews are a separate ethnic group with distinctive history, culture and identity. A claim that is well supported at Jews. All my edits were reverted at first by an IP calling it propaganda an "anti arabist" and then by an editor who ignored my explanations and my request for sources. I addressed the editor on talk page and explained the issue. Somehow i have the feeling it won't end up well, could you please keep an eye on this? Thanks. Infantom (talk) 23:17, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Infantom. While I'm sympathetic to what you're doing, I'm not sure that the sources you cite at Talk:Arab American#Jews support the assertion that Mizrahi Jews are not considered Arabs. I would encourage you to try to build a consensus on the issue, perhaps at Talk:Arab American, WT:WikiProject Judaism, or WT:WikiProject Arab world. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:23, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
I would argue that a three-sentence paragraph on Mizrahi Jews is relevant to Arab-American regardless of whether there is a consensus that Mizrahi Jews are considered ethnically Arabs. The American Mizrahi population is significant (75,000 Syrian Jews alone) and worthy of a few sentences. An encyclopedic treatment of Arab Americans should include at least a brief mention of Mizrahi Jews even if it states that, despite their historic origins in Arab lands, they often don't identify as Arab American. In fact, the paragraph states explicitly that there is little overlap in how Mizrahi Jews and Arab Americans identify themselves.GabrielF (talk) 02:34, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Malik. The point is that Jews (including Mizrahi Jews for that matter) are an ethnoreligious group and therefore are not part of the Arab people. Infantom (talk) 02:47, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Halle Berry

I deleted the content because I thought it was discriminative to state that she was the first actress WITH A COLORED SKIN to win some award. The fact that she won that award should be enough and the color of her skin should not matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.131.69.236 (talk) 01:08, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Berry's significance comes, in part, from the fact that she was the first non-white actress to win a Best Actress Oscar. That's not just my opinion. That's what People magazine says in the first sentence of its profile of the actress.
In the future, please use edit summaries to help other editors understand the rationale for your edits. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:37, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 April 2015

A barnstar for you (AKA another shiny thing for your collection)!

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Thank you for your continuous hard work from the tedious humdrum of lower level work to the intelligent, balanced methods by which you handle complex issues. I seldom feel that someone's mere presence helps to put my mind at ease (er, possibly my own arrogance I'm pandering to), but I count you amongst the few Wikipedians whose analytical abilities and good faith approach to keeping the project rolling forward in the right direction I feel absolute confidence in. Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:09, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Content from deletions

Hi, I'm currently trying to create a YouTube WikiProject, it's obvious there have been people doing this before and you've deleted the pages relevant to them. Is it possible if you could copy that content into my userspace?

----- :D Derry Adama (talk) 01:14, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Those pages were all redirects to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Internet culture/YouTube, which was a short-lived task force of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Internet culture. There really isn't any "content" to restore. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:43, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Clarification on your comment

Hello, I'm new to editing and unfamiliar with some of the lingo. What do you mean by "subst"? "Please stop using subst with improvement templates"? Entropyandvodka (talk) 01:23, 21 April 2015 (UTC)